which came first... the question is the relation between the two.
The joy of violence in games is no different than the joy of say, racism in a racist game. It is better to have it contained in a game, but it's not great to celebrate something if you supposedly find it an anti-value.
Violent media and "fun" are symptoms of violent culture... mere symptoms, but also quite related. I find the run to apologize and defend violence in games intellectually funny and telling. If you enjoy pretending to do something sick... that's a bit sick, yes we are all a bit sick in some way or other, but that's not a defense OF SICKNESS. It's more like... well, no one is perfect.
But defending violence is a bad idea... better to enjoy what you enjoy and when thinking about it... think about it realistically. Don't try to pretend a totally non-violent person loves violence because they enjoy a violent game that "doesn't count"... it counts... if someone wants to think of themselves as non-violent... they they won't enjoy violent fantasy.
the reason this is true, and important, is because the brain works on a metaphorical basis, a modelling basis, everything we know is a model for everything else we know. Spending time in violent games enhances and reinforces violent metaphors.
Do these metaphors matter? Uh, of course. We have WAR on Drugs and WAR on Poverty as "programs" in our political history because the people in charge think of everything in terms of WAR. Use of war like metaphors leads to a particular way of thinking about a problem. There are other ways to imagine solving the problems of drugs and poverty besides war, but those ways become cut off when we widely adopt a war metaphor.
So it is with games where we engage in problem solving... the puzzles in a "violent" game are really just abstractions... they are cast in a violent framework, and we apply violent solutions drawn from the violent metaphors use. This conditions us to use similar solutions. Note, I'm not saying it would make you violent in the real world, that the solution would be violent. The "violent" solution in the video game is also not REALLY violent, it seems violent, because of the metaphor. But so too we can use that metaphor then to think about real world problems... not that we would do violence, but we would use violence as the source metaphor and think of real world problems AS THOUGH they were part of a violent context... just as we use "War" to think of the situation of Poverty.
The more conscious you are about these sorts of thought processes, the more immune you are to serious mistakes of reason due to your conditioning (basically, by broadening your conditioning).
reality is biased and it need to be made more fair minded.
so what reality wants there to be a correlation, what of us, what if we don't WANT global climate to be linked to CO2 levels?
btw, it occurs to me that hurricanes are the WMD of the so called "global climate" (is there really even a global climate?)... and we must attack the global climate before it attacks us, we must not relent until the global climate is a flourishing democracy. I suspect that the climate will throw flowers at our feet, as well as cars, cows and our neighbor's roofs, as well a drive a piece of straw through a telephone pole.
I've just finished a new chapter in the Bible by God. I worked from notes God had almost created on the 4'th day of creation but got distracted creating the slugs. It's The Book Of Slugs and goes in the Old Testament.
actually, I do believe they have a kind of sentience, but we cannot judge them that way, we don't have access to punishing that sentience, for example, in law. On OUR SCALE, I think it resolves to groups of individuals. You cannot assume a corporation has "learned" something, or trust it's learned a lesson in particular because of this reason, and the contant turnover.
The sentience you DO see is one that comes from what MBAs are taught, they go to executive MBA school and play a particular game, and that game is not to learn, but to constantly press luck and push advantages, petty or otherwise.
But actually, I do think groups can be sentient and usually are on some level, though we don't have the definitions in our language to really see them as individuals anyway.
You youngest ones perhaps cannot understand how foul and sad for the world it is to have seen HP go... an engineers company, which believed in quality and standing by employees, MBAed into a fucking not plastic company... I still like my HP printer, hell I buy lots of stuff from those sorts of companies... HOWEVER, it's still true. Weep a tear for the HP that used to be because it wasn't charity what HP did, the HP-way WORKED, it's just not something cookie cutter business grads could fucking understand, if they're not pissing off employees, having power trips, and selling out brand loyalty for temporary profit, they don't know what to do.
Some will tell you it wasn't just Fiorina, it was destined anyway, but Fiorina put the nails in the coffin.
