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Jager writes: "You can download the new starwars trailer here. Enjoy." Seemed to me as if Lucas was worried about the "love story" emphasis in the previous teasers, and wanted to make sure people knew there would be plenty of zapping and slashing.
I didn't get that link, anyone have a better one?
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it apparently checks the referrer header and denies access if you're not coming from the lucasfilm site.
I don't know how it works at any other download sites, but if you go to www.starwars.com it won't let you download the hi-res version without Quicktime Pro. What gives? I want my free, bandwidth-consuming movie trailers, and I don't want to pay for them!
Hey, this was from the other thread, and the new trailor is up there. Nice Compression.
http://node2.callihq.net/
Can anyone supply a direct link to the "Large" .mov?
Someone from the earlier thread posted a nice Divx 5 version of the trailer at 640 x 480 resolution. Check it out here.
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Admiral: Slashdot? You're belief in that ancient religion hasn't help you conjure up that Episode 2 trailer.
Vader: I find your lack of faith disturbing, Admiral.
*Admiral chokes under weight of a full frontal Slashdotting.*
I have to admit, Im impressed. We took down Apple.
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Looks like they are blocking the referral downloads from Slashdot.org.
Gee. I wonder why that is?
:-)
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Got Geometrodynamics? Awe, too hard to figure out? Too bad.
Nevermind the high res version, you can see that as a trailer in the movies. If you have the DVD, you can access a special movie for Clone Wars.
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Akamai won't allow the link. Akamai sucks.
On the previous post about the trailer airing on Fox, many people said that they do not like the direction that Star Wars is taking. Although I agree with most of what these people say, some went as far as saying not to spend 10 dollars at the theatre to see it, but rather wait until rental time.
To those people who do not think this movie will be worth seeing, reconsider -- the visual effects in Phantom Menace did not disappoint, and from the looks of it, this movie will be just as nice with the CGI. As a fan of CGI, I was very happy with the pod race scene on a 40 foot screen, and I think I'll get my money's worth seeing the new movie when it comes out at theatres.
If you've read this far, you probably agree with me.
Does anyone else think some of these scenes look awfully familiar? I know Lucas wants to appeal to our sense of how much the original trilogy rocked but who wants a repeat of old material? I had to do a double take when I saw the trailer on TV, I had visions of Princess Leia in Jabba's palace again. I just hope he hasn't given everything away in the trailers and we'll still get a big surprise when we got to see it. Luke, I am your father...
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http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/clone_war/media/640/ clone_war_ctp_lp640.mov -- try that in QT 5 player itself. I can't guarantee that it works though.
"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb." -- Dark Helmet
Here's the correct link:l
http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/clone_war/index.htm
All the CGI looks like anime or something.
It doesn't look real. Something about the models, miniture sets and mock-ups of Hoth and other planets in the first three movies had a texture to them that made them more believeable. Also the camera didn't fly all over the place constantly.
Looks like another pod race type scene (a big CGI jack off session that has nothing to contribute to a story) and a lot more characters that you won't care about (but hey, if Lucas throws 300 new characters in he can sell figures of them all to people that have to buy every single one.
This crap almost makes you feel like becoming a Trekkie (shudder). At least they come up with an interesting story and leave the visuals as a compliment to it.
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It reminded me of TPM. Same look, same "blah" dialog.. except worse. The line from Yoda was embarassing. And they're using Bobba Fett to make clones? Sigh. The whole thing looked pretty, lots of action, but I'm afraid it's going to suck pretty bad. The trailer was disorganized and made my head hurt. Lots happened, but I'd have to see it again to make sense of it. I'm not looking forward to this.
Crap, I got 1/2 the trailer at the end of malcolm, the other 1/2 in the beginning of the Xfiles ... so I can't watch it all at once ... ARGH!
To go to the trailor site, simple solution:
:P
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Cut and paste the link into your browser
(Don't click on the link as it detects the referer address and it will block you.)
http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/clone_war/index.h
Dave
Fine, mod me down because you don't agree. But..
I was really unimpressed with the trailer; it seemed like they devised one of the most generic plots possible, threw some famous people at it, and bought themselves some expensive, but rather unimaginative, CGI. The result is fodder for the masses and the die-hard fans, with a perfect marketing opportunity for McDonalds tie-ins.
Lucas and his ilk really had the chance to take the high road here with these new Star Wars movies, and use his energy to create something imaginative, unique, and compelling. Instead he cranked out more fodder, really for nothing more than to continue milking money out of the franchise. Looks like it's continuing.
Disappointing.
Excellent point -- personally, I enjoyed Final Fantasy quite a bit. However, I'm a huge fan of the series, so I understood the underlying Gia themes. (It crops up several times throughout the series.)
The problem that Final Fantasy encountered was bringing an anime-esque film to the mainstream audience.
Bit late for that... possibly on my 116th?
,but maybe my cynicism has just gotten the best of me.. buhahaha no it hasn't haha.. Well maybe I'll be supprised and might actually like this cash cow. Only time will tell
Anyways its just seems like lucas is floundering here... focusing on too much of what audiences he wants to bring in and not on making an actual heart(though some would argue this point moot due to the theories of Lucas being tangibly heartless) backed film
btw: "FP" or some shit like that *sarcasm* yahooo!! */sarcasm*
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102 Posts saying the link is dead /. effect
101 Posts reposting the original link
57 Posts discussing
4 Posts that rip-off yoda there be only
13 Posts that post a new link, also dead
12 Posts that declare that link dead
41 Posts declaring that the trailer sucked, but that they'll see the movie anyway
17 Posts declaring that the trailer sucked, but that they'll rent it
2 Posts declaring that Star Wars is dead
31 Posts declaring the dark side (Walmart?) alive
I downloaded the .mov from the site by searching the HTML source for the URL to the .mov file itself, pasting that in my browser, waiting for the movie to load again, and then doing a Page Save.
Once I saved it onto my computer, I tried to play the trailer from my harddrive, but it gave me a message telling me I need QuickTime 5.02. I did Help About and it told me I HAVE QuickTime 5.02.
What gives?
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You don't have permission to access "http://applesw.download.akamai.com/ep2/clone_war
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So they show the trailer on Fox and then tell you to see "Ice Age" in order to see the theatrical version of the trailer...wow. A trailer for a trailer, with an inline hype for another picture. Wonder if the actual movie is that creative... rj
Quicktime pro is required to view the hi=res trailer, that's what people are complaining about, not the silly nag screens.
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There's so many odd tensions inherent in seeing the latest Lucas movie/product that it's tough to sort them all out...
- Lucas's movies from the 70's are the primary reason (debatably equal with Spielberg's movies) for the "blockbuster-centric" state of the movie industry today. (i.e. opening weekend-oriented, with receipts fading fast even for popular films, therefore "hyper-able" films with a fast return get the most attention). ergo, supporting a new Lucas film is consistent _not only_ with generally supporting the MPAA, but also with supporting the "big (and not necessarily smart, therefore often stupid) movies advertised with big $$" business model which the major studios are so slavishly following.
(hey! lucas started a tsunami of crap! he's indirectly responsible for tomb raider! lucas is bad!)
- OTOH, Lucas is in the ultra-elite group of filmmakers who is beholden to _none_ of the movie studios (i.e. MPAA). He doesn't _have_ to create "big blockbusters", this is the kind of movie he _wants_ to make. Lucas even has the clout to create his own distribution company (in addition to Lucasfilm's production end), ala the Spielberg/Geffen/Katzenberg Dreamworks, were he interested.
(hmm... lucas is powerful! but independent... therefore good?)
- Lucas has, in fact, been using his clout to push digital production _and_ display techniques (which would be going faster were it not for distributor/theater overgrowth and mismanagement... which is a side result of the "blockbuster mentality, but I digress...). Aesthetic questions of "digital film" aside), these techniques can dramtically lower distribution costs while increasing theater flexibility, and thereby create new opportunities for distribution and showing of "non-blockbuster" films (independent or otherwise low(er) budget)...
(yay! Lucas is good! he's undoing what he hath wrought! and doing cool digitial stuff! Lucas is good!)
- Lucas's narratives tend to reflect a rather benevolently feudal/fascist view of the world, in which an elite group (Jedi) rules over/provides protection to the general classes; he has furthermore stated his preference for "benevolent dictator" style organization for his businesses (Lucasfilm/ILM/etc.), as well as indicating that his films are very specifically his own (versus "for the fans")... this idealized feudalism is further reflected in his deity-like relationship with his (legions of) fans. i.e. Lucas' s "independent" streak is very much a part of a tendency towards complete control over his work.
(boo! Lucas is anti-democratic... but he's an artist, so it's OK... but he does this in business, too... and see how he treats his fans... but we love him! Lucas is, uh, is...)
Anyway, Lucas's position in Hollywood/business practices/audience relations/artistic bent are very much an integrated and consistent (but still complex) thing - at least to the point that it's hard to reduce it to pure "good" or "bad". Let's just call Lucas a unique, smart, lucky bastard and focus on more concrete matters.
Just something to chew on.
So I guess that Lucas is flattering The Fifth Element. Or am I the only one who had a little deja vu with the "speeding through three dimensional traffic patterns with futuristic cars, followed by vertical plunge shot?"
Also, blocking slashdot referrals? No class.
Requiring quicktime pro for the large screen trailer? No class.
Yet another "milk the shoddy trilogy" moment.
Why is that offtopic?????? what?!?! Stupid moderators.
I was amazed at the quantity of different scenes they managed to show in the trailer! Heck, for the amount of epic battle scenes you could probably get two movies!
