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George Lucas Struggles to Reinvent Himself

GuyMannDude writes "Wired has a lengthy article about what lies ahead for George Lucas. Originally a member of a maverick group of young filmmakers who were at odds with the thinking and methods of the major studios, he has now become the most financially successful director in history by marketing the ultimate popcorn fodder. With the Star Wars saga ending, Lucas now struggles with how to reinvent himself." I imagine it will be hard to get away from Star Wars, given that he's producing television shows set in the fictional universe.

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  1. Clones, Myths and Prizes by Baldrson · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Lucas now struggles with how to reinvent himself

    and He estimates that he gave two decades of solid work to Star Wars, not including a hiatus to raise three adopted kids as a single father.

    Obviously the time has come for payback from his fans.

    How many young Star Wars couples would be willing to raise their very own George Lucas Love Clone?

    Come on, George. Donate some nuclei. Leave the midichlorian, er, mitochondrian DNA to the egg donor.

    Face it -- its the right thing to do.

    Bit serially, this guy has done a lot for digital cinema and his accumulated capital seems most appropriately put to use cultivating young talent. The academic cinema schools where he and his contemporaries got their start just aren't what they used to be but he could certainly help advance the state of the art in home "home schooled" digital movie production.

    This would get kids in the hinterlands producing movies from their own myths, starting from the same age Spielberg was when he first got a hold of a movie camera.

    Probably the best way to do it would be to get together with someone like John Carmack and define a series of prize awards for technologies that are critical to bringing the cost of movie production down.

    1. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by justanyone · · Score: 1

      Re: Clones, Myths and Prizes

      Shouldn't that read, "Clothes, Misses, and Pizzas?" as his wealth increases?

    2. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      his accumulated capital seems most appropriately put to use cultivating young talent

      Michael Jackson already tried that, and look where it got him.

    3. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Modded you up, so I'm posting anonymously.

      Who are you, really?

      A lunatic?
      A genius?
      Generally funny guy?

      I can't tell. Some of the stuff you post on k5 is weird beyond belief, racist (or is it? I can never tell, you're so careful), or inane. Some of it, if not a good idea, certainly interesting ideas that need further exploration.

      And here you are, saying things just a little more eloquently than others that could make one think you are not normal, rather just a little more exceptional than most. Funny, insightful, and even correct, just in this one post.

    4. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by ediron2 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I disagree.

      Probably the best way to do it would be to get together with someone like John Carmack and define a series of prize awards for technologies that are critical to bringing the cost of movie production down.


      You mean, like a DV camcorder and a PC?! Or custom flash animations? Or Machinima? Or an Intel 'Play' ($100 or less at toy stores everywhere)?

      Seriously, someone emailed me a 1-minute, 20-frame animated gif that made me laugh myself silly (google 'lord-of-the-rings really-really'). Napoleon Dynamite (a so-so flick) cost $60,000. 401-the-movie (or whatever that homebrew flick was called) was done by two guys in a garage. Whether you go gonzo and buy old gear (early video toasters are STUPID cheap on ebay, for the capability they have) or buy new consumer/hobbyist gear (toys or personal gear), you can create stuff easily nowadays. And once done, between burnable discs, torrents and viral marketing and websites, good material can be distributed more easily than ever, too.

      The difference between a damn-funny personal movie and commercial cinema isn't in the creativity (the writing, editing, acting, etc). It's all the details. I judged a regional film fest last year, and the judges instinctively 'cut slack' to beginner projects. If the content is good, everyone tolerates cut corners. But, once there's money to be made, you have to go back and reshoot, paying attention to the details.

      Until the goal is truly going commercial, people can do amazing stuff just using COTS gadgetry and a PC. The capability is there sixteen different ways to sundown. Hell, people can do cool stuff in freakin' Powerpoint, as David Byrne demonstrated last year.

      I'm sure there are technical hardware improvements possible. But they're not the barrier. Competitions or websites giving these airtime/attention, busted copyright laws (it should be legal/cheap (via compulsory licensing?) to co-opt content like LOTR RRSE does) and desire and experience are about the only impediments.
    5. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, for the record...if you post, even as AC, your mod points void.

    6. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by pizzaman100 · · Score: 4, Funny
      Seriously, someone emailed me a 1-minute, 20-frame animated gif that made me laugh myself silly (google 'lord-of-the-rings really-really').

      For the lazy...lord-of-the-rings really-really"

    7. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by Jonathan+the+Nerd · · Score: 1
      someone emailed me a 1-minute, 20-frame animated gif that made me laugh myself silly (google 'lord-of-the-rings really-really')

      I got redirected to a 404 when I tried to view it. Do you have an alternate source for this file?

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    8. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by serutan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you have a show-business career that lasts long enough, the media will eventually describe you as "struggling to reinvent" yourself. The term conjures up an image of an aging hot-babe or obese Elvis whose vehicle to fame has run out of gas, and they're sort of pathetically trying to get attention. I don't think this describes Lucas at all. At this point he is free to do whatever he wants for the rest of his life. If you read the article it sounds like he intends to take advantage of that, returning to the types of films he wanted to make when he started out. I say good luck to him.

    9. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by pinchhazard · · Score: 0

      This is longer, funnier, and more on-topic for this thread: Episode IV, As it Should Have Been

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    10. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by antdude · · Score: 1

      Also, George Lucas pushed on technologies (THX, DLP, ILM, etc.). Also, he lets fans make their own movies (not for profit obviously; he even watches them to pick the best ones), stories, etc. for contests.

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    11. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by yourfnmom · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Awww, come on! Napoleon Dynamite, a so-so flick? I pretty much laughed my flippin head off the entire time.

    12. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by SethJohnson · · Score: 2, Insightful



      ...returning to the types of films he wanted to make when he started out.

      I fully agree with your summation here. I am doubtful, however, that he'll succeed in this effort. This is the dream of any aged artist. Oh, if Metallica could record another album of the caliber of "Kill 'em All"!! Or if Slayer could create another "Reign in Blood." Or the Beastie Boys could revisit "Paul's Boutique" again.

      They can't. Maturity and success has fogged their third eye. It's only a very rare breed of successful artists who can maintain the vision of their youth to create a whole life's worth of interesting works. In this category, I'd put Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Rick Nielson (Cheap Trick), Dave Grohl, Steven Speilberg, Martin Scorcese, Robert Rodriquez, and I don't know who else.

      Success has affected Lucas probably worse than maturity. Maturity is what made him revise his earlier films to be more "kid-friendly" (Greedo did not shoot first). It's what inspired him to create Jar-Jar Binks-- to him, that's what would appeal to kids. Through maturity, he lost touch with the child mind, and instead projects the parent ideal of the child mind.

      But these are problems he has making kids' films. Even if he were to attempt an adult film like THX1138, he'd fail because of how success has tainted him. He's got too much money to throw on the screen and he doesn't know when to hold back and let the audience's imagination fill in the blanks. As a storyteller, he is compelled to spoonfeed it with explicit detail. How could he recover?!? Give him a budget of only $1 million and someone else's R rated script. The slim budget will force an economy on his storytelling that will inspire creativity within Lucas. He'll have to figure out other ways to get key points across rather than sweeping 3-D CGI landscapes. The R rated script will keep him in the mind of the adults who grew up watching his earlier works.

      Oh well. What do I know. I've never made a movie longer than 5 minutes on anything bigger than super 8 film.

    13. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by ediron2 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Hey, I loved it too but I'm also biased in favor of it (I grew up in southeast Idaho). That said, I can name funnier movies, better characterization, etc. It's full of moments where more money could have improved it. But, like I said in another post on this thread, doing so costs a *lot*! Napoleon D is the *archtype* of my point: you can do so much cheaply nowadays.

    14. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dave Grohl? Are you serious? Foo Fighters have been getting progressively worse with every album!

    15. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      In this category, I'd put Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Rick Nielson (Cheap Trick), Dave Grohl, Steven Speilberg, Martin Scorcese, Robert Rodriquez, and I don't know who else.
      David Bowie
    16. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by SA+Stevens · · Score: 1

      When you said 'payback for his fans' what came to my mind immediately, since you'd said 'two decades of his life' was that his 'fans' would want two decades of THEIR life back from him.

      But shucks, this is a trekkie thread (or whatever Star Wars folks call themselves) so I'd better wince and duck.

    17. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by syousef · · Score: 1

      Lucas now struggles with how to reinvent himself

      I can cope with that, but if he shows up in a pointy bra with his teeth blacked out, I'm walking out!

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    18. Re:Clones, Myths and Prizes by AussieVamp2 · · Score: 1

      (I grew up in southeast Idaho) -- and you made it to Slashdot? Amazing!

  2. New outlet by nizo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now that his first group of fans has grown up, there is a whole new area of filmmaking that he hasn't explored yet: Star Wars porn. I mean who wouldn't pay good money to see a wookie getting it on with a bunch of ewoks?

    1. Re:New outlet by Winckle · · Score: 2, Funny

      Jesus, you must have karma to burn!

    2. Re:New outlet by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 5, Funny

      From epoch-making films to, erm, ewok-mating films?

      Eww.

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    3. Re:New outlet by Jonathan+the+Nerd · · Score: 2, Funny
      Some of us would pay good money not to see something like that.

      Still, there are possibilities...

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    4. Re:New outlet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus was a Buddhist? Why isn't this in the Bible? Oh the humanity of it all!

    5. Re:New outlet by Seumas · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Since when has the star wars saga come to an end? He's working on two new series for television, based on Star Wars. The third film isn't even out yet - and there's still the possibility of episodes seven, eigh and nine. Not to mention the various release versions that will come out over the next decade to make money off of the morons who buy everything with the words "star wars" on them.

      If Lucas is stuck in a rut, it's his own doing. He's put out so much crap based on his original three pieces of crap almost three decades ago and he wonders why he's pigeon-holed and might have a hard time moving into something else? Well, fucking duh.

      I couldn't really care less. I can't remember the last thing Lucas made that I enjoyed. The original Star Wars was okay - I can take it or leave it. The First of the new ones sucked (and I haven't seen any since) and I can't think of anything besides THX1138 that I've liked.

      Hopefully he'll just vanish and make room for some new talent.

    6. Re:New outlet by nizo · · Score: 2, Funny

      See? This idea is solid gold from a marketing perspective. I bet you can't get the whole wookie/ewok thing out of your head for the rest of the day!

    7. Re:New outlet by Skye16 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, it's a step up from Phantom Menace...

    8. Re:New outlet by lheal · · Score: 3, Funny
      • wookie ... with a bunch of ewoks?

      That's just wrong. You need to get some therapy quick, cuz ... damn!

      But I know there were some deleted scenes between Jabba and the Princess.

      You know what they say, "Once you go Hut, you never", uh, never mind.

      My appointment is at 4.

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    9. Re:New outlet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      If the Ewoks were underaged, then we'd REALLY see the Chewbacca Defense in court...

    10. Re:New outlet by beerman2k · · Score: 0, Troll

      You liked THX 1138?!?

      In any case... you should check out American Graffiti. It's quite good.

    11. Re:New outlet by Jaspers · · Score: 1

      hey check this out (Warning: Explicit mpg: might insault some people) Here it is

    12. Re:New outlet by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2, Funny
      ...deleted scenes between Jabba and the Princess.

      Wasn't Jabba played by Sally Strothers?
      That would make it a lesbian sex fest!
      But I doubt few here would complain.

    13. Re:New outlet by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1
      I can't remember the last thing Lucas made that I enjoyed.

      Visited here lately?

    14. Re:New outlet by the.pornlord · · Score: 1

      The great flannelled one has said many times that there will be no Eps. 7,8,9. Most recently here:
      http://theforce.net/episode3/story/C3_More_from_Ge orge_Lucas_at_Media_QA_91615.asp

    15. Re:New outlet by hawk · · Score: 2, Funny
      >Wasn't Jabba played by Sally Strothers?

      Really? I thought it was either Elizabeth Taylor or Oprah Winfrey. I suppose I could figure it out if I'd look up the different sizes of Jabba and googled a bit . . .

      :)

      hawk

    16. Re:New outlet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Karma's a Buddhist concept? Wow, you learn something new every day. I could of sworn it was Hindu.

    17. Re:New outlet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could you be more...specific?

    18. Re:New outlet by Surt · · Score: 1

      Of course, lucas had nothing to do with maniac mansion, his company was just the publisher.

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    19. Re:New outlet by ErikTheRed · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't know... Watching Episode I was probably about as bad as being raped by a Wookie. My wallet certainly got screwed.

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    20. Re:New outlet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meesa horny!

    21. Re:New outlet by nacturation · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Finally, my sig is on-topic!

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    22. Re:New outlet by geekpuppySEA · · Score: 1
      I'd be first in line:

      http://www.bigmusclebears.com

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    23. Re:New outlet by fizban · · Score: 1

      That's gold, Jerry! Gold!

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    24. Re:New outlet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well.. B5: Crusade explored this territory
      already. I mean if 23rd century Earth can make "Who's your little Pak'ma'ra" or "Snow White and the 7 Narn" and then i think Star Wars porn could sell like hotcakes :P

      --vat

    25. Re:New outlet by SilentOne · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      It would be if you could spell, sorry!

    26. Re:New outlet by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1

      How can you mention "Star Wars Porn" without mentioning "Natalie Portman"?

    27. Re:New outlet by Zenmonkeycat · · Score: 1

      I would pay /bad/ money to see that. The /good/ money I'd save for some hot Darth-on-Darth action.

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    28. Re:New outlet by sharkey · · Score: 1

      No, it was one of Peter Griffen's ancestors, and I quote: "Eeeta-choota-wookiee-nipple-pinchee!"

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    29. Re:New outlet by nacturation · · Score: 1

      Too bad you don't get it. "Post Humously" is spelled that way for a reason.

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    30. Re:New outlet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm afraid that, like your mother, Princess Leia has gotten somewhat older since the 70's.

    31. Re:New outlet by SA+Stevens · · Score: 1

      I liked the Christmas Special. Not for it's dramatic quality, mind you. It's a cool 'relic' of television of that era. Kind of like opening up a clock radio from 1977 and noticing how many complex parts and secondary operations went into it's manufacture. Things, meaning movies, and manufactured goods, have gotten 'slicker' since then.

    32. Re:New outlet by AussieVamp2 · · Score: 1

      give new meaning to blacks on blondes?

  3. Not for the first time, either by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 4, Insightful
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    1. Re:Not for the first time, either by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Must ... Reinvent ... Self ... ;-)

      I thought you were talking about somebody else for a second there.

    2. Re:Not for the first time, either by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 1
      The scary part is, at any given moment, there is probably someone in Hollywood pitching a remake of Howard the Duck.

      "No, see, this time, Howard will be all CGI!"

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    3. Re:Not for the first time, either by bar-agent · · Score: 1

      But...he's the Voice of Priceline!

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  4. Do what the other bazillionaires are doing... by 14erCleaner · · Score: 2, Interesting

    He should start his own space-flight company.

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    1. Re:Do what the other bazillionaires are doing... by TrippTDF · · Score: 0

      I'd only fly in a ship built by lucas if it sounded like the Fulcon while in flight. Also, all the warning sounds in the cabin had better be stright from the films.

