Yea just like how the world got all better when they shipped the vb runtime with the OS right? What a idiot why do you thing things are suddenly going to get great when they ship.not with the OS, have no fear it will be hosed like the VB fiasco. It is shit like that, that caused me to look at Linux now I don't give a hairy rats what MS does.
Well it is pretty damn simple really, Sun can do the same and pull free java any time it wants. Depending on non free sofware places you in a vulnerable position that is totally unecessary.
Look like we have somebody here that does not respect privacy....anyone have MOG's home address and phone number....publish it to every corner of the web.
Ok I am game I give them a mepis cd and you can surely bet they will be up and running before they get to the first graphical screen in the xp install. I have installed xp from scratch and it is no where even close to as easy as it is to install mepis. I admin in a mixed environment and saying windows is easier to use for the average user is just plain BS. Linux is different but clicking a icon in the menu has the same effect in both systems.
But hey to each their own keep cheering on your rental software.
I can tell you that I know some of the most moronic people in the world that I have set up with linux and they use it everyday without a problem. I also run a manufacturing floor 400+ desktops and get maybe one call a week so take your crap and spout it to somebody that will believe it.
Actually you should be flogged in public for letting your poor parents use windows because last time I checked I had none of those things on my linux box. Those that choose to run windows when better systems exist deserve everything they get.
She came home the other night and proceeded to tell me how they cut some teachers hours so they could meet budget constraints. Now if I was one of those teachers I would be pointing both barrels at the school administrator with my finger dead on the IT budget. Cutting teachers hours just so some bone head can keep using their MS malware is just unacceptable.
Hey yes it may have not been a smart thing to do for Tridge to rock the boat like that but I fully defend his right to do so. Nobody has the right to tell Tridge that he could not do it, was it smart probably not but I am fully behind him. We must have the right to reverse engineer, Larry tried to take this right away but it did not work. Not a big deal Larry now get's coded out of existence like all those before him.
Man it aint like it would be hard to exploit half the computers on the internet. Most of them run windows and it is dead easy to get anything you want off of them. The only thing stopping me from doing so is the law and the desire not to be some big hairy dudes bed partner for 10 years.
We currently are running a mixed environment with about 300 thin client desktops and about 15 servers. We have had a redhat support contract for the last 3-4 years but in that period of time I have never called them even once. I would drop the support but it makes the big dog's happier to actually have to pay for something....bottom line is the servers and workstations have a perfect uptime record and maintenance is not even 1% of our windows environment. Let them right what they want those of us that know and use it get the competitive advantage. Now granted I consider myself a top notch linux admin but I don't make any more money that anyone else.
Bottom line I do not want our competitors to use linux it is our advantage that we can.
I guess freedom is actually way more important than function now isn't it.... Had the developers not fallen into the non-free trap a alternative would have already existed by now do to need.
Soon as the qt windows free version starts shipping I think we will see alot of renewed development of gui stuff in python. Currently wxwindows exists but it is a little funky to program in if you ask me. A good industrial strength redily available qt is going to move alot of things.
It is a great language we use it for everything, web services, linux / win integration, nt services, automation etc.
No but I as a software developer cannot create the program for you to read or write that format without violating a patent. It is a catch 22 situation sure you can use it for whatever you want but I cannot create the tools for you to do so.
Nobody doubts that Google is a way better search engine but the reality is that MS is gonna bundle the hell out of MSN search. The first few browsers MS put out sucked too but everyone used them because it was bundled....It does not have to be better it just has to be good enough....
Come on get real google has the largest looming threat of it's corporate life on the horizon one from which they will not survive unless they take serious action right now. When MS releases longhorn and their new browser I fully expect that MSN search is gonna be wound into everything they can put it in. This will have the same exact effect that it had on netscape certain death. The only way to avoid this and have any chance to compete is to push firefox like mad, push firefox specific features, xul etc... In effect they have to push their own version of firefox as a platform if they are to survive.... But it may already be too late..
I love FF and Google but they are about to fall into the same mistake as others before them by not responding to the threat.
I bet if your stupid ass rode a bike you would have loud pipes as well. We have loud pipe so idiots much as yourself can damn sure hear us comming. I cannot tell you how many times I have narrowly escaped serious injury or death because somebody turned in front of me or ran me off the frigging road while changing lanes.
I got a warning ticket for loud pipes last year and guess what I still ain't putting the damn baffles in them.
Then the cop that gave me the ticket said he doesn't like loud pipes because we cannot hear emergency vehicles. I told him to stick his head out his squad car at 70mph and tell me what he can heear with all the wind blowing past his ears.
Yep I agree with you a hundred percent. We are less than a year away from google getting the major smack down when they incorporate msn search into windows and the browser. The only way out of this problem is for google to push firefox hard and hope for some huge uptake. The firefox team needs to concentrate really hard on making it easy to build, use , deploy xul apps. The platform must be leveraged if not firefox and google are gonna go down in flames just as those before them have.
Actually I work in Wausau in marathon county and I would say you are entirely full of shit. If you want broadband it is more than available even in the little outlying little towns and the country via wireless as well. Nearly the entire county is serviced by two wireless providers. Hell I live in a little town 35 miles away population 900 and got a 3MB cable connection. Sorry to hear about the AS400 and db2 junk we got state of the art everything and running nearly 400 linux machines.
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Yea just like how the world got all better when they shipped the vb runtime with the OS right? What a idiot why do you thing things are suddenly going to get great when they ship .not with the OS, have no fear it will be hosed like the VB fiasco. It is shit like that, that caused me to look at Linux now I don't give a hairy rats what MS does.
Lets just put a stop to the java zeolots right here and now...