Ok. I was not very impressed with the episode one, but I am willing to pony up for the next two. Even if they end up sucking, I think the first three (or second three movies (if you think about it)) movies make the $16 worth it.
At VERY least, I know I will get to see some of the best special effects ever made. Say what you will about story, but nowhere at the movies will you find a better exibition of cutting edge CGI and special effects. Nowhere.
Actually what is most disappointing, is the constant non-stop whining about how the new trilogy sucks.
:-)
C'mon people, please come up with new reasons for not liking the prequels. Do we have to constantly read about "continue milking money out of the franchise" ?
The movie looks like fun, big battles, cool characters, etc. If you've seen previous star wars films you know what to expect. Just saying , "it's not creative" enough amounts to saying nothing. What do you want ? I really doubt that you could come up with anything more creative that the visuals and excitement in those few minutes of the trailer.
Oh BTW, your post is not "creative". Did I already mention that ?
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for people in australia/asia pacific:
movie trailers
it's mirrored in avi (divx needed?) and mpeg from the callihq site.
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Right, big ships, a few explosions and some dodgy gunk-cum-plasma firing guns.
When are we going to see films that really capture the true scale of the energy levels we're going to be flinging around? I don't want to see ships throwing primary coloured blobs at each other, I want to see them fling high yield nukes, antimatter weapons that light up the sky and threaten to melt any surface nearby, I want to see missiles that fill space with incandescent plasma that fades before being blown appart as it's lanced by otherwise invisible beams of radiation.
I want to see acceleration an issue; I want to see people who couldn't get to a chair to scream in agony as they get crushed down by high G forces or get torn to bits by decompressions, not a few panels exploding and some lame shaking.
I want to see ground troops frying acres of land as they desperately try to kill an enemy, I want to see them blowing shit up with gauss guns and worryingly powerful antimatter devices, or proper ray guns where you only see what's reflected off dust and things they're melting/frying (and which cause the atmosphere to explode like lightning). Screw phasers.
I want to see believable universes, filled with Humans for a change; no humanoid "aliens" who happen to act like certain stereotypes (aliens will, of course, get a look in, but not as human analogs ffs); there's huge scope for different cultures, technologies, types of people and things people will become (from tweaked to entirely redesigned) that you get with humans alone without having to think up Unlikely Stereotypical Alien-with-ridged-forehead-and-attitude-problem 31338.
Of course, it's not going to happen.. tried and tested paper thin plots and people and a few shiny special effects is just too damn easy to throw together and make money out of.
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I just saw the trailer and it contains a HUGE SPOLIER!! Stop reading NOW if you don't want to hear it.
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Luke Skywalker's father is DARTH VADER!! Who would have thought??
See, George Lucas' inspiration for Star Wars came largely from a man by the name of Joseph Campbell. If you're unfamiliar with him, he was a renowned mythologist (really a mish-mash of cultural anthropologist and psychologist with a focus on cultural dialectics).
Mythology is rarely original. In fact, Campbell, were he alive, would likely point out that there are only a handful of basic mythological stories and most every contemporary myth has some root in a far more generic myth.
So, my point: indeed, there isn't anything original about Star Wars. It's just another way of characterizing a myth, in this case, the fall from grace, that has been around for thousands of years.
Its a ploy. Apple wants to enforce a DRM (Digital Rights Management) system into your computers to spy on you and take away your rights!
.mov out of my netscape cache, but under Quicktime 5 PRO (the one you pay money to get) it bitches and only plays audio track.
Quicktime 5, was not invasive and reswtrictive enough so they use this Star Wars bait to get you to foolishly "upgrade" to thier new DRM swill.
People need to write a tool to take Quicktime 6 and reencode for Quicktime 5.
Its bad enough that Apple historically gets these video coddecs by merely shopping and liscensing the object code of other corporations, but this new gambit of theirs is disgusting.
I managed to copy the star wars trailers 32 megabyte
I refuse to ley apple "auto-update" I have a stable system and do not need spy ware or softsware installed that prevents me from decoding to my own gWorld video driver buffers to capture nice Star Wars key frame snapshots in hirez.
The only reason to get these stupid trailers anyways is to show the hypocrisy and lies of Lucas. For example theo one big famous Episode One trailer shows a ship taking off from a planet but the video was actually run in reverse on purpose and he knew it. In the movie it was played in the correct animation frame order.
Lucas rapes and violates the integrity of his own work and imagery so this new cheesy low-rez waxyh looking crap in Star Wars 2 is no big shock to me.
Lord of the Rings is the new benchmark.
Lucas should just retire or open up a Jar Jar Binks amusement park.
Say no to DRM spyware
(repeated because a moderator keeps marking this as TROLL)
Mulch Better;
This is what we pay uncle george for. As for not original comments - shut up! That is what we have art house for you idiots! This is STAR WARS (duuuhhhh!!)
Here's the (hidden) direct link to the movie in "large format" (640x288):
e /ep2_clone_war_p640.mov
http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/clone_war/media/gat
From this link, you can save the entire 31MB movie to hard disk and play it whenever you want without downloading it again. I'm sure that they'll appreciate me doing this to help reduce the load on their server.
Is it just me, or is it becoming "cool" to rebel (!) against the new Episodes?
People assumed that Jar Jar would not be in the second episode at all. The trailers confirm he is back, I win the bets.
Even if he has diminished role or negligible role, the fact that Jar Jar is still present allows me to tell people who hate tJar Jar to avoid this low-rez cgi swill by merely reminding them they will have to see Jar Jar again.
Can't agree more. Two capital ships dueling with weapons that could level an entire planet is infinitely more cool than a bunch of little starfighters (that are never, ever going to exist in real life) somehow blowing apart a ship hundreds of times larger by ramming into its bridge. The sight of a nuclear explosion tearing across the hull of some hulking battlecruiser would be like a dream. But, like you said, it's never gonna happen.
As a quick side note, special effects for a more realistic space battle would probably be a lot more spectacular than anything we're seeing here.
If you need to interpret my post, then you don't get it.
WOW!!! I want this guy to make a video game
I want to play this video Game
and then if it was massivly muliplayer.. ya.. I would want that to.
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I was saddened and perplexed to see that Jar Jar is back even though he was supposed to be eliminated entirely. Lucas needs to listen and read these 10mostly unranked reasons Jar Jar should have been totally written out of Episode 2.
1 ** Sufferin' Succotash, Speech Impediment:
I understand that Lucas has a difficult task in creating a rich and diverse universe of alien races, each of which needs its own unique culture, look, and language. But he couldn't come up with anything better than "Moi moi, I wuv you!?" This is the first in a series of things that makes Jar Jar less realistic and more cartoonish than necessary.
2 ** Jar Jar, Future Winner of the Darwin Award
All right, you've got a stampede of frightened jungle creatures bearing down on you. They're followed by elephantine troop transports. Also, there's this jedi-hippy Qui-Gon guy heading right at you. What do you do? If you've got any survival instincts at all, you run. YOU RUN! Any creature, big or small, that doesn't flee simply deserves to have its genes exterminated.
2 ** Benedict Arnold. Twice!
Jar Jar, cowardly turncoat, reveals the ultra-secret refuge of his race not once, but twice! First, he reveals where the "secret" underwater city is after about 10 seconds of interrogation. Later, he doesn't even need any prodding to reveal where the backup secret "sacred" place is. I'm sure not telling him where my Y2K survival cabin is.
3 ** Five-Fingered Discount.
MOS ESPA POLICE BLOTTER - Tuesday, 10:45 AM. Local merchant reports that a passer-by attempted to shoplift from a street display of food. The perpetrator was described as a pink male, approximately 7 feet tall, with ritualistic tattoos covering both of his arms. Anyone with information on this crime is encouraged to call the Mos Espa police department's Crime Watch Hotline.
4 ** Bring the GPS Receiver, Jar Jar's 'Navigating.'
"We're going through the planet core, we'll need a navigator." (Or something like that.) Real bang-up job on that, Mr. Binks. He doesn't actually know where anything is, can't give even the most general helpful hint, and in fact, panics during some rather tense moments during the fish chase scene, constituting a distraction which had a very real chance to cause physical harm. Of course, with the force to guide them, the jedi come out ok, but this begs an explanation for why a navigator was so necessary in the first place.
5 ** Road Trip, Destination Mos Espa.
I simply can think of a but single reason Qui-Gon takes Jar Jar along with him on his mission to find a replacement Nubian warp drive. Qui-Gon secretly planned to sell Jar Jar into slavery when nobody was looking, in order to make money for the parts. That was a plan that I'm sure most audience members could have gotten behind. Unfortunately, Padme/Amidala insisted on tagging along, ruining Qui-Gon's plans.
6 ** Who Framed Jar Jar Rabbit?
Jar Jar is supposed to be the first major photo-realistic character in a motion picture completely generated by computers. Realistic. So why is he able to violate several of Newton's laws when he jumps into the water in a completely cartoon-like way? Star Wars is not a cartoon. When he's in Watto's shop, why does he juggle robot parts in the same non-Newtonian way? Star Wars is NOT A CARTOON. When he runs from the blue energy balls, once again--cartoon! George, I'll say it one more time--STAR WARS IS NOT A CARTOON.
7 ** Sun Tzu He Ain't.
