I don't think so. Perhaps you are right. But I have seen voice recognition ever since a Texas Instruments PC in the early mid eighties. Those P60s were not able to reliably recognize a multitude of voices and accents. They have always shown trouble. The voice recognition has now gotten fairly good. However, those systems don't have to deal with people altering their voice. This system will have to deal with this, and it's very difficult to do. It's far from trivial even in the case of textual obscenity.
the best sytem I've seen is a complain system where if you get complaints, your voice gets turned off. Democratic vigilantism.
it occurs to me if no one had reinvented the wheel, your harley would be riding on wooden wheels... or wait, maybe on big cylindrical stones... wait, on second thought, make that your Vespa.
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I was thinking the same thing but actually, the theme is "science that makes you laugh" and that's a lot more fun than dealing with a bunch of frauds. For example, the guy that won by studying coconuts... well... that's not that funny when you live around coconuts... more people die from coconut falls than shark bites in Hawaii, for example! But they know this. It's strikes their funny bone because they live in a place where coconut is a flavour, and the coconut guy understands that and doesn't feel all that ridiculed. Most of the research is really quite valid in that way. That's what keeps the humor in good fun.
the light shoots underground to a point underneath Keck II, where they are joined. Keck also is planning a set of 4m outriggers to increase the light collection and hopefully be able to directly image extrasolar planets(!) which is really cool because then they can look at the spectra for organic chemicals (well, probably not Keck, but in principle).
of course there is life on pluto...
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fleas!!!
hahhahahahahaoaoalalrglglgphp!
time's like these I'm glad karma is no longer numeric.
you are so right. I cannot believe how great this program is. Not only beautiful and relatively accurate... but accurate in real time... I mean... check out your location on earth, at sunset, your location is spinning around from the light to dark side. I checked my position at midnight, yup, far side of the earth.
This program is about to take up a huge amount of my time... it's the most awesome thing. I too just heard of it, here at slashdot, in the "Window OSS" story. Um, I might as well mention Stellarium again, since it's also a beautiful astronomical program, GPLed and OPENGL-based. (It simulates accurate skies like Starry Nights (a commercial program) only more beatiffully, GPLed, and, like Celestia, on Windows and Unix both.
Young programmers are shaming me! I've wanted to make these programs for years and didn't have "time". Or I used to think it was time keeping me from them. In a way it's pathetic how excited I am about this programs!
Oh, by the way, as for education... my 8 year old home-schooled daughter is in love with this program... it's fantastic to see her use it (it's hard to find things when it's accurate scale, try finding the ISS, it's practically on the surface!). Of course, she's very into astronomy, and knows the planets in order and all that, so she was primed to appreciate the beauty of this.
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this is ridiculous!!!! How inflamatory.
It's KSFO that is the hate speech radio owned by Disney, making the fairly conservative KGO seem moderate in comparison.
And the fun part is to hear the KSFO fans bad mouthing KGO and disney... not realizing that KSFO and KGO share locations, owners, and a desire to cover all the bases for clean ownership of the talk radio market in Northern California and beyond.
You can't own the whole market, in this case, with one offering, because it doesn't appeal to the biases of all listeners. But get two "opposites" going and there you have it.
Does it make sense? Owning a Rush Affiliate and a Bernie Ward Outlet? Um... does it make sense to use two ropes to steer a horse?
PS: just joking about the inflammatory part, in case that wasn't obvious... you were right on except I think you got your call letters reversed.
I agree, but also nitpick as follows. 1. The creators didn't name it, the Marketing Department did. 2. What something is named is not identical to what it is.
during the Win95 Beta typeing version (or is the command ver) in at the command prompt in win85 showed that what was running was MS DOS 7.0.
That's what it was. That microsoft called it something different, in order to support an illegal leveraging to destroy the DOS compatibles (like DRDOS) doesn't mean it WAS what they called it. Or rather, that what they called it made it something different. That is. Even bill gates admited when XP came out... Win95 was a version of DOS!
it is most godlike of you to mention this incredible program that I had not ever used before! I cannot believe how cool this is. Especially since I just a week or two ago went searching for such a program (much lower standards had I) and didn't find it. And the contributer sites with all kinds of spacecraft and moon models etc. etc. I have been wanting this program for years!
btw, in my search I did find another very cool program which renders the sky accurately and beautifully, which is also quite impressive. You might like it.
you are correct. But this is what commercial enterprises will do for Linux. They get everything that has to be done, and then some, and are actually free to focus just on these sorts of things... items they need to provide/tell their customers with/about.
