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Linux Comes To Afghanistan

gaurab writes "For the first time, 11 people were trained in Linux in Kabul. This training was supported by UNDP as a broader program to build capacity in use of computer technologies. The press release and some info is available at UNDP Afghanistan Website. It was reported on NewsForge today, and was picked up by the Washington Post few days ago. Some discussion also happend on the South Asia Mailing List."

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  5. What's the Over/Under by leviramsey · · Score: 1

    On how long before there's a JonKatz reference?

    1. Re:What's the Over/Under by PD · · Score: 3, Funny

      How many bogomips does Talibanux give on a Commodore 64?

    2. Re:What's the Over/Under by leviramsey · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      For the record, PD beat autopr0n, posting a JonKatz/Junis reference within a minute of my challengs.

      Anybody who took the Under wins!

    3. Re:What's the Over/Under by dew-genen-ny · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      i told u i was hardcore.... so, someone else noticed autopron was beaten.....

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    4. Re:What's the Over/Under by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, I don't know if you were paying attention, but you were the first to bust out a Jon Katz/Junis reference here.

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  12. Hurray? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You linux geeks need to set some higher goals. Like porting it to a tub of peanut butter.

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  18. What? by autopr0n · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    What about Junis? Didn't he download it for his C64?

    /wonders if the 64 people below my threshold all made the same joke...?

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    1. Re:What? by NiceGeek · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Y'know...I'm a little tired of the Junis-C64 jokes. I'm no Katz defender but the original article stated that Junis was using a Commodore computer. Commodore also made the Amiga and even the A500 was/is capable of getting on the Internet. This was a stupid joke to begin with. BTW autopr0n, I'm not flaming you specifically :)

    2. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The gay is strong with this one.

    3. Re:What? by lee7guy · · Score: 1

      Not to mention their unsuccessful, but linux capable windows/dos based PC series. The one on which they blew all the money which should have been put to better use by marketing/improving the Amiga series.

      --
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  19. new record by G27+Radio · · Score: 2, Funny

    For the first time, 11 people were trained in Linux in Kabul. ...beating their previous record of 10 achieved in 2002.

    1. Re:new record by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      For the first time, 11 people were trained in Linux in Kabul.

      Followed shortly by a terrorist attack by the former Taliban regime which killed 10 of the 11.

  20. Afghanistan could certainly benefit from LINUX. by banal+avenger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's interesting that the UN would pick up LINUX support. It's good, but still surprising. LINUX is a great way to start people on the right track to success, free of restrictions from the likes of Microsoft. Instead, they're only limited (freed?) by the GPL.

    At any rate, it's definitely beneficial to provide them with a low cost solution to get up-to-date in the tech world.

    1. Re:Afghanistan could certainly benefit from LINUX. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait a second. You're right. The UN picked Linux! Oh no... This can't be good for Linux's image among paranoid, anti-UN conspiracy theorists! (Every time I think of this concept I think of Dale from King Of The Hill. Can't help it.)

      Also, you can forget about Bush giving in to any of Linus's demands. The invasion of Finland begins unless Linus will step down within 48 hours... Okay, that one was a little weak.

    2. Re:Afghanistan could certainly benefit from LINUX. by Malcontent · · Score: 2, Insightful

      " That's interesting that the UN would pick up LINUX support."

      Yes. Especially considering there has not been a public election yet.

      Free as in freedom should include elections don't you think?

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    3. Re:Afghanistan could certainly benefit from LINUX. by banal+avenger · · Score: 1

      Freedom should also include getting Osama Bin Laden. Or not. He was secondary anyway. We're moving on in our tour... Afghanistan -> Iraq -> (Iran/N. Korea/China). Who's it going to be? Hopefully the next election will get here before the next "conflict."

    4. Re:Afghanistan could certainly benefit from LINUX. by Ringlord · · Score: 1

      It should be USA. It's time George W. took a look at his own backyard.

    5. Re:Afghanistan could certainly benefit from LINUX. by screenrc · · Score: 1

      I must agree, Linux one of the proper solutions
      for Afganistan. But do they still have
      electicity over there?

    6. Re:Afghanistan could certainly benefit from LINUX. by helarno · · Score: 4, Informative

      The UN is supporting Free/Open Source Software (not just Linux) through a variety of ways. Someone has already posted Netaid's site as a reply. Two others off the top of my head:

      1) UNESCO's support of the Free Software portal. You can find it at:
      http://www.unesco.org/webworld/portal_freesoft/

      2) The UNDP's International Open Source Network found at:
      http://www.iosn.net. This portal focuses on promoting Free/Open Source software to policy makers, government officials, etc. I believe there are other regional centers coming up as well.

      There's a surprising amount of focus on Free/Open Source software in the UN, though most of it is only in the early stages.

    7. Re:Afghanistan could certainly benefit from LINUX. by rikkards · · Score: 1

      What? Canada?
      (I can say this I am Canadian and it is a (partial) joke)

    8. Re:Afghanistan could certainly benefit from LINUX. by tsa · · Score: 1

      LINUX is a great way to start people on the right track to success.

      Yes. Who needs roads, food and all that. Trust in Linux and everything will be OK.

      But seriously, here's a country that can learn from the mistake the Western world made (to make yourself almost completely dependant on one incompatible system). Not the fact that Linux is used is important here but the fact that they use a system that can easily be integrated with other computer systems from different companies.

      --

      -- Cheers!

    9. Re:Afghanistan could certainly benefit from LINUX. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moi j'aime les Canadien(ne)s .....


      ..... sauf les anglophones!

    10. Re:Afghanistan could certainly benefit from LINUX. by leifm · · Score: 1

      As an American I hope I am dead before this country falls, cause that's not going to be fun for us Americans.

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    11. Re:Afghanistan could certainly benefit from LINUX. by mango9 · · Score: 1

      Some UNDP programs have been promoting Linux in developing countries for nearly ten years e.g. the Sustainable Development Networking Programme which has tailed off now but worked diligently and quietly in some 30 countries. Many organisations came out of this which are still promoting open source. See
      http://www.sdnp.undp.org
      http://www.sdnp.und p.org/rc/areas/tech/linux/
      (Note link to slashdot... and to older technologies)

    12. Re:Afghanistan could certainly benefit from LINUX. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, I totally misread that as "erection".

      And yes, freedom should include public erections.

    13. Re:Afghanistan could certainly benefit from LINUX. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      It's never too early to start helping people.

      --
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    14. Re:Afghanistan could certainly benefit from LINUX. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice troll

  21. Re:DON'T WASTE MOD POINTS ON THIS GNAA SPAMMER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the gn@@ h@x0r36 th3 sr7.

  22. Apperantly not by autopr0n · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    /wonders if the 64 people below my threshold all made the same joke...?

    Apparently not. I guess someone's pulled some kind of distributed crap-flooding. Interesting, although I don't really think posting a bunch score-0 posts really counts as 'pwn'ing slashdot...