  5. Step One... by FortKnox · · Score: 0, Troll

    ... quit making shitty movies.

    You did much better when you were copying off of others works.

    Step two. Stop writing. You aren't good at it.

    Step three. Stop directing. You lost your charm.


    What does that leave? Producing. You give the cash and some ideas, let others do the work.

    Trust me George... you can only go up from here if you follow these simple instructions.

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    1. Re:Step One... by sg3000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > Trust me George... you can only go up from here if you follow
      > these simple instructions.

      This is getting annoying.

      George Lucas doesn't read Slashdot, and he probably never will.

      We're all sorry he did not use your saliva-encrusted fan fiction as the basis for his script for Episodes I-III, but millions of people enjoyed the movies anyway.

      Comments such as yours and of the two dozen other minority ranters on Slashdot are getting irritating to no end. If you don't like the movies, fine -- click on Preferences, then click on Homepage, and de-select Star Wars. There! wasn't that easy?

      I hope George Lucas makes Jar-Jar a freakin' Jedi Master in Episode III just to piss off the "George Lucas killed my childhood" crowd.

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    2. Re:Step One... by solios · · Score: 1

      Let him outline and storyboard - it's obvious the man has is capable of generating the occasional zinger, but if the most recent SW movies have proved anything, it's that depth isn't something he's capable of. Else the "itty bitty little thing blows up the HUGE MEGA STUPIDBAD THING" would have been used as the climax of ONE movie in the series, instead of THREE (possibly four, haven't seen ep3 yet and can honestly say I have lower expectations for it than I did for the third Matrix film, which was fucking DRAGONBALL Z with sunglasses).

    3. Re:Step One... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Comments such as yours are even more irritating. Just because someone has a negative opinion doesn't mean they should not post. The poster clearly has an interest in Star Wars, I don't think he seriously expected Lucas to read it, he simply wanted to express how he felt about his latest works. Cripes, dissent is half of nerd commentary, give the man a break.

    4. Re:Step One... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but millions of people enjoyed the movies anyway.

      Millions? Find 5 people total who liked either episode 1 or 2, they don't even have to like both. I challenge you.

      There are more than two dozen minority ranters who hate what's happened. He ruined them. He continues to ruin the original movies too. BTW, I'm modding you down. If you aren't a troll just trying to fish for flaming replies, then you are about the biggest retard I've read on /. in the last few months.

    5. Re:Step One... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I hope George Lucas makes Jar-Jar a freakin' Jedi Master in Episode III just to piss off the "George Lucas killed my childhood" crowd.

      Whatever, I grew up with star wars and being preached to by people with the childlike IQ required to appreciate the prequels is annoying. Since you are obviously incapable of criticism, why don't you just shut up and go and watch kiddie films?

    6. Re:Step One... by carpe_noctem · · Score: 1

      ... quit making shitty movies.

      Choice quote from TFA: "I've earned the right to fail, which means making what I think are really great movies that no one wants to see."

      So yeah, I guess that's not going to happen anytime soon, if I had to make a guess. His denial is as deep as a root canal.

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    7. Re:Step One... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Thus making your comments the worst of all! How can you complain about someone complaining about a complaint about star wars? The parent of your post clearly has an interest in star wars, he simply wanted to express how he felt about its non suckingness.

      Criminie! you type of dissent is at least 2/3rds of all the pseduo intelectual nerd commentary on this site! (the last 1/3 is for repetition), why dont you give the parent a break?

    8. Re:Step One... by Rodness · · Score: 1

      Step Four: Stop tweaking every movie that you've already made. We don't need a remastered ultimate dvd director's cut special edition of everything you've done.

      I think the official Star Wars version is going to be what's on store shelves when they nail shut his coffin, and not what was released in 1973.

    9. Re:Step One... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Recursive pot, meet recursive kettle!

    10. Re:Step One... by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Insightful
      With apologies to Mr. Shatner....

      You know, before I answer any more questions there's something I wanted to say. Having read all your posts over the years, and... I've spoken to many of you, and some of you have traveled... y'know... hundreds of miles to be here, I'd just like to say... GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a movie!

      I mean, look at you, look at the way you're dressed! You've turned an enjoyable little job, that Lucas did as a lark for a few years, into a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME! I mean, how old are you people? What have you done with yourselves?

      You, you must be almost 30... have you ever kissed a girl? I didn't think so! There's a whole world out there! When I was your age, I didn't watch movies! I LIVED! So... move out of your parent's basements! And get your own apartments and GROW THE HELL UP! I mean, it's just a movie dammit, IT'S JUST A MOVIE!

      I think that sums it up.

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    11. Re:Step One... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Find 5 people total who liked either episode 1 or 2, they don't even have to like both. I challenge you.

      I liked them both. Then again, I am not a starwars zealot. They were cheesy sci-fi. LIKE THE FIRST 3.

      Lucas made the original starwars to be cowboys in space. It is cock smokers like you who have turned it into a religion.

    12. Re:Step One... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is getting annoying.

      Lucan fanboys are annoying. If you can't understand and appreciate the parent post, you are lost.

    13. Re:Step One... by Tlosk · · Score: 1

      I loved both movies, very entertaining.

    14. Re:Step One... by Wile_E_Peyote · · Score: 1

      We're all sorry he did not use your saliva-encrusted fan fiction as the basis for his script for Episodes I-III, but millions of people enjoyed the movies anyway.

      Yeah, and millions of people voted for George W. Bush. I guess that means we can't criticize him either.

      Comments such as yours and of the two dozen other minority ranters on Slashdot are getting irritating to no end. If you don't like the movies, fine -- click on Preferences, then click on Homepage, and de-select Star Wars. There! wasn't that easy?

      Yeah, luckily you can still (so far) voice your opinion on the internet whether you are in the majority or the minority.

      Nothing worse than someone bitching about another person voicing their opinion. I mean, feel free to disagree, but don't bitch at people just for having an opinion...

    15. Re:Step One... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Step 5: Remove the enormous, misshapen phallus that's attached on top of your neck. Normally, those things should be covered with latex when in use. That spewing of noxious substances you experience both on and off camera is normal behavior for such a phallus.

    16. Re:Step One... by megarich · · Score: 1
      We're all sorry he did not use your saliva-encrusted fan fiction as the basis for his script for Episodes I-III, but millions of people enjoyed the movies anyway.

      ok i do not know a hard core star war fans who really liked episode I or II AND ep III isnt out yet! not legally anyways.

      George Lucas doesn't read Slashdot, and he probably never will.

      and yes we all know chances are slim to none(never say never) georgie boy looks at slashdot but its a way for people to vent there frustrations in case you haven't noticed.

    17. Re:Step One... by Golias · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ... the third Matrix film, which was fucking DRAGONBALL Z with sunglasses)

      Best "Matrix: Revolutions" review 3var!!!

      Also, did you notice that the shot of Neo being carried off by the machines was a frame-for-frame rip-off of the Ohm hoisting up Nausicaa in Miyazaki's vastly superior work, "Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind"?

      Not to mention the final Neo vs. Smith showdown mirroring another superior film: "Dark City"... only without making sense in the context of the story.

      Comment on Lucas to avoid the "offtopic" mods:

      The man is a genius when it comes to the industrial side of film-making, but any artistic sense he ever had has clearly atrophied. Every frame of "Attack of the Clones" is a pig's breakfast of poor composition and brain-dead cinematography.

      So thanks, George, for you and your people coming up with idead like robotic-controlled cameras and radically new methods of creating sound effects, but it's time for you to fade out. Be a producer for the great young minds of film on the rise. (I would love to see what Darren Aronofsky could do if he had access to Lucas-type resources.)

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      Information wants to be anthropomorphized.

    18. Re:Step One... by snuf23 · · Score: 1

      I liked the whiz bang special effects. I just covered my eyes and babbled "lalalalalalalala" at the top of my lungs during the long dialog parts. Helped my enjoyment immensely.

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    19. Re:Step One... by JPelorat · · Score: 1

      Someone complaining about complaining about someone complaining about a complaint about Star Wars??

      Inconcievable!

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    20. Re:Step One... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope George Lucas makes Jar-Jar a freakin' Jedi Master in Episode III just to piss off the "George Lucas killed my childhood" crowd.

      That'd be alright, seeing as (spoiler!) almost all the Jedi die in III... :p

    21. Re:Step One... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your complaint about a complaint about complaining about someone complaining about a complaint about Star Wars is ridiculous. Stop the madness!

    22. Re:Step One... by DesScorp · · Score: 1

      A thousand thank you's for saying that. I get really tired of hearing the whining here about how Lucas is smashing their childhood memories. Wanna know the truth? If a New Hope came out today instead of 1977, Slashdot readers would mercilessly pan it as a piece of shit. Yes, the same ones that claim they loved it so much as children.

      Some people just aren't happy unless they're bitching about something, and apparently a lot of them post on Slashdot.

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    23. Re:Step One... by sg3000 · · Score: 1

      Well, I certainly don't want to be considered to be a troll, but here goes anyway.

      The problem is we have a relatively small number of Star Wars/Lucas haters that speak very loudly on Slashdot and they speak out of proportion of the general population.

      I'm assuming that they didn't like Episodes I and II for various reasons (some more emotional than anything else), and they are desperate to get others to feel the same way. Their fantasy is that if they say it enough, people will start to believe them and a whole movement will rise up and picket Star Wars movies or something. Ticket sales will drop and people will be burning Special Edition DVDs in the streets. Then George Lucas will fly the Star-Wars-hater who wrote the most vitriolic post on Slashdot first class to California to meet him at Skywalker Ranch, where he'll plea with them to write the new movies and beg for forgiveness for their perceived criticisms. The begging will give way to soft music and gentle romance ...

      Or something like that.

      Well, it isn't going to happen. The fact of the matter is the silent majority of people enjoyed the movies quite a bit. It's been said before the Episodes I and II are the same general quality as Episodes IV, V, and VI.

      > Millions? Find 5 people total who liked either episode 1 or 2,
      > they don't even have to like both. I challenge you.

      I don't even have to do that. Look at Alexa.com. Star Wars.com is ranked 1,146th, while Slashdot (which, surprising at it seems, does have non-Star Wars-hating content, so it's still not a fair comparison) is 1,391th. So even if 50% of the stories on Slashdot were about how horrible Lucas is, you still have a lot more people who think a few people are blowing things out of proportion, and just want to enjoy a movie [1]. That is to say Star Wars.com has far more people visiting it (and I presume they're not visiting to keep their anger and hate fresh) than technology enthusiasts are currently visiting Slashdot, where only a small fraction of the stories are related to Star Wars.

      Another data point: Episodes I, II, IV, V, and VI have done about the same in box office dollars. So people aren't staying away in droves like the Star-Wars-haters would like to believe. Screaming "Greedo did NOT shoot first!" doesn't make you [2] sound any more intelligent.

      Basically all the Star Wars-hating is a tempest in a tea cup. If you disagree, fine, but don't feel like you have to post your vitriol in every Star Wars story that gets posted on Slashdot. Remember, the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. So if Lucas has really ruined the franchise, you shouldn't care and you shouldn't be posting on a Slashdot Star Wars story anyway. Then you can ignore me.

      Or mod me as a troll.

      [1] I am of course not suggesting that just because millions of people enjoy Star Wars makes it a good series movies. I am saying that a dozen or so screaming Lucas-haters does not make it a bad set of movies.

      [2] Obviously I'm using you in the plural sense meaning not just the poster, but the Star-Wars-haters in general.

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    24. Re:Step One... by focitrixilous+P · · Score: 1

      I can name 5 people who enjoyed episodes I and II, perhaps not as much as the originals, but they weren't really BAD films. Lucas is in the driver's seat, he can do whatever he wants to Star Wars. They featured epic battles with quality special effects, shadowy forces of evil against heroic Jedi, who are saved at the last minute when the tide somehow turns. It's the exact same thing, rehashed, in new locals, with new people. Why can you love the orignal trilogy and hate the new one is completely beyond me.

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    25. Re:Step One... by srinimax · · Score: 1

      agree completely. star wars is a load of BS. guys in helmets fighting with tubelights and talking funny. agreed, that made tons of moolah. but not everything that's successful is also smart (best example: dubya). to me lucas' most significant contribution is ILM. and star wars is an escape for those whose real world is so insanely boring, they desperately need some fantasy to kill time

    26. Re:Step One... by drsquare · · Score: 1

      but millions of people enjoyed the movies anyway.

      Not me. I'm not a star wars zealot, I haven't seen any of the original films, nor the second one. The only one I've seen is the Phantom Whatever, and I can't say I'm too impressed. Not much of a plot, cartoonish-looking CGI, no tension, crap dialogue, no interesting characters, unsatisfying ending, I was left wondering what all the fuss was about.

      I think it would have been better with a better script and a different director.

  6. re-invent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    He could always reinvent his movies.

    1. Re:re-invent by skaeight · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How long until Episodes 1-3 are re-released in theaters digitally remastered with new scenes and completely recut so that his original vision comes through?

    2. Re:re-invent by dfn5 · · Score: 1
      Definition of reinvent
      1. To make over completely
      2. To bring back into existence or use
      3. To completely screw over

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    3. Re:re-invent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does that mean he'll stop wearing flannel?

    4. Re:re-invent by rainman_bc · · Score: 1

      He could always reinvent his movies.

      Naw, he'll just come out and finally admit Ep 1-3 were prequels for Spaceballs instead haha.

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    5. Re:re-invent by master_p · · Score: 1

      Maybe he could team up with Paramount and produce the next Star Trek series.

    6. Re:re-invent by foobar_fred · · Score: 1

      Too late, it's already been done.

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  7. Shooting... first or second? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2, Funny

    Will the new George Lucas shoot first still? Or will he dodge and return fire?

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    1. Re:Shooting... first or second? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alderaan shoots first.

  8. What!? by darth_MALL · · Score: 2, Funny

    "given that he's producing television shows set in the fictional universe."

    GL is working for Fox News?!

    1. Re:What!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you're confused, it's actually CBS News.

  9. More Sequels by Flwyd · · Score: 4, Funny

    Personally, I'm waiting for a sequel, video games, and action figues for American Graffiti.

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    1. Re:More Sequels by luguvalium2 · · Score: 4, Informative

      There was already a sequal: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079576/

    2. Re:More Sequels by tomcode · · Score: 1

      And a live action role-playing game!

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    3. Re:More Sequels by renderhead · · Score: 2, Funny

      As several others have pointed out, there's already been a sequel. The solution is obvious: it's prequel time!

      Coming next summer: Clean, American Walls!

      Soon afterwards, we'll see a "re-release" of the original movie. Of course, Ron Howard will drive a flying car in this one because that's really what Lucas wanted all along. And Harrison Ford's bit character will be replaced by a computer-generated, talking duck. And Wolfman will be-- get this-- an actual Wolf-Man! This is going to be great!

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  10. why does he have to keep working? by floodo1 · · Score: 0

    cant he just sit back and revel in being stupid rich?

    idk, personally i'd rather sit back and NOT work. seems like trying to reinvent yourself really isnt worth it.