(2) it's begging to be easily proxied around and therefore be pointless
(3) it's the same as asking the phone company to listen to all phone calls so they can sever the connection based on your conversation
I am 100% for getting tough on these criminals. I say form an international task force ready to go anywhere in the world. They have a server sitting on the net... how hard is that to find?!?!? Go there. Arrest them.
Sun came in making Workstations, which were cheap (~10K$) for the market they aimed for, which was huge servers with thin terminals.
They understand the cheaper end better than the expensive end, although this is not how poeple think of them relative to PCs, it's precicely where they were in the big-computer world. I think it makes perfect sense for Sun to do this.
The main reason is b/c right now everyone that buys a Sun also buys a PC... either to access the sun or to use Windows Office. Sun needs to stop that leak. They cannot be sending all their customers to Microsoft.
Also, many companies in love with Sun love the support and would just as soon have desktops guarenteed and covered by Sun. It won't hurt Sun Support to have desktops that can escape the engineering department.
Somebody proposed that this will allow IBM and Intel to triangulate on Sun... possibly, but that's happening anyway.
Somebody said Novel got MS obsessed and look what happened to them... no... Novel just realized they were a target before anyone else knew they were, and reacted accordingly. Of course... I do hope that Sun can execute better. But I think they can. Novel had long been riding it's past success, but Sun actually still had a leading Unix brand for good reason.
if he did by photoshop later, when he could, is it all OK?
btw, if Photoshop was $2000 or $500, it makes no difference to his argument.
If hammers and saws could be copied for free I'd advocate letting students do that as well.
AND: let me say, none of this applies to the guy getting interviewed........that kind of activity is just like trading baseball cards... for which you ought to pay.
Teachers can photocopy parts of book and share them with students because there is "educational fair use".
In the case of software... I had a professional level of experience with tools partially because of piracy of "utilities". I was not into pirating games. I might have been able to afford an assembler, but I wouldn't have even known what it was if I hadn't gotten one for free.
I wasn't into pirating games, but what we called "utilities". And we had an ethic of don't sell/profit. That we saw as ripping off the authors.
Now, I also bought software (games), but by the time I went to school I was able to work my way through college as a programmer, and this was because of experience with a lot of development tools that I would not even have heard of.
Yes, I'm generalizing that to society, which may be sloppy thinking, but I don't know how else I could have gotten those skills. I now can afford to buy more software, I've paid more taxes, I've contributed to society to some degree with my profession... there was social benefit for me having access to those tools. I didn't have to figure out the best tool and buy just it, I was able to try all tools, and judge the best that way.
I'd be a hypocrite to not admit how key this was to my own learning process and my subsequent life. I always said then, when I can afford software I will buy it. And now I do.
I'm suggesting that we provide a means where kids can have this free rein to explore and truly understand what's out there. I know there are glitches in my currently undeveloped suggestion, namely, Software For Kids (if they don't have to pay for it, why will people make it?) and also the fact that business' might find a way to burn the ideals (like fire 18 year old "installers" and hire 16 year old ones). Such loopholes and issues could be addressed, however.
Also, I'm not against copy protection. Find, make it hard to copy, maybe kids will pay because they can't get it otherwise, but if they can get it, let them.
Why should adults not have free software? OK, maybe it shouldn't be just kids, it should be students. The main thing I would think is that you can't use it to make money or... or.... OK, MAYBE my idea is full of gotchas, but at least perhaps you see what my idea is getting at now?