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    1. Re:Apperantly not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Today, when you refuse to give a homeless person the fifty cents he asks of you, you will be the reason he dies. Not from starvation or the inability to make a phone call to reach out to his brother, the only person left in the world willing to take him in. Rather, when you refuse to give him the change and say, "Get a job, hippy," the homeless person will be overcome with fury and frustration to the point that he will feel it is impossible to take one single step forward. He'll just stand exactly where you left him, exactly where his feet were planted when you told him no, he'll stand in that spot for six minutes without a quiver. And just when he's about to take a step, a frozen rod composed entirely of urine ejected from the belly of a commercial jet will impale him through the chest and he will die. And it will be all your fault because you upset him.

      Give to the homeless. It's up to you to keep them from being impaled by human waste turned solid thanks to a combination of jet engine speed and high altitude sub-zero temperatures.

  23. what happened? by defaultXIX · · Score: 1

    whats with all the GNAA? anyone else browesing at 0 or -1? I wondered why there were so many comments below my threshold....

    1. Re:what happened? by leviramsey · · Score: 1

      A distributed crapflood... I got first non-GNAA post, and I was like the 40th post...

    2. Re:what happened? by Read+Icculus · · Score: 1

      That crapflood sucks for the non crap-flooding ACs who could be modded up for making good points. I would bet not as many people will browse at 0.

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    3. Re:what happened? by TomGroves · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I agree. I browse at 0 but I would up that if crapfloods were always as bad as this article's.

  24. Technology Doesn't Know Who Owns It by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    The new US-backed government of Afghanistan has banned the weekly Aftaab for publishing "sacrilegious" articles. All copies of the journal have been confiscated from stands and vendors. Chief editor Sayed Mir Hussein Mahdavi and his Iranian assistant Ali Reza Payam Sistany were arrested in Kabul June on 17 on orders of the government and interrogated by the office of the Attorney General. There were no written arrest warrants issued before the arrest. The two journalists are currently held in the Kabul detention center, waiting for their fate. They are accused of violating the press law of the Islamic state, which prohibits in its Article 31 offences against Islam. The Supreme Court of Afghanistan can straight away open blasphemy trials against alleged offenders proposed by the government and decide their punishment.

    Islam frowns on pictures of living things, so can the penguin.

  25. So do we have to start calling them GNU/Taliban? by mikeophile · · Score: 0, Troll
    I will take eleven of your hackers and train them in the ways of Linux. This eleven will train the thousands that remain. When the oil flow stops, all eyes will turn to Afghanistan. The Secretary of State and the President himself will be forced to deal with us. Afghanistan will become the center of the Universe.

    /I'm such a whore.

  26. GNAA filter by spacecowboy420 · · Score: 1

    I like browsing "raw and uncut" because I do want to see all that is said - I do appreciate a good troll.

    This GNAA shit is getting out of hand. Slashdot needs troll filters. Or better yet a crap flood mod that I can exclude from my browsing.

    Seriously, a good troll is art, what you dumb fucks are doing is just plain stupid.

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    ymmv
    1. Re:GNAA filter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right. Slashdot's readership is mostly white repressed heterosexuals. GNAA should advertize elsewhere.

    2. Re:GNAA filter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      errrrrrr which is it? uncut or filtered?

  27. Someone has really pissed on timothy's work now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think this certainly outdoes the previous peeing. I feel for you timmy. It was a good story.

  28. Benefits of i18n by GammaTau · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It was very nice to read this at the South Asia IT mailing list (the one linked in the main story).

    So.. yep,,, there's work being done. There're also KDE and GNOME development teams in Farsi, which is very close to Dari- the langugae of Afghanistan. Pashto is also similar. There was a demo of Frasi KDE while I was in Kabul and it has also generated some interests.

    Good localization is really important for the non-western world. I really respect the GNOME and KDE projects for developing open framework that allows this with reasonable effort.

    1. Re:Benefits of i18n by Kosi · · Score: 1

      Good localization is really important for the non-western world.

      What about learning a foreign language that's widely used as English? Nearly all software should be available in english.

      I could go nuts when I see how many ressources are wasted into translation instead of removing the annoying bugs! (btw, I am a native German speaker, not English. But I don't whine around I want everything in German!)

      Also, I'm still waiting for an explanation for the idiocy to put the text of a software somewhere else than in a simple to replace text file than mix it between the code.

    2. Re:Benefits of i18n by GammaTau · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Also, I'm still waiting for an explanation for the idiocy to put the text of a software somewhere else than in a simple to replace text file than mix it between the code.

      Err, I think the GNOME and KDE projects do it exactly in the non-idiotic way. As far as I know, they can be translated by editing a simple text file. That means that people other than the actual developers can do the translation so very little developer time is wasted on that.

      By the way, translating software to your own language (if it's something else than English) is a good way to offer volunteer support for your favorite piece of software even if you didn't know how to write code. It's something non-technical people can do.

    3. Re:Benefits of i18n by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      Many of us live in countries not as developed as Germany. The cost to do translation is a grain of sand compared to the desert of the cost of teching English to a nation. KDE and Gnome are good for translation, but sometimes still suffer problems with 8 and 16 bit character sets.

  29. Great... by Toasty16 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...the UN teaches a handful of Afghanis some Linux and the first thing they do is swamp /. with GNAA posts. There is no limit to the wonders of technology!

    1. Re:Great... by Kosi · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      GNAA?

  30. MODERATORS, MOD OTHER POST UP INSTEAD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let the supermoderators mod it down. Use your modpoints wisely.

  31. Afghanistan is not a primitive country.... by hughk · · Score: 4, Insightful
    if they manage to get their act together. One of the good points about Former Soviet Countries was that education was relatively good. It is only in the last 10 years or so that things have fallen behind.

    If you go to the surrounding coutries such as Uzbekistan and Pakistan (even Iran), they have quite a good infrastructure. It is just Afghanistan that has been left behind because of the war.

    Why Linux, well getting aid money to buy software isn't so hard. Unfortunately, it isn't going to pay for the updates. WIth Linux, you at least have a chance of ensuring your stuff is well maintained. At least in Pakistan and Uzbekistan (I worked there, so I know), you can buy Win2K3 or XP for a couple of dollars, but you can't really use aid money for pirated software.

    In palces like that, the replacement cycle for PCs lasts a long time. Three years ago, I was still seeing 486s in Uzbekistan under Win95. The ability of Linux to last longer with the same hardware is definitely an advantage.

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    1. Re:Afghanistan is not a primitive country.... by Snoopy77 · · Score: 1

      For someone who lived and worked in the area you would think that they would know which countries were and were not former Soviet states.

