What dose the ethical ai have to say about being patented? If it turns and says it's own creater os unethical it passes the turner test:) O joke of couse. It should argue the ethics of intelectual property as that is the authors ethics.
The Internet has limited bandwith but will ship small mounts of data almost instantly. The post office has amost unlimited bandwith but insain lag. For example this message is posted from my pda to slashdot in seconds. The same message would take at least three days over the postal network. But if I tried to send the entire contents of my computer over the net it would take a few weeks (for mainnence reasons I erased the mp3s and porn from my system.. already backed up) I could copy everything to cdr and ship it. There is a max load for postal but you'll only see it if your in retail or masproduction and shipping whole batches of refridgeraters or TVs.
The data bandwith of the postal system will continue to increase as long as data storage improves. Internet bandwith has to contend with burrocracy and corprate compacency postsl bandwith dose not.
If SCO's BS works then Apple can play the same game on Microsoft. Don't prove infringment just make wild stupid "but the public won't know better" type clames. After all Apple did give Microsoft the right to use the Mac os look and feel. Or maybe whomever owns BSD today can clame ownership of some key Internet protocalls via todays insain patent system.
Last time I talked to someone about SCO was a Unix admin who was angry at whom ever signed the contract for the system install. The company that sold them the system got to keep root access for themselfs and charged to make changes to the system config.
Face it, if it some source is vital to your company staying competitive, it isn't going to be GPL'd. Only if your selling the software and not giving away (as any and all hardware venders do) When your selling software you want as many people buying your software as possable. Giving it away and worse GPLing the source is counter productive. When you sell HARDWARE you want as many people buying your HARDWARE as possable. Giving away the SOFTWARE that makes it run is a good idea. GPLing the source is even better. Great you have closed source Windows drivers horray for you becouse you can sell to 75% of the market like everyone else. Thats ok but just by GPLing the code they go from 75% to 100%... and byond as hackers and hams find new uses for them. Some hams have reprogrammed some communications hardware to do new things. I'd be neat if a WIFI card can also be a packet modem or a repeater. Maybe even a self contained wifi repeater for those community network projects. Who knows?
Well on the plus side consoles are cheaper than systems with a standard buss and we'd no longer have to worry about the interface buss being the drag. On the negitive side is that the industry dose what Microsoft wants. If Microsoft says "You may not upgrade your hardware" the add on after market dries up and all you have left are chip sets put directly on the mother board no more updating anything.
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Future entry in out'r history books. "It was only 50 years after he died in prison we discovered it was annother relitive" Actually if they got a conviction with DNA evedence he was the guy. But picture your oh say Bill Gates, Clinton,Bush, Linus, ESR or Cmdr Taco and the police arrest you on a partal DNA match. Flash "News famous technology guy arrested for sereal rape and murder of children of both genders". But the arrested party shares NO DNA with the rapist (we keep thinking out tech idols are gods why should we expect they must have human dna...) and during every rape the arrested tech exper can prove he was elsewhere becouse that elsewhere was live on TV for vareous reasons (interviews, Big brother TV shows, Comdex and public clame of innocentce) If it were Bill Gates it'd be in every slashdot sig to ruin the mans life (I hate the product but that dosen't mean he deserves to have his whole life ruined) if it was a Linux or open source rep the Microsofies would ruin his life. Etc
Linux and Windows both have compressed file systems that can be applied to CD rom. Besides making the data disk readable from only one os I see no sereous draw backs to this software solution. So this hardware solution is not OS dependent but it appears to have issues with reguards to other CD rom drives. If someone wanted to they could put the Linux compression in a Windoes driver or add windows compression to Linux. and Mac Os X support should be easy enough.
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The folowing is just as true of Solarus (closed micro kernel) as is of Linux (open monolythic)
This sort of thing is why you need to let end users edit/replace as much code as they can. You can do useless but cool things like this while not being bloated with useless and unwanted 'features' Sealed systems that don't let end users change things around end up having every feature possable in the system and still lack features users want. But when you let them change things (eather by open source or micro kernel) then you get all kinds of funky cool features. Even ones that don't really have any practical application. Oh wait did someone say this will work for brail terminals? Well guess this IS practical after all. But we'd never know that if it wasn't for the ability to replace the X11 system with this funky hack.