I don't think so. Perhaps you are right. But I have seen voice recognition ever since a Texas Instruments PC in the early mid eighties. Those P60s were not able to reliably recognize a multitude of voices and accents. They have always shown trouble. The voice recognition has now gotten fairly good. However, those systems don't have to deal with people altering their voice. This system will have to deal with this, and it's very difficult to do. It's far from trivial even in the case of textual obscenity.
the best sytem I've seen is a complain system where if you get complaints, your voice gets turned off. Democratic vigilantism.
prove it... that's not believable to me.
it occurs to me if no one had reinvented the wheel, your harley would be riding on wooden wheels... or wait, maybe on big cylindrical stones... wait, on second thought, make that your Vespa.
and memories too....
your handle... brings back fond memoried.
I was thinking the same thing but actually, the theme is "science that makes you laugh" and that's a lot more fun than dealing with a bunch of frauds. For example, the guy that won by studying coconuts... well... that's not that funny when you live around coconuts... more people die from coconut falls than shark bites in Hawaii, for example! But they know this. It's strikes their funny bone because they live in a place where coconut is a flavour, and the coconut guy understands that and doesn't feel all that ridiculed. Most of the research is really quite valid in that way. That's what keeps the humor in good fun.
JPL/Linux
the light shoots underground to a point underneath Keck II, where they are joined. Keck also is planning a set of 4m outriggers to increase the light collection and hopefully be able to directly image extrasolar planets(!) which is really cool because then they can look at the spectra for organic chemicals (well, probably not Keck, but in principle).
fleas!!!
hahhahahahahaoaoalalrglglgphp!
time's like these I'm glad karma is no longer numeric.
Ok now, it's good to plagerize Eddie Izzard... but don't forget to mention him!
Go Eddie!!!
"What's that behind your back...?" "uhhh, just the falklands--- need the falklands... for, eh, strategic sheep purposes."
right click drag.
you are so right. I cannot believe how great this program is. Not only beautiful and relatively accurate... but accurate in real time... I mean... check out your location on earth, at sunset, your location is spinning around from the light to dark side. I checked my position at midnight, yup, far side of the earth.
This program is about to take up a huge amount of my time... it's the most awesome thing. I too just heard of it, here at slashdot, in the "Window OSS" story. Um, I might as well mention Stellarium again, since it's also a beautiful astronomical program, GPLed and OPENGL-based. (It simulates accurate skies like Starry Nights (a commercial program) only more beatiffully, GPLed, and, like Celestia, on Windows and Unix both.
Young programmers are shaming me! I've wanted to make these programs for years and didn't have "time". Or I used to think it was time keeping me from them. In a way it's pathetic how excited I am about this programs!
Oh, by the way, as for education... my 8 year old home-schooled daughter is in love with this program... it's fantastic to see her use it (it's hard to find things when it's accurate scale, try finding the ISS, it's practically on the surface!). Of course, she's very into astronomy, and knows the planets in order and all that, so she was primed to appreciate the beauty of this.
this is ridiculous!!!! How inflamatory.
It's KSFO that is the hate speech radio owned by Disney, making the fairly conservative KGO seem moderate in comparison.
And the fun part is to hear the KSFO fans bad mouthing KGO and disney... not realizing that KSFO and KGO share locations, owners, and a desire to cover all the bases for clean ownership of the talk radio market in Northern California and beyond.
You can't own the whole market, in this case, with one offering, because it doesn't appeal to the biases of all listeners. But get two "opposites" going and there you have it.
Does it make sense? Owning a Rush Affiliate and a Bernie Ward Outlet? Um... does it make sense to use two ropes to steer a horse?
PS: just joking about the inflammatory part, in case that wasn't obvious... you were right on except I think you got your call letters reversed.
I agree, but also nitpick as follows. 1. The creators didn't name it, the Marketing Department did. 2. What something is named is not identical to what it is.
when do I hub?
during the Win95 Beta typeing version (or is the command ver) in at the command prompt in win85 showed that what was running was MS DOS 7.0.
That's what it was. That microsoft called it something different, in order to support an illegal leveraging to destroy the DOS compatibles (like DRDOS) doesn't mean it WAS what they called it. Or rather, that what they called it made it something different. That is. Even bill gates admited when XP came out... Win95 was a version of DOS!