      --
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    2. Re:Afghanistan is not a primitive country.... by foonf · · Score: 5, Informative

      Afghanistan is not a "former Soviet Country", really, although it was under a Soviet-backed government for a time. It never had the state-supported education and health-care infrastructure that developed in the Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, and even North Korea. The American-backed guerilla campaign against the government began almost as soon as the communists took power (and six months before the Soviet invasion), and any efforts they might have made to reorganize the society were made difficult by the almost continual state of war after 1979. So it is really the last 25 years that they have been "falling behind", and things were not amazingly great before then.

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    3. Re:Afghanistan is not a primitive country.... by child_of_mercy · · Score: 1

      former communist then (albeit nominally), it was behind the iron curtain, being a tad pedantic on that one my friend.

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    4. Re:Afghanistan is not a primitive country.... by broeman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      and because of this, Afghanistan is only about 40% of the original country. The areas the Sovjet Union conquered (I can't spell!) became other "stans": Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, that indeed where under Sovjet rule until the creation of the Rusian Federation (which I think they are not member of). Afghanistan had (and probably still have) a high culture, which was developed before the CIA vs. KGB coldwar. Their connection to Pakistan today is not to forget either, and many (really many) afghan emigrants around the world are quite high educated.

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    5. Re:Afghanistan is not a primitive country.... by hughk · · Score: 1

      The exact status of Afghanistan is somewhat debatable, technically it was independendent (but so was Mongolia) but for a time at least, it was closer to the USSR than the Warsaw-pact countries.

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    6. Re:Afghanistan is not a primitive country.... by hughk · · Score: 1

      I beg to differ, they certainly had a good education system in the eighties. One of my interpreters in Uz had worked there for a while and certainly it wasn't so bad in Kabul. Many of the outlying places had problems (especially to the south and west, corresponding to the Pakistan and Iranian border areas).

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    7. Re:Afghanistan is not a primitive country.... by hughk · · Score: 1

      Uzbekistan was carved out in the early twenties by Soviet geographers along with Turkmenistan and Tajikistan. In reality, there are a number of peoples in the area, and whilst there are definite ethnic groups, who ended up where had little to do with the reality. This one reason why Afghanistan is so complicated. Yes, there was a historical kingdom, but the people were from all over.

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    8. Re:Afghanistan is not a primitive country.... by Zoop · · Score: 1

      Actually most of the 'stans were conquered, occupied, and made states by the Russians prior to the Soviet Union. They were essentially vassal states, and incorporating them into the Soviet Union just openly acknowledged what had been true previously.

      Google for Britain, Russia, and "The Great Game" in the 19th century. Very interesting stuff.

    9. Re:Afghanistan is not a primitive country.... by jo42 · · Score: 1


      And just what could their contribution to the global economy be? More rocks? Don't we already have enough rock and sand farmers in the middle east?

    10. Re:Afghanistan is not a primitive country.... by Hard_Code · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, it seems that the natural resource profile of Afghanistan breaks down like this:

      * 70% dirt
      * 10% rock
      * 8% rubble
      * 5% land mines
      * 5% unexploded ordinance
      * 2% flaming automobile hulls

      Fortunately, they have the market cornered on:

      * 100% newly liberated country which can provide pipeline access between caspian and arabian seas

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    11. Re:Afghanistan is not a primitive country.... by broeman · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info, what I mean is that Russia/Soviet always were interested in the region, and that Afghanistan is full of mixtures, which Russia wanted to divide into cultures (to control them easier, so they could conquer the Indian Sea and propably India (+Pakistan) itself) giving them the right to have ships and troops in that area.

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    12. Re:Afghanistan is not a primitive country.... by Bourbonium · · Score: 1

      While you are correct that Afghanistan was never officially one of the Soviet Socialist Republics, it did suffer under Soviet domination for a time, until the Mujahideen rebels defeated the USSR forces.

      One of my IT consulting clients is a small businessman from Afghanistan who fled the country with his family shortly after the Soviets invaded. He says Afghanistan in the 1970s was just as developed as neighboring countries like Iran and Pakistan. Kabul in those days was as modern a city as Tehran or Karachi. He earned his degree in Electrical Engineering from the University of Kabul and now owns a thriving business selling and supporting Savin/Ricoh multifunction office technology. While he still hopes to return to his home someday, he says he's pretty pleased with life here in the States and this is now where he calls home.

    13. Re:Afghanistan is not a primitive country.... by Snoopy77 · · Score: 1

      And guess what ... East Germany, Poland, etc. were not part of the Soviet Union either!

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    14. Re:Afghanistan is not a primitive country.... by hughk · · Score: 1

      Tell that to Mr Vlad Putin. He was the KGB chief for the DDR. No, the Warsaw pact countries were essentially satellite governments with some (limited) rights of their own. Central Asia was different. Until the middle of the last century, the British were in India/Pakitsan and the Sviets came down to Uzbekistan. Afghanistan acted as a buffer state. It was reasonably independent (although packed with spies from both sides) and the positive side of Islamic culture could flourish. In 1979, a communist revolt forced the the old government out but the new one was disliked (mostly because they ignored local leaders). They then invited the Soviets in to help prop up their new government. After that, the government their lost any semblence of independence. A proxy war then broke out with the CIA and MI6 sending in 'military advisers' and weapons through Pakistan. The Iranians also sponsored some groups on the West. Kabul became essentially a Soviet military colony but was relatively safe. The northern border with Uzbekistan became quite open, but the south was off limits.

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    15. Re:Afghanistan is not a primitive country.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Do you actually have any idea what you are talking about? No? Thought not.

      Bzzzt. Wrong. Use Linux. Get a degree. There's no jobs. 3: Profit!!!

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  32. Language Support by patch-rustem · · Score: 1

    Linux wins again.
    Seriously though there's even a Farsi version of Knoppix.

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  33. Jesus. by Valar · · Score: 0, Redundant

    The GNAA is really pwning this thread. After going through the first page, there was only one actual comment. Perhaps it's time for an update of the filter?

    1. Re:Jesus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Word! This thread got bend over hard by the GNAA. They are just too damn leet. I ph34r!

    2. Re:Jesus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Don't blaspheme. . .
      and just ignore anonymous cowards.
      esay isn't it.

    3. Re:Jesus. by felonious · · Score: 1

      WTF is GNAA? I am half serious, half troll, and the other 22% is humor...

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    4. Re:Jesus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      They are just too damn leet


      script kiddies using many different proxies to post crap are not leet, they are just stupid script kiddies.

    5. Re:Jesus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Different proxies? man dhcpcd That, a for loop and a little l33t Perl script the hacked from someone elses. Man, they're so hard.

  34. Re:Afgani Tech Sector by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It has come to my attention that there is currently a tech labor shortage in Afghanistan. That means they must get visas for people from other countries to fill that gap, and work cheaper. Some day, I only hope the shortage -- no, crisis, that's better, it's a crisis -- in this country will go away. But, clearly there is sufficient demand.

  35. Re:DON'T WASTE MOD POINTS ON THIS GNAA SPAMMER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not fair to other users. I had a few of these shitheads on my ISP a couple times, and my IP was banned for awhile. Slashdot really needs to get its act together, because IP-based checks are definitely not the way.