Pity the Gungans. They're lead by Boss Nass, a man so blinded by his own inferiority complex that he decides to send his people into a slaughter to prove that not only aren't the Naboo thinkin theysa betta than tha Gungans, but the Gungans may in fact be betta than tha Naboo. Then, the Gungans have Captain Tarpals, who selects his second in command based upon, well, apparently no logic at all, since he selects Jar Jar. And of course, they're led into battle by "General" Jar Jar, who surrenders at the first opportunity (To an army with orders to commit genocide, no less! "Wipe them out--All of them!" Surrender means certain death!). Indeed, the sum total of JJ's military brilliance consists of saying, "Steady, steady." Such is the art of warfare.
8 ** Miscellaneous Dumb Quirks.
The Gungans have a law actually called 'Nocomebackie'? What the heck does "Maxi big da force" mean anyway? (If it means "The force is big," well, that's so dumb it hurts.) What's with Jar jar and the poop 'n' fart jokes? And did Lucas really name the whole race "Gungan" after a nonsense sound his son made? What's next, the "googoogagas?"
9 ** How Wude!
For a creature so obsessed with the social graces of others, berating them with his "How Wude!" sentiment, Jar Jar sure uncouth himself. Tongues are not for grabbing food.
10 ** Success through incompetence.
One of the core values that I hold is that hard work and talent breed success, and incompetence and laziness lead to failure. This isn't really such a novel idea; it should be pretty fundamental to anybody who thinks capitalism is a good thing. It's the basis for the American Dream.
Young Anakin Skywalker is a good example of these values. Anakin is filled with the force, so he's a great pilot without even trying. In spite of this, he also spends his free time exercising his mechanical skills, trying to search for his slave transmitter, and in general making himself a better person. When Anakin succeeds, we feel he deserves it.
Jar Jar is a mockery of these values. He's unintelligent, a coward, and lazy. He's mechanically inept. His clumsiness makes him such a burden on his society that they force him into exile. He is careless with military weaponry. He almost breaks the pod-racer by dropping an tool into a jet engine! And in spite of all of this, he succeeds too!
The idea that Jar Jar can succeed without trying simply because he's good-hearted is offensive to Libertarians everywhere.
Why did Lucas waver again. He has no integrity. First the video trailer clps showing scenes not in the movie, and now this doublecross of his fans.
Your feeble OSX is no match for the power of Slashdot...
Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to slashdot a website is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
Of course the plot seems generic, there are movies and storylines that they have to follow.
They never really showed any other sith for the Jedi to fight. I am sure that they created one, but didn't share that information in the trailers. The only part that I found to be bland in the thing was Yoda's dialogue. I never really understood why someone so old and wise couldn't speak elementary english. But I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
A real problem is that with the high-tech past, how does the future become so mundane in just a generation? They need to do a lot of explaining in the next two movies to show why and how they got from point A to point B, but enough of this off topic rant!
Try Independence War. Maybe it doesn't have the nukes, but the universe does have newtonian physics.
"The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than that of whether a submarine can swim" -EWD
A massive confrontation like this unfortunately leaves little room for personal interaction. Sure, you might have the last minute Kennedy to Khrushchev calls, but other than that, the plot would involve millions of people being blown up without even knowing the individual who pressed the button. Moviegoers want to watch movies that have some relevance to their life, and interpersonal relationships is one of the more complex and challenging topics for movies to explore.
The apple server isn't slashdotted (yet). It just wants a specific referring page, or it wants you to come straight in. Click the link from the article, get the error message, click in your URL window, and hit return again.
You can also find the trailer at planetmirror. This completes my collection; now I'll have a full CD-ROM full of stuff to keep me excited until the release date.
Secession is the right of all sentient beings.
personally I don't give a bloody damn what the rest of /. thinks I liked the trailer. just from the looks of it it COULD have the makings of a good movie so long as lucas spent the time between battles to fully develop the characters and story line. his past history works against him HOWEVER he could still come through.
The only way he could have that much fighting and still "grow" the characters is to have the movie be at least 2 hours(min) long, better would be like 2 1/2 to 3. let us all keep the hope alive.
And to all you lucas bashers out there GIVE THE MAN A BREAK HE FUBAR'D ONE STINKIN' MOVIE, GIVE HIM A BIT OF A CHANCE WILL YA!
if you want "No More Hiroshimas" then I say "You First. No More Pearl Harbors."
That would be anticlimatic. With insanely powerful weapons comes instant destruction. What fun is there in that? Worringly powerful weapons only brings about detante. Haven't you seen that already in the past 50 years? A believable universe won't make a more interesting film.
Sure some of your suggestions are cool, and a couple have already been done. Not in the A++ title or the one thats got the big budget, but they are out there.
Greg
Truly trying to make up for lack of action in past trailers!
Ya Sure! You Betcha!, The_THOMAS
I don't think Lucas was focusing on the action to downplay romance.
If you look at the Episode 1 trailers, and look at how Lucas does things, you'll see he likes to create a different effect with each trailer. The other trailer was a "love story" trailer, this one is an action trailer. I would not be surprised if there are one or two more that each emphasize a different theme or plot.
Feel free to raise the $200 million to make your movie, and make it yourself. Of course your movie will flop because most intelligent human beings would rather watch a movie where people talk to one another rather than to instantly vapourize them.
Is it just me, or does the lead guy (Hayden Christensen) look like one of the backstreet boys?
No wonder they nixed letting the boys be in the movie...Everyone would have confused them with the lead, and it'd have been a really big mess...
"...you can steal my woman, but you ain't done nuthin' smart."
The pod race is a visual allusion to the chariot race in Ben Hur. Ben hur, for those who haven't seen it, is the story of a man who turns to violence to avenge his mother and sister, and finds redemption through the love of Christ.
Agree with the "too much CGI" comment though.
I put them in /usr/lib/win32 like it said, and I get no video.
/ libwin32.so: found A: 13 V: 46 pluginse c.so: found A: 1 V: 0 plugino enc.so: found A: 1 V: 0 plugin. so: found A: 1 V: 0 plugin: found A: 5 V: 0 plugins
Anybody know what this means?
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Successfully opened ep2_clone_war_p640.avi
/usr/local/lib/avifile0.6
/usr/local/lib/avifile0.6/libmpeg_audiod
/usr/local/lib/avifile0.6/libmp3lame_audi
/usr/local/lib/avifile0.6/libmjpeg.so: found A: 0 V: 1 plugin
/usr/local/lib/avifile0.6/libmad_audiodec
/usr/local/lib/avifile0.6/libffmpeg.so: found A: 2 V: 5 plugins
/usr/local/lib/avifile0.6/libaudiodec.so
/usr/local/lib/avifile0.6/libac3pass.so: found A: 1 V: 0 plugin
CreateVideoDecoder(): Unknown codec 0x30355844 = "DX50"
IAviPlayer: FATAL: Failed to initialize decoder object
No video will be available
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WTF? when i first replied to this comment (see the game comment i made) it was +4 insightfull.. now its 2 Troll. how dose that work?
The More Knowledge you have the Luckier you Get- J.R. Ewing
In the extras in ep. I, Lucas was saying he wanted the look and feel of the first episodes vs. the next 3 to mirror the product evolution of the US before and after the industrial revolution. So on one hand, you have machines that are hand-made by craftsmen, then everything gets industrialized and you get the more mass-produced look of eps. 4-6.
Personally, I think it's a neat idea, but I agree with you--he didn't think it all the way through and it looks wierd. How come the technology in the ep. 1 is no less advanced, if not more advanced? Maybe what he should've done is make eps. 1-3 with the exact same moviemaking technology that he used in the 70's, except when he needed a shot that was impossible to do without CG, he should've done some CGI, except make it look like animatronics or puppets, rather than real life. For some reason, I find it a lot easier to suspend my disbelief in eps. 4-6, even though the effects in ep. 1 supposedly look more realistic.
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Just one little thing, that url, "http://applesw.download.akamai.com/ep2/clone_war/ index.html", is not Apple's server. It's an Akamai mirror, running Linux.
...Not that heavy load was the problem in the first place. They're denying external referrals.. on purpose of all things.
cLive ;-)
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my old trick for getting around Apple's lame referrer check for "Quicktime Pro" has failed:
/ clone_war_ctp_ap640.mov
wget -U "QuickTime (qtver=5.0.2;os=Windows NT 5.1)" http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/clone_war/media/640
anybody else had any luck?
Is it just me, or did the desert battle scenes remind you of (God save us) Wild, Wild West?
Try replaying the video with the sound turned down and Will Smith's theme music in the background.
http://www.movie-list.com/s/starwars2.shtml
I think part of the problem is that with CGI, they don't have the limitations of real life, so they just forget about them. "Hey, let's make the camera fly around the race course at a million mph. Ooo, cool." "Okay, while you do that, I'm going to make my CG character figit around annoyingly while the real actors are talking just because I've got a handle on Inverse Kinematics." WTF? Real life actors can sit still, why can't CG ones?
I think someone needs to come up with a plug-in for Softimage (or whatever program they use) that will prevent the virtual camera from doing anything a normal camera couldn't do in real life. Like if you moved it too high, it would make you build a virtual crane to hold it in position. Or if you moved it around in the air, you'd get a $3,000 virtual helicopter rental fee deducted from your bank account.
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First if all, QuickTime 6 is not even out yet. Second, Apple could care less about DRM. As a matter of fact they are pushing open standards and the ability to use media as you see fit. Unlike Microsoft. ... otherwise... pirate away ;).
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Hell, look at the iPod and iTunes. Apple dished those out with a sticker that says "be good"
Fuuuurthermore. Quicktime 6 is not going to be very different from QuickTime 5. It is basically the same player with support for things like MPEG 4, Flash 5, etc.
