I think it should be legal to copy commercial software for personal use if you are under 18, as long as you do not make a profit or use it to generate profit for someone else.
Why? The educational value. How else would a 15 year old become coversant in tools that are certainly not justifiable purchases for them... like professional development environments etc.
Yes, games break my ideal. But it's just the seed of an idea.
If you want to rely on tools, just rely on one that can take you quickly to the definition of the variable! There are many commercial and open tools that can do this, such as SlickEdit, MSVC, cscope, even generating doxygen output is sufficient.
being able to replace objects without touching a bunch of code is part of the point of C++!
but if you avoid the GPL then you are not granted extra rights beyond copyright, and therefore you cannot distribute the code. The difference, by default, you have less rights than the GPL gives you. With EULAs you have, by default, MORE rights than after you agree to the EULA. The EULA is an agreement to give up some rights you would otherwise have (like the right to put the software on whatever machine you choose to use).
So yes, avoid the GPL, and also avoid it's extra freedoms. So your trap failed noble opponent!
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ug, lameness filter opposed me presenting my point in authentic form....
The romans used all capitals, no spaces or punctuation at all, if it was good enough for them... who are you to defy the Holy Roman Empire.
hmmm, I think it's lamer this way, the other way was much more funny.... better add this,:)
accusations of election fraud happen every election. Of course, it's difficult to argue any given case because if it works, the cheater is in office, and if it failed, no one cares. However, these accusations come from all sides, all parties, all philosophies and there are many individual cases which are tried and withstand airing in the courtroom.
I hate it when people say "there are a limited number of plots", imo, it's nonsense. There are only so many plots that taste like sugar, play to preconcieved notions and which thereby are likely to be hockable to the mass public of media consumers --- there are a limitted number of boring and pointless plots!
All the plots were explored by Shakespeare... by the Bible, I've heard it all... PROVE IT!
limited imagination, if you ask me... which you didn't. For example... Stanislaus Lem's plots... try to map them to HG Wells and find yourself making quite a big stretch.
burning karma means losing it because his post was offtopic.
however, reverse psychology it is because it's generally an Immutible Law that slashdot moderators want to prove every post wrong. Saying you will lose karma works kind of like the Jedi Mind Trick. Of course, I will lose karma for saying this.
all the battles in philosophy, by which I mean not the academic ones but the real battles that go on within cultures and when they collide, are all stored, I believe, in the terms and phrases of language.
I think it's fair to say that philosophers mostly mine language for knowledge, as special kinds of philologists. As for the additional part, the creativity, it's mostly aimed in the direction of creating new words and new understandings for them, and is therefore just another part of the same process.
I hope to talk with you about this more in the future at some point.
I think that it also is a specific kind of power. Supported credibly if not completely enough by it's use as shown in in this document which I found when googling for a little support for my hypothesis. What kind of power it is colors it's relationship with the other word part. I believe it's an oppressive sort of power, essentially the military power required to win and the spoils that are the reward (power over the people, to tax and control their economy. Taken this way Democracy has a different meaning, probably justifiable but incomplete. The people should have power over the government but should they take the position with regard to it that historically military governments do? Similarly if people have power of the "government", this is "govern" the correct root for that word? If the intent is to free the people to govern themselves, and free the economy, "democracy" is possibly the wrong approach.
Philosophy is stored in these terms. Breaking these terms open, or comparatively considering the distinctions between irony and coincidence, ironic coincidence or literal metaphors. I post this to you because of your clear like for making closer study of terms (I paused to grok your distinction between irony and coincidence), and because you also have a pragmatists view of language, a relatively rare combination. It allows one to look for the meaning of words as a philosophist rather than as a grammarian, trying to impose as RULES what are merely interesting philological patterns.
... and it's also impossible to cross the road, because before you can cross the road, you must cross half the road. And before you can cross the remaining half, you will cross half the remaining half. Always leaving some non-zero distance between you and the other side of the road.
yes, and it took them years to roll out some features in the compilers (templates were implimented poorly at first).
I think that C++ shares with C it's pragmatist approach. It's multiparadigm, which means you are supposed to chose a subset of it's features and adopt practices that meet your goals, optimization, OOD, componentization, etc. All while refusing from stopping you from doing anything with the machine that it can do.
(1) more popular for what use? For example, vi is very popular for making jokes. (Which is handled well by the emacs joke-mode command, btw.)