    Maybe they should implement some crazy authorization scheme that's hard to automate. Or do what places like Yahoo do when you're signing up for an account: give you an image of a word inside scrambled pixels, and make you type the word.

  36. Weyhey! by Pinguu · · Score: 1, Funny

    For the first time, 11 people were trained in Linux in Kabul.
    Unfortunatly over 1000 have already been trained in Windows :/

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  37. okay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And in a related story Afghanistan is in need of immediate technical experts trained in removing peanut butter from keybords and poptarts from ROM drives.

    no?

  38. The thing is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You can't really train for Linux.

    Linux happens.

    1. Re:The thing is... by broeman · · Score: 1

      so true (uhm, I mean: no comment!)

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    2. Re:The thing is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well you can sure as hell try.

      My thought is, even if you can never be fully prepared, when Linux happens do you want your first warning to be a giant penguin cloud stretching over the Manhattan skyline with a kernel startup warning about something wrong with /dev/ps2a0 printed across it? Hell no!

  39. Most. Bannal. Comment. Ever. by autopr0n · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Not that they'res anything wrong with that, of course.

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  40. What does Jon Katz have to say about this? by Platinum+Dragon · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Has Junis told him about installing Red Hat 9 on his C64 yet?

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    1. Re:What does Jon Katz have to say about this? by mirko · · Score: 1

      Actually, that would rather be Lunix which is a c64 port of Linux...

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    2. Re:What does Jon Katz have to say about this? by stud9920 · · Score: 1

      It's not a port of Linux. It has no connection whatsover with the Linux codebase.

  41. Re:So do we have to start calling them GNU/Taliban by Homology · · Score: 1

    May I suggest that you ease a little on the intake of Afgani opium?

  42. Of course 17.5 million were trained in Windows by nzyank · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    But this is SlashDot so no one here wants to hear about that.

  43. Re:Someone has really pissed on timothy's work now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whoops. I think timothy is a different tim than in CmdrTaco's journal. Oh well. It's still classic.

  44. Re:Afgani Tech Sector by martingunnarsson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Whatever happened to that "all humans are equal"-thing...

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  45. Re:DON'T WASTE MOD POINTS ON THIS GNAA SPAMMER by ultrapenguin · · Score: 1

    I do believe they already implemented the "image with random letters inside" and make you type the word, when you sign up.

  46. Junis goes Linux by sosume · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Oh boy I hope this is not a hoax like this article featuring Junis and his Commodore 64 with TCP/IP by our all-beloved JonKats

    (yes I know I misspelled his name. There's nothing I can do about that, can I now)

  47. Re:Afgani Tech Sector by felonious · · Score: 1

    If all humans are equal then why do some have it all and some have nothing at all? Certainly the ones with everything should help the have nots right?

    WRONG...they could give a shit

    Only on a cellular level are we even close to being equal but if you factor in the genetic mutants and such there is nothing that makes us all equal. If anything we are the antithesis of your entire statement personified to the max.

    In a prefect worl we are all equals.

    It just so happens this world isn't perfect...

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  48. Re:Most. Bannal. Comment. Ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your drearily commonplace and often predictable misspelling aside...

  49. Re:So do we have to start calling them GNU/Taliban by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Richard "Muad'dib" Stallman could not be reached for comment.

  50. Cause and effect by Compact+Dick · · Score: 4, Funny
    For the first time, 11 people were trained in Linux in Kabul.
    ...who promptly unleashed a distributed GNAA crapflood attack on a popular geek website, Slahdot.
    1. Re:Cause and effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod this post down "-1, redundant", because of comment #6440495.

    2. Re:Cause and effect by bersl2 · · Score: 1

      For the first time, 11 people were trained in Linux in Kabul.

      Excuse me, but isn't that supposed to be GNAA/Linux?

  51. This is just an intelligence move by the CIA by Sagarian · · Score: 4, Funny

    so they can set up a distributed worm that searches for /bin/laden

  52. Darl, where art thou? by tobocop · · Score: 0

    Well, how long until Darl McBride screams:
    "Osama bin Torvalds, I'll bomb you the hell out of Afghanistan!"

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  53. I've got a new term for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    New Term -
    ADS: Absolute Dick Shit
    definition: Someone who complains about being unfairly moderated.

    Instead of complaining, work the system. Massage the system. The moderation system sucks. Look at the crap that's getting modded up. You can join it too. You just have to post more good sounding crap.
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    1. Re:I've got a new term for you by felonious · · Score: 1

      ADS? Come on can't you do better than that?
      Absolute dick shit?

      I'm just so misunderstood...

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    2. Re:I've got a new term for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I can do better than that, but that was classic, unoriginal and worthless flamebaiting. Don't read too much into it.

      You're not misunderstood, it's just that the moderation system sucks. One needs to seriously look at what is moderated up and down here. Personally, I like to browse at -1, nested. I do my own moderating (It's called skip over something I don't like). And when I have moderator points, I search for the comments that have been missed, overlooked, or abused. And when I metamoderate, almost everything get rated unfair because there is very little actual _genuine_ worthwhile stuff that is said on slashdot.

    3. Re:I've got a new term for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah, forgot one thing. Your comment wasn't very funny. It was too long, and too energetic. Funny is short, and usually one-liner. Any longer, it looks like a serious post.

      And goatse.cx is never rated funny.

  54. Next On Slashdot... by MixMiesterT · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCO sues Afganistan!

    1. Re:Next On Slashdot... by edunbar93 · · Score: 2, Funny

      SCO sues Afganistan...

      Into the stone age!

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    2. Re:Next On Slashdot... by ghum · · Score: 1

      Afghanistan did withstand Britain many years; they withstood Soviet Union many years; they survived Taliban; they even survived US military attacks.

      Do you think they would fear SCO?

    3. Re:Next On Slashdot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > they even survived US military attacks.

      They most certainly did not! I remember them, defying US requests to surrended bin Laden, laughing and relaxing in the sun. Boots on the other foot now, isn't it mr stoneage nazi?

    4. Re:Next On Slashdot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Into the stone age!

      I hear that Afgavistan has developed a lawsuit that on detonation can suck all the patents out of a 500-foot radius.

      That will certainly be useful trying to locate teh remaining SCO FUD warriors hiding in the caves of utah.

  55. Linux perfect for further development.. Iraq also? by Groote+Ka · · Score: 4, Interesting
    IMHO, this is a good start. Not only from a cost point of view it's a good idea to provide third world countries with Linux. The learning effect of tinkering with the (open) source provides a wonderful learning opportunity for the folks out there.

    Next question is what is going to happen in Iraq. Will Linux be distributed or have closed source software giants learned from this part of development and are the now lobbying with 'The Authority' to have Windows deployed all over Iraq?