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640 trailer
1. How many businesses do you know that take input from the lower ranks do help in the higher ranks decisions? (I mean significantly, not just "oh, yes, we like the doughnuts with the sprinkles for our coffee breaks")
2. Regardless of any politics, this is Star Wars. If it were any other movie I'd say let your politics rule your decision on whether or not to go. In this case however, it's STAR WARS! sorry, guess i've been lookin forward to this for too long. (and no, i didn't like phantom menace)
"Lucas's movies from the 70's are the primary reason (debatably equal with Spielberg's movies) for the "blockbuster-centric" state of the movie industry today. "
Well, also consider that before they developed the Blockbuster model, Hollywood was going bankrupt. They were so desparate in the early 70s that they tried everything -- even art movies!
Not that the current output is all that great, but it's probably better than the alternative (TV production taking over, which happened in many other countries).
As far as feudalism, it sounds as if Lucas has holed himself up with a bunch of worshipping techies that are enamored with his vision and pushing the state of the art up on his 'ranch' in Marin.
I would say that PM certainly _did_ try to pander to the fanbase (think of all the walk-on appearences of famous characters), but the fact that Lucas didn't have to have his cut approved by a studio certainly showed.
Is Anakin going to become Vader in this episode? That would be the best, as the whole next movie we could see him in action. Yet, maybe Anakin is too young...
BTW, How come Anakin grows up so fast, and the Queen still looks like a teen? Then they fall in love... in the first movie there was a big age difference... it's a little strange. Oh well, just a movie.
That was some really nice looking fight stuff in the preview. Yoda was so glowy green he looked like he had more life in him and I thought that was cool. I am guessing they placed the trailer between the dork kid show and the dork adult show to hit their target audience... I used to run projection at a theatre and it always bugged me the kinds of trailers they want to put in front of certain shows and all, so I rebelled one day and put on some horrors and dirty previews before all the rated G shows. I got fired, but before I was canned I spliced the reels out of order on a really boring movie. I heard that nobody noticed or said anything for about a week, until one very particular person noticed that a charachter in the movie who had died was alive again. Anyway.. I think its going to be cool seeing Mace Windu fight. He's the guy with the light sabre that says bad mutha *&%#er on it.
i said n/t. that means no text. please stop reading.
Why is Slashdot still posting this junk? After the flop of SW1 it has been clear that the new movies aren't even remotely watchable. If Lucas would have gotten his mind thru with the 3 older ones as well, they would have been alike disasters. Check the ORIGINAL scripts from the Internet in case you don't believe. They are horrible , although the final movies themselves rocked.
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Have fun.
"When are we going to see films that really capture the true scale of the energy levels we're going to be flinging around?"
it's very sad to see you not realize the story told in the Star Wars movies took place a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.
What a dark day this is for Slashdot!
You're using her as bait, Master!
What a bunch of whiners. It's Star Wars for pity's sake, not religion. Well, that's not totally true, but those people need a life anyway.
The point is, this is just a good time, hang on to your seat, suspend reality for a while, general wahoo film. It won't change your life, it isn't meant to.
I for one, think it looks like fun. Can't wait! 8)
Geez. Stupid Whiners.
The first one sucked therefore I have no yearning to see the second one.
I saw the first on video about 6 months after it came out and it was most likely the worst film I'd seen that year - in fact, I couldn't even watch the whole thing it was so bad.
Don't fool yourselves - there's nothing special about this latest re-incarnation of Star Wars, it's simply a cash-cow for lucas films.
CGI - bleh - big deal.
A slashdotting - you get the stick first and then the carrot !
Read a book.
Hollywood isn't ready for that yet. Who knows why, I agree it would be cool, ideal and just all around nice if they did it.
I recommend the Hyperion series.
I'm sorry, but doesn't anyone have the balls to say, "George...that sucks. Come up with a better idea." I mean, sure he made some kick butt films, but that was when he was still hungry. These days everybody that works for him just tells him what he wants to hear! I can picture the production meetings...George walks in, tells everyone his "great ideas," and leaves. Later an artist can be overheard saying, "Right, and then George told me that he wanted Jar Jar's ears to be really floppy. And I told him, 'George you are PURE GOLD!'"
Looks like Steve didn't jive on our plot for some free beer.
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w00t - man, now thats faaast!
Here's the email addy for Starwars public relations. Give them hell for forcing users to buy Quicktime Pro for $30.
It sounds like you're hankering for the Battletech universe.
Unfortunately, most of the fighting in that series of books / RPG takes place on land - constant wars the cause of mass-destruction technologies being lost.
However, it does base everything on sound scientific principles (fusion reactors, wormholes/space folding for inter-stellar travel).
i dunno, msybr it's just me, lucas has done wonders for the movie industry. people still flock to his releases, just like poele flocked to AI because it was a speilburg film. i havent seen AI to date, but hear it's a good move, even with it's downfalls(can i relate that to buddhism's philsoophy of a middle path, or would that be non-31337?) people like him are good because of one reason among many: he employs several thousand people. yes, this may be off-topic but it is very relevant. i worked at a theater for more than 2 years, and watched people get fired for bs reasons because the industry was at a lapse, watched families make a living(if you can call it that) off of the indusry. yeah, maybe lucas can never re-create the legacy he had once created. but he is still helping our economy. i seriously wonder how many people realize that over 80% of ticket costs go to thesimple cost of a copy of film. do you realize that a single copy of most films costs over 100grand? a film by lucas or speilburg can cost in excess of a quarter of a million dollars. a theater, regarless of what movies it is showing is always on the edge of being over budget. they rely on people showing up to buy tickets to pay for the film they have(which is rented, not bought) and to buy concessions(where the bulk of the theater makes money, if any, most of the money at the concession stand makes is spent paying the people who work it, which typically make less that $7 an hour, i worked for 2 and a half years, was one of the best employees below management, and only made it to $5.90 an hour)). yeah, this movie will never live up to the expectations of the start wars elitist fans, but it will still draw money to pay people so that they can make a living. in summary, lucas and speilburg(let alone kubrick, when he was alive) have more than a responsibility to the fans to keep releasing quality movies(and yes, even episode 1 was a quality move, i saw it several dozen times, and when you let go of the legacy and watch the movie for what it is, it was great), they have a responsibility to help the economy keep going, so that we ALL have jobs to go to, and that the people that dont have college degrees because the cant afford them can have jobs, so they can support their children. there's alot more riding on these peoples shoulders than you may think. we all know it will probably never live up to expectations, but think about it, do you really want a 2 year old to starve to death because you wouldnt go see a movie to pay for them to eat for another day? sorry. had to say it. i share alot of you views about these movies, but i still will go and pay to see them within the first few opening weeks, just like many of you will. i havent seen a movie in theaters in over a year, but movies like these are what the industry depends on.
The end of the trailer with the jedi swirling around against.. robots -(blah) looks as if the fight takes place in an arena. WTF? Will Mr. Crowe come out with N-synk in the fight scenes as well?
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"First things first -- but not necessarily in that order"
-- The Doctor, "Doctor
I count 5 scenes just in that trailer that were ripped straight out of other movies, not just the original 3 star wars films either.
1. Bar fight scene: Obi-wan spins around and whips out his light sabre. From the original Star Wars scene: Obi wan whips out the sabre in a bar and chops off some alien's arm.
2. Anakin jumps out of the air-car: camera follows him falling, while air-cars zoom around us. From The 5th Element: (couple of scenes) Milla Jovovich as Leelu jumps off the building and air-cars zoom around. Also Bruce Weiner makes his cab dive straight down and more zoomage occurs.
3. Anakin and Amidala on retracting plank: what comes next, the old kiss for luck? From Empire Strikes Back I think: Luke and Leia in the Death Star or something, find themselves on a retracted bridge over an apparently bottomless pit, and Luke shoots a line somehow and they swing to safety (after the kiss).
4. Amidala on top something: Her hands are shackled and she swings her chain around to fight off some monster, we get a sexy shot of her butt. From Empire (right?): Leia is in chains and slave of Jaba, the battle starts, she uses her chains to kill Jaba, wearing sexy metal clothes.
Ok so 4 scenes, but still...that's just in the damn trailer. I can't help but feel offended by that. Someone should have really said to Lucas, "George, this scene is just like in Empire" or whatever... Alright whatever, I'm probably going to see it when it comes out, it looks like fun right? As long as there's not Gungans.
Also, another peeve: The last words of the trailer where Yoda says "Begun, this clone war, has." Yoda would never say that, jeebus. He would have said "Begun has this clone war." Fer chrissakes Lucas, you created the character, what the hell were you thinking..
The whole thing makes me think of Iain M. Banks, whose book "Consider Phlebas" came from his response to the original Star Wars: "I can write a better sci-fi movie than that shiat!" (ok paraphrased).
"What thou shalt not, I shalt did!" -Bart Simpson
Before this was released EVERYONE who had seen it via a sneak peak raved about where Yoda catched some sort of blue lighting in his hand that someone shot at him and gets angry and throws it back... I didn't see this anywhere in the trailer? Does anyone have it?
simply because Jimmy Smits is in it. Yes, Jimmy Smits. You can't take this movie seriously.
Mentioned at the end of the trailer. Whois reports owned by Lucasfilm. Lots of background stuff into ep. 2. Check it out.
Is it me, or does Yoda say "Begun, this corn war has"? Listen carefully at 2:10.
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Which means it won't be that great.
Let me say what I mean though, which is:
George Lucas is a great writer
George Lucas is a terrible director.
