No, that was the REAL explanation. Some people seem to forget how fucking paranoid we were about communism (and for good reason). People just like to come up with all kinds of back door, secret motives for every thing that happens. Sometimes things actually happen for the reason openly stated.
I know. I understand that. My point is that the fact that the Air Force is working on lasers for fighter planes, in no way impacts our ability to provide armored humvees.
Oh please...this shit is taught to every fucking person in the military (E1 and up). I know this because they taught it to me in basic training. This is not a new, interesting, or even insightful. EVERYONE who his given access to ANY classified material is taught about how information can be obtained in a puzzle piece fashion. Consequently, if news organizations or anyone else publishes information that they should not, it's simply a matter of someone fucking up and not doing their job of keeping their traps shut.
There's a huge difference between "open and transparent" and accidental release of classified material and you better be very careful about it because the consolation prise is fascism. Please don't come here and spew this shit in broad brush strokes about how we need to keep quiet. Classified information IS kept quiet. People who fail to keep classified information quiet should be prosecuted (and usually are unless you are Dick Cheyney) as traitors or whatever is appropriate.
If the choice is between a more open government and the possibility of releasing some potentially valuable information on occassion and a closed government with a very low chance of releasing valuable info, I will take the open one, thank you. You can keep your fascist utopia for yourself.
Actually, we did not invade Vietnam for France. We invaded it to stop the spread of communism. Any other benefit that we might have gotten from it was purely bonus. I find it funny how few people understand why we invaded that country.
There is an extremely rare disease (less that 100 people in the world) that is hereditary that makes it impossible for someone to sleep. However, when the onset of this system appears they ALWAYS die within a few months. There is no cure and it's 100% terminal. Anyone tells you that they never sleep and keep going is full of shit.
"...because the data could be misused by those who don't understand it."
lol...have you ever been to weather.gov? Because if someone has a problem with entering in their zip and seeing temperature and precip predictions then they sure as fuck aren't gonna understand AccuWeather (wich is the EXACT SAME THING). Seriously, an idiot can understand it.
As for Canadian weather data...I would guess that they suck at predicting weather just like we do. What fucking difference does it make to someone in the U.S.?
The only difference is the collusion is more blatant in S. Korea. Next time you want to give me a lesson in monopolies and price fixing, show me what gas station I can go to (in the U.S.) that has a price different than the guy across the street. Strange how all the gas stations charge the same thing give or take a couple of cents, eh?
Maybe you haven't been paying attention much lately, but it's the same shit here lol. Who do you think runs the show in this country? The government? The people? Please. Our system is ripe for corporate exploitation and that's what we have.
Private institutions don't do research simply for "the greater good". They do it to make money. Consequently, there's a conflict of interest. For example, if a drug company has the choice of coming up with a cure for AIDS or treatment for AIDS, you can bet your ass they will treat it and not cure it because there's no money in curing anything. An academic insitution doesn't have to worry about the profits of its research (or at least we'd like to think so).
Perhaps that view is nieve but that's pretty much the way of things.
"Anyway, it's not as if it would be catastrophic if say, an entire species of crocodiles died tomorrow - there are hundreds of species of crocodile, and most are very similar in characteristics. The article doesn't mention a specific species of crocodile because it's probably not important."
Making shards easier to obtain or to allow them to stack is not "fundamentally changing" the class you fucking moron. The class never had shards to begin with. They only added them because for a while in beta some warlock spells were way overpowered. They detuned those spells so they are balanced but they never got rid of the shards. So stfu noob.
"I've noticed an increase in the number of warlocks, not a decrease. "
Yes, that explains why my warlock on the rare occasion I log him in actually gets tons of invites for high level instances where before he almost never did. That's called population decline you fucking retard.
"Plenty of other people don't find it a "chore" and enjoy the class. Stop raining on their parade just because you don't like the class."
Just because some people don't bother to complain about it doesn't make it right. It's wrong. It goes against the design ideals of ALL blizzard games and should be fucking fixed.
"You're not asking to improve the class, you're demanding they change it to fit your play style. That's never going to happen. Just enjoy your other characters."
Yes, I'm asking to improve the class. No, I'm not asking for them to increase the power of a warlock. I'm asking them to make it not a chore to play. Please explain what is wrong with that. No other class is a chore to play...I know because I've played them all. As for your "That's never going to happen" comment, I bet you $1000 you're wrong. The fact that a few hundred people out of 3.5 million think it's ok the way it is doesn't mean jack shit. The bottom line is that blizzard has no choice but to change it if people don't play it. It may take a long time before they come to that realization but I promise you they will. I've played almost every MMO that has existed and the same shit happens every time.