  56. Netaid by rf0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The UN actuall postivly encourage it. Via Netaid the UN setup a group of voulenteers who provide OSS based advice on people out in the field. Its worth looking over there just to see what you can offer

    Rus

  57. Why Linux? Some thought on possible reasons. by WegianWarrior · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or even, why Open Source Software? I can see several possible reasons for the particular choice of operatingsystem they have picked to train the afgans in.

    Linux is essesially free off charge (if you pick the right distros), which means that the UN and the afgan goverment can spend their money on other things than buying lisences for the OS we all love to hate.

    Linux (and most other OSS) are not tied to a particular country of origin. Face it folks, both OS X, the various flavours of Windows and many of the commercial *nix belong to corpetations based in the US, and the US has managed to make itself less than popular with the UN lately.

    You can still get support for distrebutions of Linux that can and will run on older machines, like 386s and 486s. Thus it is possible to run the infrastructure on the hardware that is already present in the country, instead of forcing them to invest in the latest and greatest from Intel or AMD.

    Stability may be an issue. Linux has a reputation for beeing more stabel than a certain other OS, and it is certainly less likely to catch a virus. Thus money can be saved on support.

    Overall, I think the monetary considerations are the most important here - while the chance to kick the US on the leg may be a (happy) coincidence. And off course, the other question is; Do MicroSoft or Apple even provide a local flavour of their operatingsystems?

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    1. Re:Why Linux? Some thought on possible reasons. by Oggust · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Also, it's actually possible to get linux into the country without violating any EULAs. Pretty much every piece of commercial software I've seen have that little bit about how you're not allowed to export it into any of the T7 countries or afghanistan. (some of them say "taliban controlled areas", so I guess those are OK)

      They should of course change now, but many of them still contain afghanistan.

      /August

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    2. Re:Why Linux? Some thought on possible reasons. by edunbar93 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or maybe, just maybe, it's a unix-like operating system that works wonders for building infrastructure?

      Using it to control and automate things like power stations and fresh water reservoirs, for instance.

      Not to mention banks.

      Things that were being done 20 years ago in the US by big iron mainframes that cost $180,000, plus $10,000 for the OS itself, which can now be outdone many times over by systems costing $300 and $0 for the OS.

      There's little or no need to use hardware as crufty as a 486 anymore, when you can get a system a cheap as this.

      Things in developing countries are typically done on the cheap, but are often newer technology than the legacy systems Americans continue to use (because it was state of the art years ago and would cost too much to bring back up to the state of the art again).

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    3. Re:Why Linux? Some thought on possible reasons. by ngyahloon · · Score: 1

      The posibility of developing people who already hate US to hate microsoft will most likely result in more attacks on M$ in the near future

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    4. Re:Why Linux? Some thought on possible reasons. by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

      Actually, walk down the streets on any given garbage night and you can find all sorts of perfectly "usable" machines for gratis. Considering that we're looking at ways to dispose of those machines, I'm sure that Afghanistan and other rebuilding countries could put them to good use (what good is QuakeIII when you don't have reliable electricity? Build the infrastructure first, the entertainment/hobby aspect comes later). Sure, $300 is cheap (but how much to ship to Afghanistan?), but consider that you can ship a whole pallet-load of used/old machines for less and suddenly you free up $300.

      Also, some of these guys just finished training. Many may not have extensive hardware troubleshooting knowledge (I didn't RTFA, sorry. :( ), so handing them a pallet-load of questionable computers and under the guidance of a veteran tech could prove invaluable for "kick-starting" their hardware troubleshooting skills. I found that when I did telephone tech support that the odd times that I was allowed to help the customer, I learned so much because you just get so many problems thrown at you in a short amount of time. If you're a good tech, you learn to fix problems. You just can't get that kind of experience dorking with just your computer at home (hence, the typical "My computer doesn't have that problem so I can't help you" responses you get on a lot of tech forums.. Not to mention the "You should use another distro" jerks).

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  58. It's a good start... by jromz03 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ... for them to learn IT and what better way than through Linux. Maybe in the future we will see Afgani people posting here on /.


    Things can only look up for them.

  59. Re:DON'T WASTE MOD POINTS ON THIS GNAA SPAMMER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, but how about every time you post you have to do that?

  60. UN Webpage or Geocities Pagebuilder? by Culturejammer · · Score: 1

    How about we get some web developers over there, geez...

  61. Last thing, I swear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And about the smiley. The inventor of the smiley (forgot his name, search Google for "smiley inventor") had a dilemma when he invented it. If the humor is funny, it shouldn't need a smiley. This is like reading a funny book. If it's good, you can tell it's funny. Smileys are for added emphasis.

    1. Re:Last thing, I swear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why American TV sitcoms need a laughtrack. If they were funny they wouldn't need one.

  62. Re:Afgani Tech Sector by Kosi · · Score: 1

    I can tell you: It's fucked up, GWB declared the americans more equal than anyone else.

  63. See what happens when you give Afghanis Linux? by [cx] · · Score: 0

    Damn the GNAA!

  64. Re:DON'T WASTE MOD POINTS ON THIS GNAA SPAMMER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then Slashdot needs to ban the entire netblock, gather together every IP that was used to crapflood with, and then submit it all to abuse@netblockowner.net and let them LART the dumb fucker.

  65. IN SOVIET RUSSIA... by raehl · · Score: 1, Funny

    I've got nothing. Nevermind.

  66. Yeah but... by jeeryg_flashaccess · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...a press release from Microsoft cleared up many pre-war allegations. Most interesting was the following:

    "This just proves that no WMA will be found in Iraq."

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  67. Was Osama One of the Eleven? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i wonder.......

  68. Troll? by Zemran · · Score: 1

    I sometimes find it hard to accept that otherwise intelligent people can see a good bit of humour as a troll. I was considering writing a longer version in the same vein myself as I see a parallel between the Linux zealots and the muslim zealots. Yet people here put this down in the same light as the GNAA crap. No wonder so many resort to rubbish like that if good comment is treated in this way.

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  69. trained in Linux?? by 1s44c · · Score: 0

    11 people were trained in Linux in Kabul.

    Good linux people are not trained.

    If you want to train a linux person give them a computer and a book and wait. Some will get it, some won't.
    Even the book is optional with info and man pages.

    How many linux people here have had any kind of linux 'training' at all ?

  70. Re:Linux perfect for further development.. Iraq al by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Not only from a cost point of view it's a good idea to provide third world countries with Linux


    Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. etc. are NOT third-world countries. That's a political ploy pedalled by American politicians to justify why they're maiming and slaughtering people who don't look them and don't think like them.
  71. Web Server and O/S by chris_sawtell · · Score: 1
    Netcraft says:-


    The site www.undp.org.af is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 behind a computer running Solaris 8.

    What a pity!

  72. Re:Linux perfect for further development.. Iraq al by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

    lobbying with 'The Authority' to have Windows deployed all over Iraq?

    I think that it's absolutely essential to have Windows deployed all over Iraq.