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    1. Re:why does he have to keep working? by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

      Not if you love your job.
      Now, the one you propose is what i call a poor life.

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    2. Re:why does he have to keep working? by pharwell · · Score: 1

      when you have the creative energy, it doesn't matter if you make no money or a ton of money. you still want to create art. that's why mega-rich bands still put out records, etc. because they still feel the need to use their creative energies. that's just part of being an artist/creative type.

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    3. Re:why does he have to keep working? by floodo1 · · Score: 0

      yeah cuz life is poor when you dont work???????

      work is highly overrated for idk the majority of people. when you're working because you want to work, well then work is great, but if you're working to pay bills or to survive then work isnt so great.

      all im saying is that if i get rich im doing 2 things: 1) bringing my friends up to richness with me 2) NOT WORKING!

      suppose it depends on how you define work tho

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    4. Re:why does he have to keep working? by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

      No, it depends on how you define life. If you define life as a short period of time where you get to exist, and you know about the existence of time before you were born, and you know they will be time after you are dead, and you won't exist at those times, you only have got a portion of that time, and still, you have an obligation with that past and with that future, to remember that past, and to leave a better world for those that will came after you, then you will understand just how important work is, whatever you do, it's what you will leave for the next generations. After that, your other purpose in life, is to ENJOY it. Life is wonderful, because it's the ONLY thing you will get to live ;-).
      But many people are absolutely misleaded, and they instead live for religions, corporations, money, government, and other atrocities that this sick society has created.

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  11. Re:who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Star Trek utopia is for wussies.

    I'll take B5 and Farscape any time over the oh-so-good-and-moral-federation ST.

  12. new album out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hear that George Lucas is going to try his luck out with singing. He's going to start a rock band. Hey, Robery Downey Jr. is doing it...

  13. Its the sad truth by the_mutha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lucas should have stuck to what he was good at: having a fertile imagination, having the knack of transferring the detailed worlds he created to the big screen and being a very successfull business man in terms of negotiating with the big studios merchandising rights and so on.

    Unfortunately he made the huge mistake of trying to be director again, instead of just a producer. IMHO, the best Star Wars movies where episodes V and VI, both of which he didn't direct.

    Maybe he could come up with something totally new and awe inspiring with SOME story this time. Gone are the days where eye candy was enough to make a great hit.

    1. Re:Its the sad truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gone are the days where eye candy was enough to make a great hit. Umm maybe you haven't noticed but those movies still make a crapload of cash. (unfortunately)

    2. Re:Its the sad truth by solios · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Gone are the days where eye candy was enough to make a great hit.


      Bull. Look at how much the "cleaned up" rereleases of IV-VI grossed. Look at what Ep2 grossed and how many people were all OMFG YODA LIGHT SABER FIGHT!!!!!!!!! The mere idea was fanservice. Pure eye candy. Straight up conceptual bullshit.

      Oh, and that fanservice piece of CRAP grossed $649,476,740 worldwide.

      Yeah, that doesn't beat Titanic but I'll be damned if the movie had anything I'd consider "redeeming" from a non eye-candy perspective. And Lucas is still rolling in dough.
    3. Re:Its the sad truth by blackmonday · · Score: 1

      If by making a "huge mistake" you mean making hundreds of millions of dollars, sign me up.

      Sure the movies aren't that great, but were you really expecting to see something revolutionary? The Star Wars films have always been popcorn movies. It's not his fault we nerds take them so seriously. He's a filmmaker, and a very succesful one. I can't wait for the new Star Wars movie, or the upcoming Indiana Jones sequel. But I'm not expecting either to top 2001: A Space Odyssey. Just fun to watch on the big screen.

    4. Re:Its the sad truth by cens0r · · Score: 2, Insightful

      IMHO, the best Star Wars movies where episodes V and VI, both of which he didn't direct.

      Are you freaking serious? ROTJ was easily the worst movie of the original trilogy. In fact I'd say it battles it out with TPM for the worst movie in the series. The best thing I can usually say about it is that it resolves the series nicely, and episode III makes it much better.

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    5. Re:Its the sad truth by fbjon · · Score: 1
      Precisely. Anyone who claims episodes 4-6 are teh best movies 3v4h is merely caught up in nostalgia. They are fun to watch, even multiple times, but that's their primary quality. Episodes 1-3 continue in the same vein. Well, 1-2 at least. The reason people complain, is because Lucas somehow wasn't able to include magical nostalgia in the package. I wonder why...

      I'm pretty sure that, when I buy the 1-3 dvd box, I'll be glad I have such a big story finally completed. One that I will enjoy watching from start to beginning. If you have expected the three new movies to be "the same", then you should've realized long ago that it's neither possible (nostalgia), nor a good thing (poor storytelling). It's not a tv series.

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    6. Re:Its the sad truth by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 1

      It's the only way to make a great hit. Without you can just make a quite successful movie, but not a hit.

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    7. Re:Its the sad truth by imsabbel · · Score: 1

      I cannot agree.
      The only bad thing with episode 6 were the ewoks. But now with jarjar, even their annoyance factor pales (and i actually liked them when i was 8 or so :D )

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    8. Re:Its the sad truth by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 1

      As long as we're dealing with the sad truth... ...maybe he should go dig up Leigh Brackett and beg her for help.

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    9. Re:Its the sad truth by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because you know what and what not a 3 foot high fictional little green man can and can't do. Why does this bother you so much? I prefer the new episode light saber fights to the stupid stand and swing battles of the first movie. These are swords made out of light, the battles in the new ones are much more how _I_ would imagine them being, especially with people with supernatural abilities. Obi-wan and Darth facing off in the first movie made it seem like they were fighting with 80 lb long swords or something, not fast and light katanas. ...

      Am I really arguing the merits of a light saber battle? Excuse me, I need to go do something extremely manly right now, thanks.

  14. Re:who cares by outz · · Score: 0

    ok, you're right. They completely ruined it with 'enterprise' and 'voyager' Stargate FOREVA!

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  15. What about re-releases? by syntap · · Score: 5, Funny

    Certainly in five or ten years we'll get new, blu-ray hi-def versions of I thru III, with Lucas saying in interviews "I added the new scenes to get the movie I really wanted, which I didn't get back then."

    1. Re:What about re-releases? by pg110404 · · Score: 1

      I like how these guys put it

      http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServ let/showid-344/epid-174279/[Free HAT]

      Maybe he'll re-re-release 4, 5 and 6 on blu-ray replacing all the laser pistols with walkie-talkies and changing the word 'rebels' with 'terrorists' to make it more current and P.C.

  16. efw by dotslashdot · · Score: 1, Funny

    George Lucas sold out a long time ago in a Galaxy far away.

    1. Re:efw by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 0

      Agreed. Many, many parsecs ago.

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  17. Name something good by Lucas by njfuzzy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I hate to be so blunt, but he is struggling to invent himself because he has not released a single good movie outside of the Star Wars series. Ever.

    He isn't a great filmmaker. He isn't even a passable mass-market filmmaker. He's a guy who made a cult hit that happened to be a global hit.

    And then he made a series with Spielberg.

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    1. Re:Name something good by Lucas by Tyler+Eaves · · Score: 5, Informative

      Indiana Jones?

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    2. Re:Name something good by Lucas by crivens · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "outside"?? What about including the Star Wars movies? One sucked so bad that I didn't bother see the second one.

      The funny thing is, I watched the originals while growing up and thought they were fantastic. Now I think they're just crappy films that are fun to watch.

      Maybe I'll think the same about the first three in 20 years time. No surely not!!!

    3. Re:Name something good by Lucas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There were a couple of good ones before Star Wars, American Grafiti and THX. But basically you're right its been 30 years since he did anything good. His contributations to movie tech have been more substantial.

    4. Re:Name something good by Lucas by solios · · Score: 1

      Lucas is at his best when he's producing other, more talented individuals interpretations of his creative work. Witness Jedi and ESB. Willow (co-writer) was also fairly enjoyable.

      The area he's always been strong in, imo, is his ear for sound- Freiheit and THX-1138 come to mind. Not to mention the original Star Wars.

    5. Re:Name something good by Lucas by SPrintF · · Score: 3, Insightful

      THX1138
      American Graffitti

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    6. Re:Name something good by Lucas by GileadGreene · · Score: 4, Insightful
      American Graffiti?
      THX-1138?
      These were not good movies? Or do they just not count because they were made before you were born?

      I'll admit, Lucas has had some real stinkers (Howard the Duck, Willow). And I've been less than impressed with Eps I and II. But I wouldn't write the guy off completely just yet. He did have some real talent once upon a time. Hopefully he can rediscover it.

    7. Re:Name something good by Lucas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this post modded as informative? It completely ignores the movie American Graffiti. To say that Lucas never produced a good movie outside the Star Wars series just shows that njfuzzy doesn't know much about the movies Lucas did create outside of Star Wars. Perhaps someone needs to broaden their cinematic palate.

      So, was he just modded up as informative becuase he was "informing" us of his wildly innacurate opinion, or what?

    8. Re:Name something good by Lucas by njfuzzy · · Score: 1

      I haven't seen American Graffiti. THX-1138 was a serious stinker.

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    9. Re:Name something good by Lucas by Palshife · · Score: 2, Informative

      That would be the afforementioned series with Spielberg.

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    10. Re:Name something good by Lucas by JWW · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He also created the best special effects company in the movie business.

      Started the outfit that later spun off from his empire to create Pixar.

      Owns the company that does sound work for most movies.

      Say what you will about George and the Star Wars movies, He's actually made more of a contribution to filmmaking outside of the Star Wars franchise than within it.

    11. Re:Name something good by Lucas by dknight · · Score: 1

      whoa whoa whoa, back up!

      Did you just say Howard the Duck and Willow were stinkers???

      You, my friend, have no sense of humor! ;)

      Those movies are great in an "Evil Dead" kind of way.

    12. Re:Name something good by Lucas by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2, Funny
      Lucas has had some real stinkers (Howard the Duck, Willow)

      Howard was pretty fowl.
      It's simply rediculous to have a pint sized non-human battling evil like that.

    13. Re:Name something good by Lucas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because you have terrible taste in movies and are easily amused, doesn't invalidate the premise that Lucas is a hack.

    14. Re:Name something good by Lucas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indiana Jones?

      the OP mentions "...and then he made a movie with Spielberg", which is Indiana Jones. Speilberg directed, Lucas wrote.

      FWIW, though, Lucas didn't direct Empire or RotJedi, either. So, arguments against Lucas' directorial abilities vs. writing abilities are flawed.

    15. Re:Name something good by Lucas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Started the outfit that later spun off from his empire to create Pixar.

      Pixar, which then tanked and floundered for the better part of a decade before taken over by new leadership (i.e. Steve Jobs and the people hired under his watch.)

    16. Re:Name something good by Lucas by noewun · · Score: 1
      I hate to be so blunt, but he is struggling to invent himself because he has not released a single good movie outside of the Star Wars series. Ever

      American Grafitti and THX 1138

      Both very good movies. The first three Star Wars movies weren't bad. If Lucas makes more like THX, then I will be interested. As it is there's no way I'm paying to see Revenge of the Sith in the theatres. I will wait until it's on HBO for free so I can switch to Iron Chef America whenever a character opens his or her mouth.

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    17. Re:Name something good by Lucas by beerman2k · · Score: 1

      See American Graffiti.

    18. Re:Name something good by Lucas by EvilBudMan · · Score: 1

      American Graffiti? Didn't you like that?

    19. Re:Name something good by Lucas by dasunt · · Score: 1
      I'll admit, Lucas has had some real stinkers (Howard the Duck, Willow).

      Willow? Willow?

      Can you name 10 sword & sorcery fantasy movies[1] that were better than Willow?

      (I hope I'm wrong. I want a list of 10 decent sword & sorcery fantasy movies.)

      PS: I have yet to understand the appeal of THX-1138.

      [1] Series count as one movie.

    20. Re:Name something good by Lucas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What new leadership are you talking about? Steve has always owned Pixar. He bought it from Lucas in 1986.

    21. Re:Name something good by Lucas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Howard the Duck? Crap.

      Willow? Golden.

    22. Re:Name something good by Lucas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've mispelled "thinker".

      But I'm not surprised.

    23. Re:Name something good by Lucas by GileadGreene · · Score: 1

      I'll admit that Mad Martigan had his moments :)

    24. Re:Name something good by Lucas by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

      He also created the best special effects company in the movie business.

      I'm confused, Lucas didn't have anything to do with WETA?

      (I kid)

    25. Re:Name something good by Lucas by snuf23 · · Score: 1

      10 fantasy films better than Willow. Hmm that's a hard one.

      LOTR: Fellowship of the Ring
      LOTR: The Two Towers
      LOTR: The Return of the King

      What! Series counts as one movie? Who makes these arbitrary rules.

      Jason and the Argonauts
      Sinbad (3 movie series)

      Ok, umm...

      Conan the Barbarian?
      Clash of the Titans?
      Beastmaster?
      The Sword and the Sorceror?
      Kull the Conqueror?

      Uh.....

      I know... Krull!

      (Ok, I give up.)

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    26. Re:Name something good by Lucas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Star Wars isn't any good either (my opinion). Although the tartakovsky star wars cartoon series was excellent (did lucas have anything to do with that?).

    27. Re:Name something good by Lucas by GileadGreene · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Willow seemed (to me) like a tired retread of Star Wars ideas (kind of like 'Days of Thunder' to 'Top Gun'). Anyway, since you've deliberately made it harder by adding the restriction that "series count as one movie", how about:
      1. LotR
      2. Conan the Barbarian (not the Destroyer)
      3. Highlander
      4. Ladyhawke
      5. Excalibur
      6. Henry V (Branagh's version)
      7. The 7th Voyage Of Sinbad
      8. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
      9. The Princess Bride
      10. Robin Hood (Patrick Bergin version)
      Realizing of course that a lot of this comes down to personal taste. It probably also depends on how you define "sword & sorcery".
    28. Re:Name something good by Lucas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay, wow. These two got a 5, and a 3? Let me try?

      The afforementioned series? You mean Indiana Jones wasn't just a crazy guy in my basement?

    29. Re:Name something good by Lucas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's face it. The guy suffers from David Bowie disease (which means he hasn't done anything good since the '70s) AG and THX were the best films he's made. Star Wars 4,5 and 6 were ok, after that it all went downhill.

    30. Re:Name something good by Lucas by Palshife · · Score: 1

      I like your style. I would mod you up, if I could ;)

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    31. Re:Name something good by Lucas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Willow seemed (to me) like a tired retread of Star Wars ideas (kind of like 'Days of Thunder' to 'Top Gun').

      I always thought it "borrowed" way more from The Hobbit and LoTR than Star Wars.

      Realizing of course that a lot of this comes down to personal taste. It probably also depends on how you define "sword & sorcery".

      Well and the GP asked for "fanasty" which you could argue that "sword & sorcery" is a subset of that. For my humble and annoymous opinion is that two of on your list are not fantasy. "Henry V" is historical fiction/shakespearean adaptation. Robin Hood (any version) is fiction based on a legend, but it set in hum-drum medival England without any magical or fantastic elements.