I play every class that exists in game, except priest. And yes, my lock is not my main any longer. What the fuck does that have to do with wanting to improve the class?
"Not having shards would change the dynamics of the class considerably. You'd actually be able to nuke-to-kill instead of DoT-to-kill if you want to shard something. Totally different battle style."
Perhaps you failed reading comprehension. I've stated already that I'm a demo-lock. If they removed shards, it would have zero impact on the way I play my warlock. Also, any good destructo lock will carry SHITLOADS of shards so they can nuke to their heart's content. If they don't, then they either suck or they're stupid.
"It would completely change how the game is played by warlocks, and we'd basically become crit whores with DD spells. If you wanted to be a crit whore with massive direct damage, there's this class called "Mage" you should investigate."
Perhaps you haven't noticed but 90% of all warlocks are destruction locks. WHICH MEANS THEY ARE CRIT WHORE NUKERS. FFS, do you ever read the boards about warlocks bragging they can nuke harder than a mage? Guess not. And you supposedly go to MC? I'd like to see that clusterfuck.
"There's a reason why a lot of people don't play warlocks anymore...because they can't read a class description? Or because they ain't all that bright? Oooh, wait, I know, it's because they'd rather roll a weaksauce easy mode shaman or rogue."
It's because the class is a pain in the ass to play. I love how after supposedly fixing this thee times that my pet will still get lost following me on my mount. I love travelling to XP zones to get shards so I can go PvP. It's so fun!! I tell all my friends about it! I love expending several thousand mana just to walk out the front door when I start a gaming session. Sorry but I don't see the fun. Please, please, oh great one, show me where the fun is playing this FUCKING class!
"If you want to have a spot in any end-game PvE you choose to do, roll a warlock, priest, or druid."
Yeah, cuz nobody wants to play a fucking warlock anymore. I actually logged in my 60 warlock two days ago and got a half dozen invites in 30 minutes to do high lvl instances. Two months ago I almost never got an invite. Say what you want but the fact that nobody wants to play a lock even after the lovin' speaks volumes. If it makes you feel better to think you are just more talented a player and nobody else can handle it, then feel free.:)
That's funny...I've used it for fighting many times to secure victory. Just because you don't see it's potential in a fight, doesn't mean everyone else doesn't. Warlocks have no escape spell. I would like to see a warlock escape my hunter with a VW sac shield. His only chance of survival will be laughing my ass off.
I have better things to do with my time then to spend it getting bored shitless in BG. Also, if you're using drain soul in PvP you fucking suck. I would analy rape you in game. Nice try noob. Try and pretend you have a fucking clue with someone else.
rofl...you actually want me to use drain soul in pvp? The worst fucking pvp spell in the game? I might as well just/sit and wait to die. Sorry but if you haven't played a warlock to high level you just don't know what you're talking about. Also, it's very possible I will burn more shards in a single fight than I can get back.
For example, against a decent opponent I will undoubtedly have to summon another pet (cuz I had to sac void, etc.), so now I burn another shard to get another pet. That's two shards gone: one before combat, and one after. The most I'll get from my opponent is a single shard. Gimme a ring when drain sould become a worthly pvp spell and I MIGHT give you credit for that one shard. Until then, you will have to do a lot better.
Honestly, I don't see what the big fucking deal is. Why won't blizzard change it? It doesn't make us overpowered in any way so if the only reason to have them is for RP purposes, that's fine but make it so I can get shards off of anything. Or at least make it so I can stack the fucking things. There's a reason why a lot of people don't play warlocks anymore...
"Its incredably easy to get the shards when you are a competent player."
Actually, no -- it isn't. There are numerous zones in the game where you simply cannot kill anything that gives xp and gives you a shard. I shouldn't have to travel the world just so I can get ready to play where I want to play.
"Another thing you have to think about is that a warlock can do plenty without the shards. Sure, their hella more effective with them... but you can still kick ass without. If you decide to boost only the skills that are use with shards, than that's your issue."
Well, there are things you can do but you are definitely gimping yourself. For my warlock to simply move out of town after logging in requires me to expend FOUR fucking non-stacking shards. Because if I don't, it's almost guaranteed that some fuckwad will kill me when he has all of 10hp left and I will want to shoot someone because I could have one had I properly prepared. Sorry, but without shards you're gimped and I'm a demo-lock.
