But by having greylists and making it difficult for subnets that have trolls in it, it makes it difficult for trolls to actually do their dirty work.
If I'm a troll, I post like 10 times, get modded down and can only post once a day. I try to make another account, but since my subnet is in the greylist cause of my activity, the new account can only post, like 3 times a day (maybe even have to wait a day before I can post). So now, its getting to be a royal pain to even troll, so why bother trying?
The next evolution is to make blacklists of people who make more then, say, 10 troll accounts from a single subnet can't make a new account for a month or something.
I'm not suggesting that AC's stop posting. I'm saying that since slashdot requires no personal information to create an account, they simply should just create an account.
it won't even solve the problem as you'll just see a lot of brand-new users posting the same crap.
Read my WHOLE post. I suggest IP greylists for trolls and crapflooders (basically, drop subnet bans and put the subnets into a list). If you create a new account from the greylist, they can only post 5 or so comments a day until they get modded up (and can start posting like normal), or get modded down (and can only post once a day or are banned).
That way, you really hinder the crapflooders and do NOT penalize any poor soul that has to share a proxy or subnet with a crap flooder.
What person information do you give out when you create an account?
I can get myself a gmail account (nothing but fake info), create a new slashdot user id with said email account, and can post my 'AC' stuff from that account.
What's the difference?
Lets face it, slashdot breeds trolls. I see two reasons for it:
1.) The using a shotgun to kill mice method for banning users. To paraphrase: Banning entire subnets to catch a single troll, and, therefore, banning tons of innocents in the process. They use vinegar to lure bees instead of honey. Lets face it, the moderation system isn't good, and its just forcing more and more malcontent and loss of posting.
2.) AC's. Really, that's what kills slashdot. If AC posting was removed, there would be a lot less crap. Making an ID is free, easy, and doesn't require you to give out any personal information. Why not tie stuff to an ID so its easier to get rid of the crap? Instead of IP bans, you can setup an IP 'greylist' that means if you create an account from the greylist, they can't post much or have to wait a couple days after registration to post.
Instead of trying to suspend everyones posting to stop trolls, how about we use a little insight and postive effects to combat trolling and crapflooding?
Lets put it this way:
Consoles will take over PC gaming when they get the advantages of PC Gaming like bigger harddrives, better memory, better quality graphics...
And to get that, what do they have to be? Modern day PCs with rigid hardware. Basically a laptop.
I'm guessing within the next 5 generations, the console and PC market will converge...
The truely frustrating part is the moment I saw this a good 15 minutes ago (using my subscription plume to see stories early), I wrote an email immediately to the requested address (daddypants -at- slashdot) and told of the dupe.
This was 'supposed' to help them clean up dupes, yet we find that they are not only failing to check dupes, tehy are also failing to check the account so that those of us (that are paying, not being paid) can help out...
This is getting way to much press. Lemmie put it to you this way:
Walmart Foundation: www.walmartfoundation.org
Parody Site: www.walmart-foundation.org
Walmart is NOT bitching about this.
He basically has a site where people probably stumble onto when they are trying to go to a legit site. Walmart's ONLY beef was that he was using their images.
I can't tell you how we ALL have known since the web was invented that you don't steal other peoples graphics. Sure, there may be some grey area with parodies, but its the same thing we knew when we were just getting into making HTML.
But, since this kid wants press, he starts using "CENSORED BY THE DMCA" so we'll all cry fowl.
He rolled the dice and lost... and all it was was over the stupid graphics.
I say, "its an art class, how about making PARODIES of the IMAGES too?"
This app spiders through all routes of an app through the bytecode. Not only will this become a very stable and usable debugging application, but the applications that borrow from this application are endless with possibilities. For NASA to OS an app, this was probably the best choice!
Being in a blacklisted IP-Range before, I can share your frustration. But I do believe the motives behind this isn't to keep AOL blacklisted, but to motivate AOL to fix their outgoing spam problems. Nothing says "Fix people spamming from your service" like thousands of angry customers...
You don't have the latest version, I'm thinking. The latest version of reader 7 comes up lightning fast. Reader 6, on the other hand, is slow as molasses.
Troll. From version 1, hibernate was capable of joining multiple tables. Its in its very nature if you have any many-to-one relationships without lazy loading.
Actually, this is one technology that kinda lives up to the hype. Its an ORM that performs (in most cases) as fast as hand-written sql statements. I call that powerful and ultra high performance...
Hibernate, first of all, is becoming the de facto persistance layer for all modern java webapps. Tied up with the Spring Framework for transactions and either Struts or Tapestry on the front end, it is becoming a commonplace for tons of Java work.
This book, however, I found extremely lacking. It didn't really teach me anything new that I didn't already learn from the webpages. Granted, I've been using hibernate for over a year now and have kept up with the technology, so perhaps this is still a book for someone new to the technology.
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But by having greylists and making it difficult for subnets that have trolls in it, it makes it difficult for trolls to actually do their dirty work.
If I'm a troll, I post like 10 times, get modded down and can only post once a day. I try to make another account, but since my subnet is in the greylist cause of my activity, the new account can only post, like 3 times a day (maybe even have to wait a day before I can post). So now, its getting to be a royal pain to even troll, so why bother trying?
The next evolution is to make blacklists of people who make more then, say, 10 troll accounts from a single subnet can't make a new account for a month or something.
I'm not suggesting that AC's stop posting. I'm saying that since slashdot requires no personal information to create an account, they simply should just create an account.
it won't even solve the problem as you'll just see a lot of brand-new users posting the same crap.