Plain and simple they tried to work with Microsoft. Microsoft viewed them as a group of extream Linux zellots (as they'd clame we all are) and simply refused to open a dialog with the team. They wanted to talk with Microsoft about the exploite and what to do about it. Microsoft could have even sent a nasty gram at that time if they so wished but chouse not to do even that much. The team got accused of stuff and failed to establish any sort of dialog contract or business agreement.
Failing to make contact they did the only reasonable thing. The team did not want to enable piracy on the Xbox and the soft mod would do that. The team wanted a reasonable alternitive for installing Linux but Microsoft was under no obligations to comply. It was the openning of contract talks with a laundry list of requests. Being paid? Ok that was was clearly added to be removed later. Microsoft needed to open up with it's own list of offers and requests and arrange a meeting. Like "No more Linux on xbox"
By posting on slashdot you agreed to switch to Linux and mindlessly bash Microsoft. Well no you didn't but it's as if thats what antiLinux types think happends. Gee if you could shrinkwrap a liccens on products. "By buying McDonalds Coffee you agree not to spill it" "By buying this pack of ciggeretts you agree not to oppose the parent companys bid for world domination."
I don't see any such liccens on the outside of the X Box pacaging. "By buying our Nintendo products you agree to install Linux on your X box if you ever get one" Ohhh Um no you actually can't ask any of that. Not legally. At most "No user servicable parts" But that gose with out saying.
I think he is refering to Win 2003 forward as Microsoft plans to include it in the os in all future versions. Or maybe he's having bad luck. Win 98 dosen't crash when IE crashes on me. But Win 98 dose crash requiring a reboot when I use anything employing 3D graphics (obveously defective drivers) But it's just the work puter. I mosrly use it to log into my Linux box at home.
I'm still a bit supprised she got third degree burns needing skin grafts. But I do know some medical and hay an 80 year old woman is going to burn pritty easly.
And my soup is wepons grade before I eat it becouse I'm more able to handle hot water. Not that I'm gona poor hot coffee down my shorts. I'm crazy not stupid.
1. I like to pay cash not credit. 2. Spamazon, one click shopping, Next bad business practace I'm sure Amazon will lead the way. 3. I want the book NOW. 4. I do shop online at sears becpuse of the "pick it up at the store" policy. That way I pay no postage.
I do all my research on the net anyway. But I do prefer to brows the book a bit just to be sure it's what I want so the shrink wrap would suck but it won't stop me from going to the book store.
I'm just repeating and simplfying the parent. Telemarketter is told "You can not call people who don't want to be called" Telemarketter says "Well then I'll use email" In other words "I'll just email the people who don't want to be emailed" As far as TV and postal.. they already do that. The spam is replacing the cold calling. Spam lists are recycled "Do not call" lists. Spammers are under no obligation to respect the wishes of those found on that list. Telemarketters are turnning to email becouse they have no intent to folow any rules.
It's reading between the lines... But the main parent makes a point. The artical dose not come out and say it.
Most banner ad services I've looked at pay per click or per view not per tier of course if your running your own banner server you get paid directly and pay back for ads you don't serve. When your paid per tier your being screwed big time so you realy should go with pay per click. But not all banner agentcys are honnest and many skim or outright refuse to pay. Running your own ad server is no simple task. Micropayments is an elegent solution IF someone can find the right formula. Good luck..
Something that is often believed is that open source develupers are kids and closed sorce seasoned pros. Not even close. Bill Gates started Microsoft out of collage he had no more experence than Linus had when Linus started his kernel. Jim Butterfield (The Commodore 8 bit guru) put out a bunch of public domain in his time. There are programmers who code open source projects becouse they want to code and happy to do so as a break from a nice comfy hardware dev job. Some programmers sell software to pay for collage.
The code is pritty much the same at first but in the commertal environment thats the coder teams job. They'll put off beer night to focus on work. The public never sees the product untill it's polished. The os coder puts out his first working version so others may contribute. It takes longer as they put off coding for beer night, collage or work.
Once the commertal product is done it's chash out and move on. The open source project is NEVER done.