    So many windows were broken during the war, and now there's a glass shortage there. Windows to the people! Keep the blowing sand out of homes!

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  73. A message from Kabul by stud9920 · · Score: 1
  74. That's Slashdot by nzyank · · Score: 1

    You're assuming that the people here are otherwise intelligent. Get used to it. Say good things about Linux and you're insightful, say something good about Windows and you're flamebaiting or trolling. Say something stupid and you're insightful. Say something funny as hell like this guy did and you're trolling. My kharma's gone from positve to bad and back to positive. Now I'm working on the bad kharma again. So easy to manipulate these people. That's about all that keeps me coming back here now.

  75. Why a pity? by nzyank · · Score: 1

    Solaris isn't that bad.

  76. I thought Afghnistanistan already had Linux... by Spunk · · Score: 2, Informative

    Jon Katz wouldn't lie to us!

  77. Compatible, eh? by TrollBridge · · Score: 1
    "Not the fact that Linux is used is important here but the fact that they use a system that can easily be integrated with other computer systems from different companies. "

    ...unless that company is Microsoft.

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  78. Hello from Junis! by Reservoir+Penguin · · Score: 1

    Junis saYS everything is going well, he's really enjoying his new rights that americans brought, including vodka, awsome western music and treating women as sex objects (no more burkas!!) Please contact me if you want to help Hunis with purchase of a new computer so he can too join the linux revolution in Afganistan!

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  79. Kabul Linux Textbooks by skvngrx · · Score: 1

    ClusterKnoppix for Dummies

    Hax0r Y0ur xBOx

    Software and Internet Law (2nd Ed. covering SCO)

  80. we are doomed by bongoras · · Score: 1

    Ahmed, the infidels will surely perish at the hands of our Beowulf Cluster now!

  81. Windows training by Zemran · · Score: 1

    while i9 do
    {reboot;
    if computer_works exit;
    i=i+1}

    beat_user_for_changing_screen_saver_to_blue_scre en ...;

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    1. Re:Windows training by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is something terribly annoying about people who try to crack a joke using code.

      A little like posts started with "*sigh*" - Vastly stupid and wholly pathetic.

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  82. Re:Linux perfect for further development.. Iraq al by Groote+Ka · · Score: 1
    Well, at least they were no third world country. Afghanistan was a highly developped country, untill the Taliban came along (and the Russians did their part of destruction as well, but to a minor extend). Regarding the current state of the country, I think the classification of third world country is under the current circumstances correct for Afghanistan.

    For Iraq, it is questionable, as development varies a lot over the country, just like with India. The latter country qualifies as third world in a lot of cases. Not by the US, but by themselves to get cost cuts at for example the WIPO. Besides that, they are not bound by all GATT and TRIPs regulations.

    With respect to your statement on American politics: I am a European and do not now all the nuts and bolts of the US politics. However, quite some documentaries have been broadcasted about the already very old plan of Donald R. and his pal Wolfowitz. It's about the oil, stupid, not about the looks. And well... "don't think like them" will have played a role as well.

    Going back to the topic again from this part: I wonder when Steve Ballmer will visit Iraq and Paul Bremer, in case he hasn't already been there.

  83. Re:DON'T WASTE MOD POINTS ON THIS GNAA SPAMMER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Blind people would love it.

  84. Re:Afgani Tech Sector by fusion812 · · Score: 1

    It went out slighty before 2.2

  85. How long before ... by Blitzshlag · · Score: 1

    The remaining 5 software jobs in the US get outsourced to Afganistan?

  86. I didn't know... by DChristensen · · Score: 1

    Linux had been ported to Jon Katz's boy's C64. Impressive...

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  87. Linux comes to afghanistan...... by pauly_thumbs · · Score: 1

    ....Taliban surrenders after 3 replies to questions : RTFM n00b l4merz

  88. What about nearly-free hardware to match? by frostman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I love the idea of propagating Linux and other free software in poor areas.

    But I wonder what the options are for extremely-low-cost hardware to match?

    If you consider that there's a lot of gov't bureaucratic infrastructure to build up, and not much public (international) money to support it, Linux et al are the obvious answer. Linux experts volunteering to do training are the next logical component.

    How cheap could decent computers be bought to round out the picture?

    I don't mean as in "Dell, give us freebies." I mean, could we get together good cheap PCs for US$100 including shipping? Or US$???howmany? What if you bought in Taiwan?

    I'd love to see some charity/not-too-corrupt-NGO make a website where you could buy a computer for the department of your choice in the poor country of your choice. You could opt to keep in touch with its users as well, if there's a common language between you. Dellpaqarcdbmitsu and the like would of coure be welcome to help.

    Anybody seen such a thing yet?

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    1. Re:What about nearly-free hardware to match? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Have you heard of the Simputer?

      Also, Linux 2.6 will support CPUs that have no memory-management unit (MMU). Since these CPUs are cheaper, maybe someone will create a very cheap handheld based on Linux 2.6

  89. More training needed, Batman! by twitter · · Score: 1
    From the UNDP page:

    "!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN" "hmpro6.dtd""

    "html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40""

    From the Netaid page:

    BEGIN WEBSIDESTORY CODE v7.4.0 (no 1.0)--> !-- COPYRIGHT 1997-2001 WEBSIDESTORY, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. U.S.PATENT No. 6,393,479 B1. Privacy notice at: http://websidestory.com/privacy

    Patented code? Oh well, at least they are running Linux. www.undp.org.af is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 behind a computer running Solaris 8. . Nothing says backward like Microsoft. Netaid and the spirit of the UNDP are encouraging. Knowledge penetrates where formerly there was naught but binary CDs! Who knows, now they are not Taliban Occupied, they might even get mirror sites.

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  90. SCO's going to love the BBC's take on this by Rogerborg · · Score: 1

    "Linux, built upon the venerable Unix operating system, is the creation of Linus Torvalds"

    So the OS is linux (not KDE/GNOME/X/GNU/Linux), and it's a rip off of Unix. That should push RMS's blood pressure a bit higher, and get the SCO lawyers rubbing their paws in glee. It's hard to refute their FUD when your boss has just read the BBC and seen this. "But linux must be ripping off Unix! The BBC couldn't publish it if it wasn't true!". Oh dear.

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  91. ok, how about moving bits around? radio! by drwho · · Score: 1

    In addition to the lack of information systems infrastructure, and more importantly, there is a lack of communications infrastructure. While there's no doubt that some big company (Worldcom?) who is friends of the Bush2 administration (like Halliburton) will get a multi-billion dollar contract to build a fiber network some time in the next couple of years, what does afganistan do RIGHT NOW?

