>>When I want to transport, ie, Windows 2000 SP3 to my parents' house, along with updated 30MB printer drivers, a Word Perfect Office service pack (@~80MB), along with about 200MB worth of additional drivers and updates, I hauled out a single 650MB CD-RW disk and burned the files in 5 minutes. I didn't have to pack an external ZIP disk, a floppy with drivers, and two-three ZIP disks to do it, either.
Thats funny when i do the same I just need my 750 zip drive and the disk that i carry in it. No drivers, just a nice small rugged drive thats not much bigger than a cd case. (thicker, but less in area). I save whatever to it, go to next computer and plug it in. Easy as can be. And it's fast, involves no software to save to it. Also many computers at my school don't have burners, but everyone has a zip drive.
The thing that should be pointed out is this is how liquid cooling should have been done from the start. The reason their not is because most if not all of the home pc case cooling systems are things slapped together by people without engineering background in such things. Good liquid cooling systems are designed like this. There should be no pump to cool your cpu. The problem is to do it right involves doing some calculations which most don't do so they just use a pump. It's not a very hard thing as you can see by the article.
Now on a side note, if you like the idea of passive cooling loops Shuttle XPC cases now come with them. They use very similar ideas. You have liquid in a tube, when it vaporizes it rises to the upper radiator where it condenses and a fan carries the heat away and the water returns to the cpu side of the loop. Not sure if it vaporizes or just gets hot to move up the tube, really just a matter of effectiveness. It does a good job in lowering cpu fan noise. Unfortenly the noise of the PSU is very high in these things, or at least my SN41g2, though i belive the P4's have same PSU. The need the same thing on the PSU as the cpu. Also the "heat pipe" is a work of art.
There is lots of things in Bond movies like that that can really bug you. Strangly the most far out stuff, like the jet pack, was real, go figure.
That said I was always impressed how they called them the Rockwell Space shuttles. You never hear that mentioned. I belive lockhead bought them out and the company behind it sorta got lost to history.
Though everytime I hear Rockwell Space Shuttle I think of my fathers Rockwell belt sander. Then again Gruman makes me think of Mailtrucks and Canoe's but they built a pretty nice moon lander.
Yeah but it doesn't miss everything. One of them got a cracked window from hitting a flake of paint. Thats the stuff that scares you about going up. The machine we can make better. Things like micro meterites we can't.
on 9/11 3000 people died in the wtc, that same day another 6500 people died in the US from something not realated to the attacks. In the grand scheme of things those 3000 people don't through stats off much. in one day in one country there was a 50% jump, yes thats big, but compair it to the whole year or the world that day it's nothing. What is big is what happened. The loss of life is just an unfortent aspect. 6500 people die in the US everyday. But only a few will make the news. The actualy events around the death are the real news. Space shuttles don't blow up very often. And at this rate there won't be any to blow up before to long.
>>In 86-87 there was a Democratic House and Congress and the Democrats have a history of dragging thier feet on space*.
You got that back fucking asswords! The republicans are the ones that kill all funding to NASA. NASA is what it is becauses of Dems. in the 60's. Republicans don't like NASA, they want the money spent on B2 bombers so they can blow up brown people in new and advanced ways!
What you said is very much the truth. I wish AMD had released new chips last week since i just bought components for new computer this week, (and damn is going from 400 mhz to 1.7 ghz nice.). But you bring up somehting that I have always wondered about. There is all these component makers of things like motherboards. Their is lots of people making them, and they make lots off models. I can't see anymore then but a few ever make it into commerical brand computers like dells or gateways. So that leaves most of these to be bought by people who build their computers. Thats maybe 1% of the market. How do these companies stay alive on that. Same for other componet makers. I can see AMD and Intel doing fine since they will have months with each chip getting sold in dell's gateways....etc. And they will always have the latest and "greatest" chips. I almost wonder if the homebuilder type is more of just a product test bed, see what new things they like, to see what they should market towards Dell and Gateway.