      Also, Excalibur is questionable, the original legend of King Authur would qualify as fantasy (IMHO), I mean even the sword Excalibur was more of a symbol (in that movie) than anything else. Monty Python and the Holy Grail had more fantasy portrayed on the screen than Excalibur.

      Do you have any alternatives?

  18. Bring back Indy!! by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For starters, he could make the fourth Indiana Jones movie that the fans have been waiting for years. And he doesn't have much time left, given Harrison Ford's age...

    1. Re:Bring back Indy!! by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      have you watched ep1 and ep2?

      now, why would he need harrision ford to make a totally fucked up indiana jones film?

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    2. Re:Bring back Indy!! by Turd+Rippleton · · Score: 0

      Not sure if they have decided on a name yet...

      Indiana Jones: Raiders of the Lost Diaper
      Indiana Jones: The Battle Against Hip-Replacement Surgery
      Indiana Jones: Adventures of Alzheimer's

      I could keep this up all day!

    3. Re:Bring back Indy!! by Jezral · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ask and you shall receive: http://imdb.com/title/tt0367882/

    4. Re:Bring back Indy!! by Jezral · · Score: 1

      ...and in replying to myself, I just read the little snippet saying 'shelved'. Oh well.

    5. Re:Bring back Indy!! by MemoryDragon · · Score: 1

      Ahh come on... there are still at least 15 years where he can do, Indiana Jones and the Lost Dentals movie :-)

    6. Re:Bring back Indy!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
      Yet, Lucas just confirms it's in the works.
      Regarding the grown up Indiana Jones, people wanted to know when the man in the hat was coming back. "As a matter of fact, I just received the new script two days ago. I have yet to read it," he said. "I'd like to be able to read it this weekend. I'll be talking to Steven on Monday, and then we'll figure out what we're going to do. So, it's definitely in the works."
    7. Re:Bring back Indy!! by maotx · · Score: 1

      Don't be to quick to consider it 'shelved'.
      This is like the 6th time its happened.
      Check out the realted forum to see that it's up again.

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  19. Star Wars, the musical? by mynzai · · Score: 1

    "With the Star Wars saga ending, Lucas now struggles with how to reinvent himself."

    I wouldn't be suprised if we see Star Wars, the musical. Choreographed by Lucas himself. Except the actors will be droids and Lucas will command them from a mothership hovering over the stage.

    1. Re:Star Wars, the musical? by JossiRossi · · Score: 1

      Already made, some kids from MIT made and performed it. It was so good that they were asked to perform it for one of the Star Wars conventions either coming shortly, or have just happened.

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    2. Re:Star Wars, the musical? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...and Lucas will command them from a mothership hovering over the stage."

      I think George Clinton has the copyright on that particular trick.

  20. Forget that... by solios · · Score: 1

    ... why hasn't Lucas cashed in on the current cultural hardon for fantasy with a cleaned up re-release of WILLOW?

    Seriously. Take the pre-composite footage of the confrontation with Bavmorda (sp?), replace with current effects technology, re-release. Instant club hit.

    That, or Lucas can do what he did with Star Wars (the best of which he didn't direct) - write and direct a shitty prequel that totally taints the setting?

    Oh, wait. He screwed that one over with a sequel. In book form, anyway.

    1. Re:Forget that... by Nos. · · Score: 1

      Please, leave Willow alone. Yes, the effects aren't the greatest, but an entertaining story line and wonderful characters make it a very enjoyable movie, and one I'm proud to own. Let him go make the next Indiana Jones. If it sucks, I'll just pretend its still a trilogy.

    2. Re:Forget that... by solios · · Score: 1

      Heh.

      Hey man, I dig Willow. Quite a bit. I enjoy watching it. It's got its funny moments and unlike LotR it isn't an ordeal to slog through.

      However, Lucas could easily clean up the last few minutes and rerelease, capitalizing on the current fantasy craze.

      Of course, he'd probably want to go further than that. :|

  21. See the wookie making whoopie! by crovira · · Score: 1

    And what about that Princess Lay-Ya?

    And I don't want to talk about Empress Amigdala. (You do kno where your amigdala is located, dontcha?)

    Too bad Han's solo...

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    1. Re:See the wookie making whoopie! by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 1

      In your temporal lobe?

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    2. Re:See the wookie making whoopie! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With easy access for squicking; all you need is a drill.

  22. Innovation by Kwirl · · Score: 5, Informative

    George Lucas is backing the development of a 350 million dollar studio that will combine the functionality of movie special effects with the equipment for video game animation and design features. By combining these two very closely related fields into one mega-location, G.L. is going to ultimately have an impact on entertainment that goes well beyond the scope of "Star Wars" - but even with that titanian accomplishment, there is little chance he will be remembered as such. Ultimately, the innovation that gave him his status is the same innovation that will be tagged to his name inside every electronic wikipedia of the future, and he can't do anything to change that. While many of us rightfully bashed Lucas' work on the first and second (fourth and fifth) Star Wars movies, myself included, he deserves the credit he has earned as a producer and financeer of special effects. Jar Jar sucks, but G.L. will always be a hero in my book for the contributions he has made to computer animation and special effects over the course of his career.

    1. Re:Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      IMHO, the animation of Jar Jar does not suck. The proof is that everyone hates him so much. He is realistically annoying.

  23. Tips from other Directors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If he wants to figure out how to branch out from his original world and set of characters, he should consult with other directors who have already done it.

    Like *cough* Kevin Smith.

    1. Re:Tips from other Directors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he wants to figure out how to branch out from his original world and set of characters, he should consult with other directors who have already done it.

      Like *cough* Kevin Smith.

      Yeah, but I always wished that Kevin Smith would bring back that Jay and Silent Bob guys he had from Clerks. Maybe they could make a cameo appearance in a later film or something...

  24. Quit with the stories about this guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not only do I not care about Lucas, I'm tired of hearing about him. He made _a_ decent movie years ago and has been sucking the teet of marketing ever since. Why does this make him special or worthy of front page news?

  25. Yes, the musical! by Tackhead · · Score: 2, Funny
    Met him on a ranch up in San Rafael,
    Saw him doing CGI, for a character that looked like mucas,
    M-U-C-U-Mucus...

    I saw the obese fuck in his valley of fog,
    Asked him his name and in a raspy voice, he said "Lucas".
    L-U-C-A-Lucas,
    Lu-Lu-Lu-Lu Lucas...

    Well I've been around, but I ain't never seen,
    A guy who raped all our childhoods in a manner obscene,
    Oh, George Lucas.
    Lu-Lu-Lu-Lu Lucas...

    And I'm not dumb, but I can't understand,
    How Jar Jar and the Ewoks came from Emperor's Hand,
    Oh, George Lucas.
    Lu-Lu-Lu-Lu Lucas...

    Well, I got hired just a week before,
    And I've never ever been a marketing whore,
    But Georgy-porgy set me straight with force,
    Told me "do water specials, with MonCal boobs, of course!"

    I know George Lucas has me really annoyed,
    But remember, if you kill him then I'll be unemployed,
    Oh, George Lucas.
    Lu-Lu-Lu-Lu Lucas...

    Episode 5's how I want it to stay,
    But I need to feed my family, so to the Sith I will pray,
    For George Lucas,
    Lu-lu-lu-lu-Lucas...

    (Thanks, Weird Al, for that second-last verse.)

    1. Re:Yes, the musical! by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      Expansion of "Yoda" by Weird Al, to the tune of "Lola," for those who don't know.

  26. I've got an idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He could reinvent himself by stopping the tenderizing of deceased horseflesh and make better movies as he gets older.

  27. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Lucas lost it years ago.

  28. American Grafiti, Episode 1) the Diaper years by mrycar · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would just DIE to see a prequel of America Grafiti. Imagine a series about young Ron Howard and company.

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    1. Re:American Grafiti, Episode 1) the Diaper years by fr2asbury · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, it'd would be called The Andy Griffith Show.

    2. Re:American Grafiti, Episode 1) the Diaper years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Turns out Ron's father was the leader of the greaser gang. We see him go from decorated ROTC member to full-on evil dude because they wouldn't let him run with scissors.

    3. Re:American Grafiti, Episode 1) the Diaper years by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

      Wait! I'm having a vision:

      Aan-dee!

      What is it Aunt Bea?

  29. Hard to get away from star wars... by tyates · · Score: 1

    when you live at SKYWALKER RANCH.
    Anyway, I think Lucas does have a lot of strengths, it's just that coming up with an emotionally compelling story isn't one of them. What if he teamed up with existing sci fi writers and brought their stories to the screen? He would be a great producer, and then he could help find up-and-coming directors and authors.

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  30. Knights of the Old Republic by SirChris · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I want a knights of the old republic movie,

    and timothy zahn's ones with admiral thrawn..

    but made by the people who did pitch black or soldier

  31. great movies that no one wants to see by ericmarshall · · Score: 5, Funny
    From TFA:

    "I've earned the right to fail, which means making what I think are really great movies that no one wants to see."

    This is in contrast to his previous strategy of making really bad movies that everyone wants to see.

    1. Re:great movies that no one wants to see by Bones3D_mac · · Score: 1

      You mean like Howard the Duck?

      (Still one of my favorites, even if Lucas never admits to working on it.)

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  32. For where I sit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...he ain't struggling hard enough.

  33. I say give the man a chance. by DrunkenTerror · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everyone's so quick to bash Lucas, but seriously, have you people been paying any attention to his media campaign lately? He's really coming off like he's sorry for ep 1 & 2, and the whole special edition thing... I mean, ep is gonna be PG-13?!? He's said it'll be "Star Wars goes to Hell," for chissakes. That doesn't sound like the words of a man milking some cash-cow for all its worth... If it were, he'd be coming with more furry little ewaks.

    Say what you want, but Lucas has always stuck to his guns over the years, creating HIS vision on the screen, not kowtowing what to a bunch of acned sci-fi dorks want to see. That takes integrity. Only time will tell if he can withstand the onslaught of attacks from lesser "fans" who probably never even filmed so much as a school play!

    1. Re:I say give the man a chance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you have a media campaign trying to appeal to Star Wars fans and Episode 3 coming out soon. Do the math.

    2. Re:I say give the man a chance. by Canthros · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Star Wars goes to Hell"?

      Didn't that happen six years ago?

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    3. Re:I say give the man a chance. by fbjon · · Score: 1
      I think a lot of people here are watching the movies like they are serious, separate movies. I think of the bigger picture:

      Act I - Introduction, presentation, nothing too heavy.

      Act II - Development of theme.

      Act III - Things go to hell, deep hit, everybody's in trouble.

      Act IV - A glimmer of hope, and action ensues.

      Act V - More, unexpected development. More trouble.

      Act VI - Big resolution, grande finale.

      It makes sense if you take the time to think about it. How else would you construct a grand story like this? Massive storyline and tons of info in the first act? How would you my-childhood-was-destroyed-and-I-have-to-complain type people design a movie in 6 parts?

      I believe that, for example, Jar-Jar has his place as comic relief, simply because it's just the first act, for fsck's sake. The first act of a long story spanning the life and death of one character, you-know-who.

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    4. Re:I say give the man a chance. by Golias · · Score: 1

      That doesn't sound like the words of a man milking some cash-cow for all its worth.

      Actually, that's exactly what it sounds like.

      "Okay okay, so the last two movies were much weaker than the ones which came before, and my changes to the original films were probably ill-advised and added nothing to the story while replacing a historical archive of some of the most inventive special effects in film history with third-rate CGI. I get it... ... but this NEXT movie... Woo boy, is it ever a hum-dinger! Lining up and paying ten bucks to see it on opening weekend would be a bargain at half the price! Honest! Would I ever lie to you?"

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    5. Re:I say give the man a chance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually I think he said it was like Star Wars meets Titanic.... Biggest money makers ever....

      Oh no he meant the drama....

      Freudian Slip?

    6. Re:I say give the man a chance. by Golias · · Score: 1

      You know when they lost me? When it was revealed that Anikin Skywalker built C3PO.

      I mean, come on! It's a story that spans multiple planets, and George Lucas has to make every damn thing in the story about his main dozen-or-so characters.

      Having Luke and Leah being Darth's kids is one thing, but this was the point when I thew up my hands and said "enough."

      Then, in "Attack of the Clones" they reveal that Boba Fett's father is the genetic source for all the stormtrooper clones. WTF?

      In the third film watch for the following revelations:

      1. Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru bought their farm from Watto.

      2. Obi-Wan built IG88 in order to track down Jango Fett's son.

      3. Han Solo is actually Palpatine's lost son and heir, and Grand Moff Tarkin is his brother. Darth Maul was their mother.

      4. Yoda and Obi-Wan survive the Clone Wars in Episode 3 because they are saved at the last moment by a child named Wedge Antilles.

      5. Jar-Jar Binks establishes a hide-out on the forth moon of Yavin, thinking it might come in handy for some kind of rebel alliance someday.

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    7. Re:I say give the man a chance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      He's really coming off like he's sorry for ep 1 & 2, and the whole special edition thing

      I'm honestly curious where you are getting this vibe from. The last interview I saw him in had him saying the special editions were how he always wanted the movies to be (a lie, but, whatever) and he pretty much pissed all over the fans who were upset with some of the changes he made (something akin to an "I don't care about their opinions" comment).

      Please provide a source where Lucas is acting sorry for anything in Eps 1/2 or the special editions, because it sure sound like you are trolling.

    8. Re:I say give the man a chance. by Slider451 · · Score: 1

      Hmm... How about...

      It is revealed that Yoda is truly the father of all Jedi. It seems he inadvertantly created them by contaminating the water supply on the countless worlds he visited over the years. Mace Windu delivers the punchline: "Dude, you've got midichlorians coming out your ass!"

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    9. Re:I say give the man a chance. by lgw · · Score: 1

      4. Yoda and Obi-Wan survive the Clone Wars in Episode 3 because they are saved at the last moment by a child named Wedge Antilles.

      Not Wedge Antilles, Senator Bail Antilles who's Padme's best friend in the Senate. I'm not sure who he'll save, but watch for it. ;)

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  34. Too much thinking ... not enough feeling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the first Star Wars movie, there were lots of stereotypes taken from old movies. It was a tribute to all the great movies that went before. It was great.

    Since then, a lot of thought has gone into explaining what the series is about and its been downhill ever since. The ultimate idiocy is Lucas' discussion about the relationship between the 'force' and Zen. Discussing Zen demonstrates that you probably don't understand Zen.

    George - Never mind all the psychologizing about Bruno Bettelheim. Just make a movie that you love. We'll all be happier.

  35. Star wars porn without leia? by deft · · Score: 1

    wow, slashdot has moved to a new level of nerdom when slave leia is left out and replaced with wookies and ewoks.

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  36. Young talent? Bah! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    How about "Sir George Lucas, CBE?"

    Then he can make crap pictures like Scorsese did, when he followed "Taxi Driver" with the appalling 'New York, New York". Scorsese recovered, because he wasn't a hack. Lucas won't - 'cos he is.

