Then people that use and love Debian should stop recommending it when people ask about Linux.
I've seen this happen tons of time on campus - someone who has just heard of Linux will ask about it and they are recommended Debian as RedHat is scarfed at by the long time debian users.
which will be great cause when if it gets to court then SearchKing should have a fun time explaining why their ranking is so high and not low as the suit stated.
steam blows over, their ranking falls, lather, rinse, repeat
There is also a UT mod named StrikeForce http://www.strikeforcecenter.com. It is similar to CS and TacOps, but has the jump limitations - in other words they players have to be advanced 12 year olds to play - can't just bunny hop all over the place.
I used to watch the stuff that came across the alt.binaries.3d.bryce group, but it seemed everyone used it to import other models into and place them around water scenes. Don't think anyone could make a decent landscape with it if they tried.
1 - true, which is why I also mentioned dialup. However, the people I am thinking of and have had this conversation with are more than capable of affording broadband. I'm not applying these statements to everyone, just the people in my neighboorhood.
When they bitch about speed, number 1 becomes non-sensical. #3 like you said is a pain in the ass.
I've talked to quite a few people who complain about AOL, but when asked why they don't get a cable modem, or a dialup ISP they start spouting all sorts of reasons such as
The cost of an ISP
don't want a second phone line
don't want to loose their e-mail address
don't know much about computers
Not really sensical arguments, but when they start giving answers like that it's hard to get through.
Also, where I work, one of our techs had AOL before starting here. Even after having our dial-ups (free) and our T1, he still kept his AOL for a year or two - would even connect to it over our T1 connection.
Security problems exists - it may or may not be worse in Linux than windows...keep your systems updated regardless.
C'mon...this was nothing but flamebait - nothing news worthy there at all.
About the only telling thing is the top line about MS turning towards spending $$$ towards security - perhaps that includes buying blurbs like this saying Linux ain't perfect either.
Don't forget that according to the earlier article you will now need to pay extra for that tight ship - otherwise you get the submarine with the screen door.
You are both assuming that all accidents are caused by talking on cel-phones.
Aside from those, DUI's, playing with CD's, etc... sometimes shit just happens - deer runs across the highway, wet patch, hydroplaning, blind spots, blowout, etc...
While some of those may have more blame assingment than others, many of them are true accidents.
BTW - Read Raymond Feist's books - in one of them there is the perfect punishment. The evil queen person ties someone to some stakes with their genitals over top of an ant hill and pours on honey.
C'mon...the snmp one should be thrown off the unix list. Winders has snmp, and network devices have snmp. Just because you can do snmp stuff with Unix doesn't make it a unix vulnerability anymore than a windows one.
As for userid's and passwords - I've seen equally week NT setups - even more common for people to use no passwords on NT, since Win clients are connecting. As for tracking what a user is doing - ps anyone? Lets see you track what an authenticated user can do with RPC on a windows network.
I was thinking as I was stuck in traffic on the way to work... how long until someone has a wreck on the interstate, mangles traffic and what was normally a 20 minute commute took 70 minutes.
And how long until that person gets sued by someone who was late for a meeting and lost a contract or something?
The suit you mention is similar, except that the companies were probably paying them for service.
cost of recording studio time? cost to have an office to sign contracts (and make indentured music servants)? cost of advertising?
It's not as simple as just charging for the plastic and paper that make the CD. Though I seriously doubt it is anywhere near $14 or whatever CD's are going for today - I usually just make an xmas list for the family as ideas and get my music once a year.
I can find some odd stuff at the local stores - and those are just the employees;) good people.
But I think what helps them is the used CD's. They may pay me $2-4 for a CD and resell it for $8. Hopefully that'll help support them for also promoting local and non mainstream stuff.
One might argue this rips off the musician - sorry they won't get their $0.50, but hell...most of the stuff I'm shopping for you can't find on the shelves anymore anyway.
There are a few obscure, non-mainstream bands I like - and I try to buy the CD's right from their website if possible, hoping it'll generate max revenue.
Same as above with used books, except it's hard to buy the book straight from the author.
Sadly I was trying to install RH on a 386 and a 486 notebook. None of them had the resources to let me install (no cd drive, not enough ram for a network install). Nice little conundrum.
But if he is trying to show people the value of open source, then vnc would be great. See...with this open source program you can now access you machine remotely. For free.
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And what does that fiber channel plug into? A box with a fiber channel interface to the external world and a RAID array of SCSI disks inside the box.
Debian is NOT for first time linux users!
Then people that use and love Debian should stop recommending it when people ask about Linux.
I've seen this happen tons of time on campus - someone who has just heard of Linux will ask about it and they are recommended Debian as RedHat is scarfed at by the long time debian users.
which will be great cause when if it gets to court then SearchKing should have a fun time explaining why their ranking is so high and not low as the suit stated.
steam blows over, their ranking falls, lather, rinse, repeat
There is also a UT mod named StrikeForce http://www.strikeforcecenter.com. It is similar to CS and TacOps, but has the jump limitations - in other words they players have to be advanced 12 year olds to play - can't just bunny hop all over the place.
