Of course the plot seems generic, there are movies and storylines that they have to follow.
They never really showed any other sith for the Jedi to fight. I am sure that they created one, but didn't share that information in the trailers. The only part that I found to be bland in the thing was Yoda's dialogue. I never really understood why someone so old and wise couldn't speak elementary english. But I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
A real problem is that with the high-tech past, how does the future become so mundane in just a generation? They need to do a lot of explaining in the next two movies to show why and how they got from point A to point B, but enough of this off topic rant!
True that MSNBC is not exactly the greatest of news sites, but, it is the default homepage for new installations of internet explorer. A lot of users do not ever change the homepage and therefore read it.
The article is taking about how current Computer Science students are starting to dislike Microsoft. My question is, when did they start to like/use Microsoft? How many (good) CS Schools have labs of windows workstations and teach using MS tools? Most schools take pride in their facilities that are full of Suns or SGIs.
Companies are like little greedy children, they don't play nice together. Apple has quicktime, Microsoft has windows media player. Quicktime, as you say, runs like garbage under windows, and from my experience, windows media player runs like crap on the Mac platforms. The only thing that works on all are "standard" file types such as mpg, mp3, etc.
Calculus is probably one of the most important things that a Computer Science major can take, but no one takes calculus so they can get a job. People take calculus to understand why things work. How can you think about taking a graphics class without understanding what vectors are and what it means to normalize them? It would be really hard. How about Numerical Analysis? These are all based on Calculus.
Now, as a computer science major in your third year, you should be able to pick up a book, spend a couple of weeks and get to know a new language. CS departments teach fundamentals, not the latest and greatest tools. This is what makes CS degrees stand out, the ability to teach yourself the new tools from the theory you hated so much in college.
I am having a hard time believing that the Mac fans that regularly read slashdot are not fit for a serious discussion. The "Oooh, shiny" group you speak of would never read slashdot and in fact probably are graphic designers or musicians. A person that has the integrity to read slashdot and also run Mac OS X knows a thing or two about technology.
also while you mention nerds, there are many types of nerds. There are the "converting polor to cylindrical" type nerds, the "two parts hydrogen, one part oxygen" type nerd, and even the "and one time...at band camp" type. Regularly slashdot posts stories about the solar system and phyics. The nerds that you speak of would hardly fit that discussion.
I believe that SGI's flirtation with the Intel chip really put them down for a while. They were even releasing SGI machines with NT installed. Why would anyone want to buy an expensive NT machine when a PC could handle the workload?
I really like IRIX and think that it is a good OS. If they want to save money, then make the switch to Linux. I think that the MIPS chip is going to be around for a while, in handheld devices and others, but there processor for servers/workstations is quite powerful as well.
but I hope to see Linux pre-installed grow out of small companies run by people in the community, not co-opted by large corporations looking for a free ride.
The downside to that is that small companies can't necessarily compete with the "big boys". I would rather see Linux available from the huge companies than to be forced into purchasing a license for an operating system that I am never going to use.
In fact, I don't want anything preinstalled because I would just wipe it and install from scratch. However not everyone is as anal as I am and would probably like a pre-installed Linux machine from a reliable big company that can offer a good deal. The companies are not cashing in on free linux software, the customer is saving from the high software charge.
I disagree with this. To understand my reasoning go to all of the major PC vendors and try to order a computer with Linux or better yet, without any Microsoft products. Have fun because it is a pain in the ass and sometimes impossible. Why does Linux have a market for servers? Well that is simply because sys admins are smarter than the average user and know what is better.
Mod me down for this, but consulting with a co-worker at a job and obtaining code from a fellow student is NOT the same thing. The purpose of going to school is to learn and therefore they want your work, not your friend's. At a job, they just want the work to get done, they don't care how you do it.
yeah, for C programs, gcc will be used, so it will look for.c extensions.
For C++,.cc,.c++, or.cpp is acceptable because g++ is used instead of gcc. But if you wanted to get technical, the C++ compiler can complie regular C code.
you can pay for Linux admins with the money that you will save for all of the damn software that Microsoft will make you buy. There is the software itself, then user licenses, then upgrades. Wait, you want more users? Buy more licenses. You want to buy a new machine? You have to buy new software. Running Microsoft is *not cheap*, plus it is so bloated (and buggy) that you need someone to keep it running all of the time.
With Apple you get what you pay for. Those laptops last for a really long time. The other companies just don't have the quality of Apple (and I am not talking about software, but OS X is better than XP anyday...).
Sure it is more expensive in the long run, but I am willing to bet that there are ten times the number of 5+ year old Apple laptops out there compared to the number of any other laptop manufacturer. You might not agree with the purchase of iBooks instead of say Dell or Gateway, but for these kids, the iBooks will last for a long time.
After the O'Rielly books, when you feel comfortable with UNIX, try working though Modern Operating Systems by Andrew Tanenbaum. He is probably the best author in all of computer science. This will give you an understanding of what goes on behind the scenes.
This reminds me of the Simpson's quote: "You are graduating from the most expensive and therefore best College in the country."
