Good discussion. I too thought the Straw Man was more like the Hasty Generalization, thanks for the info. Anyway, I have telecommuted for a couple of different jobs, and while my evidence is anecdotal, I think it is still somewhat applicable to other situations.
Basically, it comes down to this: how is your success measured in your job, and how good are you at it? If it is easily quantifiable (contract work such as art, code, piece work, sales) you don't have to be in the office every day, as your boss knows exactly where you stand at any point. If you have a job that is fuzzier, even if there are deliverables involved (such as a game design, marketing, etc.) more consensus is generally needed, and for that, you need to lobby people to your position. Usually, when you are asking something of someone, it is better to be face to face. Also, if you are a rock star at your job, you may not need much instruction or help from your co-workers, but if you aren't, those 2 second conversations on how to do something are much more difficult to arrange. e.g. "How do I login to the Db?"
However, both of you are also overlooking one MAJOR issue with face time, not everyone's value goes up with more face time. Odd people, ugly people, smelly people, obnoxious people, etc. can have a net negative impact on their career if they are in the office at ALL, let alone anywhere near 40 hours a week. Some people are much better off in a remote office, especially if they get the job done.
Thanks for the discussion, you both had many good points.
So true, B2:EB was a furthering of the premise set up in the first installment. The moves were better the costumes were day-glowier, and it added Electric Boogaloo to the national lexicon. If only there had been a third....but they probably would have ruined it, like Godfather III
Yes, but specific blame does not necessarily go with the term "social engineering." The fact that there are those holes is not the person doing the verification's fault, but rather the social environment that allowed that to happen. You could call the White House with Prez Bush's SS#, etc, but they still would not give you the codes to the nukes (well, hopefully, you never know with that crowd...:(
So true, if people are willing to look at powerpointesque schematics to reperesent in game progress (see go.espn.com, man when are they gonna let that GO....)then they would be willing to look at crappy video instead, but the main point seems to be having to subscribe to the particular phone service/outlet scheme they have. 2 cents.
That is a great point! In what realm does betting on sports require physical detention of the CEO, while gross mismanagement/falsification/illegal pollution does not? (yes, I am looking at you BP!)
I think the expression has evolved to encompass the meaning that, while technically, one could "care less," it is such a small difference that it isn't even worth the effort to imagine such a state. Just a thought.
On another off-topic, why do disgruntled and gruntled mean the same thing? -A
No real answers to any of those (at least according to Schrodinger (sp?)), but we still know what the half life of radioactive elements. So, maybe supercomputers can't predict that Miami will get whacked on july 19, 2022 but maybe it will help to figure out whether we will still be in the active phase of hurricanes 10 years from now. Or where to plant crops if weather patterns shift...
True. One rule of thumb I have heard that seems to make sense sometimes is that "B" grade books can make "A" films (sometimes), but that "A" books are usually too complicated to transfer successfully. The example usually cited is "Who Framed Roger Rabbit." It was a book first. Worth considering.
Japan also has very few energy resources. No oil to speak of, little coal, and people all over the place. Unlike China, which has TONS of coal (to the 10th power). Japan is almost forced into using nuclear, but they still use a lot of oil as well. -A
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Case in point, accidental Minot-Barksdale transfer of warheads by Airmen unwilling to follow protocol.
Tsarist Electro-Volts vs. Capitalist Pig Current
Book due tomorrow. Almost, but not quite, finished.
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No data to back it up, but I think lots of people would love to be able to fly. And not in planes.
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Higgins is Robin Masters (see last show). Robin Masters owns the car; therefore Higgins owns the car. GP is correct, but probably inadvertantly.
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I can't quite put my finger on it, but they seem similar in some strange, half-remembered way....
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No, no, these guys weren't promising a moon trip!
Mike? Are you there Mike?
Good discussion. I too thought the Straw Man was more like the Hasty Generalization, thanks for the info. Anyway, I have telecommuted for a couple of different jobs, and while my evidence is anecdotal, I think it is still somewhat applicable to other situations.
Basically, it comes down to this: how is your success measured in your job, and how good are you at it? If it is easily quantifiable (contract work such as art, code, piece work, sales) you don't have to be in the office every day, as your boss knows exactly where you stand at any point. If you have a job that is fuzzier, even if there are deliverables involved (such as a game design, marketing, etc.) more consensus is generally needed, and for that, you need to lobby people to your position. Usually, when you are asking something of someone, it is better to be face to face. Also, if you are a rock star at your job, you may not need much instruction or help from your co-workers, but if you aren't, those 2 second conversations on how to do something are much more difficult to arrange. e.g. "How do I login to the Db?"
However, both of you are also overlooking one MAJOR issue with face time, not everyone's value goes up with more face time. Odd people, ugly people, smelly people, obnoxious people, etc. can have a net negative impact on their career if they are in the office at ALL, let alone anywhere near 40 hours a week. Some people are much better off in a remote office, especially if they get the job done.
Thanks for the discussion, you both had many good points.
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So true, B2:EB was a furthering of the premise set up in the first installment. The moves were better the costumes were day-glowier, and it added Electric Boogaloo to the national lexicon. If only there had been a third....but they probably would have ruined it, like Godfather III
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Or Road Warrior?
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Yes, but specific blame does not necessarily go with the term "social engineering." The fact that there are those holes is not the person doing the verification's fault, but rather the social environment that allowed that to happen. You could call the White House with Prez Bush's SS#, etc, but they still would not give you the codes to the nukes (well, hopefully, you never know with that crowd...:(
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I think it is Saturday night and the moder4tors are drunk. Discuss.
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The key phrase is "eventually." If it CAN happen, it WILL happen, given enough time.
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So true, if people are willing to look at powerpointesque schematics to reperesent in game progress (see go.espn.com, man when are they gonna let that GO....)then they would be willing to look at crappy video instead, but the main point seems to be having to subscribe to the particular phone service/outlet scheme they have. 2 cents.
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That is a great point! In what realm does betting on sports require physical detention of the CEO, while gross mismanagement/falsification/illegal pollution does not? (yes, I am looking at you BP!)
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Very doubtful.
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I think the expression has evolved to encompass the meaning that, while technically, one could "care less," it is such a small difference that it isn't even worth the effort to imagine such a state. Just a thought.
On another off-topic, why do disgruntled and gruntled mean the same thing?
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Not with the new saws!!
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Why? Seems like if you can find it easily your email can act like those databases?
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As long as you VOTE your conscience when given the chance, you are not all bad, so don't be too hard on yourself.
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three questions
1) What's in the box?
2) If a butterfly beats its wings in...
3) When will a radioactive atom go through decay?
No real answers to any of those (at least according to Schrodinger (sp?)), but we still know what the half life of radioactive elements. So, maybe supercomputers can't predict that Miami will get whacked on july 19, 2022 but maybe it will help to figure out whether we will still be in the active phase of hurricanes 10 years from now. Or where to plant crops if weather patterns shift...
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True. One rule of thumb I have heard that seems to make sense sometimes is that "B" grade books can make "A" films (sometimes), but that "A" books are usually too complicated to transfer successfully. The example usually cited is "Who Framed Roger Rabbit." It was a book first. Worth considering.
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Don't give up your tell.
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Japan also has very few energy resources. No oil to speak of, little coal, and people all over the place. Unlike China, which has TONS of coal (to the 10th power). Japan is almost forced into using nuclear, but they still use a lot of oil as well.
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