Yes eBay is in effect dictating it's contract to you. In an equal relationship you get to discuss terms and has out what you'll agree to. Also eBay has the power to change it's agreements and you can eather agree or close shop forever. Some businesses use this tactic to scam or shaft business partners. Or they just flat out ignore there own responsabilitys to the contract.
He has never actually used anything but Windows for years. All the Linux clames of innovation are impossable for Windows hence to Bill it must also be impossable for anyone else. Reminds me of the Amiga days when everyone was behind the Amiga by 6 months to 2 years. Now however Windows lags behind everyone by about 5 years. Linux has to fight with systems designed from chip fab to OEM to run Windows and is reasonably successful. What do you think would happen if ONE company stopped making systems based on Windows requirements? I give you MY pc. I assembled it using parts I got at one of those discount computer shows where you buy parts at a discount. Video card: Won't work on windows 95 (I replaced it with a 3D card) TV card (dose not like my 3D card but Linux has a workaround) Scanner (SANE is the only drivers I can find for it) two sound cards (confuses the hell out of Windows) With some hacks Window sorta works a little bit. Not that I care.
True. If IBM had wanted to buy out SCO they would have already started the buy out. If memory serves SCO was saying they were getting bought out by IBM with a folow up story of IBM denying it. But my brains not so good so I could be SCOing[1] it.
[1]Remembering things the way I want them to be instead of how they are.
At this rate SCO is going to be a pritty nasty techno cuss word. Well I say SCOem and that SCOing clame on Linux.
Here is a terrorist threat. Keep reporting made up threats untill the public is numb. Then when a REAL threat appears people ignore it as yet annother chicken little crying "wolf". OmG terrorists in my shorts....
Posability one: Those 'morality' classes are a cover for the 'immoral acts' department you know nothing about. It appears odd to go so far out of the way to make employees squeeky clean unless to hide the real dirt. Posability two: Verison "psst hay buddy come look at our new phone. Go ahead take it" Nextel "Um ok.. thanks" uses phone as paperweight on desk completely unaware it is a prototype. Possability three: Verison planning meeting "Nextel is right how do we get the word out?" "We sue Nextel on a frivilous clame they spied on our service. News carrys it maybe even a Slashdot or Slate story. We lose but the public will talk for months and we have out advertising plus built in.. that's that term those Linux zellots use? FUD? Automatic Fear Uncertanty and Dout about Nextel before our launch."
Roll 6 sided dice... if number is above three then devide by 2
My boss has the cell phone plan where he can get all the phone calls he likes for one flat fee and pays for all outgoing calls ( with so many free minuts ) I attempted to get the handspring visor phone add on module but handspring ran out. The service "I" ordered was free nights and weekends. Thats incomming and outgoing. Outside of nights and weekends I just don't need a cell phone.
I've noticed the cell phone rates for SMS, email and web surfing is stupidly overpriced and not worth it no matter what US calling plan I go with so I left it out. As it is I got a wireless modem for my pda instead and have AIM, email and web browsing with zero limits cheap. No phone but I can live with that.
Poke around you'll find at least one Linux destro that will make you want to return to Microsoft.
I fell in love with a platform a few years back and to spite temptation I've stayed with it. I'm refering to the *nix platform BTW. (As in posix based command line oses) Hehe. Presumming the tech writer came from MsDos to Windows and not from MsBasic to Windows it's likely this person has considerable technical skill. Dos as complex as it is dose discurage programming but encurages tweeking. Windows discurages (and occasionally punishes) tweeking. Posix systems encurage tweeking and programming and hacking at all levels. Sadly that includes black hats.
Windows says "Oh don't worry users can't do that" Linux says "Here's how to do it and how to prevent it and how to thwart that and protect against the twarting."
Oh yeah I hear Linux.com is paying for HOW TOs... In case he's thinking of making a living with posix systems.
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What dose the ethical ai have to say about being patented? :)
If it turns and says it's own creater os unethical it passes the turner test
O joke of couse. It should argue the ethics of intelectual property as that is the authors ethics.
The Internet has limited bandwith but will ship small mounts of data almost instantly.