Look back at the original 3. Compare and Contrast the first with the last of those two. Thankfully Lucas only wrote the last two and did not direct them. Not he is back at directing. The movies aren't terrible, because he is a good writer, but I really wish he would let someone else direct.
It's common film-industry practice when making trailers to take music from some other source to score the trailer. This is because at the point when most trailers are made, the scoring of the actual film has not yet been completed (or in some cases even begun), so they don't yet have anything to work with.
In most cases, the music is entirely unrelated, except in mood. For instance, Carmina Burana's "O Fortuna" is a favorite for trailers involving a lot of action (such as the one for Cutthroat Island); so well-known is it that Williams borrowed heavily from it for "Duel of the Fates" in Episode One.
But in movies that are part of a series, then naturally they'll use music from earlier in the series. Better to have the music be familiar and evocative than for it just to be evocative.
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Would somebody care to explain why an upgrade to Quicktime Pro is required to watch a piece of video? I mean - I'd LIKE to think that Apple were not trying to make a fast buck out of the desire to watch the latest SW trailer, but ..erm.. I really dont see why else it might be?
Apple, you suck. Your computers suck, your attitide sucks. You are greedy. If you were not greedy, you would have ruled the desktop market by now, so who's laughing now? HAR HAR HAR. Losers.
...insist that one need "PRO" version of the QuickTime to watch big version? I just opened this URL http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/clone_war/media/gate /ep2_clone_war_p640.mov in regular QUickTIme player and got nice, full screen trailer - not some smallish window they force you to see on the web page. And even on the web page this bullshit about getting a paid Pro version. What a bunch of crap.
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Pick up a book. I'm not trying to be snide; I think you're going to find much more of the kind of inventiveness you're looking for in sci-fi novels than you ever will in the movies.
WWII-era space battles and balkanized aliens are just too much of a staple. Farscape has some slightly more interesting aliens, in that they're not all humanoid, but they still adhere to more or less cartoony personality types.
I think it's just a limitation of the television / movie medium. Well, not of the medium, but of the economic circumstances driving the medium.
Click on your URL field, and hit enter. No more referral header, no more refusal of service.
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Mozilla preferences allow me to use my middle mouse button such that when I click a link with it, it opens in a new tabbed window -- not only does this resolve the issues with direct hyperlinking via /., but its easily the most satisfying feature of the browswer itself (well, that and my crossover plugin).
Rejected by women first, and now Star wars is rejecting me. What can we nerds turn to next...
Dare I say: Boob job? In one big go..:)
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was it just me or did Natalie Portman look smoking hot in this new trailer? I've never found her very attractive, but in this trailer, I mean damn. ;)
If you want to explore your own inner landscape read Inner Guide Meditation by Steinbrecher(sp?)and have yourself a load of visions. Enjoy. Maybe I'll send a copy to Lucas.
They should be using servlets.
"Under the iron bridge, we fist" - The Smiths, Still Ill
The obligatory
how about a beowulf cluster of these??
Now it is complete
It seems as though the characters in ep 1 lack the personality seen in the first three movies. In a new hope, we had an idealistc farm boy, a rogue with a heart of gold and a princess thrown together in an epic adventure. This was far more entertaining than watching a couple of boring pious jedi and a poor attempt at comic relief going through the motions of the plot, without the characters having any real vitality
IMHO for episode 2 to be its best, Lucas needs to inject life into the movie by making the characters more than just people dragging along a plotline
There are many cool things about it but the coolest thing is the absence of Jar Jar.
What a geek!
...think I'll point out some of the things I like about the trailer.
The whole look is a hybrid between Episode I and the original trilogy. I particularly like the way they have aged Palpatine - McDiarmid subtly adding the lower lip quiver we associate with the Emperor.
The 1st generation star-destroyer like things, and the ATATs (without heads). Yes, everything is turning grey and Empire like.
Yoda's little floating platform - awesome. Flying R2, it's cheesy - but go little guy!
The clones look fantastic. Notice the squadron leader with the red markings on his helmet.
Christopher Lee.
One lightsaber in each hand - maybe in film three we'll see a dual lightsaber in each hand...
Things I don't like:
Those monkeys with wings from 'Return to Oz'.
Dodgey London accents from the clone guy and the blue-horn guy.
CG Yoda is, well, CG. Nuff said.
Samuel L really is hopeless.
For those of you pointing out all the similarities between the original trilogy, er, hello? You're missing the point completely.
Where are the hot grits?
I think Lucas, in general, is doing what he can with Star Wars. He wants to make the story into movies, he is now going backwards.... doing the older part of the plot after everyone already has built their own past for all the characters and probably even role-played parts of it.
He's bound to get flamed even if the new films are cooooool.
But in general, I think his development is really a fluke, a movie that took off and even today, ask yourself this question: did I say that the movie Phantom Menace sucked? And how many times did I watch it?
Rarely do I view movies twice. In spite of my apprehensions and all, I still ended up watching Phantom Menace three times. I haven't watched any other movies that many times!
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It could be coming. I heard a rumour (don't ask me where, I can't remember) that somebody had got hold of the film rights for E.E. 'Doc' Smith's Lensman series.
Seven books of epic space combat on the same sort of scale or larger (planet sized balls of antimatter enough for you?) If it gets anywhere it should be worth a look, the books are way cool if a little dated these days.
OK, in the new trailer that aired last night after Malcolm, right after Yoda says "In grave danger you are", there's something I can't believe. You see Obi-Wan jumping through some kind of press that's trying to crush him vertically. Didn't Lucas see GalaxyQuest?! As Sigourney Weaver would say, "This episode was badly written!"
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You obviously have never seen a Star Wars movie, nor do you know what you want out of it. Star Wars is science fiction. Star Wars is space opera. Star Wars is not a chick flick starring Ben Affleck, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, or any of those pussyboys. If that's what you want, go watch the historically inaccurate Pearl Harbor. If you're a real nerd, you would know we don't care about interpersonal relationships in Star Wars, and that we don't want to see it. Go worship Jar Jar and DUAAFAFO! (Do us all a favor and f**k off!)
bitch bitch bitch If you think the movie is going to suck, don't go you bunch of zombies. It's as easy as that. I think the movie looks fun.
They now block referrer Slashdot, so:
1. Turn off referrer logging if you have Opera.
2. If you don't use Opera but do use Proxomitron, use that to turn off referrer.
3. If neither of the above is an option for you, cut the link and paste it into a new instance of your browser.
Happy hunting!
Watching EP1 last night on the Movie channel I had a rather interesting insight. That Anakin is/was always the second Sith [candidate].
Anakin 'imaculate conception', hint's of genetic engineer, aka The Clone-Wars.
Palpatine familiarity with Tatooine, 'a minor outland planet on the edge of known space', he clearly knows about it, Why ? He Certainly he has some interest in it!
Tatooine close proximatly to Naboo, Palpatine home planet. Convenient or Coincidence ?
Qui-Gon Jinn believed Anakin to be the Chosen One spoken of in an ancient prophecy, the one who would bring balance to the Force. What does he know to suggest he is not a natural produced/wild Jedi? And Why is training Anakin, the most important thing/ last wish he asked of Obi-Wan ?
Anakin's unatural talent for machines, when Jedi are supposed to be connected to living things.
Anakin 'training' on Tatooine.
Bobafetts links to Tatooine, and Palpatine and Sith's.
...until the link was posted to Slashdot...
> A massive confrontation like this unfortunately leaves little room for personal interaction.
Nope; you're not going to make a film entirely out of that, there's plenty of room for getting across the raw panic/cold determinism/etc of the people involved, then you've got space for setting up these huge battles, all the politics and interpersonal relationships that caused them etc, then the after effects as people risk their lives to save survivors. And of course, you've got the more mundane aspects of the lives of the main characters.
Really, you're not going to make a movie entirely out of that sort of large scale battle; they're probably not going to last long anyway (how long do you think anyone would survive these sort of battles without either being vaporised, running out of ammo, overheating or deciding to run away?), and nobody's going to go about nuking planets/space stations/each other without good reason. You might as well say the same about any movie; sure, done badly it'll end up being a special effects showcase and nothing else, but hey, it's not going to be any worse than what we already have, is it?
star wars is for fags. the newer ones anyways. learn to let go people.
He co-wrote it with Lawrence Kasdan (who had finished the ESB script after Leigh Brackett died).
So that's why it "looks more like a Lucas movie."
(i.e., why is sucked).
> With insanely powerful weapons comes instant destruction.
Not really; with insanely powerful weapons comes equally powerful defense; launch a volly of missiles at someone, they launch a bunch back, fire a beam of radiation at someone, they fire a cloud of reflective chaff back and disapate the heat (or hiding behind the huge cloud of radiation your missiles (and by missiles, think: semi-intelligent minature warships with submunitions, big, dirty drive systems that cloud everything etc)).
Soldiers get smart "skins" which solidify and conduct excess heat into the ground, meaning it takes nothing short of a direct hit to kill them (not to mention the boosted bodies which are more capable of taking damage).
It doesn't always become more instant (even when it does, nobody's going to want to fry ground forces from orbit, just like nobody now wants (or can arrange) to start throwing nukes around), since both sides won't be standing still.
Not sure how it got to +4, +3 is the best I count (maybe you have a +1 modifier on Insightful comments?) but since you asked:
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This is why we have metamoderation
> Read a book.
> Hollywood isn't ready for that yet.
Well, it is still fairly "early"; who knows what will happen in the next few years/decades/centuries.
> I recommend the Hyperion series.
The Reality Dysfunction series is rather good too. Peter Hamilton++;
A couple of book suggestions. Movies just ain't gonna cut it here.