At the end of the day, the warlock is simply too high maintenance. That's why I don't play him anymore. Yeah, I can kill just about anyone if I prep to the max but it's simply too much work for too little benefit. They made all these nifty changes to the warlock but none of it fixes the shard issue. And frankly, If I lose another pet because it can't keep up, I'll fucking shoot myself. How is this class supposed to be fun? I understand that they want it to require a lot of skill and subtlety to play but that doesn't mean it has to be a fucking pain in the ass.
It's unfortunate that Blizzard lost the core tenant of it's founders which is, "The game has to be fun." Note: it doesn't say has to be fun for SOME of the classes. It has to be fun, PERIOD.
All they have to do is set a flag that indicates the lowbie attacked first and then they are fair game. What's so fucking difficult? The point of his post is that 60's exploit there power eggregiously at the sake of other people's fun.
My solution to this was to load my 60 and fuck over every alliance noobie I could find. Of course, if you could get DKs for this then it wouldn't be necessary for me to grief. Until then, I fully intend to make them as miserable as possible. Honestly, I hope a lot of them quit because of it. Less alliance = more fun imo.
"Soul Shards: Please go read the class description. You should have known what you were getting into when you signed up. Your lack of ability to RTFM is not my (or Blizzard's) problem."
RTFP. He didn't say get rid of shards. He said make them purchaseable, etc. If you think the shard situation is fine the way it is, then you're a fucking moron. Warlocks are completely gimped without shards, it's that simple. Given that, there's no reason it should be a pain in the ass to get them.
"For the uninitiated, there are a bunch of warlocks on the forums that think all warlocks should be buffed to the point of uberness." I don't agree with everything he's asking for but I also didn't see him ask for anything that would make warlocks "uber".
Apparently having a 60 warlock doesn't make one as intelligent as one might think...
"I thought the comment about escaping was odd. Sacrificing the void walker seems to work well for my warlock friend."
You must be kidding. Sacrifice is "delay the inevitable" it's not an escape spell of any sort. I have never had a warlock escape my hunter. It's simply not possible. A warlock can't really escape anything unless their persuer desides to let them go.
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No, that was the REAL explanation. Some people seem to forget how fucking paranoid we were about communism (and for good reason). People just like to come up with all kinds of back door, secret motives for every thing that happens. Sometimes things actually happen for the reason openly stated.
I know. I understand that. My point is that the fact that the Air Force is working on lasers for fighter planes, in no way impacts our ability to provide armored humvees.
Oh please...this shit is taught to every fucking person in the military (E1 and up). I know this because they taught it to me in basic training. This is not a new, interesting, or even insightful. EVERYONE who his given access to ANY classified material is taught about how information can be obtained in a puzzle piece fashion. Consequently, if news organizations or anyone else publishes information that they should not, it's simply a matter of someone fucking up and not doing their job of keeping their traps shut.
There's a huge difference between "open and transparent" and accidental release of classified material and you better be very careful about it because the consolation prise is fascism. Please don't come here and spew this shit in broad brush strokes about how we need to keep quiet. Classified information IS kept quiet. People who fail to keep classified information quiet should be prosecuted (and usually are unless you are Dick Cheyney) as traitors or whatever is appropriate.
If the choice is between a more open government and the possibility of releasing some potentially valuable information on occassion and a closed government with a very low chance of releasing valuable info, I will take the open one, thank you. You can keep your fascist utopia for yourself.
4 out of 5 swinging dicks need to learn that adding lasers to fighters has absolutely no impact or relevance to steel plated humvees.
Actually, we did not invade Vietnam for France. We invaded it to stop the spread of communism. Any other benefit that we might have gotten from it was purely bonus. I find it funny how few people understand why we invaded that country.
There is an extremely rare disease (less that 100 people in the world) that is hereditary that makes it impossible for someone to sleep. However, when the onset of this system appears they ALWAYS die within a few months. There is no cure and it's 100% terminal. Anyone tells you that they never sleep and keep going is full of shit.
"...because the data could be misused by those who don't understand it."
lol...have you ever been to weather.gov? Because if someone has a problem with entering in their zip and seeing temperature and precip predictions then they sure as fuck aren't gonna understand AccuWeather (wich is the EXACT SAME THING). Seriously, an idiot can understand it.
As for Canadian weather data...I would guess that they suck at predicting weather just like we do. What fucking difference does it make to someone in the U.S.?
The only difference is the collusion is more blatant in S. Korea. Next time you want to give me a lesson in monopolies and price fixing, show me what gas station I can go to (in the U.S.) that has a price different than the guy across the street. Strange how all the gas stations charge the same thing give or take a couple of cents, eh?