>> A Chevy Nova in a properly restored form, built between the years of 1962 and 1979 are never junky! I think most would only agree with you up to 67, after that they look like ass. Before that their very nice.
Actualy my thermo book in the part on steam turbines has a bit on a power plant, I belive in NH, (don't feel like looking up) that had a steam power plant that used mercury for the loop. Not sure is it was a mix of mercury and water though. Had to be rough on the turbine, and very bad if you sprung a leak. Also a cold day could suck, if you think freezing water pipes sucks, how bout this one.
>>It doesn't have so much as a stock rear view mirror, damn it!
Actualy the trucnk lids are stock, thats the only thing stock. If you ever see them open the trunk on one, (yes they do open) you can see the factory structure.
But yeah I agree, as it is now the cars suck. The problem is there isn't much in way of v8 rwd midsize 2 door cars out there. I'm fine if the body of the car isn't stock, like the shape be stock though, but introduce modern engines and such into it for gods sake. Unfortenly eventualy all the bodys for nascar will be 1 shape, everyone has identical bodies and just puts a manufacture sticker on it. And they don't want electronics to be brought in. They want it to be equal cars and a battle of drivers skill. Unfortently most of us want to see real cars out there and see one company or team come up with stuff to beat the others. And while there at it smash the heck otu of their pretty cars. They good days are gone.
I love it, wish i had lots of money for it though. I've been waiting for a laptop with a big screen, now there is one. I can't stand small laptops. That was my beef with the ibooks, they are so freaking small, and white. Big screen does not make it any less portable, just makes it more usable.
The one thing that bugs me more than anything is when they don't have a book on what I'm looking for. It makes me sad and loose intrest in it. I want them to have a Fortran book. Someone who knows fortran write them a book. There is lots up new Engineers and Scientist out there who would like to learn fortran since it's important in their feild. There is so many things written in fortran. Though I think any fortran book would need to cover all versions of fortran. I just find it amazing they don't have one. My C and C++ O'reilly books need a shelf mate.
Also a Cobol book would be fun, found myself wanting to learn it for the hell of it, and a dinosour would be a must on the cover (maybe Bob the Dinosour, or Wally,(one looks like a COBOL programmer and the other is)). Same for Fortran I suppose.
That may be a store to store thing. The one barnes and noble by me has them all together now, they didn't before. Though the University owned one does not. They scamble them everywhere. But at least the Uni owned one has more titles. But yeah, when the arn't in one spot it's a pain. I'm one to just go for the O'reilly book on the topic i'm interested in and buy it without looking at others. I can read the book in the time saved.
yeah, it was on fox when fox was first starting and all they had was movies and other peoples shows. Then they started making there own and axing all that was good aside from the simpsons.
Actualy, I remember on PBS the used to randomly have a show where they would get a group of college engineering students, give them a box of parts, and set up a simple competition for them. They had a period of time with the box of parts to make a small machine for the task, ( i think like a few days) then they had a competition. It was a really good show. But it never seamed to be a real show, just some random few minute thing they threw on tv every now and then. I really liked it.
Thank you, I was struggling to remember the name of that show. I remember when it first came on the air in the US in the late 80's maybe 85. I was a little kid and it was a reason i became a mechanical engineer. I so wish i could see all the episodes of it. I liked them always giving dates for all the stuff for when it would come out. I always try to remember things they showed to see if they were right. I know i used to sit there and think about what i would be doing when it came out. Sitting there picture 1993 so far into the future. Unfortenly I don't think it stayed on the air very long. Though i think it might have been on cable. But i didn't get cable till 1999. Does anyone know if the episodes are avalible anyplace. I would love the shows from the 80's and early 90's on dvd. Watching/reading former visions of the future that wern't far fetched is fun. Even seening things like ads for things from the 80's and such is fun. Also strangly enough the main thing i can remember from the show is the intro. Also remember when the host wore those shoes with the plate on the front of the sole that was suppose to strengthen your legs, later George Castansa did the same, so I know they had one thing correct. Weird the random things you remember from like 1988.