    P.S.: What Scorsese movie was spun-off as a sitcom?

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    1. Re:Young talent? Bah! by mmkkbb · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      P.S.: What Scorsese movie was spun-off as a sitcom?

      ANSWER: Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore

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    2. Re:Young talent? Bah! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1
      From the sublime to the ridiculous!

      Yes.

      Debut for Keitel, Foster, Laura Dern...

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  37. And why does he need to reinvent himself? by bennomatic · · Score: 0
    Let's face it; he's richer than Monty Burns, and his products, while questionable these days, are not quite to the same level of toxicity. It may make us sad that his day has passed, but another dog will be along soon enough.

    Heck, even Quentin Tarantino isn't as cutting-edge as he once was. And Martin Scorcese acting in the Shark Tale movie? That's hardly the Scorcese I know and love...

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    1. Re:And why does he need to reinvent himself? by PornMaster · · Score: 1

      Heck, even Quentin Tarantino isn't as cutting-edge as he once was.

      I didn't really like them, but the Kill Bill pair didn't qualify for cutting-edge in your book?

    2. Re:And why does he need to reinvent himself? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like any of us who play online games, he's still getting his ass kicked by the Koreans.

      Go check out Old Boy for an example of Kill Bill getting beaten at its own revenge-flick game.

    3. Re:And why does he need to reinvent himself? by bennomatic · · Score: 1
      Honestly, no. It was self indulgent and silly. The only part of those movies that I thought was really very cool was the anime film in the KB Part I about the one woman's childhood. That alone was worth the price of admission.

      And then when Uma Thurman spanks the young Crazy 88 kid and sends him away, it was pretty funny. But the rest of that set was waaaaay to self-consciously "cool" (with the quotes).

      Reservoir Dogs: awesome.

      Pulp Fiction: classic.

      The episode of ER he directed: great.

      The writing in True Romance: excellent.

      Sigh. Maybe I just got my hopes up too high. What do I know? I write haiku about movies I like and limericks about movies I don't.

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    4. Re:And why does he need to reinvent himself? by bennomatic · · Score: 1
      er... s/y\sto\s/y\stoo\s/

      D'oh.

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  38. From TFA: by GuyMannDude · · Score: 2, Informative

    He could always reinvent his movies.

    And Lucas isn't quite done fiddling with Star Wars. Two more TV spinoffs are in the works - one a live-action series, the other in the vein of Cartoon Network's Clone Wars - plus he's overseeing yet another rerelease of all six films, this time digitally remastered in 3-D.

    Looks like you'll get your wish! Greedo firing first in 3D! Maybe the new version will have Solo dodging the shot in Matrix-esque bullet time!

    GMD

  39. Maverik Filmmaker? by fm6 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No, Lucas was a film-school hack who's never made a really imaginative movie. His one claim to serious filmmaking was American Grafitti, which has some technical highpoints, but made no real attempt to tell a story. Then Joseph Campbell taught him how mine the mythological tradition -- which in practice came down to finding cool movies and ripping off their better scenes. The result was Star Wars, which I've always seen as the cinematic equivalent of a theme park ride. Which a lot of people seem to like -- but it's not an achievement that qualifies you as a "Maverik Filmmaker".

    1. Re:Maverik Filmmaker? by Kupek · · Score: 1

      He's a "maverick" in the sense that aside from the original Star Wars, he made very successful and expensive movies outside of the studio system. Empire and on are essentially independent films.

    2. Re:Maverik Filmmaker? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      THX 1138 wasn't an imaginative, maverick film?

      What Orwellian planet did you grow up on?

    3. Re:Maverik Filmmaker? by fm6 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      OK, I'm a little taken aback to be modded up so quickly. I expected to be flamed and punished for attacking a geek icon. I guess George Lucas lost a lot of fans with Part 1 and Part 2.

    4. Re:Maverik Filmmaker? by lawpoop · · Score: 1
      AFAIK, Joseph Campbell commented on Star Wars as mytholoby after the fact. George drew most of his inspiration from _The Hidden Fortress_, a samurai film.

      If you look through the history of creative works, you'll not find a single original idea. In screenwriting class you cover the 13 (smallest count) different stories (boy leaves home, boy gets girl, person comes home to die, etc). As Oscar Wild said, "Good artists borrow, great artists steal."

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    5. Re:Maverik Filmmaker? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Posting as an AC because I foolishly moderated a comment...

      George drew most of his inspiration from _The Hidden Fortress_, a samurai film.

      Some also note that he borrowed much from Stagecoach, a western.

      As Oscar Wilde said, "Good artists borrow, great artists steal."

      Picasso said that, too. Heh.

      If you look through the history of creative works, you'll not find a single original idea.

      Originality is of course only one of many criteria that one can use to evaluate a work's worth. One of the pleasures of practically any given work of art, music, film, fiction, etc. is its allusiveness; finding a familiar image, phrase, or theme doesn't necessarily lessen the work -- instead it can deepens the viewer/reader/listener's intellectual engagement with the work, allowing one to draw upon one's existing store of knowledge to make connections and to see the borrowed material in new ways.

      Beyond that, there's nothing wrong with a little mindless escapism every now and then.

    6. Re:Maverik Filmmaker? by lawpoop · · Score: 1
      "Picasso said that, too. "

      I was going to make a joke about that fact depending on whether you consider Picasso a good artists or a great artist, but instead I looked it up on wikiquote and they have it as such:

      "Bad artists copy. Great artists steal."

      * Possibly originally "Los mediocres imitan. Los talentosos, roban." or "Los grandes artistas copian, los genios roban." etc.

      My favorite quote attributed to Picasso is

      "Los ordenadores son inútiles. Sólo pueden darte respuestas."* Translation: "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."

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    7. Re:Maverik Filmmaker? by X86Daddy · · Score: 1

      Lucas was a film-school hack who's never made a really imaginative movie

      Exactly my thoughts after seeing his biography, "George Lucas in Love." It really explained how he got all his ideas in film school. ;-)

    8. Re:Maverik Filmmaker? by lee1026 · · Score: 1

      Los ordenadores son inútiles. Sólo pueden darte respuestas."* Translation: "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." How would he know about computers? After all computers are not around in his time.

    9. Re:Maverik Filmmaker? by lawpoop · · Score: 1

      Dude, he died in 1973.

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    10. Re:Maverik Filmmaker? by davidyorke · · Score: 1

      I totally agree in that as a "filmmaker" (i.e.: director) he is a total hack. As a producer (as one of the replies noted) he has broken a lot of the old rules, but that had more to do with business than art. He found a better "how" but borrowed most, if not all, of his "what".

  40. reinvent a good idea by digitaldc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Star Wars was/is a great idea, but the Empire Strikes Back was the best movie of the series in my opinion. It was directed by Irvin Kershner, screenplay written with Lawrence Kasdan and produced by Gary Kurtz, Lucas had a lot of creative help in making that film which turned out to be wonderful.
    To reinvent oneself, you have to create yourself in the first place. Star Wars was a culmination of his story ideas with actors and movie techniques that have never been seen before. This is the key to its success.
    Unfortunately, time and time again when directors/actors/musicians get older and have kids, their creativity is geared toward kid-friendly productions that their own kids can watch or sing along with them. This G-rated kid-friendly mindset sometimes kills creativity. He needs to get back to his 1970s mindset where he had to create something that has never been seen/done/heard of before - and not worry about what his audience thinks. (easier said than done) The upcoming 3D Star Wars is a start, but it is still cashing in on an old idea. Anyway, good luck George!

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    1. Re:reinvent a good idea by p3d0 · · Score: 1
      ...produced by Gary Kurtz...
      I thought Martin Sheen killed that guy at the end of Apocalypse Now.
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  41. That's easy! by Anita+Coney · · Score: 2, Funny

    Howard the Duck II, Revenge of the Fowl

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    1. Re:That's easy! by Spock+the+Baptist · · Score: 2, Funny

      More like Revenge of the Foul....

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  42. He still has a few years by c0ldfusi0n · · Score: 1

    I mean, how many of his movies have not been digitally remasterized?

    That oughta keep him busy for some time!

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  43. What lies ahead for George Lucas? by Eminence · · Score: 1

    A nice, Star Wars themed funeral, possibly attended by thousands of fans dressed up as Darth Vaders, Obi Wan Kenobis and the like. Afterwards, a Star Wars themed grave or mausoleum to which aforementioned fans would organize pilgrimages.

  44. Yea. Talk about fuckin' wich ur mind. by crovira · · Score: 1

    Nothing I wanna see. YUCK!!!

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  45. Digitally Remaster Himself by th1ckasabr1ck · · Score: 3, Funny

    He just needs to digitally remaster himself, that's the key to the future right there

    1. Re:Digitally Remaster Himself by shoptroll · · Score: 1

      And you forgot that he needs to write a biography of his recent years, wait a few years, and then write a biography of his early childhood, and then do a revised version of the recent years bio to make it fit with the early childhood.

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  46. Reinvent, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot story prediction for next year:

    George Lucas plans on releasing a prequel to the popular, 70's classic, American Graffiti 2. In the new, THX-enhanced version, Jar Jar Binks plays the supporting role of a Jamacian pot smuggler.

  47. Struggles?! by Da+VinMan · · Score: 0

    I think not. The only people struggling here are the ones coming to grips that Lucas doesn't owe them anything. He's got nothing left to prove. He doesn't have to care what anyone thinks. If he wants to spend the rest of his days commissioning high-end corporate campuses for his pet projects (a hobby of his), that's his prerogative.

    My only "regret" about his career is that he's not going to make the last 3 movies in the series of original 9 books. I have confidence though, that if he thought they would be worth making, that he would have already done that.

    Notice this quote from his interview: "I've earned the right to fail, which means making what I think are really great movies that no one wants to see."

    And kudos to him. Hopefully, he can squeeze off some more masterpieces before that heart supporting that great furry frame of his gives out.

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    1. Re:Struggles?! by megarich · · Score: 1

      I kinda have an awe for the man, i mean i wish i had the power to brain wash people enough by making something they like and mile it to every .01 penny its worth, then tell them later on to "f off you got me here by wanting to see my movies, but i dont care about you anymore" and still have people defend me!

    2. Re:Struggles?! by Nastard · · Score: 1

      Original 9 books? There have been books, yes, but all either based on or an extension of the movies, not the other way around.

      There is no 7-9.

  48. Maverick young film-makers. by ShaniaTwain · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Originally a member of a maverick group of young filmmakers who were at odds with the thinking and methods of the major studios, he has now become the most financially successful director in history by marketing the ultimate popcorn fodder.

    isn't this just the way it goes?

    the counter-culture becomes the over-the-counter culture.

    Maybe we could get those hinterland kids to produce Jar-Jar cups for taco bell, or Obiwan Bobble heads for your car..

    1. Re:Maverick young film-makers. by acroyear · · Score: 1

      Sting observed that when The Police finally hit #1 with Synchronicity -- when did the "alternative" become the mainstream?

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  49. That's nothing by Quattro+Vezina · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm still waiting for Howard the Duck 2!

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  50. Earned the right... by Roached · · Score: 1

    Quote from the article:

    "I've earned the right to fail, which means making what I think are really great movies that no one wants to see."

    He actually decided to start doing this a few years ago...

    1. Re:Earned the right... by mankey+wanker · · Score: 1

      You are SO right!

  51. Re:Reinvent this... by techsoldaten · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe Lucas could refocus his energies on becoming a universal first poster to Slashdot forums.

    M

  52. Revenge of the Brick by Infinite+Entropy · · Score: 1

    Cartoon Network has a new starwars CGI film coming out called Revenge of the Brick. Its all lego based and seems very surreal. I think Lego gave Lucas a ton of money for this to be made. Just wondering if anyone else has heard of it?

    1. Re:Revenge of the Brick by JaxGator75 · · Score: 1
      The Lego Star Wars game is MUCH fun...

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  53. re-releases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    In 20 years they will be re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-releasing the platinum version where we find out those stupid teddy bears on Endor were really made out of chocolate.

  54. Hate to burst your bubble... by Da+VinMan · · Score: 1

    During his interview with 60 Minutes a couple weeks or so ago, he flat out said that he would not be making 7,8, & 9. Not only that, he doesn't see anyone carrying that torch either.

    You may claim you can take it or leave it, but you really do project a sort of disappointed wistfulness about the subject. Maybe you just expected too much?

    As far as his vanishing goes - all in good time. To my knowledge, we all die sometime. Till then, we may as well have some options. New talent will emerge with the usual noise to signal ratio.

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    1. Re:Hate to burst your bubble... by Gruneun · · Score: 2, Funny
      During his interview with 60 Minutes a couple weeks or so ago, he flat out said that he would not be making 7,8, & 9.

      I, for one, will believe that statement well after he's:

      released the E1-E3 DVD Box Set

      released the E1-E3 Collector DVD Box Set

      released the E1-E6 Super Collector DVD Box Set

      released the Remastered E1-E6 Super Collector DVD Box Set

      released the E1-E6 Ultimate-Jedi DVD Box Set with Extra Wookie

      dead and buried

      Even then, I would hesitate to purchase a box set on account of him screwing me over so many previous times.

    2. Re:Hate to burst your bubble... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      What about
      • released the Remastered E1-E6 Super Collector BluRay/HD-DVD Box Set
      • and 15 other new formats that the consumer electronics industry will invent over the next 30 years to make us buy all the same crap over again, again
      ;-)
  55. Absolutely! by maynard · · Score: 1

    but it's not an achievement that qualifies you as a "Maverik Filmmaker".

    The real maverick filmmakers are folks like Terrence Malick, Todd Solondz, and Paul Thomas Anderson. Lucas was, and will always be, a shoddy filmmaker. *sigh* IMO the best Hollywood SF film from the 70s was Alien, not Star Wars. Not even close. --M

  56. Here we go, another "Lucas" bitchfest... by DroopyStonx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    blah blah blah, Lucas ruined my childhood, blah blah blah Episode 1 sucked, blah blah blah more money for his Yachts blah blah blah.

    Meanwhile, your hypocritical asses are the FIRST ONES IN LINE to shell out $$ to see the new movies... and you do it multiple times.

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    1. Re:Here we go, another "Lucas" bitchfest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      except me, because I have no money..You Insensitive Clod!

  57. Lucas's original statement about 7,8,9 by GreenSwirl · · Score: 1

    Then he has already reinvented himself. In 1980, the little flannelled one said the opposite in Time Magazine.

  58. Maybe... by Transcendent · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...he'll do what he did with all his other characters. Replace himself with a CG model.

    "This is how I always intended to look, but I didn't have the technology back then to make myself 7ft tall and partially translucent."