    Thomas Sailor wrote 'soundmodem' drivers for linux years back. These, used with other modules such as AX.25, allow for a medium distance (up to 200 miles) but low speed (9600 bps half duplex) link for CHEAP. An old Pentium 90 system is free in the US, so if they can be carted to afganistan cheaply, cost is no problem. VHF/UHF radio gear can be junked old Motorola (and other mfgrs) commercial/police radios which are reliable and available for almost nothing in the US, again the problem is carting the to afganistan. Antennas can be made out of wire.

    of course I can't neglect 802.11b, as the throughput is much higher. But the distance is lower, and putting amplifiers and large antennas on 802.11b gear, and getting antennas at a decent height and aimed correctly, makes it more ambitious a project. But the great thing with 802.11b is you could have many VoIP telephone conversations going on at the same time.

    The largest problem, as I see it, is power. I don't know what the electrical situation is there but I am sure it is pretty bad. I suppose there could be solar and wind power, but photovoltaic cells in particular are expensive and very likely to be stolen. Maybe just wind power then, made from junked automobile alternators. And bicycle power for an emergency.

    Yeah, we can rebuild Afganistan. Now, how about Buffalo?

    1. Re:ok, how about moving bits around? radio! by ZPO · · Score: 1

      More than likely you'll see solutions coming in stages.

      1 - Very fragile and formative stage with various networks deployed by US organizations (civil and military) and international NGOs

      -- HF radio networks (Voice and PACTOR/SITO)
      -- Data modem use in areas that have a semi-working telephone system and some surviving wirelines

      This is the system that will be the springboard for further development

      2 - Initial efforts at restoring the PSTN.

      -- Installing/repairing satellite ground stations for international commercial connectivity
      -- A few international cable routes coming back on-line
      -- Kabul and a couple other cities get some primary telephone exchanges rebuilt
      -- Some type of national microwave network get s started up. Probably digital
      -- Initial wireline data at decent speeds

      This will leave large areas of the country without service and you'll see the HF/VHF networks pushing out towards the fringes. The wireline dedicated data network that starts here will be conceived as a small project and be horrendously overloaded and more popular than ever imagined.

      3 - The initial real national infrastructure

      -- Fiber routes are laid along road routes connecting major cities as the roads are rebuilt. (hopefully they can do all the rip/tear at one time)
      -- Microwave routes start heading out to the less populated areas.
      -- Cellular networks start getting rebuilt and offer more than regional connectivity.
      -- Someone realizes the data network needs to be rethought and rebuilt ......................

      It goes on from there. I hope we don't see any national level patchwork of consumer grade equipment. While an interesting hobby project these folks need a real national communications infrastructure. Once that is in place you'll start seeing the less adventurous NGOs move in.

  92. bah by rocnar · · Score: 1

    They were doing just fine with the Commodore 64s they had stashed away!

  93. It seems to me.. by caveat · · Score: 1
    Afghanistan needs Linux right now the way Apu needs banana bread:

    OUTDOORS - STREET CORNER, KABUL. A MERCHANT is standing in front of a bombed-out store while a GEEK shows off the Linux laptop he has brought over.
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    GEEK: I noticed you had your hands full with this devastation...so I put together this rad Linux system!
    MERCHANT: Oh Hallelujah! Our problems are solved, we have Linux!
    :::
    GEEK: Well..maybe you should get an assistant..
    MERCHANT: And what would I pay him with, Linux? Sorry, sorry, it's just that I haven't slept in days, and i'm running out of money and ...LINUX? What the hell were you thinking? Linux... Apologize, apologize again. As a token of forgiveness, please take this baby.
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  94. first bombs, and now this.... by thegnu · · Score: 1

    i feel sorry for all the innocent afghanis who had to live through the US dropping bombs on them, now bill gates. i don't know if bombs are worse, or billions of shiny windows xp home cds.

    without licenses, of course. you think bill's stupid?

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  95. Re:Afgani Tech Sector by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's a terrible worldview to have. Throughout history, those ideas have been used to justify immorally ballanced and polarized society. In the end, even with all this justification, it never works. This is perhaps because when humans work together and share a system of morality, it benefits them collectively.

    As for mutants: is it really their fault? If you had a rare genetic mutation that led to disease, I sure as hell bet you wouldn't be saying that. And yes, it could happen to you. I would probably point and laugh, if it weren't rude and inconsiderate.

    Not all "mutation" is bad, anyway. Most are probably harmless. Some are even productive.

  96. Relatedely.... by marebri · · Score: 2, Informative


    Developing countries (e.g. in Africa) are hardly ever mentioned as opportunities for growth in Linux usage.But they are, I think, some of Open Source's best opportunities.

    Hardly anything is computerized there (in govt.) and when it is, huge and outdated mainframes are used. In many countries, the next few years are likely to see a massive expansion in govt. computer systems. Its up to the few of us Linux users in those coutries to tout to our govts. the benefits of open source and Linux in particular.

    There should be a number of ways to do this, I can think of one that might be done while making a buck or two... Establishing companies that provide open source solutions to govts.and others.

    All in all, I welcome this latest development in Afghanistan, and I hope that other low-tech. developing coutries will go in this directions as they computerize.

  97. And then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Five minutes later, they were trained on how to download all the porn they were missing out on. Who needs the virgins.

  98. Yet more cultural imperialism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead of ramming a Western OS down the throats of the undertrodden Afghan people, we should support them in creating their own operating system; one which respects the unique cultural heritage, identity, and values of Afghanistan.

    This belief that you can simply expect Afghanistan to seamlessly adopt the technology of the imperialist Western world is utterly fallacious. This attempt to push Linux in the third world is the highest form of disrespect imaginable.

  99. Re:Afgani Tech Sector by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, all humans are created equal in the eyes of God. They also have an equal opportunity to succeed or fail. It's government's job to see to it that they have an equal opportunity. It's not government's job to take from those who succeed and give it to those who don't. If taxes were not so fucking high, more successful people would be able to give of their own free will to the losers.

  100. Re:Afgani Tech Sector by felonious · · Score: 1

    Well if someone doesn't believe in God then what's the case? I don't agree with it being the goverment's job to see that a person is successful. It's up to the person. What you are saying just reminds me of socialism and lack of individual responsibility for making the best out of their life.

    Most successful people have their heads so high in the clouds that they wouldn't help anyone no matter what the situation.

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  101. Re:Afgani Tech Sector by felonious · · Score: 1

    It's not a terrible world view. It's a realistic world view. When you say, "This is perhaps because when humans work together and share a system of morality, it benefits them collectively." that much is true but in the real world it's not realistic. We do not live in a state of nirvana nor do we live in a world where people give a damn about strangers. That's just the facts no matter how sad it is.

    This world was built upon survival of the fittest and that usually happens at the weaker person's expense. If someone were to tip toe through life while not wanting to hurt or offend another then we would be no where in terms of productivity and advances in all facets of life.

    When I was referring to mutants I actually meant retarded, cripled, and such. I'm tired of political correctness just so another's feelings aren't hurt. Retarded means slow so just because you or someone else doesn't like the term doesn't mean I can't use it. Yes I could be maimed, cripled, etc. and end up that way but if I was I don't think I'd comprehend much on an intellectual level so call me what you may. Words are just that...words. Nothing more and nothing less. Feel free to point and laugh if I were to ever end up in bad starights because I don't nor will I ever give a damn what someone thinks of me. I live my life full of brutal honesty and I don't concern myself with what other think of me. I do have plenty of friends and family who respect that about me.