If you cannot package and distribute the application
"with the JVM" it is not and never will be free.
I happen to like java, but I sure would never use it in something I was gonna distribute.
Well it is pretty damn simple really, Sun can do the same and pull free java any time it wants. Depending on non free sofware places you in a vulnerable position that is totally unecessary.
That is exactly what it looks like, a windows executable installer launched off of a web page with unknow origin.
Look like we have somebody here that does not respect privacy....anyone have MOG's home address and phone number....publish it to every corner of the web.
Ok I am game I give them a mepis cd and you can surely bet they will be up and running before they get to the first graphical screen in the xp install. I have installed xp from scratch and it is no where even close to as easy as it is to install mepis. I admin in a mixed environment and saying windows is easier to use for the average user is just plain BS. Linux is different but clicking a icon in the menu has the same effect in both systems.
But hey to each their own keep cheering on your rental software.
I can tell you that I know some of the most moronic people in the world that I have set up with linux and they use it everyday without a problem. I also run a manufacturing floor 400+ desktops and get maybe one call a week so take your crap and spout it to somebody that will believe it.
Actually you should be flogged in public for letting your poor parents use windows because last time I checked I had none of those things on my linux box. Those that choose to run windows when better systems exist deserve everything they get.
She came home the other night and proceeded to tell me how they cut some teachers hours so they could meet budget constraints. Now if I was one of those teachers I would be pointing both barrels at the school administrator with my finger dead on the IT budget. Cutting teachers hours just so some bone head can keep using their MS malware is just unacceptable.
Hmmm seems to work just fine for me and I am running 450 of them
Hey yes it may have not been a smart thing to do for Tridge to rock the boat like that but I fully defend his right to do so. Nobody has the right to tell Tridge that he could not do it, was it smart probably not but I am fully behind him. We must have the right to reverse engineer, Larry tried to take this right away but it did not work. Not a big deal Larry now get's coded out of existence like all those before him.
Man it aint like it would be hard to exploit half the computers on the internet. Most of them run windows and it is dead easy to get anything you want off of them. The only thing stopping me from doing so is the law and the desire not to be some big hairy dudes bed partner for 10 years.
We currently are running a mixed environment with about 300 thin client desktops and about 15 servers. We have had a redhat support contract for the last 3-4 years but in that period of time I have never called them even once. I would drop the support but it makes the big dog's happier to actually have to pay for something....bottom line is the servers and workstations have a perfect uptime record and maintenance is not even 1% of our windows environment. Let them right what they want those of us that know and use it get the competitive advantage. Now granted I consider myself a top notch linux admin but I don't make any more money that anyone else.
Bottom line I do not want our competitors to use linux it is our advantage that we can.
I guess freedom is actually way more important than function now isn't it.... Had the developers not fallen into the non-free trap a alternative would have already existed by now do to need.
Soon as the qt windows free version starts shipping I think we will see alot of renewed development of gui stuff in python. Currently wxwindows exists but it is a little funky to program in if you ask me. A good industrial strength redily available qt is going to move alot of things.
It is a great language we use it for everything, web services, linux / win integration, nt services, automation etc.
No but I as a software developer cannot create the program for you to read or write that format without
violating a patent. It is a catch 22 situation sure you can use it for whatever you want but I cannot create the tools for you to do so.
Wow the just patented the network startup scripts
on unix machines.
You might be mad but joe six pack is gonna just say ok I will use msn search from now on...It does not
have to be better just good enough.
Nobody doubts that Google is a way better search engine but the reality is that MS is gonna bundle the hell out of MSN search. The first few browsers MS put out sucked too but everyone used them because it was bundled....It does not have to be better it just has to be good enough....
Come on get real google has the largest looming threat of it's corporate life on the horizon one from which they will not survive unless they take serious action right now. When MS releases longhorn and their new browser I fully expect that MSN search is gonna be wound into everything they can put it in. This will have the same exact effect that it had on netscape certain death. The only way to avoid this and have any chance to compete is to push firefox like mad, push firefox specific features, xul etc... In effect they have
to push their own version of firefox as a platform if they are to survive.... But it may already be too late..
I love FF and Google but they are about to fall into the same mistake as others before them by not responding to the threat.
Sure you do I would love to see you get caught letting air outta someones bike tires, I could pick up what is left of you in a tea cup.
I bet if your stupid ass rode a bike you would have loud pipes as well. We have loud pipe so idiots much as yourself can damn sure hear us comming. I cannot tell you how many times I have narrowly escaped serious injury or death because somebody turned in front of me or ran me off the frigging road while changing lanes.
I got a warning ticket for loud pipes last year and guess what I still ain't putting the damn baffles in them.
Then the cop that gave me the ticket said he doesn't like loud pipes because we cannot hear emergency vehicles. I told him to stick his head out his squad car at 70mph and tell me what he can heear with all the wind blowing past his ears.
Yep I agree with you a hundred percent. We are less than a year away from google getting the major smack down when they incorporate msn search into windows
and the browser. The only way out of this problem is for google to push firefox hard and hope for some huge uptake. The firefox team needs to concentrate really hard on making it easy to build, use , deploy
xul apps. The platform must be leveraged if not firefox and google are gonna go down in flames just as those before them have.
Actually I work in Wausau in marathon county and I would say you are entirely full of shit. If you want broadband it is more than available even in the little outlying little towns and the country via wireless as well. Nearly the entire county is serviced by two wireless providers. Hell I live in a little town 35 miles away population 900 and got a 3MB cable connection. Sorry to hear about the AS400 and db2 junk we got state of the art everything and running nearly 400 linux machines.