  59. Changes in Movies by a3217055 · · Score: 1

    I was checking out the imdb.com post of George Lucas. And all you see are Star Wars and related ( Video games etc ... ). The Star Wars universe is cool and all that but that doesn't make it sustainable. George Lucas and Steven Spielberg got together and created Indiana Jones. Then there is also Howard the Duck, we will not go there. I think George Lucas should try to make an experimental movie not about technology, future or space. Just a movie about nothing with no storyline. That is what makes a good director. But Lucas has pretty much squeezed or rather dried the last couple of drops out of the Star Wars bottle of ideas. But maybe he doesn't want to create just wants to amass more wealth and then justify it buying new toys. What ever it maybe George Lucas is the person who opened one of the doors ... As he says .. " ... if you can tune into the fantasy of a 11 year old girl, you can make a fortune in the buisness." Maybe he is more of a buisness man than anything else...

  60. Let someone else try by odinjurkowski · · Score: 1

    George Lucas has already made millions. Let someone else have a shot at it. There are already comics, books, games, etc. So let some other directors come in and make Star Wars movies. Think of the potential: someone could do a rough R-rated trilogy, someone else could make an alternate universe, some could be even greater action while others focus on characters, etc. The point is, there are a lot of ideas out there. And if Lucas wants more money, then he could ask for a couple percent of the sales for handing over the rights. Let's get those fresh ideas.

    1. Re:Let someone else try by blew_fantom · · Score: 1

      and it is HIS millions no? he has the absolute right to say how or what or who gets to mess with his brainchild. while those possibilities might carry over well in book form, in movie form, it wouldn't be part of the original star wars 'canon' and would more than likely result in MORE GL bashing; "GL shouldn't have picked that director", "GL shouldn't have done this." "GL shouldn't have done that." when will your incessant whining stop people? furthermore, when you start doing alternate universe stuff, you end up with something like x-men or gundam where the continutity is SO messed up, the casual fan no longer cares. if you don't like what he's doing or has done or will do with HIS franchise, then don't support it.

      me? i'm gonna' catch episode III at a matinee, just like i did with episodes I and II. i'm sure i'll be entertained. i'll walk out *not* thinking what a waste of money that was. and i'll forget about it. when other "normal" people see how this community gets their panties in a bunch over something like Jar-Jar, or natalie portman's midriff wardrobe, sometimes, "geeks", "dorks", "nerds" is a befitting title (and that's not in a good way)...

  61. Lucas already said what he'll do... by GPLDAN · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In several interviews, although strangely not really mentioned by the Wired reporter, he says he has several ideas for small independant films. Not in the Woody Allen sense indy, but REALLY indy, like a guy with a camera and a couple actors go out and do stuff on budgets of under $1M.

    These would unlikely be sci-fci (his words not mine) and likely be dramas and, again in his own words, have exactly zero mass appeal. So, really niche films that are very unpopular or have radical thoughts or ideas wrapped into the narrative.

    I don't know why he's chosen to do this. Unlike Speilberg and Schindler's List, he has no political or epic historical story to tell. I would say Schnidler's List is not exactly a mass market movie either.

    If small indy film is where he wants to go back to, I think he should do it. He should become a professor at USC's film school. That is really what I think would give him the most happiness. Imagine the wait list for that course.

    1. Re:Lucas already said what he'll do... by Rimbo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That could be the thing for him to do.

      The comparison to Vader in TFA seems to be an appropriate one. In the movies, Vader can't find redemption until his son comes along. In real life, it may be the heirs to his legacy who can redeem him from high-budget schlock.

      No better way to court heirs to his legacy than by teaching.

  62. A nice funeral pyre? by digitaldc · · Score: 1

    A huge pile of Jar-Jar Binks merchandise feeding the flames?

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  63. Oh! And Altman! by maynard · · Score: 1

    How could I forget Altman? His stuff from the 70s is mindblowingly original. Have you seen 3 Women? Or McCabe and Mrs. Miller? And even the lessor known The Long Goodbye? Fuck, his stuff is brilliant. --M

    1. Re:Oh! And Altman! by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Do you know what "Maverick" means? Hint: It has nothing to do with how good his films are.

      Lucas is a maverick because he snubbed the studio system *and* the various Hollywood unions, including the Actor's and Director's Guild and made big-budget blockbuster *independent* films. (Lucas paid for The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi from his profits from Star Wars; no studio backed him.)

      The closest modern director would probably be Robert Rodriguez, especially considering his recent fight with the Director's Guild over Sin City's credits.

    2. Re:Oh! And Altman! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So he developed his own big studio and was too cheap to pay scale.

      I guess that's a "kind" of maverick :(

    3. Re:Oh! And Altman! by maynard · · Score: 1

      Are you saying the directors I listed are not "maverick"? That they work within the confines of Hollywood and the studio system? 'Cause if you are, you're full of it. --M

    4. Re:Oh! And Altman! by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      No. Saying Lucas *is* a maverick is not mutually exclusive with the people you named being mavericks.

  64. Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    One thing that will not work is re-releasing the same movies every few years. I mean people will only buy something once and then you need a new idea.

    What?

    Oh... well... maybe that will work...

  65. Na, episodes IV & V. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only images I have of episode VI are ewoks, Mark Hamill's grotesque "I'm your father" grimmace, and the Han and Lea "I'll step aside since you love Luke" juvenile emotion scene. Oh, and the Jaba the Hut goes to Sesame Street part.

  66. Hm. by themassiah · · Score: 1

    For one breif, breif second, I read the title as "George Lucas Struggles to Releave Himself".

    My impetus to read the article decreased after I realized my error.

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    1. Re:Hm. by NerveGas · · Score: 1


      That reminds me of the age-old joke, did you hear about the constipated mathematician? He worked it out with a pencil an paper. (ba-ding!)

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  67. Special SPECIAL Edition - in 3-D by atlantafatmike · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One really interesting part of the article in Wired was the mention of another release of the 6 movies - this time in 3-D. Someone want to guess what he will add/subtract from the movies this time?

  68. George: Tell Smaller Stories by jfengel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, he's been doing mostly Star Wars for the last decade or so. But before that he helped write Indiana Jones, and a lot of people thought that was pretty good. He also did the story for Willow, which a lot of people liked.

    And as another poster mentioned American Graffiti was quite good, with the very, very young Harrison Ford. Maybe what he needs to do is rewatch American Graffiti, which is a very different movie from everything else he's done. That's a whole non-scifi/fantasy career track he abanandoned 30+ years ago he could revisit. Perhaps he should stop trying to tell big stories and tell little ones instead.

    1. Re:George: Tell Smaller Stories by snuf23 · · Score: 1

      "with the very, very young Harrison Ford."

      Well, he wasn't that young. Ford was born in 1942. American Graffiti came out in 1973. He was probably 30 during the shooting of the film.

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    2. Re:George: Tell Smaller Stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe what he needs to do is rewatch American Graffiti

      Yes, and then he can bring out an all new digitally remastered version with annoying CGI characters and explosions and shit!

  69. Would the REAL George Lucas please ... by kkerwin · · Score: 1
    I find this talk quite funny, considering that the real George Lucas is bishop of Springfield, IL.

    Just what the Catholic Church needs ... ewok porn.

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  70. Make Amidala Skinflicks by scoobrs · · Score: 2, Funny

    I suggest to Lucas that he target the Slashdot audience directly by making Natalie Portman naked on screen. That is if they can still stomach her after she turns evil.

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  71. Easy way to reinvent himself by nganju · · Score: 3, Funny


    He could fall into some lava and then come back as a mask-wearing, rich and powerful overlord who used to be noble but now only does things for his own personal gain.

    Well, at least the MASK would be new.

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  72. It's obvious what he's going to do by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    He's going to make episodes 7, 8 and 9. Yeah yeah, he said he wouldn't, but when has anyone in Hollywood ever left a franchise to rot on the vine when there's a dollar left to be squeezed out of it?

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    1. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by SirWhoopass · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I disagree. I know the standard Slashdot claim is that Lucas is only in it for the money. Squeezing the last dollars out of your childhood memories, etc.

      But I don't believe it.

      Look at the way he lives. Watch any of the biographies on him. He has never been someone in it for the money. See Donald Trump for an example of how someone in it for the money lives. George could afford a wildly lavish lifestyle. But he doesn't live it.

      All the money goes back into the process. ILM. THX. Skywalker Sound. LucasArts. Etc. He likes the job. He likes creating stuff. He likes being a part of new filmmaking technology. That's what he is in it for.

      I'll readily agree that he isn't necessarily very good at making movies. At least, not at making good movies. But he hit it big with Star Wars (ANH), and has leveraged it to continute doing what he likes. Fox studios would do anything to get 7-9 made, but it isn't their decision. They gave that right to Lucas back in the 70s.

    2. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet, every few years, a new version of one set of SW movies or another appears on shelves.

      And the moichandizing! Brooks was more of a prophet than he knew...

    3. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by dubious9 · · Score: 1

      He likes the job. He likes creating stuff.

      No doubt. But I think his biggest problem, is that he wants it his way, and not want his die-hard fans want. Would Star Wars have been any less successful is Lucas targeted and listened to his core constituency? Doubtful. If he didn't insist on reworking (ruining also come to mind) the classics and having a doubious plan for the 1-3 trilogy, star wars would be *great*.

      Instead we get mediocre fiction that is targeted to the 12 year old "average" movie goer, and over-hyped merchedise tie-ins. Woo. Wee.

      I imagine the sceene from "On The Waterfront" with Star Wars as Marlon Brando and Lucas as his older brother:

      "You don't understand. I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am, let's face it. It was you, George."

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    4. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      No no. He'll completely remake 4, 5, and 6 to fully realize the vision he had a filmmaker that, no matter how much he edited after the fact, he just couldn't achieve.

      Fans will denounce it, but still line up three months in advance so they can see the Death Star attack in glorious modern special effects. Just wait until you see the all CGI Darth Vader walking around. Oh, and to counter fans who said that that the ewoks should have been wookies because an army of Chewbacca kin would be awesome---well don't cry too hard when you see that Chewbacca is now an ewok. Instead of "That's 'cause droids don't tear your arms off if they lose." it will be "That's cause droids don't hit you with puppy dog eyes if they loose." : cut to an "adorable" chewie with gigantic black eyes and quivering lip.

      Oh and:

      Greedo will clearly shoot first, no lame added in shot. He will run into the bar, punch a girl, kick a dog, step on a kittens tail and then the noble Han Solo will try to steer him from the path of evil and only resort to shooting him with a tazer as a very last resort.

      That whole Darth Vader doesn't recognize Tantooine or the droids will be fixed. There will be a touching reunion scene were C3PO's loyalty is tested, he chooses to erase his memory rather than serve the empire.

      Leia won't kiss Luke on Hoth.

      Yoda won't just complain that Luke is too old, he'll totally flip out when asked to train such a decrepit geezer. (Also Obi Wan's voice over will say, "Was I any different when QuiGonn taught me?")

      Stormtroopers will aim better.

      Luke won't use "dark" powers to get into Jabba's palace. He won't kill the rancor but turn it to the ways of good, it will then break free and live a peaceful life in the desert.

      Han will still accidentally kill off Boba Fett, but the ensuing slapstick will set off a chain reaction and destroy a gigantic Hutt crime base.

      R2 will occasionally rocket around on the leg rockets he totally always had.

      Han Solo will be revealed to have an untapped force talent, which explains why Ben offered to teach him. (Which wouldn't make sense if he didn't have midichorians to begin with.) Mystic mumbo-jumbo about living energy that binds us replaced with tiny bug talk.

      Emperor takes more of an active hand in the plots of all three movies via unsubtle political manipulation.

      More footage of galactic congressional meetings on trade embargos.

      Admiral Ackbar spits a lot more (ala Gungan ruler).

      Darth Vader will be played by Christian Haydenson, right down to a digitally altered robotic voice (no more James Earl).

      In a Back to the Future-ish turn: Luke's new love interest turns out to be distant relative of Amidala who bears more than a passing resemblance to Natalie Portman.

      Then he will make 7,8, and 9.

    5. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by hkmwbz · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "But I think his biggest problem, is that he wants it his way, and not want his die-hard fans want."
      His way is the right way, since it's his creation. But anyway, listening to fans? You know why Firefox is so successful? Because Mozilla.org did the right thing and (mostly) ignored the vocal people in the community, and did what's best for Firefox, and not for the people who shout the loudest. Just because someone is vocal about something doesn't mean that they are right. What is needed is a clear vision, and someone to make all the decisions. The right decisions.

      Now, whether Lucas has made the right decisions or not... I don't think he has. But there are probably as many opinions as there are fans. He can't "listen to the fans", because "the fans" is really millions of people with different opinions!

      See what I'm saying?

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    6. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1
      I disagree. I know the standard Slashdot claim is that Lucas is only in it for the money. Squeezing the last dollars out of your childhood memories, etc. But I don't believe it.

      You're right. He's in it for the ego gratification. That's why he's taken over more of the Star Wars duties (ie, screenplay, directing, and priducing) that he didn't do the first time around when he wrote the story and was executive producer. And since he can't write dialog or direct to save his life, we have one craptastic prequel trilogy.

      Yay!

    7. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by mishna_toreh · · Score: 1

      As far as I'm concerned, I go with what George (Lucas) says, and what he said is there is going to be NO episodes 7, 8, or 9.

      I agree with some of the other posters in that contributing back to the/his art form is more important to him (and let's face it, the money wouldn't hurt either, would it? Would you turn it away?).

      He and Lucasfilms could "squeeze more dollars" out of the movie series, but as far as the FILM series goes (not the novels or comics series), what more is there? After Episode III, the saga is basically complete and "finished" (okay, well it's really just beginning...you know what I mean).

      Check it out. George even says himself that there is going to be no Episode VII:

      http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/10/60minute s/main679325.shtml

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    8. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by dubious9 · · Score: 1

      His way is the right way, since it's his creation.

      Normally I'd agree with you, but in this case I'm going to have to differ.

      Because Mozilla.org did the right thing and (mostly) ignored the vocal people in the community, and did what's best for Firefox, and not for the people who shout the loudest.

      The mozilla foundation made a browser that was faster, simpler and slimmer. All of those things the community was clamoring for. What was it that moz.org did that went against the grain?

      He can't "listen to the fans", because "the fans" is really millions of people with different opinions!

      Well, there are consensus out there. Jar Jar was almost universally reviled, Han shot first, midiclorians (or whatever the hell those were), etc. Don't get me wrong, he is a fantastic visual artist. It's just that as a director he's suppose to make dialogue come out, move the story, motivate the actors, and in general make the movie come alive. And not use clumsy plot devices. The series is rife with those.

      It seems as though (and this is not the first supposition) he thinks he is the be-all-end-all and is always right. His moving making skills have not seen an improvement or big change in 30 years. Look at how other directors evolve with their work. They'll tell you that there's always work to be done, and you never know enough. George seems to be content with the way he runs movies.

      It's a shame because when he was establishing himself, he did some really cool stuff. When he was in school a lot of his stuff was remarkable, and it was about *content* not visuals. What has he *really* done since 89? Why doesn't he apply that same zest to the news Star Wars that he did to Indiana Jones?

      Why not listen just a little bit to the vast masses, a la Ron Moore and the ecellent Battlestar Galatica? Why turn deaf ears and whine, "it's mine I'll do what I want!". Fine George, you go do that, it's your perogative. But you've fallen amoungst critics and die-hard fans alike.