... but there was no NT in the early days!
oh wait, I'm old (over thirty), nevermind.
it is most godlike of you to mention this incredible program that I had not ever used before! I cannot believe how cool this is. Especially since I just a week or two ago went searching for such a program (much lower standards had I) and didn't find it. And the contributer sites with all kinds of spacecraft and moon models etc. etc. I have been wanting this program for years!
btw, in my search I did find another very cool program which renders the sky accurately and beautifully, which is also quite impressive. You might like it.
you are correct. But this is what commercial enterprises will do for Linux. They get everything that has to be done, and then some, and are actually free to focus just on these sorts of things... items they need to provide/tell their customers with/about.
um, because I want my corvair, dammit, and I don't care what speeds it's safe at!
just a little joke at Nader's expense... your example is flawless.
It's easy:
(1) depends on how many sites
(2) it's begging to be easily proxied around and therefore be pointless
(3) it's the same as asking the phone company to listen to all phone calls so they can sever the connection based on your conversation
I am 100% for getting tough on these criminals. I say form an international task force ready to go anywhere in the world. They have a server sitting on the net... how hard is that to find?!?!? Go there. Arrest them.
> It's like rock climbing in an earthquake.
now that sounds like a sport..!
nothing would keep Sun out of the crosshairs.
Sun came in making Workstations, which were cheap (~10K$) for the market they aimed for, which was huge servers with thin terminals.
They understand the cheaper end better than the expensive end, although this is not how poeple think of them relative to PCs, it's precicely where they were in the big-computer world. I think it makes perfect sense for Sun to do this.
The main reason is b/c right now everyone that buys a Sun also buys a PC... either to access the sun or to use Windows Office. Sun needs to stop that leak. They cannot be sending all their customers to Microsoft.
Also, many companies in love with Sun love the support and would just as soon have desktops guarenteed and covered by Sun. It won't hurt Sun Support to have desktops that can escape the engineering department.
Somebody proposed that this will allow IBM and Intel to triangulate on Sun... possibly, but that's happening anyway.
Somebody said Novel got MS obsessed and look what happened to them... no... Novel just realized they were a target before anyone else knew they were, and reacted accordingly. Of course... I do hope that Sun can execute better. But I think they can. Novel had long been riding it's past success, but Sun actually still had a leading Unix brand for good reason.
if he did by photoshop later, when he could, is it all OK?
btw, if Photoshop was $2000 or $500, it makes no difference to his argument.
If hammers and saws could be copied for free I'd advocate letting students do that as well.
AND: let me say, none of this applies to the guy getting interviewed........that kind of activity is just like trading baseball cards... for which you ought to pay.
Teachers can photocopy parts of book and share them with students because there is "educational fair use".
In the case of software... I had a professional level of experience with tools partially because of piracy of "utilities". I was not into pirating games. I might have been able to afford an assembler, but I wouldn't have even known what it was if I hadn't gotten one for free.
I wasn't into pirating games, but what we called "utilities". And we had an ethic of don't sell/profit. That we saw as ripping off the authors.
Now, I also bought software (games), but by the time I went to school I was able to work my way through college as a programmer, and this was because of experience with a lot of development tools that I would not even have heard of.
Yes, I'm generalizing that to society, which may be sloppy thinking, but I don't know how else I could have gotten those skills. I now can afford to buy more software, I've paid more taxes, I've contributed to society to some degree with my profession... there was social benefit for me having access to those tools. I didn't have to figure out the best tool and buy just it, I was able to try all tools, and judge the best that way.
I'd be a hypocrite to not admit how key this was to my own learning process and my subsequent life. I always said then, when I can afford software I will buy it. And now I do.
I'm suggesting that we provide a means where kids can have this free rein to explore and truly understand what's out there. I know there are glitches in my currently undeveloped suggestion, namely, Software For Kids (if they don't have to pay for it, why will people make it?) and also the fact that business' might find a way to burn the ideals (like fire 18 year old "installers" and hire 16 year old ones). Such loopholes and issues could be addressed, however.
Also, I'm not against copy protection. Find, make it hard to copy, maybe kids will pay because they can't get it otherwise, but if they can get it, let them.
Why should adults not have free software? OK, maybe it shouldn't be just kids, it should be students. The main thing I would think is that you can't use it to make money or... or.... OK, MAYBE my idea is full of gotchas, but at least perhaps you see what my idea is getting at now?