So....what's the problem? Hundreds of features can be used to do evil.
Damn!...I forgot to cover the USB hole again! Now a hacker can plug a dirty cable in it!
More seriously, I get it, it's the fact that it is a hidden feature. Still, leave MS alone and stop the fuzz. I may not like them; I may not stand them, but you seem to hate them more^^
Well, then you just hit my point: There was no need to drop steam, just steam updates. Old system? -> No new games for you! That's how it should work! It was very tedious, oh my! It worked BEFORE didn't it? What changed? their goals? technology? Of course *that* changed, but they didn't have to fully DROP support! They could've just stopped it. By doing that, all those old games which can only be run through steam, became deprecated. You see, your arguments are being centralized on yourself, whereas I am trying to look at this from an abstract platform-independent way. Is your PC not manufactured anymore? Oh, no? Well, then, let's block access to it, since it's so deprecated and has such crappy hardware for which drivers can't be written anymore. Do you see how that sounds lame? Of course I understand why they dropped it, I just think that a better alternative -- such as, once again, dropping updates -- could be more reliable, useful and ethically correct.
Yes, it made sense, of course, to dump Windows. With Linux it is worse even when a new kernel gets out or a new libc version is out! But the thing is that we let them control us; it is much like what recently happened with the Xbox. Same thing can happen here. Old games don't need to be thrown away, and old platforms don't present threats. Or do they? If they can't progress because of them, issue a warning that the app won't be updated due to the system. If it brings security risks, then it might be dangerous -- and I'm sure that's what happened to Steam. You see, the fact that we can doesn't mean we should. And sometimes, our understanding of "should" is wrong.
But oh well, nobody seems to care anymore, they only want their bellies to be fed.
Sure, and it probably won't be used for people to run WoW either;) But people like my mother (I'd like to know where I got my skills from), who can't even acknowledge THREE title bar buttons, need this kind of computer. After all, how do we expect them to use Linux if they don't even know what it is? -- If they don't know what a kernel is?. Windows was made for the user, and is so popular that it doesn't need any kind of introduction. Linux, on the other hand, needs basic concepts understood, even due to its architectures. Of course alternatives like this are useful, but they remove the full capabilities of Linux right there. IMO, ofc.
"I can't even mount non ntfs or fat filesystems in Windows. One could argue that Cygwin is to Windows as Wine is to Linux"
One can argue, but that "one" would be terribly wrong. Wine is much more than Cygwin. Just try to get a simple app such as cat running natively, without recompiling it, like we do with Windows' apps. That's what's so good about wine, it's basically just a reimplementation, not a port of anything -- and that, my friend(s), is incredible.
Oh, and doing the crazy thing of answering myself, has anyone noticed the tags on the story? Great "journalism" why don't we just name it: "Google, evil, together, death", huh?
Back in the day, Steam was fun. I remember coming home to my 56kbps connection happy to see that Steam1 screen greeting me to play. Now it's just a piece of dumbshit which has to be updated every 67th second. Fuck them. I've learned to deeply hate steam because of their constant updating, bringing slower and slower responsiveness.
Heck, from what I can see, they have to fit the needs of the game developers. If that were a real company with real ethics, then they would force the fuckface developers (yes, they TOO are the root of this evil) to use what they can. Yes, it would be like vendor-lock-in. But at least other users wouldn't be dumped.
I find it amazing that so many idiots use Steam, knowing that it can, all of a sudden, dump an existing platform (remember the Windows98 issue? BOOOHOO).
Now, you pro-steam bastards, mod me down.
On the topic: VAC is crap; I remember when just changing one or two.text bytes did the trick to get undetectable hacks to go through the "Holly" VAC2. I don't know if it still works like this, but if Steam gets deep into your PC, then that's one more reason to give them the finger. Heel, even hacking Wine to get me some Wallhacks can be done;) Likewise, hacked drivers can do the same. It's just not entirely possible to prevent cheating -- the problem is that ignorant gamers think that it is easy to fix. Since I'm raging: Fuck Them Too.