(2) did they take into account the fact that being popular for an emacs user is worth 1.258 popularity points and being popular to a vi user is worth a mere.785 popularity points? They probably forgot this rule of thumb.
Sorry, got to run, I have a turkey in the emacs that's about done. I can't wash the dishes till I get it out.
I am a solaris user. I only use Linux for my laptop, and it's much nicer than using Windows for that.
I do believe the intel platform as an open architecture system, really should be preserved. If Sun wanted to palladium it's stuff it could do it overnight (other than the complaints they would face), but even Microsoft will have a hard time doing that in the essentially open PC architecture. I just think we need to record and thereby preserve the open architecture before it's get extended into something else.
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Nice post...! btw, I'm just responding mostly cause I know who you are... this is pyrrho (I applied to work with Explorati, if you recall)... anyway, small world on slashdot. Of course, in the real world I have another name.
It's clear that MS is trying to close the hardware until there is a Wintel specification for hardware which will run only windows. The Xbox is in fact that machine, but the plan also includes getting PC OEMs to help make these platforms. I don't know how likely it is to win, but they are trying it... they would like to close the PC down and make it an MS offering, like Apple closing down PowerPC clones. With the key difference being that MS didn't own the PC platform in the first place.
It would be good if the linux makers could just come up with a spec for a Linux machine design. This is the time to do it because they could just describe current machines. But it would get them into the area of categorizing machines and sorting out hardware issues. And if a palladium comes allong, it doesn't have to integrate that hardware into the Linux Hardware Platform Specification.
I'm totally adicted to power and the rest. But I think the technology is green. Some aren't, for some period of time, but it tends to grow cleaner. Can you imagine living in a million person city 1000 years ago?! sewage literally in the streets.
So I think you could have an ecotopia that has sufficient power. Personally I'm thinking hydrogen collected using solar energy on sea platforms.
I think ecological thinking requires technology. The idea that tech is automatically un-eco is false, in my opinion. Perhaps you agree.
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I think it should be legal to copy commercial software for personal use if you are under 18, as long as you do not make a profit or use it to generate profit for someone else.
Why? The educational value. How else would a 15 year old become coversant in tools that are certainly not justifiable purchases for them... like professional development environments etc.
Yes, games break my ideal. But it's just the seed of an idea.
g_global!!!
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you use globals...?! oh no... evil! the sky is falli-- just a little j/k j/k.
global replace disrespects scope.
If you want to rely on tools, just rely on one that can take you quickly to the definition of the variable! There are many commercial and open tools that can do this, such as SlickEdit, MSVC, cscope, even generating doxygen output is sufficient.
being able to replace objects without touching a bunch of code is part of the point of C++!
but if you avoid the GPL then you are not granted extra rights beyond copyright, and therefore you cannot distribute the code. The difference, by default, you have less rights than the GPL gives you. With EULAs you have, by default, MORE rights than after you agree to the EULA. The EULA is an agreement to give up some rights you would otherwise have (like the right to put the software on whatever machine you choose to use).
So yes, avoid the GPL, and also avoid it's extra freedoms. So your trap failed noble opponent!
ug, lameness filter opposed me presenting my point in authentic form....
:)
The romans used all capitals, no spaces or punctuation at all, if it was good enough for them... who are you to defy the Holy Roman Empire.
hmmm, I think it's lamer this way, the other way was much more funny.... better add this,
there can be little doubt you are correct.
accusations of election fraud happen every election. Of course, it's difficult to argue any given case because if it works, the cheater is in office, and if it failed, no one cares. However, these accusations come from all sides, all parties, all philosophies and there are many individual cases which are tried and withstand airing in the courtroom.
An example of gaming the system.
what makes you think it's been working?
The system you describe has been gamed and cheated for centuries now!
All the plots were explored by Shakespeare... by the Bible, I've heard it all... PROVE IT!
limited imagination, if you ask me... which you didn't. For example... Stanislaus Lem's plots... try to map them to HG Wells and find yourself making quite a big stretch.
it's irony.
...for hosting quake servers.
burning karma means losing it because his post was offtopic.
however, reverse psychology it is because it's generally an Immutible Law that slashdot moderators want to prove every post wrong. Saying you will lose karma works kind of like the Jedi Mind Trick. Of course, I will lose karma for saying this.
all the battles in philosophy, by which I mean not the academic ones but the real battles that go on within cultures and when they collide, are all stored, I believe, in the terms and phrases of language.