I don't think your examples work for the segway. You examples work for most products though. Just that when you make a jump to something like this is doesn't work. A seqway is very expensive, and doesn't bring very much to the world that the few hundred dollor e-scooters you can buy anywheres allreayd have. Also it's not a problem of cost or new technology and such. It is simple an item with very limited use. And its not something that will continuly find new uses. Things like safty are issues. But just it's use is a problem. It cannot be used in a lot of situations. It really only works in cities, and warm climate ones. Needs cities that have a place for it to run. Many cities arn't going to alow them on sidewalks since they cause more of a safty issue than bikes or roller bladers that are allready banned. Things like a palm pilot may have been over kill for their uses but work universialy and have few limitations, and will continue to find new uses.
I can see segways in uses like mail men chariots, and use in warehouses. But it's not something that the mass public has a use for or can even dream up a use for. If there was the previous electric scooters would have had big impacts allready. Even if a segway in time becomes a $200 dollar item, few people will buy one since they have no use for it, or can't use it do to where they live. Also walking will always remain popular mode of transportation, this thing will not help reduce the gross national product of fat in the US. Things like palm pilots relived people of trying to remember to much stuff. DVD's replaced a poor techology.
You somewhat prove my point. You think your car is superior. The problem is your not comparing on an equal basis. Of course your car is faster and more fun to drive. It is far more powerful. Also safty can be higher to. I don't know what model BMW you are comparing to what model VW. A 5 series BMW is going to be safer than a Golf not do to build quality but by the fact it's much bigger and has a few x more times steel in it. My point was compairing cars of the same class. The actual build quality of your BMW and VW's is very equal. If you were to get very nity grity on which is better on quality both companies would be very high. VW makes very well built cars.
Ok stop with car anologies. A mercedes is no better than a ford. And if you factor in cost the Ford blows it away on quality. All cars are about equal. It's the mind sets like your that apple goes after. They get you to pay more cause you think its better. And people once they have paid so much for something will never say anything that would mean they paid to much. It's an elitist thing. No one wants to think they are a fool on how they spent their money. It's easier to tell yourself you didn't waste it. This is a very common thing. Companies like Mercedes and lexus use it all the time. I call it the Honda syndrome because they are the perfect example.
In the late 70's and early 80's american cars did suck. Many car companies around the world sucked. One company only after have built their first car not much more than a decade before brought forth a car that was slightly better than the current cars and had definite fuel economy gains. It was a Honda. It was a car unlike most others at the time cause it was small. People bought it because it was what they were looking for at the time and had better quality. Though the Honda was a roller skate death trap and disovled in the rain. It got good milage and was good car when you first bought it. There was a trade off though. It wasn't american which was a bigger deal at the time. And it was expensive. But throughout the 80's Honda could charge people way more than an american car because it was slightly better quality. Also during this time they managed to in-grain to their costomers that american cars are forever crap and inferior. The truth was american car companies were in just a dark time. By the late 80's things improved and begain to return to there pre-70's hi-quality. Honda still convinced owners that their Honda's were so much better. By the mid 90's Hondas had become bigger and more american like and American cars quality was better than ever. The main differance was a Honda of equal specs cost $ 10K more than an american car. Honda still had people on the idea that american cars sucked so it was worth it. They had people on the idea that a Honda was better quality simply on the idea of it's a Honda. People were paying money for Honda's and it didn't matter how much you pointed out that an american car was equal to better than there honda they would not belive you. Honda had been imbedded into their minds so much they could not see past the Honda BS. Now things have began to shift. In the last few years, the price of a honda has sharply fallen. People have relized that they can get a car thats better than a Honda for less and they are not willing to pay huge amounts for a honda. People relized that a Civic is not worth 20 some thousand dollars by a long shot. They relized it's a small basic dull car. Much like the american companies had built for years. The american cars were just as good. But cost less and if something did break was far cheaper to fix. American car makers loose money on their small cars and make money on their big cars. Honda can't do this because they don't make big cars and try to make money on ever one they make. American makers make small cars to act as a place holder. They can't afford to not make them or they will loose market share. Also, they know that people who buy their small cars will in time buy their big cars, with this the automaker re-coops their losses. Even higher end cars are sold at a loss. The Chevy Camaro was killed because they lost 2 thousand dollars on everyone they made. Things like this brought the new shift towards american cars. Plus they were buying american which boosted pride.