Yeah, my boss had the same feeling about Linux, so I just had him buy a copy of RedHat. I also wanted the company to buy it so that I could get a free t-shirt out of the deal:-)
The problem with Code Warrior and other IDEs is generated code. Granted, it helps out tremendously in the long run, but when an error occurs, you might not know exactly where the bug is with code that you didn't write. But...they save time, and time is money.
Another good IDE is forte, which I think is free from Sun, seems to work better than CodeWarrior and also does the wonderful sytax highlighting.
Currently in my house, which is filled with Computer Science majors, we have the following video game systems: NES, Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis, Nintendo 64, Playstation 2, not to mention the numerous PC games. You know which system gets the most action? The NES. Kung fu! Excitebike! RC Pro-AM! Mario Brothers! Come on!
It all comes down to simplicity, the number of people that want really complicated games is not that high. Complex games have a small market. Some of the best times are spent playing drunken tetris!
This is the case most of the time. The other situations are: (i) what must be used, and (ii) what is cheapest at the time.
For example, the furniture company that I work for uses a software package for their inventory that will only work with windows. Therefore they have oriented their desktops and some server around the Microsoft design.
On the other hand, for some of the "behind the scenes" network stuff, like Intra/Internet, DNS, DHCP, email we have Linux. The only reason that we are using Linux is the cost. It is A LOT cheaper for all of thoses things that I just mentioned to be done on Linux rather than NT( not to mention a shitload better/easier). It was a hard sell to the mangement. They had the idea that Microsoft is the most expensive and therefore best company (quote stolen from the Simpons!).
Sometimes it is all about conspicuous consumption. People will buy the thing just because it costs $400, and then they will be either the coolest or wicked awesome, I haven't decided.
True, he is not going to get an answer or in fact anything useful from/., but I will get enjoyment from reading some of the ideas posted.
slashdot is one of the funniest places on the internet sometimes, in fact they should have stupid news stories more often. Besides after the title and the first couple of sentences, you should know if this is really a story you should be reading.
Most Computer Science majors are lazy, therefore they think that perl is amazing. They hate prolog because it is radically different. They know C++ and Java, but for quick jobs, they go with perl.
Most Computer Science professors hate teaching perl (at least for intro stuff) because the syntax is crazy. They love prolog because the students hate it and most of them are crazy and love everything, except for teaching perl to newbies.
CS alumni program in whatever language their job requires!
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Of course the plot seems generic, there are movies and storylines that they have to follow.
They never really showed any other sith for the Jedi to fight. I am sure that they created one, but didn't share that information in the trailers. The only part that I found to be bland in the thing was Yoda's dialogue. I never really understood why someone so old and wise couldn't speak elementary english. But I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
A real problem is that with the high-tech past, how does the future become so mundane in just a generation? They need to do a lot of explaining in the next two movies to show why and how they got from point A to point B, but enough of this off topic rant!
True that MSNBC is not exactly the greatest of news sites, but, it is the default homepage for new installations of internet explorer. A lot of users do not ever change the homepage and therefore read it.
The article is taking about how current Computer Science students are starting to dislike Microsoft. My question is, when did they start to like/use Microsoft? How many (good) CS Schools have labs of windows workstations and teach using MS tools? Most schools take pride in their facilities that are full of Suns or SGIs.
Companies are like little greedy children, they don't play nice together. Apple has quicktime, Microsoft has windows media player. Quicktime, as you say, runs like garbage under windows, and from my experience, windows media player runs like crap on the Mac platforms. The only thing that works on all are "standard" file types such as mpg, mp3, etc.
Calculus is probably one of the most important things that a Computer Science major can take, but no one takes calculus so they can get a job. People take calculus to understand why things work. How can you think about taking a graphics class without understanding what vectors are and what it means to normalize them? It would be really hard. How about Numerical Analysis? These are all based on Calculus.
Now, as a computer science major in your third year, you should be able to pick up a book, spend a couple of weeks and get to know a new language. CS departments teach fundamentals, not the latest and greatest tools. This is what makes CS degrees stand out, the ability to teach yourself the new tools from the theory you hated so much in college.
I am having a hard time believing that the Mac fans that regularly read slashdot are not fit for a serious discussion. The "Oooh, shiny" group you speak of would never read slashdot and in fact probably are graphic designers or musicians. A person that has the integrity to read slashdot and also run Mac OS X knows a thing or two about technology.
also while you mention nerds, there are many types of nerds. There are the "converting polor to cylindrical" type nerds, the "two parts hydrogen, one part oxygen" type nerd, and even the "and one time...at band camp" type. Regularly slashdot posts stories about the solar system and phyics. The nerds that you speak of would hardly fit that discussion.
I believe that SGI's flirtation with the Intel chip really put them down for a while. They were even releasing SGI machines with NT installed. Why would anyone want to buy an expensive NT machine when a PC could handle the workload?
I really like IRIX and think that it is a good OS. If they want to save money, then make the switch to Linux. I think that the MIPS chip is going to be around for a while, in handheld devices and others, but there processor for servers/workstations is quite powerful as well.