Sure, and since you know ALL the asians in the world, including those working hard 24/7 in factories just to get something to eat, you can officially say that about 30% of the world's population can solve rubik's cube that fast.
Let the user decide. Don't be idiots trying to judge everything in the world. If the user is too silly, then bring a default option -- that's the only reason for this debate IMO.
First, and most important: I told you so! Really, I told you that you *had* to include a Single Document Interface while keeping the original Multi Window Interface!
Second: Seems like something pretty amazing; I've used it and prefered it over Photoshop for 3 years now, but I'm no artist. These changes make me think of sentences such as: "Oh my, oh my!! With this, I can draw letters in the sky!".
Why use either primarly? Merge them into different tasks.
"I found myself cursing at not being able to copy the diagram on the board"
That's the perfect example! It's much easier to copy that by hand, and then copy it to the PC later, at home. This also promotes revision of the class-work, possibly increasing your productivity.
Three words: Because I care. Unlike selfish people, I care that other people can benefit; I care that other people never get to suffer. I am tired of looking at them and seeing how manipulated they can be.
It's not about me, it's about them. It's their problem, not mine -- and yet I feel like I should help them.
Right. If you read only the last part of my comment, you'd see that I completely agree with you. They are greedy and they are, excuse me, the biggest fucking retarded pricks on earth. Go on funding them by using Windows, Office, XBox, Zune and whatever else you use. Your problem now, I don't use any of that.
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Well, because....money has to be made ;)
So....what's the problem? Hundreds of features can be used to do evil.
Damn!...I forgot to cover the USB hole again! Now a hacker can plug a dirty cable in it!
More seriously, I get it, it's the fact that it is a hidden feature. Still, leave MS alone and stop the fuzz. I may not like them; I may not stand them, but you seem to hate them more^^
/.? No, it's a mental hallucination. Go back to sleep and it shall be reborn.
Well, then you just hit my point: There was no need to drop steam, just steam updates. Old system? -> No new games for you! That's how it should work! It was very tedious, oh my! It worked BEFORE didn't it? What changed? their goals? technology? Of course *that* changed, but they didn't have to fully DROP support! They could've just stopped it. By doing that, all those old games which can only be run through steam, became deprecated. You see, your arguments are being centralized on yourself, whereas I am trying to look at this from an abstract platform-independent way. Is your PC not manufactured anymore? Oh, no? Well, then, let's block access to it, since it's so deprecated and has such crappy hardware for which drivers can't be written anymore. Do you see how that sounds lame? Of course I understand why they dropped it, I just think that a better alternative -- such as, once again, dropping updates -- could be more reliable, useful and ethically correct.
Cowboy Neal can already do this.
Yes, it made sense, of course, to dump Windows. With Linux it is worse even when a new kernel gets out or a new libc version is out! But the thing is that we let them control us; it is much like what recently happened with the Xbox. Same thing can happen here. Old games don't need to be thrown away, and old platforms don't present threats. Or do they? If they can't progress because of them, issue a warning that the app won't be updated due to the system. If it brings security risks, then it might be dangerous -- and I'm sure that's what happened to Steam.
You see, the fact that we can doesn't mean we should. And sometimes, our understanding of "should" is wrong.
But oh well, nobody seems to care anymore, they only want their bellies to be fed.
Sure, and it probably won't be used for people to run WoW either ;) But people like my mother (I'd like to know where I got my skills from), who can't even acknowledge THREE title bar buttons, need this kind of computer. After all, how do we expect them to use Linux if they don't even know what it is? -- If they don't know what a kernel is?. Windows was made for the user, and is so popular that it doesn't need any kind of introduction. Linux, on the other hand, needs basic concepts understood, even due to its architectures. Of course alternatives like this are useful, but they remove the full capabilities of Linux right there. IMO, ofc.