Eric
"Seven Deadly Sins? I thought it was a to-do list!"
Doesn't the line of Fett clones look a bit like storm troopers? Is this the first generation of troopers?
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Has anyone noticed how the scene where Anakin jumps off the levitating car is eirily similar to a scene from The Fifth Element?
-B
I think that you're putting far more thought into the subplots of the Star Wars universe than George Lucas does.
Personally, I think that he has a dart board that has his various plot elements, then he just strings them haphazzardly together.
Why are you letting these clowns ruin our country?
Hm... I wonder who they could possibly use as another Sith villain to kill, after the popularity of Darth Maul... what was the name of this movie again?
Does it include the new *nSync song on the trailer!? Does (insert some nsync guy's name here) have a new haircut!?
Ooh ooh, I gotta get my hands on that sexy sell-out flavah!
Star Wars 1,2,3 Good stuff.
It's all downhill from here; geeks and 14 yr old boy bands don't mix.
I have spoken blashpheme against ye geekdom; mod me as troll.
Blah.
Lucas is a whore.
Die.
We dance to all the wrong songs.
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It is not required. It's only required to bypass the stupid "click-to-play" screens, but if you pay attention to the request it sends out you can directly download the actual movie file and play it in an unregistered quicktime.
Either you're not smart enough to figure this out on your own, or you're intentionally spreading falsehoods. Either way, stop it.
Two words: Honor Harrington by David Weber
His father he is, but face him he will!!! Die rebel scum...
Life Sucks... Have a Beer and a Smoke then Smile Damnit!!!
jokes start all over again????
-Michael Roy Some people are like Slinkies. Not really useful, but you can't help smiling when you see one tumble down
Try the Sten series for some seriously fun, yet light james bond like sci-fi with the baddest space battles imaginable, especially towards the end of the seris. It's fun and at the same type has several condemations of man, all wrapped up in epic sci-fi style and giant battles. Cool stuff, just take it with a grain. Honor Harrington is good stuff too, so are the Man-Kzin Wars, and for ground warfare David Drake puts out some interesting stuff (BOLOs Rule!)
Life Sucks... Have a Beer and a Smoke then Smile Damnit!!!
Wing Commander... the light carrier moving into battle against the Cats heavy CR and two DD's. The ship to ship fighting was interesting, though I would picture more missles in each volley. When they closed to 'broadside range', it was interesting also. Bab 5 has some of these elements too. But ultimately, no movie has yet tackled massive emperial warfare between empires having thousands of planets and trillions of citizens, massive fleets with captial ships on the scale of the Executioner (and lots of them). The Wingman books capture this somewhat, in WWII hero fashion, as do the Sten and Lensman books. I have always dreamed of a 4X game that focuses on massive empires with massive multiple fleets and legion sized ground units hurling anti-matter energy at each other from long and close range, fighters slashing in to nip away while fast escorts in the van duke it out with hunter killer torpedos the size of small fighters. Won't happen though... the graphics for computer games won't deal with the poly and this won't get made until they can release it as a game. FreeSpace 2 is somewhat close...
Life Sucks... Have a Beer and a Smoke then Smile Damnit!!!
I remember this happening for the first trailer. Anybody heard of people who plan to buy tickets to Ice Age just to see the trailer on the big screen, and then walk out? I forget what the movie for the first trailer was, but I heard stories of people who paid admission price just to see the trailer. Ah well, perhaps it was because it was the *first* trailer for the first new movie...
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy is increased. Thus we refute entropy" - Spider Robinson
It's painfully obvious that in every other scene the actors are standing in front of a blue screen. The office/council rooms and bridge/walkways all look CG. It looks fake.
Compare that to the sets of pre-CG SF movies (including the original SW trilogy). They were sometimes rather crude but you knew everything you were seeing was real. The props, the walls, the decor--it was all tangible, hard matter that despite being "fake" (i.e. gadgets that don't exist in our universe), looked real. Not to say the CG stuff isn't created with the same attention to detail, but it calls attention to itself. In the back of your mind you're thinking, "That looks just a little off." Which is enough to jar some viewers out of that engrossed state where they forget they are watching a movie.
Unfortunately Lucas is so enamored with all things digital that he appears to want to shoot scenes with a blue screen even if it isn't really necessary. It might be overlooked if the script and acting were up to par, but based on what we've seen so far, it won't be.
In a universe that fast FTL, planet destruction is pice of cake.
1. take ship with FTL.
2. Fly ship at light speed into planet.
3. watch atmosphere explode.
Just for reference, I pieces of material(less thena kilo gram), tracelling at about 100th the speed of light, leveled a 10 mile radius.
who needs a death star?
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
> - Lucas's narratives tend to reflect a rather benevolently
> feudal/fascist view of the world, in which an elite group (Jedi) rules
> over/provides protection to the general classes; he has furthermore
> stated his preference for "benevolent dictator" style organization for
> his businesses (Lucasfilm/ILM/etc.), as well as indicating that his
> films are very specifically his own (versus "for the fans")... this
> idealized feudalism is further reflected in his deity-like
> relationship with his (legions of) fans. i.e. Lucas' s "independent"
> streak is very much a part of a tendency towards complete control over
> his work.
I don't know much about Lucas' managerial style, but the Jedi are, of course, based on the fascist Samurai caste of feudal Japan. Star Wars was (by Lucas' admission) based heavily around the glorious films of the Japanese director Akira Kurosawa (most heavily based around "The Hidden Fortress", where the Obi-Wan Kenobi prototype wins a lance duel with the Darth Vader prototype, and the Princess Leia prototype routinely beats the shit out the prototypes for C3P0 and R2-D2. It also had elements of "Yojimbo", which was also the basis for "A Fistful of Dollars.")
The reason each film after "A New Hope" has been progressively shittier is that Lucas has forgotten to properly plagiarize from the great directors of the past. This a proven method of quality filmmaking. Kurosawa himself never minded people ripping him off, because he considered himself a heavy plagiarist of John Ford. Scorcese's (arguably) best film, "Taxi Driver", was based around Ford's "The Searchers." Great directors rip off other great directors. This makes for good filmmaking, and keeps history and a common culture alive. Lucas doesn't need more Joseph Campbell hoo-ha, he needs to remember how to rip off the great ones again.
At the risk of being slashdotted, this is my article on Campbell and Star Wars: http://www.freenet.tlh.fl.us/~kap678/theforce/inde x.html
Then I saw the one that focused on the battles and how it became such a 'time of trouble' where hero's did their stuff, etc. That seemed pretty neat too. Then I saw the preview in which the narrator sounded like she had just been finishing up her latest Barney the Dinosaur introduction when she performed this... it was obviously aimed at children... little children. Lines like "come make a friend" and "Come share in the fun" made me just stare at the screen in shock and worry. However, denial is stronger than the force, so I kept telling myself it wasn't that bad... until I believed it.
THEN... the movie came out and I understood. Like a kid with spare parts and glue, Lucas had created this Marketing monster that grasped wildly at all possible branches of the market in order to gain money from its 'mass appeal.' Instead of those portions being a natural and integrated part of the story, it was painfully obvious they were deliberately placed in... it reminded me of grammer school... when you would be handed 50 very odd words and would then be forced to write a story that used them all. Even then (much more so now) I thought that the attempts (mine were horrible) were very amusing and pathetic. That same awkward and blunt raping method of introducing those words was much like Episode I.
So, I guess I was wrong after all... it seems that those previews were not stretching at all. The previews very much focused in on the very distinct and deliberate sections of the movie that were for that particular audience/market.
So, I hope that the action in the second episode is there for a reason, not just some 'instant action-fan attractor v1.5.2' that of course would radiate to all the other aspects of the movie. I don't even scoff at the sappy portion (the love story), if it is the actual theme... any teenager can find his romantic encounters putting him over the edge, especially if denied or scorned... now add unbelievable powers with an angst ridden background and you have a terrible problem (but great for a flick :)
However, is it baseless for me to worry that Lucas and friends will over play the love story aspect to attract more women and teenagers, etc? Will the market grabs be as obvious as the first one? As a comparison... think back to 'The Truman Show' remember how it was so painfully obvious how the wife was 'introducing' certain items with their little catch phrases to the 'audience' yet trying to make it look normal? Remember how Truman noticed this? That was like me when the lights went out at the end of Episode I... I really hope that is not the case again.
a rebuttal:
1) Not all races will have a mouth shaped like ours. Had no problem wit this my self. This might be because my son is in speech theorpy, and if there are people of this race whoi can't speek it clearly, why would we expect aliens to?
2)Certianly thats a terran instinct, but Jar-Jar is an alien, from an underwater city. perhaps they don;t have any preditors that stalk them on the land? I suggest you read the ring world serious.
2)(you listed 2 twice) thew Jedi are known through out the Universe has protectors of the peace. In the SW universe it wouldn't be unthinkable for someone to do this.
3)not sure of this reference,but perhaps his race has no concept of monetary exchange?
4)So, underwater his flight instinct is intact?
5)hmmm ok.
6)apperantly, SW is a cartoon now. but then so is Heavy metal, Cowboy bebop, and Akira. doesn't mean its not good. Beside, maybe Jar-Jar is using the force? Because a great meny thing happen in all the movies that defy physics.
7)I see your point, the funny think is, if they protrayed Jar-Jar has intentionally releasing the globes, he would have been much less "goofy side kick", and far more, "Alien we don't quite understand"
8)Again, he's alien, He is not speaking his common language. In many languages, there are words that rtanslate into "silly" phrases.