Even still though there are people who will never be able to let go of the notion that a Honda is some super car. Point out flaws of a honda and they go nuts. Honda knows they will always have these people. They will always buy a honda just because it's a honda even if it sucks. Just like apple knows they will always have a group of people that will always buy a mac no matter how slow, over priced, and poorly styled they are. And those that by them will never admit they paid to much or it was a bad buy. They will in many cases never admit this because it's a sub consious thing. In their mind they trully think they got the better computer/value. Companies like Honda and Apple managed to hit a gold mine in warping minds. Yes they at times will have products that are good and a good value. Things like this is why two people can watch a honda commerical and one laughs at honda over their price or what they are saying, while the other is all about it and agrees with the add. Same with Apple switch commericals. One person would watch them and think they are great and think they are so correct and apple is god and people will switch, the other person (also the majority of people) can watch them and see it as huge BS and never want to buy an apple after watch a commercial that is down right insulting and makes mac users look like total idiots that can't use a computer. But one will never see the others side and thus will result in endless battles in online computer forums.
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>>When I want to transport, ie, Windows 2000 SP3 to my parents' house, along with updated 30MB printer drivers, a Word Perfect Office service pack (@~80MB), along with about 200MB worth of additional drivers and updates, I hauled out a single 650MB CD-RW disk and burned the files in 5 minutes. I didn't have to pack an external ZIP disk, a floppy with drivers, and two-three ZIP disks to do it, either.
Thats funny when i do the same I just need my 750 zip drive and the disk that i carry in it. No drivers, just a nice small rugged drive thats not much bigger than a cd case. (thicker, but less in area). I save whatever to it, go to next computer and plug it in. Easy as can be. And it's fast, involves no software to save to it. Also many computers at my school don't have burners, but everyone has a zip drive.
well many computer heat issues could be helped if both sides of the mobo was used.
The thing that should be pointed out is this is how liquid cooling should have been done from the start. The reason their not is because most if not all of the home pc case cooling systems are things slapped together by people without engineering background in such things. Good liquid cooling systems are designed like this. There should be no pump to cool your cpu. The problem is to do it right involves doing some calculations which most don't do so they just use a pump. It's not a very hard thing as you can see by the article.
Now on a side note, if you like the idea of passive cooling loops Shuttle XPC cases now come with them. They use very similar ideas. You have liquid in a tube, when it vaporizes it rises to the upper radiator where it condenses and a fan carries the heat away and the water returns to the cpu side of the loop. Not sure if it vaporizes or just gets hot to move up the tube, really just a matter of effectiveness. It does a good job in lowering cpu fan noise. Unfortenly the noise of the PSU is very high in these things, or at least my SN41g2, though i belive the P4's have same PSU. The need the same thing on the PSU as the cpu. Also the "heat pipe" is a work of art.
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There is lots of things in Bond movies like that that can really bug you. Strangly the most far out stuff, like the jet pack, was real, go figure.
That said I was always impressed how they called them the Rockwell Space shuttles. You never hear that mentioned. I belive lockhead bought them out and the company behind it sorta got lost to history.
