They are rebranded machines from Asia, so expect about the same level of linux/*BSD/etc support as any other obscure lowest bidder import type of notebook (kludgy but improving). It will be interesting to see if this takes off though. Laptops are, for many people, more of a fashion accessory than a computing device (think marketroid/execubot wannabe gearheads). Walmart brand laptop wouldn't have the same fashion value as a "Ubertron Mega Wassus 90009".
because they bring out so many people who bitterly complain and make excuses and want to challenge Fritz to a game of poker or something because it would give the human the advantage.
This is far from the end of our species, chill out. Even if we are worse at chess than the computers, it doesn't make the experience of being human meaningless. It doesn't mean we will be welcoming our new robot overlords any time soon.
Anyway, would it really be so bad, if AIs started getting better than humans at a lot of things? I think that in the end, we could take our greatest joy as a species in knowing that we created something better than ourselves.
Of course, that is an issue so seperated from computer chess, that many of you are probably complaining to yourselves.
That's how I feel when I read the excuse making and naysaying.
But WHY do we reject the moves? Certainly, there is some sort of evaluation going on there, even if it happens very quickly. One thing to consider is that the human brain shows a lot of the qualities of a massively parallel computer. Just because you can only concentrate on a few things conciously, doesn't mean that you don't have 'processing power' going into doing other things. In other words, humans use huge processing power too, it is just of a different kind.
There is debate over whether the current example of a thinking machine (the human brain) actually demonstrates quantum-effect. There are some structures in the brain that could "act quantumly", but you could say that about anything. I'm not any more qualified to end the debate than anyone else, but I will note the most of the people talking about quantum effects are quite unqualified to do so.
The robots (might) consider nukes ineffective, because the humans nuked them at the beginning of the man/machine war, and it didn't work very well. More importantly though, the machines had the sentinels lying around and probably considered it more efficient to use something they already had.
*sigh* Look, that is not at all the issue. I read the article *gasp* before it was even on slashdot. Secondly, the article says the campaign would probably be in the hundreds of millions, but I want to know how they GOT those numbers. Before you just jump on the RFTA article bandwagon, could you perhaps consider that there is more to the question than some journalist making up a number and writing it down. Plus, I fail to beleive there wasn't _some_ sort of deal made.
I didn't write a damned thing about artists. Not that I don't care, but in the end, it is to their benefit that people hear 'promos.' The post (as CLEARLY, imho, written) was about the rammifications for Apple. Thanks.
Then you disallow dictionary words and some "clever" variations thereof (my suggestion to them), but you don't specify a password format (especially one as weak as 52^3*10^3 [even that is optimistic, because I'm sure most people only use lowercase, just like normal, thus reducing the strength to 26^3*10^3, hashes of which would be findable with a proper audit tool in a couple of seconds]).
If you buy a billion songs, you probably get a significant discount, but still, how much is Micky D's give to Apple? Even half a billion dollars would be a huge deal for Apple. Good thing I have that stock...
If the leader of the free world was able to receive a "B" average Grade in college......Wait
And how well did YOU do at Harvard?
In certain parts of the south, "nucular" is a common pronunciation. If you say it isn't right, still, you just show an ignorance in the area of linguistics.
I would assume that they have offsite, unconnected backups of the file tree, which they can use a form of machine assisted comparison on to determine if any changes were made.
Many institutions unwittingly standardize on weak passwords. For example, a certain EE department at a certain university (that I might attend), has a password convention of six characters, letters and numbers, but no two letters or numbers are allowed next to each other. So all the passwords are number, letter, number, letter, etc or letter, number, letter, number. They don't even require mixed case letters.
Of course, i286 instructions only apply to i286 sucessors. There are lots of companies that that have actual innovative architectures (or at least aren't afraid of a little loss of backwards compatibility). Quantum computers are, of course, a much different thing. The "instructions" for a quantum computer are about how to decohere data without lossing it, as oppose to today's instructions which are "move these numbers, do an operation, move them again, etc, etc." They will be useful for computation (replacing what is currently done by brute force number crunching right now), but they don't serve any particular use on the desktop (you mentioned the i286, so I can only assume you are talking about desktop centric machines). So no quantum Halflife 8 for you. nyah.
at first, I thought you were the "what is with this, I'm at my freelance gig, trying to copy this file" troll. I'm always amazed by a) the number of people who somehow fail to install Redhat, even though you pretty much can't make a decision in the installer that will screw it up and b) the number of people who compare linux to windows 95. You could probably run PC-DOS on your machine, and it would be even faster than windows 95. So why not do it?
As for the actual operating system, no, it doesn't do atuodetect. This is a strength, not a weakeness. If you know what hardware you have, you tell the kernel to load those modules. If you don't and you need plug and play, you use hotplug or a similar solution. On my gentoo system, with hotplug (which is installed by default if you follow the instructions while installing), all my hardware was detected the first time. That includes my mp3 player and my digital camera. Has for games, those are a little weak, but I don't have time anyway and most users aren't gamers anyway. The vast majority of people using computers now are surfing the web and reading email.
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They are rebranded machines from Asia, so expect about the same level of linux/*BSD/etc support as any other obscure lowest bidder import type of notebook (kludgy but improving). It will be interesting to see if this takes off though. Laptops are, for many people, more of a fashion accessory than a computing device (think marketroid/execubot wannabe gearheads). Walmart brand laptop wouldn't have the same fashion value as a "Ubertron Mega Wassus 90009".