This is like saying combine judaism and islam.
but I hope to see Linux pre-installed grow out of small companies run by people in the community, not co-opted by large corporations looking for a free ride.
The downside to that is that small companies can't necessarily compete with the "big boys". I would rather see Linux available from the huge companies than to be forced into purchasing a license for an operating system that I am never going to use.
In fact, I don't want anything preinstalled because I would just wipe it and install from scratch. However not everyone is as anal as I am and would probably like a pre-installed Linux machine from a reliable big company that can offer a good deal. The companies are not cashing in on free linux software, the customer is saving from the high software charge.
I disagree with this. To understand my reasoning go to all of the major PC vendors and try to order a computer with Linux or better yet, without any Microsoft products. Have fun because it is a pain in the ass and sometimes impossible. Why does Linux have a market for servers? Well that is simply because sys admins are smarter than the average user and know what is better.
If grandma had balls, she'd be grampa.
Mod me down for this, but consulting with a co-worker at a job and obtaining code from a fellow student is NOT the same thing. The purpose of going to school is to learn and therefore they want your work, not your friend's. At a job, they just want the work to get done, they don't care how you do it.
yeah, for C programs, gcc will be used, so it will look for .c extensions.
For C++, .cc, .c++, or .cpp is acceptable because g++ is used instead of gcc. But if you wanted to get technical, the C++ compiler can complie regular C code.
This is mostly true, however gcc does require certain file extensions (check 'man gcc'), and I would say that gcc is a major UNIX/Linux tool.
you can pay for Linux admins with the money that you will save for all of the damn software that Microsoft will make you buy. There is the software itself, then user licenses, then upgrades. Wait, you want more users? Buy more licenses. You want to buy a new machine? You have to buy new software. Running Microsoft is *not cheap*, plus it is so bloated (and buggy) that you need someone to keep it running all of the time.
With Apple you get what you pay for. Those laptops last for a really long time. The other companies just don't have the quality of Apple (and I am not talking about software, but OS X is better than XP anyday...).
Sure it is more expensive in the long run, but I am willing to bet that there are ten times the number of 5+ year old Apple laptops out there compared to the number of any other laptop manufacturer. You might not agree with the purchase of iBooks instead of say Dell or Gateway, but for these kids, the iBooks will last for a long time.
Wasn't this a problem with Germany's Women's Swim Team years ago?
After the O'Rielly books, when you feel comfortable with UNIX, try working though Modern Operating Systems by Andrew Tanenbaum. He is probably the best author in all of computer science. This will give you an understanding of what goes on behind the scenes.
This reminds me of the Simpson's quote: "You are graduating from the most expensive and therefore best College in the country."
Yeah, my boss had the same feeling about Linux, so I just had him buy a copy of RedHat. I also wanted the company to buy it so that I could get a free t-shirt out of the deal :-)
The problem with Code Warrior and other IDEs is generated code. Granted, it helps out tremendously in the long run, but when an error occurs, you might not know exactly where the bug is with code that you didn't write. But...they save time, and time is money.
Another good IDE is forte, which I think is free from Sun, seems to work better than CodeWarrior and also does the wonderful sytax highlighting.
Currently in my house, which is filled with Computer Science majors, we have the following video game systems: NES, Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis, Nintendo 64, Playstation 2, not to mention the numerous PC games. You know which system gets the most action? The NES. Kung fu! Excitebike! RC Pro-AM! Mario Brothers! Come on!
It all comes down to simplicity, the number of people that want really complicated games is not that high. Complex games have a small market. Some of the best times are spent playing drunken tetris!
This is the case most of the time. The other situations are: (i) what must be used, and (ii) what is cheapest at the time.
For example, the furniture company that I work for uses a software package for their inventory that will only work with windows. Therefore they have oriented their desktops and some server around the Microsoft design.
On the other hand, for some of the "behind the scenes" network stuff, like Intra/Internet, DNS, DHCP, email we have Linux. The only reason that we are using Linux is the cost. It is A LOT cheaper for all of thoses things that I just mentioned to be done on Linux rather than NT( not to mention a shitload better/easier). It was a hard sell to the mangement. They had the idea that Microsoft is the most expensive and therefore best company (quote stolen from the Simpons!).
Sometimes it is all about conspicuous consumption. People will buy the thing just because it costs $400, and then they will be either the coolest or wicked awesome, I haven't decided.
True, he is not going to get an answer or in fact anything useful from /., but I will get enjoyment from reading some of the ideas posted.
slashdot is one of the funniest places on the internet sometimes, in fact they should have stupid news stories more often. Besides after the title and the first couple of sentences, you should know if this is really a story you should be reading.
Most Computer Science majors are lazy, therefore they think that perl is amazing. They hate prolog because it is radically different. They know C++ and Java, but for quick jobs, they go with perl.
Most Computer Science professors hate teaching perl (at least for intro stuff) because the syntax is crazy. They love prolog because the students hate it and most of them are crazy and love everything, except for teaching perl to newbies.
CS alumni program in whatever language their job requires!