"I can't even mount non ntfs or fat filesystems in Windows. One could argue that Cygwin is to Windows as Wine is to Linux"
One can argue, but that "one" would be terribly wrong. Wine is much more than Cygwin. Just try to get a simple app such as cat running natively, without recompiling it, like we do with Windows' apps. That's what's so good about wine, it's basically just a reimplementation, not a port of anything -- and that, my friend(s), is incredible.
If it trully helps less technical people, then I think it can contribute as living proof that Linux (or GNU/Linux, you decide) can be user friendly.
Rock on!
Oh, and doing the crazy thing of answering myself, has anyone noticed the tags on the story? Great "journalism" why don't we just name it: "Google, evil, together, death", huh?
They do it because they CAN. Full-stop. Either we get together and do something about it, or we shut up and let them do it.
Back in the day, Steam was fun. I remember coming home to my 56kbps connection happy to see that Steam1 screen greeting me to play. Now it's just a piece of dumbshit which has to be updated every 67th second. Fuck them. I've learned to deeply hate steam because of their constant updating, bringing slower and slower responsiveness.
.text bytes did the trick to get undetectable hacks to go through the "Holly" VAC2. I don't know if it still works like this, but if Steam gets deep into your PC, then that's one more reason to give them the finger. Heel, even hacking Wine to get me some Wallhacks can be done ;) Likewise, hacked drivers can do the same. It's just not entirely possible to prevent cheating -- the problem is that ignorant gamers think that it is easy to fix. Since I'm raging: Fuck Them Too.
Heck, from what I can see, they have to fit the needs of the game developers. If that were a real company with real ethics, then they would force the fuckface developers (yes, they TOO are the root of this evil) to use what they can. Yes, it would be like vendor-lock-in. But at least other users wouldn't be dumped.
I find it amazing that so many idiots use Steam, knowing that it can, all of a sudden, dump an existing platform (remember the Windows98 issue? BOOOHOO).
Now, you pro-steam bastards, mod me down.
On the topic: VAC is crap; I remember when just changing one or two
I just threw mine out the window! There, problem solved!
Sure, and since you know ALL the asians in the world, including those working hard 24/7 in factories just to get something to eat, you can officially say that about 30% of the world's population can solve rubik's cube that fast.
;)
I love how there aren't any fallacies there.
Capable of killing! Now, join me!!!!111 Let's get those bastards for the evil they are doing!!!11111onetacular!
Or, you know, let them go bankrupt on their own pieces of shit.
If you hate Google: Yes. If you don't: No. If you want Bananas: Get them.
I suppose you weren't kind enough to report that?
No?
Well then, screw you, someone might say, as it is beta and you didn'd do your part.
Let the user decide. Don't be idiots trying to judge everything in the world. If the user is too silly, then bring a default option -- that's the only reason for this debate IMO.
Right, mod me to Offtopic :). But I'm pleased that srussia, parent, got his/her righteous +5 funny.
OffTopic?! That's got to go as +Funny!
Just get an older version, with the given consequences. Complain to them, not to /. OR, if you can code, "do it yourself" ;)
First, and most important: I told you so! Really, I told you that you *had* to include a Single Document Interface while keeping the original Multi Window Interface!
Second: Seems like something pretty amazing; I've used it and prefered it over Photoshop for 3 years now, but I'm no artist. These changes make me think of sentences such as: "Oh my, oh my!! With this, I can draw letters in the sky!".
Why use either primarly? Merge them into different tasks.
"I found myself cursing at not being able to copy the diagram on the board"
That's the perfect example! It's much easier to copy that by hand, and then copy it to the PC later, at home. This also promotes revision of the class-work, possibly increasing your productivity.
Three words: Because I care. Unlike selfish people, I care that other people can benefit; I care that other people never get to suffer. I am tired of looking at them and seeing how manipulated they can be.
It's not about me, it's about them. It's their problem, not mine -- and yet I feel like I should help them.
Right. If you read only the last part of my comment, you'd see that I completely agree with you. They are greedy and they are, excuse me, the biggest fucking retarded pricks on earth. Go on funding them by using Windows, Office, XBox, Zune and whatever else you use. Your problem now, I don't use any of that.