The post office has amost unlimited bandwith but insain lag.
For example this message is posted from my pda to slashdot in seconds. The same message would take at least three days over the postal network.
But if I tried to send the entire contents of my computer over the net it would take a few weeks (for mainnence reasons I erased the mp3s and porn from my system.. already backed up)
I could copy everything to cdr and ship it.
There is a max load for postal but you'll only see it if your in retail or masproduction and shipping whole batches of refridgeraters or TVs.
The data bandwith of the postal system will continue to increase as long as data storage improves.
Internet bandwith has to contend with burrocracy and corprate compacency postsl bandwith dose not.
If SCO's BS works then Apple can play the same game on Microsoft.
Don't prove infringment just make wild stupid "but the public won't know better" type clames.
After all Apple did give Microsoft the right to use the Mac os look and feel.
Or maybe whomever owns BSD today can clame ownership of some key Internet protocalls via todays insain patent system.
Last time I talked to someone about SCO was a Unix admin who was angry at whom ever signed the contract for the system install.
The company that sold them the system got to keep root access for themselfs and charged to make changes to the system config.
Face it, if it some source is vital to your company staying competitive, it isn't going to be GPL'd.
Only if your selling the software and not giving away (as any and all hardware venders do)
When your selling software you want as many people buying your software as possable. Giving it away and worse GPLing the source is counter productive.
When you sell HARDWARE you want as many people buying your HARDWARE as possable. Giving away the SOFTWARE that makes it run is a good idea. GPLing the source is even better.
Great you have closed source Windows drivers horray for you becouse you can sell to 75% of the market like everyone else.
Thats ok but just by GPLing the code they go from 75% to 100%... and byond as hackers and hams find new uses for them.
Some hams have reprogrammed some communications hardware to do new things. I'd be neat if a WIFI card can also be a packet modem or a repeater.
Maybe even a self contained wifi repeater for those community network projects.
Who knows?
Well on the plus side consoles are cheaper than systems with a standard buss and we'd no longer have to worry about the interface buss being the drag.
On the negitive side is that the industry dose what Microsoft wants. If Microsoft says "You may not upgrade your hardware" the add on after market dries up and all you have left are chip sets put directly on the mother board no more updating anything.
Future entry in out'r history books.
"It was only 50 years after he died in prison we discovered it was annother relitive"
Actually if they got a conviction with DNA evedence he was the guy.
But picture your oh say Bill Gates, Clinton,Bush, Linus, ESR or Cmdr Taco and the police arrest you on a partal DNA match. Flash "News famous technology guy arrested for sereal rape and murder of children of both genders".
But the arrested party shares NO DNA with the rapist (we keep thinking out tech idols are gods why should we expect they must have human dna...) and during every rape the arrested tech exper can prove he was elsewhere becouse that elsewhere was live on TV for vareous reasons (interviews, Big brother TV shows, Comdex and public clame of innocentce)
If it were Bill Gates it'd be in every slashdot sig to ruin the mans life (I hate the product but that dosen't mean he deserves to have his whole life ruined) if it was a Linux or open source rep the Microsofies would ruin his life. Etc
Linux and Windows both have compressed file systems that can be applied to CD rom.
Besides making the data disk readable from only one os I see no sereous draw backs to this software solution.
So this hardware solution is not OS dependent but it appears to have issues with reguards to other CD rom drives.
If someone wanted to they could put the Linux compression in a Windoes driver or add windows compression to Linux.
and Mac Os X support should be easy enough.
The folowing is just as true of Solarus (closed micro kernel) as is of Linux (open monolythic)
This sort of thing is why you need to let end users edit/replace as much code as they can.
You can do useless but cool things like this while not being bloated with useless and unwanted 'features'
Sealed systems that don't let end users change things around end up having every feature possable in the system and still lack features users want.
But when you let them change things (eather by open source or micro kernel) then you get all kinds of funky cool features.
Even ones that don't really have any practical application. Oh wait did someone say this will work for brail terminals? Well guess this IS practical after all.
But we'd never know that if it wasn't for the ability to replace the X11 system with this funky hack.
Plain and simple they tried to work with Microsoft.