9)again, alien race. Rudeness is a mater of social convention.
10)Success through incompetence.
that is through out the movie. You site anakin. ok, oops sarted ship, oops got it off the ground,oops now I'm in space, oops now I'm in a key military ship, oops, blew it up, whew, got out in "the nick of time"(won't mention how clishe ship barley excaping explosion is becoming)
oops, go it into the atmosphere, oops managed to land it.
sheesh.
all that said, I didn't like Jar-Jar for one simple reason: He was close to being a geate character. Sometimes Just missing the mark is worse then missing the whole target.
If I was to change 1 thing about EP1 I wouod remove the Medi-chloridean references. With that single thing, Lucas destroyed his mythos. Instead of "the force is strong with this one" he had to give it some root in "science".
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I disagree.
George Lucas put a lot of thought into just those details. Thats what he does best. If he would back off and let the director handle the details, EP1 would have been far better.
Thoose thing the original poster noticed is exactly what I noticed during the movie, and what I liked best about the movie.
Clearly Anakin was genetically engineered, but by whom? probably Palpatine.
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Personally, I think Anakin takes the dark side because he know, ultimatly it will destroy the Emperor.
Your clue with the machine is an excellant observation. That now make 2 of us who clued in on that:)
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I'm amused by all the yawns, the "so what" comments, the "at least I don't see that kid|jarjar|whatever". Cause you're probably all gonna go see it. Right? Right? :^)
I think it's folly to judge the upcoming episode based entirely on rumor and a couple trailers. The whole point of a trailer is to make a movie look good and entice people to see it. Very often, the trailer is much better than the movie ever could be. In extreme cases, the trailer contains the sum total of the good material in the movie. There really is no way to correlate how well a trailer is put together with how well the movie turns out. Episode 1 proved that. I've gone to see many bad movies based on exciting trailers. Conversely, I've missed many good movies because the trailer put me to sleep.
As for Episode 2, the most recent trailer looked great, and I, for one, will see the movie, based partially on the trailer, and partially on tradition. In the end, though, the true judge of a movie's merit is the movie itself, not the trailer.
What we need is a good Hammer's Slammers movie.
David Drake wrote some great, gritty sf warfare stories about a mercenary troop. They have all the nasty weaponry and collateral damage you could want without ignoring the devastating effects on soldiers and non-combatants alike. They would make some great movies, but knowing the Slammer's luck their movie would get screwed over like Starship Troopers...
Read a good book lately?
"When are we going to see films that really capture the true scale of the energy levels we're going to be flinging around?"
You mean like the Death Star?
Granted that I'm unfamiliar with Graves or Frazer (must look these guys up now :-D), I definitely have to conceed that the first three movies are far truer to core mythology and, hence, perhaps, their massive appeal and generally accepted beauty.
;-)
Indeed, the Phantom Menace did have that feel of being trapped within the mythology of the Eps IV through VI rather than continuing to freely explore mythology holistically.
That holistic notion seemed key to Campbell's work. So he inherited that perspective? Interesting.
Again, very insightful remark IMHO. Give kubla2000 his 5!
Hi All,
The real reason episode 1 was somewhat dissappointing was for one reason and one reason alone. The character who is irreplacable from episode 4, 5, and 6 is OF COURSE Chewbacca! His presence was missed indeed. Lucas tried to make another char like chewy (Jar Jar) but obviously it was a horrible idea. I'd be happy if another wookie was in episode 2 and 3. Don't you all agree with me? Chewy is so tyte and Lucas just can't replace the comedy and adventures Chewy brought to episode 4, 5, and 6. Hmmm.. maybe Lucas can get Chewy's dad in his next 2 movies. Then maybe there can be a new romance of how chewy's dad met chewy's mom... It won't exactly be Forbidden Love but oh well. lol.
I've been thinking about this for a long time too... I hadn't really though about him being genetic engineered though, although it's a good theory too... I was thinking, what if Palpatine is actually his father?
It makes so much sense... if the Emperor has "Skywalker blood", it would explain why he is so powerful in the Force, it would explain how he is able to seduce Anakin into ultimately joining him, the very same offer Anakin later makes to his own son, Luke. It would make a beautifully symmetrical story of family redemption, with Palpatine being evil, Luke being good, and Anakin is the "balance" in between. Lucas HAS planned out the overall story outline since the very beginning.
"Mind, as manifested by the capacity to make choices, is to some extent present in every electron." -Freeman Dyson
Ooooo.... CGI....
Yah, it's amazing what they can do with computers these days, but without an interesting story and quality acting and directing, you do not have a movie - You have a long stip of film with bland pictures.
Now, I could overlook your comment about CGI on a 40 screen and yada yada yada if you were talking about the latest movie mass produced by Hollywood (Resident Evil), but we're talking Star Wars here. Star Wars isn't about the CGI.... *ahem* Star Wars SHOULDN'T have been about the CGI, but looks like Lucas is just creaming himself again with what he can do with computers.
Moderators: I'm not trolling, I'm just pissed that Episode II is going to suck like Episode I did.
Furthermore, let us put it in perspective. First of all, the trailer is supposed to let you know what the movie is about, so that if people misinterpret it, then maybe that means the trailer is bad (or that they have enough of that producers deceit and manipulation for awhile to smell a skunk again [the pattern recognition])
Second, and this is probably the part that pertains to your comment on missing a movie because of being put to sleep by the trailer... EVERYONE is going to see this movie. It really doesn't matter what Lucass does with the movie, or if he advertises or produces trailers... people will watch it anyway. Word of mouth is only superceeded here by the hype of the media and fan sites.
I'm gonna watch it, you better believe it. Why? Because I have a very irrational and illogical hope that it will be good, that it will not be another "the Marketing Menace" and will actually have a well planned and implemented STORY! that does not rely on trickery (advertisement, sight/sound, etc) to make the movie but rather uses everything in its enourmous budget to augment and enhance the underlying STORY!!!!!!!!
No cute little boys that cute their way through a battle, no pathetic plot/character tie ins that make any sane person want to throw up (i.e. Anakin making C3P0... come on now?!)
I just hope that on that last comment... that there is not a repeat with EP II. Just imagine, they could show Han Solo as a baby meeting a younger (but still about 100+ years old) wookie on some random encounter. Perhaps Lando's dad can meet Han's dad (or the baby's could meet). Or any other silly, stupid attempt of a moron to forcefully introduce ties into the movie. Couple that with the fact that there would probably be very little 'legitimate' tie ins, as Tarkin and any of the main Rebel Generals (can't remember names off hand). Optionally, based on the popularity of the X-wing: Rogue Squadron series, and the character in general, it might be a good thing to tie in the Halcyon Jedi line into the fate of the conflict (not just mention, but a key role).
Who honestly cares anymore?
I feel about Star Wars the same way I feel about bands like Tool.
I respect their contribution to their art, but I don't like them I feel they're both overhyped to Hell.
Star Wars was a break through sci-fi film, but what the Hell was so special about it? The mediocre acting? The cheesy story? The laughable concept of it all? The predictability of everything?
And it just keeps getting progressively worse. I don't see how anyone who was a fan of the first three movies after seeing Episode 1 could still wet his pants at the sheer mention of "Attack of the Clones".
The only thing I love that Lucas did was create the THX standard. Nothing like the quality sound and picture you get with that.
I've come to one overwhelming conclusion. Star Wars is the most overhyped, mediocre movie series ever made that only people who have no outlet for creativity like.
How many Goddamn people need to dress up like Boba Fett during a sci fi convention, like a thousand? Contact me when you get a shred of creativity in your persona.
when you said "fags" were you refering to cigarets or you ignorance.
You thought you were special...Don't worry you were prgramed that way.
"What's that smell?"/"What an incredible smell you've discovered."
"It's not my fault!"
"What a hunk of junk!"/"You fly that thing? You're braver than I thought."
Everybody turning C-3PO up or otherwise shutting him up.
Star Wars has always been loaded with intense amounts of corny schtick. We should not be surprised by any occurrences of it in these latest movies. In fact, its part of why we like these movies so damned much - because they are both great (in the heroic\world myth\good vs. evil sense) and because they are so human. The difference, of course, is that it seems to me that the earlier group of actors were better able to pull it off.
Try the science non-fiction section, thanks. ;)
Anyway, that isn't what Star Wars is, and you can't tell me you were really expecting that in the trailer/up coming movie, can you? It would be cool, but not in the Star Wars universe.
proton != antielectron
Now we get to take bets on whether or not Episode Two will be even worse than Episode One. What an unmitigated piece of proverbial crap.
Is forgo the CGI,and just have Pamela Anderson dancing in a bikini with a Dr Suess hat and glow sticks for 2 hours.
> Try the science non-fiction section, thanks. ;)
:/
Star Wars is more a fantasy or fairy tale than science fiction (nothing wrong with that, just look at LoTR). Lucas seemed to be pushing the fairy tale part rather hard in episode 1 though
> Anyway, that isn't what Star Wars is, and you can't tell me you were really expecting that in the trailer/up coming movie, can you?
Nope, I was more suggesting that the Star Wars universe is a bit lame and wishing we could spend the millions on something new and less on the children's fantasy end of the spectrum.
Not that Star Wars doesn't have a ligitimate place in all of this too, but suspending disbelief and switching to watch-and-drool mode constantly gets tiring.
God I'm so glad the Male birthrate is going down (since 1990 your fascistdot punks)...soon all these internet postings will be nearly empty, much less annoying, and more intelligent and constructive, and much more positive...power to the women!