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    9. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 1
      Does Lucas basically have total control?

      One thing I've noticed from my own work - having people acting as "review points" can be really helpful. If I didn't go through things like system design reviews, I wouldn't get the best system design.

      Likewise, if someone can write, produce and direct and the studio just accepts what comes out, where's the review points? If someone had given even me the script for AOTC, I'd have been flagging up all sorts of things.

      Look at some of the Pixar "behind the scenes" things. They review, review, review. All that dialogue and arguing helps make something better. They spend a ton of time getting even the story right first.

    10. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Howard The Duck. Don't forget Howard the Duck!

    11. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      R2 will occasionally rocket around on the leg rockets he totally always had.

      Man, this bugged me more than any other single detail of George's revisionist history. It just changes everything. When they crash on Tattooine at the beginning of A New Hope, now I see R2 quivering as he awkwardly drives through the desert, completely unaware of the jawa ambush he's heading into, and I think, "Dude. Why the fuck aren't you flying? Don't tell me you're out of gas because I know they keep you well stocked on that ship."

      It's like that for pretty much every scene R2 is in, now. I just shake my head. Why did you fall into the swamp on Dagobah, R2? Why didn't you just rocket the fuck out of there? Why don't you rocket down to save Lando when he's getting sucked down the Sarlacc?

      Those rockets are retarded. They defeat what made r2 cool. I liked that r2d2 was a droid constantly getting in over his head, getting into places a wobbly droid like him has no place being. Now those scenes just don't work for me.

      I know it's a pretty stupid detail, nevertheless, it makes it hard for me to enjoy the old movies like I used to. And for what... so Lucasarts could design a videogame with a rocket-powered r2d2? Thanks a lot, George.

    12. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1
      Does Lucas basically have total control?

      Yes. Story, screenplay, director, producer, and owns the studio as well as the graphics house.

      Look at some of the Pixar "behind the scenes" things. They review, review, review. All that dialogue and arguing helps make something better. They spend a ton of time getting even the story right first.

      I don't think that happens at Lucasfilms. I have a feeling (can't prove it) that George surrounds himself with yes-bots. That's why it's hard to watch the new movies without mute on, the dialog is so bad. Graphics too - the old style with puppets and such doesn't look half as dated *now* as the CG effects from the first movie.

      Bring Frank Oz back.

    13. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by DarkKnight · · Score: 1

      Totally agreed.

      I'd add that GL has become obsessed with the tools and technology rather than the basic directing skills.

      His approach seems to be to hire actors, throw them together without any direction and use what comes out. Which is fine on a normal movie but with a green screen digitally composed film there are very few cues and references.

      GL is revolutionising the medium but he's not at all interested in Star Wars other then as a convenient method / cash cow to drive the technology.

      It shows in how he's geared it to the widest audience. Hence robbing it of any relevance.

      I admire George Lucas's achievements. I just can love the current trilogy. Even ROTJ is so so.

      Lets see where he goes from here. Whether he can make good on his claims. Following the way Speilberg has in his last few films.

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    14. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      Oh I know! It's crazy. I hope that in crazy obsessive fashion Lucas will at least do some technobabble irreparable rocket damage that explains why R2 didn't use those things when they'd really be useful. Umm...his little droid memory was erased and he forgot he had rockets. Yeah.

      They weren't just hover rockets either, he could really pull some moves with those things!

      Maybe I should have added: R2 joins in the speeder chase using the rockets he totally always had.

      Did they really put a rocket-powered r2d2 in a game...man.

    15. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by ajservo · · Score: 1

      Sure you can prove it. Watch the behind the scenes materials for AOTC. It's people saying yes to George, and no one challenges him on anything, no matter the poor logic or decisions made.

    16. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by hkmwbz · · Score: 1
      "The mozilla foundation made a browser that was faster, simpler and slimmer. All of those things the community was clamoring for. What was it that moz.org did that went against the grain?"
      They didn't add all the features people wanted, and they made very unpopular decisions, such as killing the style switcher in 1.0. This was a big deal to a lot of vocal Mozilla fans.
      "Well, there are consensus out there. Jar Jar was almost universally reviled, Han shot first, midiclorians (or whatever the hell those were), etc."
      Jar-Jar? What about the Ewoks?

      I think you've been blinded by fond childhood memories ;) (If you were a child when you first saw SW, that is.)

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    17. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by dubious9 · · Score: 1

      Jar-Jar? What about the Ewoks?

      As clumsy a plot devise as the ewoks were, (what? storm trooper armor doesn't protect against small *rocks*?), they were still much better than Jar-Jar.

      If you couldn't understand Jar-Jar, like the ewoks, he would have been much more tolerable. Chewy and R2D2 are other examples of beloved non-humans, and I also attribute that to them not speaking english. C3PO? God some of those puns (What a drag!) and damn awful.

      I think you've been blinded by fond childhood memories ;)

      The first of the movies I saw (I was four at the time) was ROTJ, and I didn't see the others until much later (~10). Still I rank ANH and TESB better than ROTJ. Blinded? I see faults with the orignal as well. But I see the same faults in the new movies. GL has had 20 years to work on it.

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    18. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1
      Sure you can prove it. Watch the behind the scenes materials for AOTC. It's people saying yes to George, and no one challenges him on anything, no matter the poor logic or decisions made.

      I meant that literally *I* couldn't prove it - I don't have any of the DVD's. But I suspected that someone who did - ie, you - easily could. So thanks. ;)

    19. Re:It's obvious what he's going to do by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 1
      I think they are a hugely wasted opportunity and I have no confidence that EP3 is going to be any good.

      Certain things are ridiculous and incompatible between EP1-3 and EP4-6. I won't write them here, but I'm sure you already know them.

  73. Doesn't seem right to me... by CoderB · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "I've earned the right to fail, which means making what I think are really great movies that no one wants to see."

    Does this bother anyone else? If _no one_ wants to watch the movie, how can it be said to be great? Who cares if he thinks it's great?

    I've seen people with really bad ideas who insist that they're great. It doesn't make them right.

    1. Re:Doesn't seem right to me... by Kwil · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you've heard of something called hyperbole.. which isn't a math construction.

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  74. The Details by Baldrson · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It's all the details.

    Well then this seems to be a good starting point.

    I don't expect you to answer this here but the question becomes, "What are the common characteristics of these 'details' that suck up the most time and energy?"

    Computers are good at being indefatigable -- so where can they help with detail work? It seems they could help a lot if you could better characterize it.

    1. Re:The Details by ediron2 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The details? I am SO not an expert, but from what I've gleaned from friends that are:

      The *details* are the zillion budget items for a movie: sets, lighting, sound, special effects, costumes, makeup, etc etc etc. They're manpower-intensive, use specialized gear, and perfection in these crafts only comes with experience. Otherwise, the audience will notice.

      Every one of the 200 names that go zinging past at a movie's end represents a category of details important enough that the show hired a specialist. Small, indy films cut corners on these, but that just means people try to do several jobs at once, and at some point the audience will start to notice.

      So, if you wanna do things right, you hire some help. Once you grow beyond a team of a few people, start planning a la Brooks' mythical man-month, where each sixth person needs a manager. That gets fun, because the boss role is split between some guy too distracted to care about half of the details (the director) and people hired to handle these details as transparently as possible. Add in accountants and schedulers and people to round up the crafts needed or get bids for the work being done, etc. Even on a good day, it really starts to look like a wierdass engineering project by the time you're done. Once costs stretch the budget (and they will, whether you're doing Titanic or a documentary) throw in someone obsessed with budget (producer). If you're sadistic, imagine the worst-case of the conflict between director and producer.

      Then, do everything on insane interdependent timelines: sets can take weeks to assemble, and hours to touch up before filming. Makeup often starts at 4am, there's a continual flow of 'plan shot, make adjustments to fit plan, shoot, repeat', so that actors are sometimes only onstage for a few hours total spaced over as much as a 16-hour day, and in addition to the crafts, security, catering, medics, etc. are all needed to help all these people throughout that long day. Add external factors (weather, lost gear, changes in story, disappearing cast members).

      The end result is fairly inefficient, with dozens of people waiting for their next task, but billing for the whole day. Spending rates soar, but each person you remove causes tiny gaps and mistakes or slows things down immensely. A director pausing to review a shot also means everyone else is pausing to wait for him. But not pausing could mean rebuilding the set, flying actors back in, etc. when a shot is deemed unworkable...

      I don't see gadgets *solving* a lot of this. And as they do, new complications are introduced. For example, DV allows better immediate-review capability than film. That saves $$$loads$$$ on film, but increases the chance for delays. Sound gear gets better, but audience expectations increase. Special effects are a never-ending race with audience expectations, too.

  75. Imaginative Work by Lucky+Kevin · · Score: 2, Informative

    He needs to do more things like the incredible Star Wars: Revelations

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    Kevin
    "It's not the cough that carries you off, it's the coffin they carry you off in" O. Nash
  76. Why is his universe called "fictional"? by mi · · Score: 1, Insightful

    His galaxy is "far away", but the universe may well be ours -- the one and only...

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    In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
  77. Behind the scences: Lucas and TV execs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lucas: I wanted to try something new. How about a sitcom with a bunch of 20-something's with crap jobs living in incredibly expensive apartments in New York? We could call it "Pals."

    TV execs: Gee, George. We were thinking something more... Star Wars.

    Lucas: How about a sitcom with a bunch of 20-something's with crap jobs living in incredibly expensive apartments on Tatooine? We could call it "Star Wars Pals."

  78. Guybrush Threepwood! by sleighb0y · · Score: 1

    Live action Monkey Island or how about Maniac Mansion? Dig deep into the Lucas archive.

  79. Re:Reinvent this... by henrygondorff · · Score: 1

    I belive his Karma must be low enough already... LOL!

  80. Just keep making Starwars by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Theres enough fanbase on Starwars to make as many sequels as you possibly can before you die. It doesn't matter that its the same Universe, theres enough aliens, weaponry, unseen jedi abilities, and intrigue to milk it til you die. Its like telling Gene Roddenberry to reinvent himself. If he was alive, most trekkies would want him to be churning out more Star Trek.

    1. Re:Just keep making Starwars by SmokeHalo · · Score: 1

      I understand your point about giving the people what they want, but sometimes it's difficult to determine what it is the people want.

      Sure, the Star Wars milieu is rich in variety of many sorts. But does that mean Lucas must "milk it till he dies"? There will come a point when the law of diminishing returns catches up to Star Wars and it will not be as entertaining or enlightening as it once was. People get burned out. Some would say we've reached that point already, but I digress.

      I'll use Trek as an example. I'm a long-time Star Trek fan, but each successive series made me lose interest in the thing as a hole (although I still enjoy TOS and some TNG). If Roddenberry were alive, do you think he'd want to churn out more? That verb phrase itself, "churn out", is indicative of pulp fiction or run-of-the-mill pop music. Roddenberry considered himself an artist and visionary, someone who I imagine would be extremely put off at being asked to "churn out" some more Trek stuff, as if the point were merely to con viewers out of their loot.

      I imagine Lucas feels the same way. He wants to create art for art's sake that may not be as pleasing to the masses, but he is banking on the fact that there is a core of Lucas aficionados that will enjoy things like rich plots and deep character development, things that make a story great.

      And if that craps out, he can always fall back on mind-bending special effects. :)

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  81. Indiana Jones and the Hospital of Doom! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's either that, or the Resthome of Doom, starring a geriatric Harrison Ford, leather whip in hand, cane in the other...

    1. Re:Indiana Jones and the Hospital of Doom! by snuf23 · · Score: 1

      As Bubba Ho-Tep has shown, the rest home can be an excellent setting for a pulp adventure story.

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  82. He had 3 chances.... by gosand · · Score: 1
    Everyone's so quick to bash Lucas, but seriously, have you people been paying any attention to his media campaign lately? He's really coming off like he's sorry for ep 1 & 2, and the whole special edition thing... I mean, ep is gonna be PG-13?!? He's said it'll be "Star Wars goes to Hell," for chissakes. That doesn't sound like the words of a man milking some cash-cow for all its worth... If it were, he'd be coming with more furry little ewaks.

    Have YOU been paying attention. By my count, there were 2 good Star Wars movies, and 3 bad ones (so far). Return of the Jedi was Lucas turning to the dark side, if you will. However, he was excused for it because the first two movies were great. It was the "2 out of 3 ain't bad" argument. But since that time, he has produced 2 more insufferable movies. ROTJ fits more in the category of EPI and II than IV and V. So even if EPIII is great, he will be at 50%, which in my book is a failing grade.

    He has said that EPI and II were his visions, and created the way he wanted to do the originals. That just proves that he has no talent. The first two movies are widely agreed to be the best - yet they aren't what Lucas wanted. He is a hack, who got lucky with the first two movies, and perhaps BECAUSE they weren't up to his "standards" is why they were good. He cannot redeem himself. Even if EPIII is good, in the grand scheme of things Lucas has shown his true colors.

    Unlike Darth Vader, he can't turn over a new leaf in the final movie in an attempt to erase the dark side from his past.

    --

    My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.

    1. Re:He had 3 chances.... by Ucklak · · Score: 1

      EP IV : The best movie out of the lot.

      EP V : The best story out of the lot but boring. Cool ground battle and a saber duel.

      EP VI : Why do most people hate the Ewoks? Even if you didn't care for them, you'll get over that when you have kids. This movie also had everything as far as action. Ground battle, speeder bikes, space battle, saber duels, the emperor. What was missing was hacking. All we got was Vader's hand loped off.

      EP I : Boring except for the pod racing and the saber duel. Pod rading being the best sequence in the series.

      EP II : Boring and annoying. There is no character in the movie that we want to be with except maybe Obi Wan but he's not enough to carry a movie. What could have made this movie better is a love triangle that is pretty much a staple in all operas and tragic stories.

      Have Padme being courted by some political type and Anakin is jealous because of his infatuation. Anakin is forced to be a bodyguard but kills the 'competition' during a battle. Or something along that line.

      I didn't buy the 'love' story. I don't understand the gound battle and couldn't follow what was happening becuase it was just droids vs clones, sissy Jedi falling and getting killed, and no goal in sight. At least EP V you knew that the AT-AT's were heading for the power generator.

      --
      if you steal from one source, that is plagiarism, if you steal from many, well, that's just research.
  83. Unfortunately by screwballicus · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately, Lucasarts is just more proof of how berift of creativity or interest in anything but technological progress the franchise is as a whole at present.

    Yes, Sam and Max was good.

    But linking to that list will only remind us that Lucasarts cancelled the latest Sam and Max game to make a Christmas release and grab holiday sales.

    They've lately garnered no small amount of fan hatred, furthermore, for rushing KotOR 2 out the door before the product was complete, and ahead of the originally planned release date. Lucasarts, as a publisher, is at this point renowned for little other than their ridiculous 12-month conveyor belt dev schedules. When your intention as a publisher is to make as much money as possible developing generic crap, who needs a dev schedule with room for creativity?

    Lucasarts is just more evidence of how dead of all things beyond eye-candy and the franchise name all things "Lucas" have become.