Microsoft viewed them as a group of extream Linux zellots (as they'd clame we all are) and simply refused to open a dialog with the team.
They wanted to talk with Microsoft about the exploite and what to do about it.
Microsoft could have even sent a nasty gram at that time if they so wished but chouse not to do even that much.
The team got accused of stuff and failed to establish any sort of dialog contract or business agreement.
Failing to make contact they did the only reasonable thing.
The team did not want to enable piracy on the Xbox and the soft mod would do that.
The team wanted a reasonable alternitive for installing Linux but Microsoft was under no obligations to comply.
It was the openning of contract talks with a laundry list of requests. Being paid? Ok that was was clearly added to be removed later. Microsoft needed to open up with it's own list of offers and requests and arrange a meeting.
Like "No more Linux on xbox"
By posting on slashdot you agreed to switch to Linux and mindlessly bash Microsoft.
Well no you didn't but it's as if thats what antiLinux types think happends.
Gee if you could shrinkwrap a liccens on products.
"By buying McDonalds Coffee you agree not to spill it"
"By buying this pack of ciggeretts you agree not to oppose the parent companys bid for world domination."
I don't see any such liccens on the outside of the X Box pacaging.
"By buying our Nintendo products you agree to install Linux on your X box if you ever get one" Ohhh
Um no you actually can't ask any of that. Not legally.
At most "No user servicable parts"
But that gose with out saying.
I think he is refering to Win 2003 forward as Microsoft plans to include it in the os in all future versions.
Or maybe he's having bad luck.
Win 98 dosen't crash when IE crashes on me. But Win 98 dose crash requiring a reboot when I use anything employing 3D graphics (obveously defective drivers)
But it's just the work puter. I mosrly use it to log into my Linux box at home.
I'm still a bit supprised she got third degree burns needing skin grafts.
But I do know some medical and hay an 80 year old woman is going to burn pritty easly.
And my soup is wepons grade before I eat it becouse I'm more able to handle hot water.
Not that I'm gona poor hot coffee down my shorts. I'm crazy not stupid.
1. I like to pay cash not credit.
2. Spamazon, one click shopping, Next bad business practace I'm sure Amazon will lead the way.
3. I want the book NOW.
4. I do shop online at sears becpuse of the "pick it up at the store" policy. That way I pay no postage.
I do all my research on the net anyway. But I do prefer to brows the book a bit just to be sure it's what I want so the shrink wrap would suck but it won't stop me from going to the book store.
I'm just repeating and simplfying the parent.
Telemarketter is told "You can not call people who don't want to be called" Telemarketter says "Well then I'll use email"
In other words "I'll just email the people who don't want to be emailed"
As far as TV and postal.. they already do that. The spam is replacing the cold calling.
Spam lists are recycled "Do not call" lists. Spammers are under no obligation to respect the wishes of those found on that list.
Telemarketters are turnning to email becouse they have no intent to folow any rules.
It's reading between the lines...
But the main parent makes a point. The artical dose not come out and say it.
Most banner ad services I've looked at pay per click or per view not per tier of course if your running your own banner server you get paid directly and pay back for ads you don't serve.
When your paid per tier your being screwed big time so you realy should go with pay per click.
But not all banner agentcys are honnest and many skim or outright refuse to pay.
Running your own ad server is no simple task.
Micropayments is an elegent solution IF someone can find the right formula.
Good luck..
RMS on Windows
Woz on Microsoft
Ford on Chevolet
(Insert big name company) on (insert major compediter)
I think of those Woz MIGHT be fair. Maybe... if he feels like it.
As a rule compediters trash each other. I'd just like to see a day when the industry realises Bill Gates isn't any more truthfull than any other CEO.
Something that is often believed is that open source develupers are kids and closed sorce seasoned pros.
Not even close.
Bill Gates started Microsoft out of collage he had no more experence than Linus had when Linus started his kernel.
Jim Butterfield (The Commodore 8 bit guru) put out a bunch of public domain in his time.
There are programmers who code open source projects becouse they want to code and happy to do so as a break from a nice comfy hardware dev job.
Some programmers sell software to pay for collage.
The code is pritty much the same at first but in the commertal environment thats the coder teams job. They'll put off beer night to focus on work. The public never sees the product untill it's polished.