"watch-and-drool mode" is when Natalie Portman is in front of the camera. :P
proton != antielectron
But overall, he has the chance to make a coherent hole of the trilogy, which is something I don't feel Lucas has been able to do with the time he's had.
A hole eh? Well, i guess that's what they turned Isengaard into *G*
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
There are a number of reasons for the high opening draw which drops rather quickly. Back in the 80's or 70's, what were the chances of getting in to see a hot movie on the opening weekend if you didn't want to stand in line? Not very good. Today, the chances are pretty good to excellent, depending where you live. The difference? The number of screens showing the movie. In today's age of huge cinema multiplexes, you have far more showings of first-weekend movies than you did a few decades ago. Then, you might have had to wait a weekend or two to see a movie, but now there are so many screens that everyone can go on the opening weekend without too much trouble (especially for the theaters which sell tickets in advance online -- that's how I saw LotR on opening night). So now you can get the large push on one weekend, and then there is a huge dropoff since most of the people who wanted to see it already have. It's the special movies that people truly like that don't have the sharp dropoff. The huge opening weekend+dropoff model has actually been better for the movie companies, since word-of-mouth for a poor movie doesn't have enough time to do major damage by then. So yes, you might be able to blame moviemakers like Lucas for that behavior, but I'd say the largest reason for it is the greater number of screens.
From the looks of the trailer, it looks like they're 90% done with the game, I'm sure to be released the same weekend as the movie...
These two features are not mutually exclusive though. You can have personal interaction and much of the high-intensity impact the original poster was talking about. The problem is that it would be a very difficult stunt to pull off and would require a truly talented set of filmmakers to do it. It's not an impossible task, just one that would be difficult to do well.
Why not?
somehow blowing apart a ship hundreds of times larger by ramming into its bridge.
Don't you remember the Kamikaze's from WW2? Imagine if those little fighter planes were stocked with nuclear/anti-matter weapons/material designed to detonate on impact. Seems to me a smaller/more manueverable craft might be a better choice since immense firepower does not necessarily require immense size.
Looking 4ward to the trailer but even more 4 the movie
sdgscott
I don't know about you, but after seeing both the trailers in one go for the first time, I knew what movie I wanted to see. Star Wars, Episode 2 -may- be good, but the trailer is boring compared to LOTR.
:)
Ok, so this is slightly trollish, but I just had to say it!
And of course, they're led into battle by "General" Jar Jar, who surrenders at the first opportunity (To an army with orders to commit genocide, no less! "Wipe them out--All of them!" Surrender means certain death!).
Ok, it's been awhile since I've seen Episode I, but.. how was Jar Jar supposed to know that genocide was the goal of the robot army? We had the luxury of seeing the Sith Lord's orders to the evildoers, so we knew what was up, but none of the good guys were ever told about that. In fact, the main role of the Gungan army was simply to distract the forces on the planet (not destroy the entire army) while the robot base was taken out from orbit. Given all that, surrendering was not a stupid move from their side, since there was no reason for them to think that they would be killed after surrendering -- these were simply merchants in a trade route dispute with a small army of disablable robots. Committing genocide would be extremely uncharacteristic of them (from the good guys' perspective), especially considering how the Senate might have come down on them hard for such an action.
What the heck does "Maxi big da force" mean anyway
Heheh, I always thought he was saying "Maxi dig da force," though it's not like that's any less stupid. ;-)
The folks at apple or the folks at lucasfilms? Those morons blocked any referral to the link from /.
I dunno - there were some bits to Babylon 5 where there was definately some harsh high-end military mayhem going on:
The Centauri orbital bombardment of the Narn homeworld.
The Shadows' destruction of the Earth outpost.
I even forget the one planet the Shadows destroyed with the ground penetrating nukes.
Then there's Sheridan's destruction of Khazad Dum with the R/C spaceship loaded with nukes.
Unfortunately, in this case, the production budget wasn't up to portraying the kind of detail you're looking for.
These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
Actually, this is something which I see as mismanagement on the part of theaters - it costs a great deal to maintain the multi-screen multiplexes, and the growth in the number of movies shown on those screens (as well as the per-screen-profit) has not kept up with the number of screens, and in some areas, the number of theaters.
the result is that it's easier to see a movie "instantly"; however, this means that a movie _must_ make its money back "instantly"; there's very little leeway for allowing non-blockbuster films under this format, as a movie must be able to pay off its costs in an increasingly compressed time window.
this is exacerbated by the fact that the "hype machine" pushing blockbusters greatly increases the costs of these already costly (both to producers as well as distrbutors and theater-owners) films. It also incidentally lessens the public's appetite for a broader spectrum of film, as people tend to go to see what they've heard, seen, and read about. The days of going to the movies without knowing what's playing are long gone in this country.
Admittedly, my knowledge of this is limited to reports I have read in various business publications (Businessweek, et al.) but the overall pattern of increased theater building and disproportionately decreasing per-theater profits does indicate a pattern of overgrowth.
and personally, I wouldn't mind encountering sold-out theaters - ooh, i have to wait a day - or even buy a ticket in advance - in exchange for having 13 different movies on the 13 different screens at my local theater instead of 6. Heck, I'd settle for 9.
More importantly, I enjoy seeing movies in packed theaters. There's a real communal element that I miss when watching video; I find it depressing to see a "blockbuster" in a large theater with only 50 other people (because the other 200 are spread across 4 other screens).
Yes, BTW, I do enjoy blockbuster movies; I've got the hankering to see SWEP2; it's just that this isn't the _only_ type of movie I like to see, and that's the (rather submerged) point of what I was rambling about.
BTW, an implied (shoulda been explicit) idea behind the last post was that theaters have increased the number of screens they show movies on, as well as the number of screens they show a _single_ movie on, in response the the increasing demand for "blockbuster" movies. please pardon the omission.
-- Agthorr
It wasn't the standard starwars.com link. It was to the site at holonetnews.com which pretends to be a website in the Star Wars universe. Granted, this isn't the first film to have websites in its fictional universe, but I was surprised at some of the humor in it. A lot of web-specific humor like the "click the nuna" banner ad. Didn't expect it from Lucasfilm.
Why Tatooine you ask.... simply because its an excuse for the crew of Star Wars to go back to that place in Tunisia where they shoot all those desert scenes...
They ban external referrals, you fucking idiot. try loading the site without a referral before you make a fool of yourself next time, if thats not too complicated for you.
Go away mr|ms law student!
We need the bandwidth to get back to work. I'm sure you can find another mirror elsewhere.
Cheers!
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Watching EP1 last night on the Movie channel I had a rather interesting insight.
That Anakin is/was always the second Sith [candidate].
Anakin 'imaculate conception', hint's of genetic engineer, aka The Clone-Wars.
Yes, that's also what I suspect. I'll go a step further
Did they remember to remove that explosive that Anakin was implanted with? Perhaps Obi-Wan figures out how to set it off when Anakin joins the dark side
Looks like the whole movie is one giant mass of CG.
Bring back the old version of slashdot.
> So watch Babylon 5!
p es, and space battles consisting mostly of firing primary coloured blobs around at 30mph. Acceleration doesn't seem to effect anyone either, despite their lack of artificial gravity.
:)
Still has an overdose of aliens-with-generic-ridged-foreheads-and-stereoty
It does at least have a believable flight model and less inconsitant universe.
Anyway, isn't B5 dead? I don't see anyone pumping $200m into it
Maybe it's just me, but the video still looks like a soap opera or BBC production (all of which use video, to save money apparently) however many lines of resolution it has. And every single shot looks like it's either all CG or a composite with CG background- but the technology just isn't there yet: the difference between the CG lighting and the set lighting, as well as the color rendered by the computer and that captured in video are still to great to look more convincing (that the actor is really in the environment around them) than Command & Conquer or Myst video sequences.
Why does Lucas even bother with live actors at all when the results has the foreground characters looking so inconsistent with all the CG in the backgrounds? He could just scan in the bodies of all the actors and motion-capture their movements, and then render all at once with no compositing. Maybe that's what's in store for EP3...
Greetings,
I finally turned the AOTC mirror off. Only the people who are currently downloading the file (it's 1900 PST on Tuesday) have access to it.
Thanks for helping us stress test the lines; now we know for sure what our effective bandwidth is.
Cheers!
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Slashdot Sucks Posting a link that requires
Quick Time where the fuck am i supposed to get
a quick time plugin for galeon.
Ignorance is bliss!
but in Your case its orgasmic.
Most accurate post on the thread.
From that site, it seems worth a look. I heard somebody was working on a live action/cgi version a la Star Wars, now that could really be something spectacular.
i can't help it. love star wars, must nit pick.
Lucas's narratives tend to reflect a rather benevolently feudal/fascist view of the world, in which an elite group (Jedi) rules over/provides protection to the general classes
don't the Jedi serve the republic? doesn't a republic involve government by representation of the masses?
he has furthermore stated his preference for "benevolent dictator" style organization for his businesses (Lucasfilm/ILM/etc.), as well as indicating that his films are very specifically his own (versus "for the fans")...
i think an artist who is concerned about the interpretation of his work makes his art less valid. i don't always agree with lucas' artistic decisions (jar-jar), but he has the right as an artist to make them. picasso would have been less of an artist had he worried about how critics might percieve it.
as an artist, a person has something to say. if the artist listens too much to the audience, they stop saying anything and simply tell people what they want to hear. the desire to make movies based on what people want to hear is the thing that makes so many movies bad. they become uninspired and uninspiring.
you probably shouldn't have read this.