Cool. What section of the constitution covers the subsidization of giant corporations?
Maybe you haven't been paying attention much lately, but it's the same shit here lol. Who do you think runs the show in this country? The government? The people? Please. Our system is ripe for corporate exploitation and that's what we have.
Private institutions don't do research simply for "the greater good". They do it to make money. Consequently, there's a conflict of interest. For example, if a drug company has the choice of coming up with a cure for AIDS or treatment for AIDS, you can bet your ass they will treat it and not cure it because there's no money in curing anything. An academic insitution doesn't have to worry about the profits of its research (or at least we'd like to think so).
Perhaps that view is nieve but that's pretty much the way of things.
"Anyway, it's not as if it would be catastrophic if say, an entire species of crocodiles died tomorrow - there are hundreds of species of crocodile, and most are very similar in characteristics. The article doesn't mention a specific species of crocodile because it's probably not important."
One might say the same thing about humans.
Making shards easier to obtain or to allow them to stack is not "fundamentally changing" the class you fucking moron. The class never had shards to begin with. They only added them because for a while in beta some warlock spells were way overpowered. They detuned those spells so they are balanced but they never got rid of the shards. So stfu noob.
"I've noticed an increase in the number of warlocks, not a decrease. "
Yes, that explains why my warlock on the rare occasion I log him in actually gets tons of invites for high level instances where before he almost never did. That's called population decline you fucking retard.
"Plenty of other people don't find it a "chore" and enjoy the class. Stop raining on their parade just because you don't like the class."
Just because some people don't bother to complain about it doesn't make it right. It's wrong. It goes against the design ideals of ALL blizzard games and should be fucking fixed.
People are trampling baby carriages for a pos laptop like that? I doubt it's powerful enough to play pr0n movies.
Sad.
"You're not asking to improve the class, you're demanding they change it to fit your play style. That's never going to happen. Just enjoy your other characters."
Yes, I'm asking to improve the class. No, I'm not asking for them to increase the power of a warlock. I'm asking them to make it not a chore to play. Please explain what is wrong with that. No other class is a chore to play...I know because I've played them all. As for your "That's never going to happen" comment, I bet you $1000 you're wrong. The fact that a few hundred people out of 3.5 million think it's ok the way it is doesn't mean jack shit. The bottom line is that blizzard has no choice but to change it if people don't play it. It may take a long time before they come to that realization but I promise you they will. I've played almost every MMO that has existed and the same shit happens every time.
I play every class that exists in game, except priest. And yes, my lock is not my main any longer. What the fuck does that have to do with wanting to improve the class?
"Not having shards would change the dynamics of the class considerably. You'd actually be able to nuke-to-kill instead of DoT-to-kill if you want to shard something. Totally different battle style."
:)
Perhaps you failed reading comprehension. I've stated already that I'm a demo-lock. If they removed shards, it would have zero impact on the way I play my warlock. Also, any good destructo lock will carry SHITLOADS of shards so they can nuke to their heart's content. If they don't, then they either suck or they're stupid.
"It would completely change how the game is played by warlocks, and we'd basically become crit whores with DD spells. If you wanted to be a crit whore with massive direct damage, there's this class called "Mage" you should investigate."
Perhaps you haven't noticed but 90% of all warlocks are destruction locks. WHICH MEANS THEY ARE CRIT WHORE NUKERS. FFS, do you ever read the boards about warlocks bragging they can nuke harder than a mage? Guess not. And you supposedly go to MC? I'd like to see that clusterfuck.
"There's a reason why a lot of people don't play warlocks anymore...because they can't read a class description? Or because they ain't all that bright? Oooh, wait, I know, it's because they'd rather roll a weaksauce easy mode shaman or rogue."
It's because the class is a pain in the ass to play. I love how after supposedly fixing this thee times that my pet will still get lost following me on my mount. I love travelling to XP zones to get shards so I can go PvP. It's so fun!! I tell all my friends about it! I love expending several thousand mana just to walk out the front door when I start a gaming session. Sorry but I don't see the fun. Please, please, oh great one, show me where the fun is playing this FUCKING class!
"If you want to have a spot in any end-game PvE you choose to do, roll a warlock, priest, or druid."
Yeah, cuz nobody wants to play a fucking warlock anymore. I actually logged in my 60 warlock two days ago and got a half dozen invites in 30 minutes to do high lvl instances. Two months ago I almost never got an invite. Say what you want but the fact that nobody wants to play a lock even after the lovin' speaks volumes. If it makes you feel better to think you are just more talented a player and nobody else can handle it, then feel free.