Except that this was due to a password leak, not a software issue. It wasn't rootkitted. Somebody stole/guessed a password.
because they bring out so many people who bitterly complain and make excuses and want to challenge Fritz to a game of poker or something because it would give the human the advantage.
This is far from the end of our species, chill out. Even if we are worse at chess than the computers, it doesn't make the experience of being human meaningless. It doesn't mean we will be welcoming our new robot overlords any time soon.
Anyway, would it really be so bad, if AIs started getting better than humans at a lot of things? I think that in the end, we could take our greatest joy as a species in knowing that we created something better than ourselves.
Of course, that is an issue so seperated from computer chess, that many of you are probably complaining to yourselves.
That's how I feel when I read the excuse making and naysaying.
But WHY do we reject the moves? Certainly, there is some sort of evaluation going on there, even if it happens very quickly. One thing to consider is that the human brain shows a lot of the qualities of a massively parallel computer. Just because you can only concentrate on a few things conciously, doesn't mean that you don't have 'processing power' going into doing other things. In other words, humans use huge processing power too, it is just of a different kind.
I'm on gentoo, and all I did was emerge xcdroast. Everything just worked. Honestly, I was amazed.
You read slashdot and you are worried about your kids' browsing habits?
oh. so you're trying to teach them how to navigate a network undetected. :)
The point was that it wasn't illegal, and after much debate it BECAME illegal.
Mirror of the wiki, in case it goes down:
/. (a.k.a. the land of the trolls) is not such a great idea.
I am stupid.
Perhaps linking to a wiki from
There is debate over whether the current example of a thinking machine (the human brain) actually demonstrates quantum-effect. There are some structures in the brain that could "act quantumly", but you could say that about anything. I'm not any more qualified to end the debate than anyone else, but I will note the most of the people talking about quantum effects are quite unqualified to do so.
The robots (might) consider nukes ineffective, because the humans nuked them at the beginning of the man/machine war, and it didn't work very well. More importantly though, the machines had the sentinels lying around and probably considered it more efficient to use something they already had.
yeah, but what do THEY use for their directions?
*sigh* Look, that is not at all the issue. I read the article *gasp* before it was even on slashdot. Secondly, the article says the campaign would probably be in the hundreds of millions, but I want to know how they GOT those numbers. Before you just jump on the RFTA article bandwagon, could you perhaps consider that there is more to the question than some journalist making up a number and writing it down. Plus, I fail to beleive there wasn't _some_ sort of deal made.
I didn't write a damned thing about artists. Not that I don't care, but in the end, it is to their benefit that people hear 'promos.' The post (as CLEARLY, imho, written) was about the rammifications for Apple. Thanks.
Then you disallow dictionary words and some "clever" variations thereof (my suggestion to them), but you don't specify a password format (especially one as weak as 52^3*10^3 [even that is optimistic, because I'm sure most people only use lowercase, just like normal, thus reducing the strength to 26^3*10^3, hashes of which would be findable with a proper audit tool in a couple of seconds]).
If you buy a billion songs, you probably get a significant discount, but still, how much is Micky D's give to Apple? Even half a billion dollars would be a huge deal for Apple. Good thing I have that stock...
If the leader of the free world was able to receive a "B" average Grade in college......Wait
And how well did YOU do at Harvard?
In certain parts of the south, "nucular" is a common pronunciation. If you say it isn't right, still, you just show an ignorance in the area of linguistics.
I would assume that they have offsite, unconnected backups of the file tree, which they can use a form of machine assisted comparison on to determine if any changes were made.
Many institutions unwittingly standardize on weak passwords. For example, a certain EE department at a certain university (that I might attend), has a password convention of six characters, letters and numbers, but no two letters or numbers are allowed next to each other. So all the passwords are number, letter, number, letter, etc or letter, number, letter, number. They don't even require mixed case letters.
Of course, i286 instructions only apply to i286 sucessors. There are lots of companies that that have actual innovative architectures (or at least aren't afraid of a little loss of backwards compatibility). Quantum computers are, of course, a much different thing. The "instructions" for a quantum computer are about how to decohere data without lossing it, as oppose to today's instructions which are "move these numbers, do an operation, move them again, etc, etc." They will be useful for computation (replacing what is currently done by brute force number crunching right now), but they don't serve any particular use on the desktop (you mentioned the i286, so I can only assume you are talking about desktop centric machines). So no quantum Halflife 8 for you. nyah.
at first, I thought you were the "what is with this, I'm at my freelance gig, trying to copy this file" troll. I'm always amazed by a) the number of people who somehow fail to install Redhat, even though you pretty much can't make a decision in the installer that will screw it up and b) the number of people who compare linux to windows 95. You could probably run PC-DOS on your machine, and it would be even faster than windows 95. So why not do it?
What is to keep me from building a device to mask out the broadcast bit and then passing it through?
Can't be that complicated, and I'm sure someone will even start selling such devices, "for educational purposes only."
As for the actual operating system, no, it doesn't do atuodetect. This is a strength, not a weakeness. If you know what hardware you have, you tell the kernel to load those modules. If you don't and you need plug and play, you use hotplug or a similar solution. On my gentoo system, with hotplug (which is installed by default if you follow the instructions while installing), all my hardware was detected the first time. That includes my mp3 player and my digital camera. Has for games, those are a little weak, but I don't have time anyway and most users aren't gamers anyway. The vast majority of people using computers now are surfing the web and reading email.
It appears you are compiling your kernel, would you like some help?
But we told you so!
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