I can't imagine it's gotten better after she's gone, the job was done so well, (espc mergin with Compaq)... but if there are HP employees to tell different, I wouldn't mind good news. I miss the hold HP.
"Is this the start of better collaboration, or just a sign the Microsoft has learned its lesson from the antitrust battles?"
Corporations are not persons.
That's a metaphor.
There is no difference between "start of better" behavior and "just a sign that" MS has learned from it's battles.
It's good to remember that Corporations are really groups of people, they have no moral body or cognitive center which is the "real" way they think as opposed to how they behave. They are their behavior.
not very long in to find this is the same "Java really is (well, can be) faster" article I've been reading the past 10 years.
lord
I don't like java. Don't try to make me. I'm sick of it. And I don't want to marry your sister, yes, she's very nice, I'm sure, and no way is she as stupid as I think she is, we just don't connect, you understand... I know she has a PhD, but I'm tired of you telling me I'm stupid not to be attracted to her.
Besides, you two are already married and that's not even legal in my state, let alone polygamy.
I was a programmer at an online game network in the 90s and we had people that would say the service wasn't working.
Many people, even those WITH modems, didn't understand you had to plug the phone line in.
So much of the computer worked as if by magic to them, they just didn't ever make a list of stuff they might have to do to get things to work... who knew how the modem worked?
it's amazing how little people understand about the directory system, time and again, even with non-novices when I ask them they don't really get it. Searching around the files system is not in their congitive structure...
once my aunt's friends had lost all their business files (oh no!) in quickbooks.
when I "recovered" it they really really were excited, they wanted to pay me, I was a GENIUS!!!
They had installed a tutorial that had changed the default directory in the file open dialog... their data was merely in the original directory... um, not the tutorial's directory.
which is the reintroduction of a messaging paradigm! in which case, why use function call semantics?
ah... this is the problem with the whole RPC model, it's really just a good fit when you really do think the functionality is going to be local, and you want to be able to distribute it somewhere not local, but nearby on the network. Not a bad thing, but limited because if there is a lot of communication, you need to use message passing metaphors to properly design it -as- a communication system.
anyone that thinks Microsoft is the result of "just good engineering decisions" is not facing reality.
It's easy to think that when you sit in a corner and paint, "there is no room, only this corner, and it made perfect sense to paint it blue, the blue paint was right here, it has nothing to do with the rest of the room being blue... I'm not sure there even is "the rest of the room"
is not bundling a browser with an OS, that has to happen.
The problem was more when someone like HP wanted to bundle a different browser than IE, or even in addition, and MS wouldn't have that sort of thing.
The problem was not what they bundled to the end user but the fact that we don't buy computers from Microsoft, we buy them from "OEMs" so why in the hell can't the OEMs bundle stuff regardless of Microsoft's needs.
That's where the monopoly leveraging came in.
btw, since I mention HP, and this company used to be a dream company for engineering, let me just add, FUCK YOU CARLY FIORINA.
to make a blocking function call that actually sends a message.
you need to queue messages in and out.
It's neat if you have something that is supposed to work like a library and sneakilly is on another host... like a GNOME plugin... but to just have it in general, a nightmare to debug.
Slashdot Mirror
this thing, "article"... sounds strange and possibly terrifying.
which came first... the question is the relation between the two.
The joy of violence in games is no different than the joy of say, racism in a racist game. It is better to have it contained in a game, but it's not great to celebrate something if you supposedly find it an anti-value.
Violent media and "fun" are symptoms of violent culture... mere symptoms, but also quite related. I find the run to apologize and defend violence in games intellectually funny and telling. If you enjoy pretending to do something sick... that's a bit sick, yes we are all a bit sick in some way or other, but that's not a defense OF SICKNESS. It's more like... well, no one is perfect.
But defending violence is a bad idea... better to enjoy what you enjoy and when thinking about it... think about it realistically. Don't try to pretend a totally non-violent person loves violence because they enjoy a violent game that "doesn't count"... it counts... if someone wants to think of themselves as non-violent... they they won't enjoy violent fantasy.
the reason this is true, and important, is because the brain works on a metaphorical basis, a modelling basis, everything we know is a model for everything else we know. Spending time in violent games enhances and reinforces violent metaphors.