    P.S. I never said "mutants, the retarded, or the diseased" are bad. They are all human like you and I just not as lucky. I have empathy for them and if I can help them I do. I'm not calling them names only referring to them in an honest manner.

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  102. Oh Great... by Eric+Damron · · Score: 1

    That's what we need. Linux associated with training camps in Afghanistan!

    In the News Today: Ashcroft had the entire Linux community rounded up and held at an undisclosed location. When asked why they are being held he remarked "These are enemy combatants that have training camps in Afghanistan and are going under a new code name. Linux! We are still trying to locate their leader who calls himself Tux"

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  103. Was Junis one of them?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Was Jon Katz's protege JUNIS one of these people? Did Junis learn to run LINUX on his Commodore 64? Has he figured out how to watch Baywatch on it?

    Jon Katz: Stay away you fraud, we don't miss you!

  104. Re:Linux perfect for further development.. Iraq al by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uh, no. The Soviet Union decimated the country, ruined the cities and economy, along with an incredibly high death toll. The Taliban just picked up part of the pieces in the beginning. A few years later they went downhill again. The Taliban DID ask other countries for economic aid and FOOD for their people, but nobody really cared until they decided to smash some buddha statues.

  105. Re:Afgani Tech Sector by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never said we lived in a spiritual nirvana, and I never said that everyone is selfless towards strangers. I did however imply that a sucessful society needs to have some sort of moral standards, and work together (relatively) decently. A society that commits crimes against its own members, for example, is less sucessful than a society that does not. That is one of many logical and practical reasons why morality, and being humane, is necessary.

    While there is definitely a LOT of truth to "survival of the fittest", I think it is very dangerous and immoral to turn this into a life philosophy. Throughout history, this has been used to "establish" the superiority of one set of genes over others, etc. It's a ridiculous ego game, head trip, whatever.

    We could also use "survival of the fittest" to proclaim ourselves, as human beings, "the fittest", and proceed to eradicate "lesser", "unfit" species. In other words, we would say to other species: "Tough shit, deal. That's how ecology works." That would definitely be bad.

    So, I would say this: let this "survival of the fittest" thing take its course, but don't try to take an active role in it, because you might get burned, burn something else, etc. Also, don't gloat in being "fit" because chances are you won't be at some point. I don't know, am I making sense?

    Your attitude just seems to me... Warped, morally alarming, and on the arrogant side. It reminds me of German "eugenics" during World War II, among other things, and how a little knowledge, or simply thinking you are right, can be a dangerous thing. It's taking a scientific hypothesis, twisting it, and stretching it too thin. Also, a true scientist would know that pretty much every conception we have about what life is could quite possibly be wrong. So to make a whole life-philosophy based on things like this seems a bit iffy. Can you think of how many times in history people have been wrong? Can you think of how many people must have been undercut as a result of this? We are a race of people who have believed in the most ignorant things imaginable, and believed that they are RIGHT. And as a result of these conceptions that we thought were so undeniably RIGHT, we have done things with consequences that are definitely wrong.

    Want some examples? Well, there are far too many to list, or even be aware of, but when writing this, I for some reason thought of Europe in the Dark Ages, which must have been a cesspool of ignorance, an ignorance that probably cost many their lives. Or even a small scale thing, like a misunderstanding between families, anywhere, at any point in time, where each side thought that they were "right", which caused unnecessary tension that could have been avoided, but ended up changling lives for the worse. There have also been countless generations of slaves and peasants, many of whom probably could have done things that were more productive with their lives, if only given the chance. But it was accepted that they were below other classes. Et cetera. These are some examples for why not to assume you a "better", or "right", about anything. I'm sure somebody can come up with much better ones than me.

    But I digress. What you are saying, though, it is something of an extreme. I'm sure you'll agree that extremes are not generally a good thing in ideology.

    Re: mutation: I was thinking of genetic diseases, which are mutations. I was saying that if you had one of those (and I do, albeit a somewhat minor one), you would not be talking about "good genes". You get the genes you get, some people are more of quality X than others, some people are more of some other thing, big deal. I don't mean to sound like some politically correct moron here, but diversity in all aspects of human life is actually pretty cool. Recently, I was pretty sad about something. And I was just thinking about life, and the state of affairs. And for some reason, out of the blue, I pictured a Scandinavian, god knows where, smiling, and wishing me good day i

  106. 7-UP of LINUX. by 5ynPhL00d · · Score: 1

    That's interesting that the UN would pick up LINUX support. It's good, but still surprising. LINUX is a great way to start people on the right track to success, free of restrictions from the likes of Microsoft. Instead, they're only limited (freed?) by the GPL.

    At any rate, it's definitely beneficial to provide them with a low cost solution to get up-to-date in the tech world. You haven't lived on Slashdot until you have abused the moderation system because it is imperfect.


    I hear that the UN has their own distro. UNLINUX...wah wah wah....

  107. Re:Afgani Tech Sector by felonious · · Score: 1

    Well I think you've misunderstood most of what I've said. I summer up what I had previously said by saying I am brutally honest but I also have empathy. You almost acuse me of having genocidal thoughts but how can one think in that manner and still have empathy? I'm sure there are cases of that happening but I for one do not fit that stereotype.

    I also stated that I try to help others as much as I can but I will not lower myself to speaking in the politcal correct manner that some are out to convert the world to. Political correctness is on the same level as ebonics and ebonics has long since been dismissed.

    One of the other points I made was if you stop to help those who refuse to help themselves then you are only punishing yourself. If I see someone panhandling I don't give them shit. I used to until I learned more about them. To me helping the homeless isn't about giving money to panhandlers so they can get drunk and further their cause of self loathing. I buy and donate food during the holidays for these people. That is helping and that is helping your fellow man...in my off time:D

    I used to spend a lot of time trying to help and care more but it was usually met with thanklessness and/or ambivalence. I wasn't looking for mass media coverage of what I did but seeing the person you are helping not give a shit is bullshit. If they can't appreciate it then fuck 'em...I don't care. Those who do appreciate then they'll get more help from me...the rest are dead to me.

    If you want a current cesspool of ignorance then just visit beautiful India and it's Caste System. Unless it's recently changed if you're born a peasant you stay one for life and no one cares. Funny how our tech sector is gravitating towards India yet I doubt the American companies involved aren't doing anything to better the lives of the peasants...not even in their off time.

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  108. Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    For the first time, 11 people were trained in Linux in Kabul. This training was supported by UNDP as a broader program to build capacity in use of computer technologies.

    After which, the US Air Force bombed them?

  109. Wow by ShoeHead · · Score: 1

    I wish I could put everyone who's posted on this topic as a foe. What is wrong with you people?