Though everytime I hear Rockwell Space Shuttle I think of my fathers Rockwell belt sander. Then again Gruman makes me think of Mailtrucks and Canoe's but they built a pretty nice moon lander.
Yeah but it doesn't miss everything. One of them got a cracked window from hitting a flake of paint. Thats the stuff that scares you about going up. The machine we can make better. Things like micro meterites we can't.
very similar to what your say
on 9/11 3000 people died in the wtc, that same day another 6500 people died in the US from something not realated to the attacks. In the grand scheme of things those 3000 people don't through stats off much. in one day in one country there was a 50% jump, yes thats big, but compair it to the whole year or the world that day it's nothing. What is big is what happened. The loss of life is just an unfortent aspect. 6500 people die in the US everyday. But only a few will make the news. The actualy events around the death are the real news. Space shuttles don't blow up very often. And at this rate there won't be any to blow up before to long.
>>In 86-87 there was a Democratic House and Congress and the Democrats have a history of dragging thier feet on space*.
You got that back fucking asswords! The republicans are the ones that kill all funding to NASA. NASA is what it is becauses of Dems. in the 60's. Republicans don't like NASA, they want the money spent on B2 bombers so they can blow up brown people in new and advanced ways!
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What you said is very much the truth. I wish AMD had released new chips last week since i just bought components for new computer this week, (and damn is going from 400 mhz to 1.7 ghz nice.). But you bring up somehting that I have always wondered about. There is all these component makers of things like motherboards. Their is lots of people making them, and they make lots off models. I can't see anymore then but a few ever make it into commerical brand computers like dells or gateways. So that leaves most of these to be bought by people who build their computers. Thats maybe 1% of the market. How do these companies stay alive on that. Same for other componet makers. I can see AMD and Intel doing fine since they will have months with each chip getting sold in dell's gateways....etc. And they will always have the latest and "greatest" chips. I almost wonder if the homebuilder type is more of just a product test bed, see what new things they like, to see what they should market towards Dell and Gateway.
>> A Chevy Nova in a properly restored form, built between the years of 1962 and 1979 are never junky! I think most would only agree with you up to 67, after that they look like ass. Before that their very nice.
Try again, They to are owned by Ford.
Actualy my thermo book in the part on steam turbines has a bit on a power plant, I belive in NH, (don't feel like looking up) that had a steam power plant that used mercury for the loop. Not sure is it was a mix of mercury and water though. Had to be rough on the turbine, and very bad if you sprung a leak. Also a cold day could suck, if you think freezing water pipes sucks, how bout this one.
>>It doesn't have so much as a stock rear view mirror, damn it!
Actualy the trucnk lids are stock, thats the only thing stock. If you ever see them open the trunk on one, (yes they do open) you can see the factory structure.
But yeah I agree, as it is now the cars suck. The problem is there isn't much in way of v8 rwd midsize 2 door cars out there. I'm fine if the body of the car isn't stock, like the shape be stock though, but introduce modern engines and such into it for gods sake. Unfortenly eventualy all the bodys for nascar will be 1 shape, everyone has identical bodies and just puts a manufacture sticker on it. And they don't want electronics to be brought in. They want it to be equal cars and a battle of drivers skill. Unfortently most of us want to see real cars out there and see one company or team come up with stuff to beat the others. And while there at it smash the heck otu of their pretty cars. They good days are gone.
The only thing i can connect to 420 is a john deere tractor from the late 50's. What are you connecting it to?
I guess you eat small pizzas
I love it, wish i had lots of money for it though. I've been waiting for a laptop with a big screen, now there is one. I can't stand small laptops. That was my beef with the ibooks, they are so freaking small, and white. Big screen does not make it any less portable, just makes it more usable.
actually and Ant was one of the animals i thought about, that and Bee's but i think that one is used
The one thing that bugs me more than anything is when they don't have a book on what I'm looking for. It makes me sad and loose intrest in it. I want them to have a Fortran book. Someone who knows fortran write them a book. There is lots up new Engineers and Scientist out there who would like to learn fortran since it's important in their feild. There is so many things written in fortran. Though I think any fortran book would need to cover all versions of fortran. I just find it amazing they don't have one. My C and C++ O'reilly books need a shelf mate.