Do these metaphors matter? Uh, of course. We have WAR on Drugs and WAR on Poverty as "programs" in our political history because the people in charge think of everything in terms of WAR. Use of war like metaphors leads to a particular way of thinking about a problem. There are other ways to imagine solving the problems of drugs and poverty besides war, but those ways become cut off when we widely adopt a war metaphor.
So it is with games where we engage in problem solving... the puzzles in a "violent" game are really just abstractions... they are cast in a violent framework, and we apply violent solutions drawn from the violent metaphors use. This conditions us to use similar solutions. Note, I'm not saying it would make you violent in the real world, that the solution would be violent. The "violent" solution in the video game is also not REALLY violent, it seems violent, because of the metaphor. But so too we can use that metaphor then to think about real world problems... not that we would do violence, but we would use violence as the source metaphor and think of real world problems AS THOUGH they were part of a violent context... just as we use "War" to think of the situation of Poverty.
The more conscious you are about these sorts of thought processes, the more immune you are to serious mistakes of reason due to your conditioning (basically, by broadening your conditioning).
.... wordprocessor and email program with a regular expression!
PS: not really but wouldn't that be feckin' awesome! it was emacs... if I really had done it I mean.
funny you should say that... it was really Elephants... but there has been a lot of confusion about that.
the great things about wikipedia is no truthiness.
that fucking liberal bias.
reality is biased and it need to be made more fair minded.
so what reality wants there to be a correlation, what of us, what if we don't WANT global climate to be linked to CO2 levels?
btw, it occurs to me that hurricanes are the WMD of the so called "global climate" (is there really even a global climate?)... and we must attack the global climate before it attacks us, we must not relent until the global climate is a flourishing democracy. I suspect that the climate will throw flowers at our feet, as well as cars, cows and our neighbor's roofs, as well a drive a piece of straw through a telephone pole.
that's why managers/executive that can fake that sincere regret thing get the big bucks.
I've just finished a new chapter in the Bible by God. I worked from notes God had almost created on the 4'th day of creation but got distracted creating the slugs. It's The Book Of Slugs and goes in the Old Testament.
I kept God's original style rather well.
actually, I do believe they have a kind of sentience, but we cannot judge them that way, we don't have access to punishing that sentience, for example, in law. On OUR SCALE, I think it resolves to groups of individuals. You cannot assume a corporation has "learned" something, or trust it's learned a lesson in particular because of this reason, and the contant turnover.
The sentience you DO see is one that comes from what MBAs are taught, they go to executive MBA school and play a particular game, and that game is not to learn, but to constantly press luck and push advantages, petty or otherwise.
But actually, I do think groups can be sentient and usually are on some level, though we don't have the definitions in our language to really see them as individuals anyway.
I hate you Carly Fiorina.
... I still like my HP printer, hell I buy lots of stuff from those sorts of companies... HOWEVER, it's still true. Weep a tear for the HP that used to be because it wasn't charity what HP did, the HP-way WORKED, it's just not something cookie cutter business grads could fucking understand, if they're not pissing off employees, having power trips, and selling out brand loyalty for temporary profit, they don't know what to do.
You youngest ones perhaps cannot understand how foul and sad for the world it is to have seen HP go... an engineers company, which believed in quality and standing by employees, MBAed into a fucking not plastic company
Some will tell you it wasn't just Fiorina, it was destined anyway, but Fiorina put the nails in the coffin.
I can't imagine it's gotten better after she's gone, the job was done so well, (espc mergin with Compaq)... but if there are HP employees to tell different, I wouldn't mind good news. I miss the hold HP.
"Is this the start of better collaboration, or just a sign the Microsoft has learned its lesson from the antitrust battles?"
Corporations are not persons.
That's a metaphor.
There is no difference between "start of better" behavior and "just a sign that" MS has learned from it's battles.
