The thing is, this is a civil proceeding (something many people on/. appear to have missed). As such, there isn't a guilty or innocent technically, and there are different rules for burden of proof. That's why there is such a thing as a default ruling in cases like these (i.e. guilty until you show up and prove yourself innocent).
We can't presume intelligence in a computer, where as a judge is a member of a sentient species, AND by virtue of his/her position, presumed to be among the ones who would exercise better judgement.
Yeah, but that just means that it can take out networks behind targetted routers, that doesn't mean it can self propagate, Great Worm style. Sysadmins should already be doing their best to mask the type of routing and switching eq they use (which would minimize the possibility of sucessful scans). So far, this exploit can only propagate down the tree, not sideways.
At least it only freezes the device. If you could make it send the same packet to some of it's router buddies, then freeze, this could get real bad, real fast.
You know those ideas you have, and don't bother recording anywhere, but then someone else goes and makes money off of it?... I wanted to do something like this using libsdl. Ergad. Oh well, maybe I'll start actually doing something about my ideas one of these days...
More likely, the next big jive word my boss is going to get obsessed with. I mean, sure, it's a great idea, and eventually I see it coming into heavy use, but for right now, I just see the corporate types throwing it around in their techno-babble pissing matches Suit 1: We've got 10,000 uberhumungo servers running Microsoft 2003 Humungo Server Edition, with b2b backend, integrated transaction safe, load-balanced Humungo Edition IIS. Suit 2: Well, we have all of that, plus Intrusion Tolerance. Suit 1: Oh, baby. Can I merge with you?
There is a microsoft evangelist group that does that. It's called microsoft. And if you just look at their ad campaigns in publications aimed for sysadmins, you see numerous examples of microsoft marketing they mud slinging rather talking about the benefits of their own products. Clearly, there are bugs in microsoft software. Clearly, there are bugs in linux. There are bugs in *BSD, etc. The difference between the open source and closed source examples is I can DO something about the bugs in open source software, whereas my solution for bugs in closed source software is to wait for a patch or write a less bug open source replacement.
Yeah, I still use my laserjet4 to run off my pirated^H^H^H^H^H^H^H project gutenberg ebooks. I've hade it for years, and I'm just about to replace the toner for the first time. They just don't make them like that anymore (and what is everyone's fascination with inkjet... give me more expensive but quality laser anyday).
It's a good thing you didn't bother to actually read any farther than that. The advantage of parasite is that is uses automated code generation and a linked list matrix to make the search fast. i.e. Search a million word dictionary in much, much less than a second. And it is, very, very suited to distributed computing. The same technique could easily be altered to sort the dictionary over multiple systems (in fact, we're already testing it to do so). I've worked with VPN keys, and with WEP (yes, yes it is pathetic) and PGP, well, that goes without saying. Yes, hashing techniques are fairly weak. But the point is people use them. One time pads are unbreakable if people maintain proper key security. But people don't use one time pads and other related methods, because they are logistical nightmares (the same nightmare, really, that makes WEP so weak). Why should I spend my time writing audit tools for PAM modules that don't exist?
As a coder who works with things like md5 cracking programs (like the thingy in my sig) and various assundry other programs, I can honestly say: the crackers do NOT need any more processing power!
It's this whole thing about humanistic hedonism. It shows that humanity has returned to it's primitive tribal roots in response to the machines.... or at least IMHO.
One of his arguments is that they will still need the shuttle to bring up supplies. No, they already have the soyuz freighter for that. In fact, I think they hardly ever use the shuttle to bring supplies to ISS. It would be very inefficient (the part he did get right). The point of this vehicle is to allow cheaper and more abundant crew transfer ability, especially in case of emergencies.
This is easier in Japan than in America, for two reasons. Firstly, Japan is very densely populated, compared to most parts of America, at least. Secondly, they are a very wired (well, wireless too) culture. From what I've heard, Japan's last generation was their wired generation, and this one is their wireless generation...
The GNAA is really pwning this thread. After going through the first page, there was only one actual comment. Perhaps it's time for an update of the filter?
I guess I just don't understand the buying vintage computer EQ thing. I mean, I kind of understand people buying old cars-- they are *somewhat* comparable to new cars in performance, and therefore somewhat practical as well. Obviously, the cool factor is what motivates people to buy old cars, but they aren't going to find themselves driving down the interstate at 1 km/h. And that's a very favorable metaphor for a C64 in a C64 vs. modern PC comparison. Personally, if I ever see a C64 again, I will kick it down the stairs. Hey, wait... maybe I'll buy one for that!
So the rebuttal says the article was flawed because it was written assuming a perfect mirror, and not assuming a perfect vacuum. While the part about not assuming a perfect mirror is very true and valid, the part about space being a perfect vacuum seems a little suspect. I mean, it might be close, but you have to consider the size that a solar sail would be. Especially if operating in a cloud of interstellar dust, etc. friction would be noticable.
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The thing is, this is a civil proceeding (something many people on /. appear to have missed). As such, there isn't a guilty or innocent technically, and there are different rules for burden of proof. That's why there is such a thing as a default ruling in cases like these (i.e. guilty until you show up and prove yourself innocent).
We can't presume intelligence in a computer, where as a judge is a member of a sentient species, AND by virtue of his/her position, presumed to be among the ones who would exercise better judgement.