Also a Cobol book would be fun, found myself wanting to learn it for the hell of it, and a dinosour would be a must on the cover (maybe Bob the Dinosour, or Wally,(one looks like a COBOL programmer and the other is)). Same for Fortran I suppose.
That may be a store to store thing. The one barnes and noble by me has them all together now, they didn't before. Though the University owned one does not. They scamble them everywhere. But at least the Uni owned one has more titles. But yeah, when the arn't in one spot it's a pain. I'm one to just go for the O'reilly book on the topic i'm interested in and buy it without looking at others. I can read the book in the time saved.
yeah, it was on fox when fox was first starting and all they had was movies and other peoples shows. Then they started making there own and axing all that was good aside from the simpsons.
Actualy, I remember on PBS the used to randomly have a show where they would get a group of college engineering students, give them a box of parts, and set up a simple competition for them. They had a period of time with the box of parts to make a small machine for the task, ( i think like a few days) then they had a competition. It was a really good show. But it never seamed to be a real show, just some random few minute thing they threw on tv every now and then. I really liked it.
Thank you, I was struggling to remember the name of that show. I remember when it first came on the air in the US in the late 80's maybe 85. I was a little kid and it was a reason i became a mechanical engineer. I so wish i could see all the episodes of it. I liked them always giving dates for all the stuff for when it would come out. I always try to remember things they showed to see if they were right. I know i used to sit there and think about what i would be doing when it came out. Sitting there picture 1993 so far into the future. Unfortenly I don't think it stayed on the air very long. Though i think it might have been on cable. But i didn't get cable till 1999. Does anyone know if the episodes are avalible anyplace. I would love the shows from the 80's and early 90's on dvd. Watching/reading former visions of the future that wern't far fetched is fun. Even seening things like ads for things from the 80's and such is fun. Also strangly enough the main thing i can remember from the show is the intro. Also remember when the host wore those shoes with the plate on the front of the sole that was suppose to strengthen your legs, later George Castansa did the same, so I know they had one thing correct. Weird the random things you remember from like 1988.
I don't think your examples work for the segway. You examples work for most products though. Just that when you make a jump to something like this is doesn't work. A seqway is very expensive, and doesn't bring very much to the world that the few hundred dollor e-scooters you can buy anywheres allreayd have. Also it's not a problem of cost or new technology and such. It is simple an item with very limited use. And its not something that will continuly find new uses. Things like safty are issues. But just it's use is a problem. It cannot be used in a lot of situations. It really only works in cities, and warm climate ones. Needs cities that have a place for it to run. Many cities arn't going to alow them on sidewalks since they cause more of a safty issue than bikes or roller bladers that are allready banned. Things like a palm pilot may have been over kill for their uses but work universialy and have few limitations, and will continue to find new uses.
I can see segways in uses like mail men chariots, and use in warehouses. But it's not something that the mass public has a use for or can even dream up a use for. If there was the previous electric scooters would have had big impacts allready. Even if a segway in time becomes a $200 dollar item, few people will buy one since they have no use for it, or can't use it do to where they live.
Also walking will always remain popular mode of transportation, this thing will not help reduce the gross national product of fat in the US. Things like palm pilots relived people of trying to remember to much stuff. DVD's replaced a poor techology.
Your anologies work, but not for all things.
You somewhat prove my point. You think your car is superior. The problem is your not comparing on an equal basis. Of course your car is faster and more fun to drive. It is far more powerful. Also safty can be higher to. I don't know what model BMW you are comparing to what model VW. A 5 series BMW is going to be safer than a Golf not do to build quality but by the fact it's much bigger and has a few x more times steel in it. My point was compairing cars of the same class. The actual build quality of your BMW and VW's is very equal. If you were to get very nity grity on which is better on quality both companies would be very high. VW makes very well built cars.