    1. Re:Unfortunately by Golias · · Score: 1

      "Outlaws" was the best single-player FPS game I ever played. Once I loaded the 3DFX patch, I felt just like I was in an old western for hours at a time. Great storytelling with well-integrated action.

      Jedi Knight's solo levels were almost as good.

      The KotOR series was licensed by LucasArts, but Lucas himself and the usual LucasArts suspects never touched either one of them. They deserve zero credit for what you liked about the first one, and zero blame for what you hated about the second.

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      Information wants to be anthropomorphized.

    2. Re:Unfortunately by screwballicus · · Score: 1

      They deserve zero credit for what you liked about the first one, and zero blame for what you hated about the second

      Not at all the case. Lucasarts pushed an accelerated Christmas release date on Obsidian for KotOR II, pulling a switcheroo by, late into development, pushing up the release to pick up holiday sales, thus fucking up the final product, which was never properly finished subject to this circumstance. From everything we know about how and why KotOR came to be thrown out the door ahead of time, along with what's been gathered regarding cancelled portions of the game (including the ending, which was never completed), they deserve 100% of the credit for what was problematic about KotOR II: namely, its unfinished state as of the early release.

  84. Re:Step Four/Join up with Kevin Smith by mykepredko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What does that leave? Producing. You give the cash and some ideas, let others do the work.

    Actually, you've missed what he's really good at and what the article hints at - editing the film into something that is very watchable.

    Lucas has an amazing ability as a visual and audible story teller. He has the ability to place the viewer in the middle of the scene and make them feel as if they are a part of it. It is important to note that he worries about the sound just as much as the picture and they do merge seamlessly together.

    He's the anti-Kevin Smith. Lucas has saddled himself with a story that everybody knows how it is going to play itself out, but he has managed to create some visually entertaining pieces of film along the way. Smith is the opposite, when he's at the top of his game you don't know what to expect at the end, but you know you'll be entertained by the dialog and bored by static cameras four to six feet from the talent.

    The idea of Lucas being the anti-Kevin Smith got me to wondering what you would get if they were to collaborate. Smith would provide the story, dialog and characters while Lucas would make the movie visually and aurally interesting.

    Hmmm... Kevin, if you're reading this, have your people talk to my people and we'll talk.

    myke

  85. Re:Similarly, ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But I will...

    ziiiip....

    sproing!!!!

  86. Original trilogy 3D by AgentGray · · Score: 1

    I think I remember reading in my Wired print rag yesterday that Eps 4-6 will be re-released in 3D as well in the near future.

    Possibly even using that new 3D digital tech that him, Cameron, Rodroguiz, and others are harping about.

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    "Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely."
  87. Build-or-buy decision by grantsucceeded · · Score: 2, Funny

    With those kind of bucks, why invent yourself: just buy yourself.

  88. Ford? Eh, just replace him with Ben Affleck... by efuseekay · · Score: 1


    oh wait.

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  89. Four words: by Rhys · · Score: 1

    Darth Vader Sex Machine

    Inspired in large part by the lame and yet often pretty funny game "Star Warped" by Parroty Interactive (I think).

    The only thing that'd make a lot of those games better would be JEJ doing the voice of Vader. "Use the pole, Luke!" (from Wack The Ewok)

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  90. Speaking of stomaching flicks of skin. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You must have forgotten or missed the papparazi pictures of her picking her butt and eating it. Hmm, mmm, good! Steamy (and stanky) hot grits!

  91. Historic moment by solomonrex · · Score: 1

    When Lucas realized he can earn income by endlessly remixing his previous works. Really, once Harrison Ford is digitized, it's over. He's remaking EVERYTHING.

    I don't even blame him. Are the Beatles any different? Did Jordan win in Washington? Royalties change people.

  92. Heinlein movies by 3nd32 · · Score: 1

    Quote from Roger Ebert, page 5 of the article: "Lucas is obviously great at science fiction, and he could combine his indie origins with his natural inclinations in smaller-scale sci-fi films," he says. "There's a lot of mind-bending speculative fiction by Robert Heinlein and Isaac Asimov that has never been filmed. A movie like Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is science fiction, though it was never described that way." NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

  93. He or his kissasses already have. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you check out Lucas Arts games? The remastering part is redoing his fatness into a facsimile of chisled and heroic. Not only does Jedi knights have him on the box covers, but you don't play just any jedi knight character, but George as the jedi knight.

  94. Reinvent now? by tuxlove · · Score: 2, Funny

    Lucas now struggles with how to reinvent himself.

    He's struggling now? He should have started that struggle a long time ago, like before making Phantom Menace.

  95. Aren't there 9 Star Wars episodes by wheelbarrow · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I thought the saga had 9 chapters. We saw 4,5,6,1,2 and soon we'll see 3. What about 7, 8, and 9?

    1. Re:Aren't there 9 Star Wars episodes by argent · · Score: 1

      With luck George will realise that he doesn't have to lift another finger working for the rest of his life, and someone else will do them.

    2. Re:Aren't there 9 Star Wars episodes by NerveGas · · Score: 1


      Why, are you that anxious to see "Meet the Binxes?"

      steve

      --
      Oh, you're not stuck, you're just unable to let go of the onion rings.
    3. Re:Aren't there 9 Star Wars episodes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Originally there was supposed to be. In fact, a Bloom County Comic strip lampooned this back in the '80s.

      Basically, George Lucas is explaining to a young Skywalker, (played Milo Bloom, I think) that he'll have to wait a long time for the saga to end. Lucas explains that it isn't just a sequel, it's sequels, in fact there are 9 in all and he won't finish until sometime in the late 1990s.

      Milo then de-capitates Lucas with his light-saber and says, "REAL Jedi knights don't wait for sequels !!!"

  96. Lucas only produced the Indiana Jones films by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  97. He once knew how to make SciFi worth watching by smchris · · Score: 1

    But I understand the studios dumped on (and just dumped) THX 1138. That taught him REALLY, REALLY good. Worst example of a hard-knocks lesson since, according to Reader's Digest, a black girl knocked little Karl Rove off his bicycle because he had a Nixon sticker on it.

    But just _maybe_ if George could dig really, really deep he still has something saved up down there worth directing since he has been so engrossed in blockbusters the last decades. If he doesn't have the clout now to pull off something cool in sci fi that would still make money, who does? But in a funny way I don't think the guy believes in himself or the public.

  98. maybe by maxpublic · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Maybe he should reinvent himself as 'retired'.

    Max

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  99. Grand Admiral Thrawn and the New Republic? by CodeBuster · · Score: 1

    It remains to be seen whether he (Lucas) will attempt to channel the wealth of printed, electronic, and other materials concerning the events following the Battle of Endor into a further series of films. The core Stars Wars market will still be around for the foreseeable future to support any further productions and there are new generations coming along that will expect fresh materials. The studios certainly wouldn't mind financing these projects because there is obviously a great deal of equity remaining in the franchise to be exploited. I doubt that episode III will be the last feature length foray into the Star Wars universe.

  100. Don't be taken in! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's only reinventing himself so he can sell a super-deluxe box set to all the fans that already have a George Lucas!

  101. cluestick for lucas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how about re-inveting yourself by creating Non-shitty star wars movies?

  102. Steven Spielberg by Winterblink · · Score: 0

    Lucas could do what Spielberg did -- throw out all the cute happy junk and start getting into darker "noir" filmmaking. I couldn't believe Minority Report was done by the same guy who did E.T. Lucas should start shooting for the more adult ratings for his future movies.

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    -Hoban Washburn
    1. Re:Steven Spielberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or not... Spielberg never really did anything, anyway. He's always been all over the place, and, in doing so, he's always overtold the story. Popcorn fodder, indeed.

  103. He'll be busy with the next 3 Star Wars Films... by BigAlexK · · Score: 1

    He's got the next 3 episodes to make, right?

    I mean actors have been signed up etc.

    Rumours are flying around....

    Lets wait and see.

  104. What about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about eposides 7, 8, and 9?

  105. reinvention idea by ChristTrekker · · Score: 1

    How about he reinvents himself as a director who can make good sequels? He still has episodes 7-9 to go....

  106. Simpsons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about another guest shot on the Simpsons?

  107. Fun Freedom, George by Vagary · · Score: 1

    All of those tools have room for improvements in usability and increases in Freedom.

    For example, the other day I pirated a version of Flash because I figured it might be a good way to start a 12 year old programming. First, why did I have to pirate it or pay for it (and why didn't it run on Linux)? George should fund Free tools. Second, it was totally unusable and we gave up pretty quickly. George should fund better tools. Third, what would the kid have done with stuff he made? George should fund distribution and awards.

    1. Re:Fun Freedom, George by ediron2 · · Score: 1

      And I tried to walk to Cancun but got tired. George should fund my vacations.

      My whole point is that one needs to have a desire to learn and get the experience. If $100 is out of reach, when I had to save $50 for a mitt as a kid, $1600 for an Amiga while in college, etc. then the desire isn't there. Gifts from George won't make a difference.

      And how can you say the flash platform is unusable? I've seen 8-year-olds figure out animation basics on it.

  108. Re: 7,8,9 should be Timothy Zahn books. by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

    If he was going to do the 7,8,9 he should really do the Timothy Zahn books. I missed work over those books they were so good! Furthermore, they are canon, and they take place about 5-10 years after the end of Starwars 6. That leaves his own material for 10,11,12.

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    She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
  109. Michael Moore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Personally, I'm waiting for the George Lucas and Michael Moore movie!

  110. Star Wars Celebration 3 by jgribble · · Score: 1

    I was lucky enough to make it to Star Wars Celebration 3 where Lucas confirmed that there will be a 1/2 hour Cartoon, and a live action series starting in a year for production. Lucas will be doing Star Wars for a long time. And he has the next Indy film to do. Photos from C3 http://starwars.movlug.com

  111. Re:Step Four/Join up with Kevin Smith by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kevin Smith is a fucking idiot.

    Chasing Amy is possibly the worst film I've ever seen, I've never wanted to kill an entire cast quite so much.

    Mallrats is retarded and grossly misjudged.

    Clerks is decent enough, but very much a document of its time and place - it looks severely dated already, for crying out loud. Moreso than, say, Chinatown - which was made thirty years ago. Yes, I know, Chinatown is set in the 1930s and they're totally different films. I just watched it again last night, that's all.

    Clerks is the equivilent of something like Beyond The Valley Of The Dolls - hilariously dated trash. It's quite funny dated trash, as long as you get rid of the awful scenes with Jay and Silent Bob. Why he hung onto the worst characters he's ever created for so long is completely beyond me, especially Jay - he was an irritation even in Clerks. The best scene Smith has ever done in any movie was the bit with the phone call to the video distributor in Clerks. That was quite good.

    Everything since has been painful, however.

    Please, just take the man out and shoot him before he debases himself further.

    Actually, that's quite a good idea getting Lucas and Kevin Smith in the same place. Then we can shoot both of them without having to waste effort on tracking them down individually.

  112. yes, Dave Grohl by SethJohnson · · Score: 1



    Dave Grohl is more than Foo Fighters. Dave Grohl was Scream. He was Nirvana. He is Queens of the Stone Age. He is Probot.

    After all this material, he's still coming up with fresh ideas. I don't know of anyone else working in contemporary music who can claim this. Maybe Dr. Dre, I suppose. And a few other producers like him.

  113. is it just me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or does anybody else think that Star Wars was a load of overated crap? Maybe Mr Lucas is starting to realise his sum total of artistic merit is zero too. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066434/ Probably the best thing he ever did and that was in 1971

  114. Re:Reinvent this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  115. Re: 7,8,9 should be Timothy Zahn books. by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Put down the crack pipe. Zahn's books are fucking horrible.

  116. He'd possibly make cash if... by Khyber · · Score: 0

    He made movies out of Full Throttle and The Dig. Especially with The Dig, which was a great game with awesome imagination and inspiration in it. I would, for once, actually go to a movie theatre, instead of pirating, to see The Dig produced for the silver screen.

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    Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
  117. Oh big deal by maynard · · Score: 1

    Feh. So he blew off the DGA because he didn't want front credits. His work is hackery. Call him a "maverick" if you like because of this, but his work certainly isn't anything special. JMO! --M

  118. Re-Inventing yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ""I like Star Wars, but I certainly never expected it would take over my life," Lucas says in a conversation at Skywalker Ranch. He estimates that he gave two decades of solid work to Star Wars, not including a hiatus to raise three adopted kids as a single father."

    Uhhmmm. Then stop calling it the Skywalker Ranch. Just a tip.

  119. he's old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    maybe he could just retire and die.

  120. Re:Step Four/Join up with Kevin Smith by drsquare · · Score: 1

    The idea of Lucas being the anti-Kevin Smith got me to wondering what you would get if they were to collaborate. Smith would provide the story, dialog and characters while Lucas would make the movie visually and aurally interesting.

    You mean, like Tarantino?

  121. THX-1138 was Lucas's masterpiece by metamatic · · Score: 1

    Personally I didn't see anything special about "American Graffiti". It was just commercial pap.

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  122. Jar Jar a Jedi in Ep 3 is a good idea! by Hungry+Admin · · Score: 1

    If Jar Jar becomes even a Jedi trainee in Episdoe 3, then we will get to see Darth Vader hunt him down and KILL him!

    YESsss!

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  123. Re: 7,8,9 should be Timothy Zahn books. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only the movies are canon. Get out of the fanboy mode.

    IF he made 7,8, and 9, I would completely wager that he will ignore/rip off the Zahn novel than follow them. He's going to do it his way whether he succeeds or fails.

  124. The Last Star Wars Movie? by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    I was under the impression that the star wars saga was a 9 movie sequenced in the order of 3,4,5,1,2,3,7,8,9. I guess the last three became victums of the editing room.

  125. not surprising.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a SW Fan who has also been disappointed in some of his past efforts (I was even a bit disappointed with ROTJ), I can honestly say you guys (and gals) are simply victims of your own expectations. I mean really... let's examine the facts...

    1. Star Wars AHH - blew us all away because we HAD no expectations.
    1b. Star Wars Christmas Special - Proof that not everything SW is even watchable. :)
    2. TESB - impressed us with it's grittier nature and (let's face it) a budget 4X higher than it's predecessor.
    3. ROTJ - Disappointed a bit but ended happily reminding us of ANH.
    4. Episode 1 - Dazzling SFX... not so great on the characters.
    5. Episode 2 - Characters better - Anakin's dialogue and delivery makes us squirm.
    6. Episode 3 - Expectation of failure. But it will probably be better than the cynical think (I hope).
    7. TV Shows - It's TV! Don't have expectations and just watch the damn thing first!

    Jim

  126. Accessibility Comes Before Desire by Vagary · · Score: 1

    You're right, the kid doesn't have a lot of desire, but there's no way anyone will buy software that there's a good chance will just sit on the shelf.

    I got paid to develop in Flash 4 and I found MX 2004 painful to use. Obsessive kids may be able to figure it out, but I could hardly encourage him to use it when I wasn't capable of answering any of his questions.

  127. New stuff by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1

    Well, at least the MASK would be new.
    Er... I'm going to hazard that the lava would be new also.

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