I think it's fair to say that philosophers mostly mine language for knowledge, as special kinds of philologists. As for the additional part, the creativity, it's mostly aimed in the direction of creating new words and new understandings for them, and is therefore just another part of the same process.
I hope to talk with you about this more in the future at some point.
Cheers.
kratos:
I think that it also is a specific kind of power. Supported credibly if not completely enough by it's use as shown in in this document which I found when googling for a little support for my hypothesis. What kind of power it is colors it's relationship with the other word part. I believe it's an oppressive sort of power, essentially the military power required to win and the spoils that are the reward (power over the people, to tax and control their economy. Taken this way Democracy has a different meaning, probably justifiable but incomplete. The people should have power over the government but should they take the position with regard to it that historically military governments do? Similarly if people have power of the "government", this is "govern" the correct root for that word? If the intent is to free the people to govern themselves, and free the economy, "democracy" is possibly the wrong approach.
Philosophy is stored in these terms. Breaking these terms open, or comparatively considering the distinctions between irony and coincidence, ironic coincidence or literal metaphors. I post this to you because of your clear like for making closer study of terms (I paused to grok your distinction between irony and coincidence), and because you also have a pragmatists view of language, a relatively rare combination. It allows one to look for the meaning of words as a philosophist rather than as a grammarian, trying to impose as RULES what are merely interesting philological patterns.
but they would also begin to become large contributors, affecting the BSDed projects direction.
Berkeley, for example, didn't want to have Microsoft feed code back to Berkeley... ick.
... and it's also impossible to cross the road, because before you can cross the road, you must cross half the road. And before you can cross the remaining half, you will cross half the remaining half. Always leaving some non-zero distance between you and the other side of the road.
yes, and it took them years to roll out some features in the compilers (templates were implimented poorly at first).
I think that C++ shares with C it's pragmatist approach. It's multiparadigm, which means you are supposed to chose a subset of it's features and adopt practices that meet your goals, optimization, OOD, componentization, etc. All while refusing from stopping you from doing anything with the machine that it can do.
Groupware? Kiss my ass. People dont work that way.
people don't work in groups?
two questions:
.785 popularity points? They probably forgot this rule of thumb.
(1) more popular for what use? For example, vi is very popular for making jokes. (Which is handled well by the emacs joke-mode command, btw.)
(2) did they take into account the fact that being popular for an emacs user is worth 1.258 popularity points and being popular to a vi user is worth a mere
Sorry, got to run, I have a turkey in the emacs that's about done. I can't wash the dishes till I get it out.
Pete Wilson isn't liberal.
ah, yes, but it's the power of branding. Repitition (repitition) is the repitition is the key.
btw, let me introduce myself, I'm pyrrho.
I am a solaris user. I only use Linux for my laptop, and it's much nicer than using Windows for that.
I do believe the intel platform as an open architecture system, really should be preserved. If Sun wanted to palladium it's stuff it could do it overnight (other than the complaints they would face), but even Microsoft will have a hard time doing that in the essentially open PC architecture. I just think we need to record and thereby preserve the open architecture before it's get extended into something else.
Off Topic:
Nice post...! btw, I'm just responding mostly cause I know who you are... this is pyrrho (I applied to work with Explorati, if you recall)... anyway, small world on slashdot. Of course, in the real world I have another name.
I guess Explorati is moribund? Too bad if true.
take it easy,
pyrrho
It's clear that MS is trying to close the hardware until there is a Wintel specification for hardware which will run only windows. The Xbox is in fact that machine, but the plan also includes getting PC OEMs to help make these platforms. I don't know how likely it is to win, but they are trying it... they would like to close the PC down and make it an MS offering, like Apple closing down PowerPC clones. With the key difference being that MS didn't own the PC platform in the first place.
It would be good if the linux makers could just come up with a spec for a Linux machine design. This is the time to do it because they could just describe current machines. But it would get them into the area of categorizing machines and sorting out hardware issues. And if a palladium comes allong, it doesn't have to integrate that hardware into the Linux Hardware Platform Specification.
I'm totally adicted to power and the rest. But I think the technology is green. Some aren't, for some period of time, but it tends to grow cleaner. Can you imagine living in a million person city 1000 years ago?! sewage literally in the streets.
So I think you could have an ecotopia that has sufficient power. Personally I'm thinking hydrogen collected using solar energy on sea platforms.
I think ecological thinking requires technology. The idea that tech is automatically un-eco is false, in my opinion. Perhaps you agree.