It's good to remember that Corporations are really groups of people, they have no moral body or cognitive center which is the "real" way they think as opposed to how they behave. They are their behavior.
not very long in to find this is the same "Java really is (well, can be) faster" article I've been reading the past 10 years.
lord
I don't like java. Don't try to make me. I'm sick of it. And I don't want to marry your sister, yes, she's very nice, I'm sure, and no way is she as stupid as I think she is, we just don't connect, you understand... I know she has a PhD, but I'm tired of you telling me I'm stupid not to be attracted to her.
Besides, you two are already married and that's not even legal in my state, let alone polygamy.
I was a programmer at an online game network in the 90s and we had people that would say the service wasn't working.
Many people, even those WITH modems, didn't understand you had to plug the phone line in.
So much of the computer worked as if by magic to them, they just didn't ever make a list of stuff they might have to do to get things to work... who knew how the modem worked?
My other post in here is true too.
it's amazing how little people understand about the directory system, time and again, even with non-novices when I ask them they don't really get it. Searching around the files system is not in their congitive structure...
once my aunt's friends had lost all their business files (oh no!) in quickbooks.
when I "recovered" it they really really were excited, they wanted to pay me, I was a GENIUS!!!
They had installed a tutorial that had changed the default directory in the file open dialog... their data was merely in the original directory... um, not the tutorial's directory.
so Ubuntu is expected to KILL them?!!?
which is the reintroduction of a messaging paradigm! in which case, why use function call semantics?
ah... this is the problem with the whole RPC model, it's really just a good fit when you really do think the functionality is going to be local, and you want to be able to distribute it somewhere not local, but nearby on the network. Not a bad thing, but limited because if there is a lot of communication, you need to use message passing metaphors to properly design it -as- a communication system.
anyone that thinks Microsoft is the result of "just good engineering decisions" is not facing reality.
It's easy to think that when you sit in a corner and paint, "there is no room, only this corner, and it made perfect sense to paint it blue, the blue paint was right here, it has nothing to do with the rest of the room being blue... I'm not sure there even is "the rest of the room"
if you speak rather losely.
Laura Bush did too.
Pointless to fight politics this way.
is not bundling a browser with an OS, that has to happen.
The problem was more when someone like HP wanted to bundle a different browser than IE, or even in addition, and MS wouldn't have that sort of thing.
The problem was not what they bundled to the end user but the fact that we don't buy computers from Microsoft, we buy them from "OEMs" so why in the hell can't the OEMs bundle stuff regardless of Microsoft's needs.
That's where the monopoly leveraging came in.
btw, since I mention HP, and this company used to be a dream company for engineering, let me just add, FUCK YOU CARLY FIORINA.
to make a blocking function call that actually sends a message.
you need to queue messages in and out.
It's neat if you have something that is supposed to work like a library and sneakilly is on another host... like a GNOME plugin... but to just have it in general, a nightmare to debug.
blocking is teh evil whatever you think.
juggle instead!
... until I asked a ninja.
Now all is clear.
It's like asking the Hot Dog On A Stick Girl To Pay AT&T to let you watch her make lemonade, which is just wrong.
It's also true that they are trying to tell you watching Robin William's cousin squeeze bacon juice is "the same thing"...
ask a ninja about net neutrality
google counts mean shit, I hate that.
That many hits on shot in the face... well, that's far too many to be related to, hold on,
I just googled "video game" and got 637,000,000 hits.
So it is possible after all?
Plus, we've just proved tea.
well done us.
this list is very ill informed, many of these products were not the worst, even when they had some of the worst bugs, or notable bugs.
ooooh, I didn't know about the contagion.
I never had a problem with my zip drive after years of use... but that IS bad.
The sony zip drive?
///?
Realplayer?
pathetic.
where is the Apple
Oh yeah, they put MS Bob on, a fucking baby knows that one.
This is the most ill informed list... done by people that are NOT AWARE of the true losers except a couple like Bob.
dBase IV?
and you know I got my hopes up.
"still-as-yet-publicly-unannounced"
it's been publicly unnanounced, how the fuck do you pull that off?
I need that skill.