You're new here, aren't you?
What's my link now? *walk a little* What's my link now? *walk a little* What's...
Yeah, but that just means that it can take out networks behind targetted routers, that doesn't mean it can self propagate, Great Worm style. Sysadmins should already be doing their best to mask the type of routing and switching eq they use (which would minimize the possibility of sucessful scans). So far, this exploit can only propagate down the tree, not sideways.
At least it only freezes the device. If you could make it send the same packet to some of it's router buddies, then freeze, this could get real bad, real fast.
You know those ideas you have, and don't bother recording anywhere, but then someone else goes and makes money off of it? ... I wanted to do something like this using libsdl. Ergad. Oh well, maybe I'll start actually doing something about my ideas one of these days...
More likely, the next big jive word my boss is going to get obsessed with. I mean, sure, it's a great idea, and eventually I see it coming into heavy use, but for right now, I just see the corporate types throwing it around in their techno-babble pissing matches
Suit 1: We've got 10,000 uberhumungo servers running Microsoft 2003 Humungo Server Edition, with b2b backend, integrated transaction safe, load-balanced Humungo Edition IIS.
Suit 2: Well, we have all of that, plus Intrusion Tolerance.
Suit 1: Oh, baby. Can I merge with you?
There is a microsoft evangelist group that does that. It's called microsoft. And if you just look at their ad campaigns in publications aimed for sysadmins, you see numerous examples of microsoft marketing they mud slinging rather talking about the benefits of their own products. Clearly, there are bugs in microsoft software. Clearly, there are bugs in linux. There are bugs in *BSD, etc. The difference between the open source and closed source examples is I can DO something about the bugs in open source software, whereas my solution for bugs in closed source software is to wait for a patch or write a less bug open source replacement.
Yeah, I still use my laserjet4 to run off my pirated^H^H^H^H^H^H^H project gutenberg ebooks. I've hade it for years, and I'm just about to replace the toner for the first time. They just don't make them like that anymore (and what is everyone's fascination with inkjet... give me more expensive but quality laser anyday).
If the contents of those "documents" were made public
Well, I'll assume they are, seeing as you are OBVIOUSLY not a kernel developer yourself and yet you seem to be talking about those very contents...
That's right, son. Whip-it. Whip-it good.
It's a good thing you didn't bother to actually read any farther than that. The advantage of parasite is that is uses automated code generation and a linked list matrix to make the search fast. i.e. Search a million word dictionary in much, much less than a second. And it is, very, very suited to distributed computing. The same technique could easily be altered to sort the dictionary over multiple systems (in fact, we're already testing it to do so). I've worked with VPN keys, and with WEP (yes, yes it is pathetic) and PGP, well, that goes without saying. Yes, hashing techniques are fairly weak. But the point is people use them. One time pads are unbreakable if people maintain proper key security. But people don't use one time pads and other related methods, because they are logistical nightmares (the same nightmare, really, that makes WEP so weak). Why should I spend my time writing audit tools for PAM modules that don't exist?
As a coder who works with things like md5 cracking programs (like the thingy in my sig) and various assundry other programs, I can honestly say: the crackers do NOT need any more processing power!
You forgot one thing: The force isn't strong with SCO.
It's this whole thing about humanistic hedonism. It shows that humanity has returned to it's primitive tribal roots in response to the machines.... or at least IMHO.
One of his arguments is that they will still need the shuttle to bring up supplies. No, they already have the soyuz freighter for that. In fact, I think they hardly ever use the shuttle to bring supplies to ISS. It would be very inefficient (the part he did get right). The point of this vehicle is to allow cheaper and more abundant crew transfer ability, especially in case of emergencies.
This is easier in Japan than in America, for two reasons. Firstly, Japan is very densely populated, compared to most parts of America, at least. Secondly, they are a very wired (well, wireless too) culture. From what I've heard, Japan's last generation was their wired generation, and this one is their wireless generation...
The GNAA is really pwning this thread. After going through the first page, there was only one actual comment. Perhaps it's time for an update of the filter?
ah. sadly, i didn't connect the two at all... thanks.
Am I on crack or is that moderated funny? What is funny about it?
Bill Gates by a landslide!
AOLers and bloggers at the same time. Sounds like a horrible chimera-like beast.
Because we can!
I guess I just don't understand the buying vintage computer EQ thing. I mean, I kind of understand people buying old cars-- they are *somewhat* comparable to new cars in performance, and therefore somewhat practical as well. Obviously, the cool factor is what motivates people to buy old cars, but they aren't going to find themselves driving down the interstate at 1 km/h. And that's a very favorable metaphor for a C64 in a C64 vs. modern PC comparison. Personally, if I ever see a C64 again, I will kick it down the stairs. Hey, wait... maybe I'll buy one for that!
So the rebuttal says the article was flawed because it was written assuming a perfect mirror, and not assuming a perfect vacuum. While the part about not assuming a perfect mirror is very true and valid, the part about space being a perfect vacuum seems a little suspect. I mean, it might be close, but you have to consider the size that a solar sail would be. Especially if operating in a cloud of interstellar dust, etc. friction would be noticable.
I hereby order this thread closed under Godwin's Law. The winner is Blitzshlag, the loser is Anonymous Coward.