The os coder puts out his first working version so others may contribute. It takes longer as they put off coding for beer night, collage or work.
Once the commertal product is done it's chash out and move on.
The open source project is NEVER done.
Yes eBay is in effect dictating it's contract to you. In an equal relationship you get to discuss terms and has out what you'll agree to.
Also eBay has the power to change it's agreements and you can eather agree or close shop forever.
Some businesses use this tactic to scam or shaft business partners. Or they just flat out ignore there own responsabilitys to the contract.
He has never actually used anything but Windows for years.
All the Linux clames of innovation are impossable for Windows hence to Bill it must also be impossable for anyone else.
Reminds me of the Amiga days when everyone was behind the Amiga by 6 months to 2 years.
Now however Windows lags behind everyone by about 5 years.
Linux has to fight with systems designed from chip fab to OEM to run Windows and is reasonably successful. What do you think would happen if ONE company stopped making systems based on Windows requirements?
I give you MY pc. I assembled it using parts I got at one of those discount computer shows where you buy parts at a discount.
Video card: Won't work on windows 95 (I replaced it with a 3D card)
TV card (dose not like my 3D card but Linux has a workaround)
Scanner (SANE is the only drivers I can find for it)
two sound cards (confuses the hell out of Windows)
With some hacks Window sorta works a little bit.
Not that I care.
True. If IBM had wanted to buy out SCO they would have already started the buy out.
If memory serves SCO was saying they were getting bought out by IBM with a folow up story of IBM denying it.
But my brains not so good so I could be SCOing[1] it.
[1]Remembering things the way I want them to be instead of how they are.
At this rate SCO is going to be a pritty nasty techno cuss word.
Well I say SCOem and that SCOing clame on Linux.
Here is a terrorist threat. Keep reporting made up threats untill the public is numb.
Then when a REAL threat appears people ignore it as yet annother chicken little crying "wolf".
OmG terrorists in my shorts....
Posability one: Those 'morality' classes are a cover for the 'immoral acts' department you know nothing about.
It appears odd to go so far out of the way to make employees squeeky clean unless to hide the real dirt.
Posability two: Verison "psst hay buddy come look at our new phone. Go ahead take it" Nextel "Um ok.. thanks" uses phone as paperweight on desk completely unaware it is a prototype.
Possability three: Verison planning meeting "Nextel is right how do we get the word out?"
"We sue Nextel on a frivilous clame they spied on our service. News carrys it maybe even a Slashdot or Slate story. We lose but the public will talk for months and we have out advertising plus built in.. that's that term those Linux zellots use? FUD? Automatic Fear Uncertanty and Dout about Nextel before our launch."
Roll 6 sided dice... if number is above three then devide by 2
My boss has the cell phone plan where he can get all the phone calls he likes for one flat fee and pays for all outgoing calls ( with so many free minuts )
I attempted to get the handspring visor phone add on module but handspring ran out.
The service "I" ordered was free nights and weekends. Thats incomming and outgoing. Outside of nights and weekends I just don't need a cell phone.
I've noticed the cell phone rates for SMS, email and web surfing is stupidly overpriced and not worth it no matter what US calling plan I go with so I left it out.
As it is I got a wireless modem for my pda instead and have AIM, email and web browsing with zero limits cheap. No phone but I can live with that.
Poke around you'll find at least one Linux destro that will make you want to return to Microsoft.
I fell in love with a platform a few years back and to spite temptation I've stayed with it.
I'm refering to the *nix platform BTW. (As in posix based command line oses)
Hehe.
Presumming the tech writer came from MsDos to Windows and not from MsBasic to Windows it's likely this person has considerable technical skill.
Dos as complex as it is dose discurage programming but encurages tweeking. Windows discurages (and occasionally punishes) tweeking.
Posix systems encurage tweeking and programming and hacking at all levels. Sadly that includes black hats.
Windows says "Oh don't worry users can't do that" Linux says "Here's how to do it and how to prevent it and how to thwart that and protect against the twarting."
Oh yeah I hear Linux.com is paying for HOW TOs... In case he's thinking of making a living with posix systems.