That's funny...I've used it for fighting many times to secure victory. Just because you don't see it's potential in a fight, doesn't mean everyone else doesn't. Warlocks have no escape spell. I would like to see a warlock escape my hunter with a VW sac shield. His only chance of survival will be laughing my ass off.
I have better things to do with my time then to spend it getting bored shitless in BG. Also, if you're using drain soul in PvP you fucking suck. I would analy rape you in game. Nice try noob. Try and pretend you have a fucking clue with someone else.
rofl...you actually want me to use drain soul in pvp? The worst fucking pvp spell in the game? I might as well just /sit and wait to die. Sorry but if you haven't played a warlock to high level you just don't know what you're talking about. Also, it's very possible I will burn more shards in a single fight than I can get back.
For example, against a decent opponent I will undoubtedly have to summon another pet (cuz I had to sac void, etc.), so now I burn another shard to get another pet. That's two shards gone: one before combat, and one after. The most I'll get from my opponent is a single shard. Gimme a ring when drain sould become a worthly pvp spell and I MIGHT give you credit for that one shard. Until then, you will have to do a lot better.
Honestly, I don't see what the big fucking deal is. Why won't blizzard change it? It doesn't make us overpowered in any way so if the only reason to have them is for RP purposes, that's fine but make it so I can get shards off of anything. Or at least make it so I can stack the fucking things. There's a reason why a lot of people don't play warlocks anymore...
Honestly, I'd rather just grief people. It's my way of protesting retarded game design. I also find PVE only games to be boring.
"Its incredably easy to get the shards when you are a competent player."
Actually, no -- it isn't. There are numerous zones in the game where you simply cannot kill anything that gives xp and gives you a shard. I shouldn't have to travel the world just so I can get ready to play where I want to play.
"Another thing you have to think about is that a warlock can do plenty without the shards. Sure, their hella more effective with them... but you can still kick ass without. If you decide to boost only the skills that are use with shards, than that's your issue."
Well, there are things you can do but you are definitely gimping yourself. For my warlock to simply move out of town after logging in requires me to expend FOUR fucking non-stacking shards. Because if I don't, it's almost guaranteed that some fuckwad will kill me when he has all of 10hp left and I will want to shoot someone because I could have one had I properly prepared. Sorry, but without shards you're gimped and I'm a demo-lock.
At the end of the day, the warlock is simply too high maintenance. That's why I don't play him anymore. Yeah, I can kill just about anyone if I prep to the max but it's simply too much work for too little benefit. They made all these nifty changes to the warlock but none of it fixes the shard issue. And frankly, If I lose another pet because it can't keep up, I'll fucking shoot myself. How is this class supposed to be fun? I understand that they want it to require a lot of skill and subtlety to play but that doesn't mean it has to be a fucking pain in the ass.
It's unfortunate that Blizzard lost the core tenant of it's founders which is, "The game has to be fun." Note: it doesn't say has to be fun for SOME of the classes. It has to be fun, PERIOD.
All they have to do is set a flag that indicates the lowbie attacked first and then they are fair game. What's so fucking difficult? The point of his post is that 60's exploit there power eggregiously at the sake of other people's fun.
My solution to this was to load my 60 and fuck over every alliance noobie I could find. Of course, if you could get DKs for this then it wouldn't be necessary for me to grief. Until then, I fully intend to make them as miserable as possible. Honestly, I hope a lot of them quit because of it. Less alliance = more fun imo.
"Soul Shards: Please go read the class description. You should have known what you were getting into when you signed up. Your lack of ability to RTFM is not my (or Blizzard's) problem."
RTFP. He didn't say get rid of shards. He said make them purchaseable, etc. If you think the shard situation is fine the way it is, then you're a fucking moron. Warlocks are completely gimped without shards, it's that simple. Given that, there's no reason it should be a pain in the ass to get them.
"For the uninitiated, there are a bunch of warlocks on the forums that think all warlocks should be buffed to the point of uberness."
I don't agree with everything he's asking for but I also didn't see him ask for anything that would make warlocks "uber".
Apparently having a 60 warlock doesn't make one as intelligent as one might think...
"I thought the comment about escaping was odd. Sacrificing the void walker seems to work well for my warlock friend."
You must be kidding. Sacrifice is "delay the inevitable" it's not an escape spell of any sort. I have never had a warlock escape my hunter. It's simply not possible. A warlock can't really escape anything unless their persuer desides to let them go.