Read my WHOLE post. I suggest IP greylists for trolls and crapflooders (basically, drop subnet bans and put the subnets into a list). If you create a new account from the greylist, they can only post 5 or so comments a day until they get modded up (and can start posting like normal), or get modded down (and can only post once a day or are banned).
That way, you really hinder the crapflooders and do NOT penalize any poor soul that has to share a proxy or subnet with a crap flooder.
What person information do you give out when you create an account?
I can get myself a gmail account (nothing but fake info), create a new slashdot user id with said email account, and can post my 'AC' stuff from that account.
What's the difference?
Lets face it, slashdot breeds trolls. I see two reasons for it:
1.) The using a shotgun to kill mice method for banning users. To paraphrase: Banning entire subnets to catch a single troll, and, therefore, banning tons of innocents in the process. They use vinegar to lure bees instead of honey. Lets face it, the moderation system isn't good, and its just forcing more and more malcontent and loss of posting.
2.) AC's. Really, that's what kills slashdot. If AC posting was removed, there would be a lot less crap. Making an ID is free, easy, and doesn't require you to give out any personal information. Why not tie stuff to an ID so its easier to get rid of the crap? Instead of IP bans, you can setup an IP 'greylist' that means if you create an account from the greylist, they can't post much or have to wait a couple days after registration to post.
Instead of trying to suspend everyones posting to stop trolls, how about we use a little insight and postive effects to combat trolling and crapflooding?
... how is apple going to profit from piracy?
Tell me you didn't read this, and then the posted article. You did post both, Taco, cause you are the editor of both....
...save yourself a few bucks and just buy an X86 box for much, much cheaper....
Lets put it this way:
Consoles will take over PC gaming when they get the advantages of PC Gaming like bigger harddrives, better memory, better quality graphics...
And to get that, what do they have to be? Modern day PCs with rigid hardware. Basically a laptop.
I'm guessing within the next 5 generations, the console and PC market will converge...
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The truely frustrating part is the moment I saw this a good 15 minutes ago (using my subscription plume to see stories early), I wrote an email immediately to the requested address (daddypants -at- slashdot) and told of the dupe.
This was 'supposed' to help them clean up dupes, yet we find that they are not only failing to check dupes, tehy are also failing to check the account so that those of us (that are paying, not being paid) can help out...
I actually detest Walmart and all it stands for, and my current client (i'm a contractor) is one of their direct competitors.
I just hate it when people overhype crap to get attention.
This is getting way to much press. Lemmie put it to you this way:
Walmart Foundation: www.walmartfoundation.org
Parody Site: www.walmart-foundation.org
Walmart is NOT bitching about this.
He basically has a site where people probably stumble onto when they are trying to go to a legit site. Walmart's ONLY beef was that he was using their images.
I can't tell you how we ALL have known since the web was invented that you don't steal other peoples graphics. Sure, there may be some grey area with parodies, but its the same thing we knew when we were just getting into making HTML.
But, since this kid wants press, he starts using "CENSORED BY THE DMCA" so we'll all cry fowl.
He rolled the dice and lost... and all it was was over the stupid graphics.
I say, "its an art class, how about making PARODIES of the IMAGES too?"
No extra publicity in that, though...
This app spiders through all routes of an app through the bytecode. Not only will this become a very stable and usable debugging application, but the applications that borrow from this application are endless with possibilities. For NASA to OS an app, this was probably the best choice!
... quit making shitty movies.
You did much better when you were copying off of others works.
Step two. Stop writing. You aren't good at it.
Step three. Stop directing. You lost your charm.
What does that leave? Producing. You give the cash and some ideas, let others do the work.
Trust me George... you can only go up from here if you follow these simple instructions.
Being in a blacklisted IP-Range before, I can share your frustration. But I do believe the motives behind this isn't to keep AOL blacklisted, but to motivate AOL to fix their outgoing spam problems. Nothing says "Fix people spamming from your service" like thousands of angry customers...
funny how he always posts this kinda stuff on tuesdays
as if tuesday has some sort of significance
So we are calling pictures from blogs facts? How do we know this isn't just a photoshop?
Well, at least the submitter was convinced... wait... the submitter is the blog writer.
So with photoshop and a blog, I can get on slashdot?
Are these pics real? I guess only time will tell...
... it only takes most pirates (at most) a week to find a work around and everything is back to (pirating) normal.
You don't have the latest version, I'm thinking. The latest version of reader 7 comes up lightning fast. Reader 6, on the other hand, is slow as molasses.
Yes... a perfect solution for anyone willing to shell out >$300 for a keyboard....
I've been figured out! I guess I'll have to go with plan B... hiding my superbacteria in the folds of fat old IT drones.....
Troll. From version 1, hibernate was capable of joining multiple tables. Its in its very nature if you have any many-to-one relationships without lazy loading.
Actually, this is one technology that kinda lives up to the hype. Its an ORM that performs (in most cases) as fast as hand-written sql statements. I call that powerful and ultra high performance...
Hibernate, first of all, is becoming the de facto persistance layer for all modern java webapps. Tied up with the Spring Framework for transactions and either Struts or Tapestry on the front end, it is becoming a commonplace for tons of Java work.
This book, however, I found extremely lacking. It didn't really teach me anything new that I didn't already learn from the webpages. Granted, I've been using hibernate for over a year now and have kept up with the technology, so perhaps this is still a book for someone new to the technology.
... Just forget about it and let it cruise away... and then when people encounter 'V-Ger' in a couple years, they'll be clueless as to what it is...
Doesn't NASA watch movies?!?!