Cause a beowulf cluster of these would really suck!
Simple - Kyocera and Nokia wireless routers
Amen!!! I hate driving in Boston...I think suicide is safer. New York is a dream...nice pretty grid (mostly).
I'm not sure about the T, but with the subway, I wouldn't even bother driving in NYC. Last time I went to Javits it was subway - easy.
THANK YOU!
I used to watch the stuff that came across the alt.binaries.3d.bryce group, but it seemed everyone used it to import other models into and place them around water scenes. Don't think anyone could make a decent landscape with it if they tried.
1 - true, which is why I also mentioned dialup. However, the people I am thinking of and have had this conversation with are more than capable of affording broadband. I'm not applying these statements to everyone, just the people in my neighboorhood.
When they bitch about speed, number 1 becomes non-sensical. #3 like you said is a pain in the ass.
Not really sensical arguments, but when they start giving answers like that it's hard to get through.
Also, where I work, one of our techs had AOL before starting here. Even after having our dial-ups (free) and our T1, he still kept his AOL for a year or two - would even connect to it over our T1 connection.
Must be nicotine levels or something addictive.
Security problems exists - it may or may not be worse in Linux than windows...keep your systems updated regardless.
C'mon...this was nothing but flamebait - nothing news worthy there at all.
About the only telling thing is the top line about MS turning towards spending $$$ towards security - perhaps that includes buying blurbs like this saying Linux ain't perfect either.
Sodium - Saddam ... they sound kinda close when you say them :)
Don't forget that according to the earlier article you will now need to pay extra for that tight ship - otherwise you get the submarine with the screen door.
You are both assuming that all accidents are caused by talking on cel-phones.
Aside from those, DUI's, playing with CD's, etc... sometimes shit just happens - deer runs across the highway, wet patch, hydroplaning, blind spots, blowout, etc...
While some of those may have more blame assingment than others, many of them are true accidents.
BTW - Read Raymond Feist's books - in one of them there is the perfect punishment. The evil queen person ties someone to some stakes with their genitals over top of an ant hill and pours on honey.
C'mon...the snmp one should be thrown off the unix list. Winders has snmp, and network devices have snmp. Just because you can do snmp stuff with Unix doesn't make it a unix vulnerability anymore than a windows one.
As for userid's and passwords - I've seen equally week NT setups - even more common for people to use no passwords on NT, since Win clients are connecting. As for tracking what a user is doing - ps anyone? Lets see you track what an authenticated user can do with RPC on a windows network.
I was thinking as I was stuck in traffic on the way to work ... how long until someone has a wreck on the interstate, mangles traffic and what was normally a 20 minute commute took 70 minutes.
And how long until that person gets sued by someone who was late for a meeting and lost a contract or something?
The suit you mention is similar, except that the companies were probably paying them for service.
Hmmm....that is exactly not what the article was saying...about the 5 year old SGI blowing away the top of the line gamer card in open GL performance.
Hmmm....Ogg no can tell if Zug using new encryption scheme or just no can write.
I'm sure the 867 prefix is in use in most area codes.
Then again, like you said - local. I know in NJ, 17 miles away was a toll call. In GA, half the state is local to me.
I still remember the huge number of rumors as to what was on the other end of that number.
cost of recording studio time? cost to have an office to sign contracts (and make indentured music servants)? cost of advertising?
It's not as simple as just charging for the plastic and paper that make the CD. Though I seriously doubt it is anywhere near $14 or whatever CD's are going for today - I usually just make an xmas list for the family as ideas and get my music once a year.
I can find some odd stuff at the local stores - and those are just the employees ;) good people.
But I think what helps them is the used CD's. They may pay me $2-4 for a CD and resell it for $8. Hopefully that'll help support them for also promoting local and non mainstream stuff.
One might argue this rips off the musician - sorry they won't get their $0.50, but hell...most of the stuff I'm shopping for you can't find on the shelves anymore anyway.
There are a few obscure, non-mainstream bands I like - and I try to buy the CD's right from their website if possible, hoping it'll generate max revenue.
Same as above with used books, except it's hard to buy the book straight from the author.
Sadly I was trying to install RH on a 386 and a 486 notebook. None of them had the resources to let me install (no cd drive, not enough ram for a network install). Nice little conundrum.
Huggies is made by the kimberly-clark corp, luvs by proctor and gamble.
Pampers and Luvs are both made by P&G.
Tide and Cheer are, as you said, both made by P&G as well - along with Bold, Era and Gain.
But if he is trying to show people the value of open source, then vnc would be great. See...with this open source program you can now access you machine remotely. For free.
How about Cygwin? X for Cygwin?
gcc or djgcc or something to let people do free development for windows - kdevelop ported to Win32?
vim!!! (though that may not be a good idea for people who have never seen VI
Does Blender have a win port?
Apache - how to have a safer web server.
VNC - for people who want to do work from home (or abuse works high speed connection)