Ok stop with car anologies. A mercedes is no better than a ford. And if you factor in cost the Ford blows it away on quality. All cars are about equal. It's the mind sets like your that apple goes after. They get you to pay more cause you think its better. And people once they have paid so much for something will never say anything that would mean they paid to much. It's an elitist thing. No one wants to think they are a fool on how they spent their money. It's easier to tell yourself you didn't waste it. This is a very common thing. Companies like Mercedes and lexus use it all the time. I call it the Honda syndrome because they are the perfect example.
In the late 70's and early 80's american cars did suck. Many car companies around the world sucked. One company only after have built their first car not much more than a decade before brought forth a car that was slightly better than the current cars and had definite fuel economy gains. It was a Honda. It was a car unlike most others at the time cause it was small. People bought it because it was what they were looking for at the time and had better quality. Though the Honda was a roller skate death trap and disovled in the rain. It got good milage and was good car when you first bought it. There was a trade off though. It wasn't american which was a bigger deal at the time. And it was expensive. But throughout the 80's Honda could charge people way more than an american car because it was slightly better quality. Also during this time they managed to in-grain to their costomers that american cars are forever crap and inferior. The truth was american car companies were in just a dark time. By the late 80's things improved and begain to return to there pre-70's hi-quality. Honda still convinced owners that their Honda's were so much better. By the mid 90's Hondas had become bigger and more american like and American cars quality was better than ever. The main differance was a Honda of equal specs cost $ 10K more than an american car. Honda still had people on the idea that american cars sucked so it was worth it. They had people on the idea that a Honda was better quality simply on the idea of it's a Honda. People were paying money for Honda's and it didn't matter how much you pointed out that an american car was equal to better than there honda they would not belive you. Honda had been imbedded into their minds so much they could not see past the Honda BS. Now things have began to shift. In the last few years, the price of a honda has sharply fallen. People have relized that they can get a car thats better than a Honda for less and they are not willing to pay huge amounts for a honda. People relized that a Civic is not worth 20 some thousand dollars by a long shot. They relized it's a small basic dull car. Much like the american companies had built for years. The american cars were just as good. But cost less and if something did break was far cheaper to fix. American car makers loose money on their small cars and make money on their big cars. Honda can't do this because they don't make big cars and try to make money on ever one they make. American makers make small cars to act as a place holder. They can't afford to not make them or they will loose market share. Also, they know that people who buy their small cars will in time buy their big cars, with this the automaker re-coops their losses. Even higher end cars are sold at a loss. The Chevy Camaro was killed because they lost 2 thousand dollars on everyone they made. Things like this brought the new shift towards american cars. Plus they were buying american which boosted pride.
Even still though there are people who will never be able to let go of the notion that a Honda is some super car. Point out flaws of a honda and they go nuts. Honda knows they will always have these people. They will always buy a honda just because it's a honda even if it sucks. Just like apple knows they will always have a group of people that will always buy a mac no matter how slow, over priced, and poorly styled they are. And those that by them will never admit they paid to much or it was a bad buy. They will in many cases never admit this because it's a sub consious thing. In their mind they trully think they got the better computer/value. Companies like Honda and Apple managed to hit a gold mine in warping minds. Yes they at times will have products that are good and a good value. Things like this is why two people can watch a honda commerical and one laughs at honda over their price or what they are saying, while the other is all about it and agrees with the add. Same with Apple switch commericals. One person would watch them and think they are great and think they are so correct and apple is god and people will switch, the other person (also the majority of people) can watch them and see it as huge BS and never want to buy an apple after watch a commercial that is down right insulting and makes mac users look like total idiots that can't use a computer. But one will never see the others side and thus will result in endless battles in online computer forums.