I subcontract for a company in the MD/DC area. I work for them 8-10 hours a day and I also do other work both for other clients and for my own company's projects.
I also spend a lot of time with my kids. Its all about *making the time* and setting limits. Your family should come first, no matter what indoctrination your current or future employer has given you.
Also, it is encumbent upon you to build in and plan for time that you can spend with your family. Most of the contractors/employees that I work with are married and have one or more kids, so there is nothing stopping you.
Alexis Do Tocqueville used to be a reputable firm. Now, I don't believe a word they say. It amazes me how they are trying to focus hatred on Free Software over the current outsourcing trend.
The plain and simple truth of the matter is that the market was too fat to begin with. To many companies were charging to much for products or services and they're feeling it now.
To many contractors were charging $400/hr instead of reasonable rates. It would have happened *anyway*, anyone who says differently is blowing smoke or selling something.
They're idiots, no one else pays attention to them, why should you.
If your stupid enough to steal something, you shouldn't be able to get updates. This is like stealing a car and then going back to the owner for help fixing the car. It's just stupid.
I believe that people's licenses on things they create should be respected. Just as I prefer and respect Free Software, some people prefer proprietary software. When you disobey the license by not paying you're in violation and you don't deserve the priviledges (if any) that the license grants you.
GNUstep has been in alpha a while because it's fairly complex and we've also got only a handfull of developers. Whereas KDE has hundreds of developers, we have 30.:) It hardly seems fair to compare one to the other.
Also, you should look further than any one app (in your case GWorkspace) to gauge the stability of GNUstep as a whole. There are many apps which run reliably and are completely stable under GNUstep. I, personally, haven't had a problem with GWorkspace recently.
This is very likely because Apple is in the middle of transitioning these applications themselves.:) Remember iTunes was available on Mac OS 9, I believe. So it would have to have been written using the old APIs.
Check out wiki.gnustep.org for a list of applications and other information on GNUstep. There are around 40 (last I checked, not a complete list) applications which are currently in use on GNUstep and the number is growing.
I maintain Gorm (the IB clone), which is fully functional at this point. You've got to realize that the website is only updated every so often. So GNUstep is more complete than you think.
It was said by the "crystal beings" on the planet that was being terraformed. They were sort of like living computers. They hooked the Universal Translator up to this thing and its first words were "Ugly.... ugly bags of mostly water..".
Again, for the dense (this means you)... How is proprietary better when even those who can, or would read the code can't?
BTW, I did read Ken Thompson's article. I don't agree though, that it's better to keep something closed to make it "more secure". That's just fucking stupid.
And keeping it proprietary so that only a limited number of people can look at it helps how?
More eyes is better. And I never said I could vet out 2 million lines of code. I said that at least having the *option* to vet the code if I wanted to makes me feel better.
Also, if the thing were open source, do you think that they would have added such an obvious hole? No. Software will *always* have bugs, it's part of the business. I never claimed Open Source as a panacea. Only as a deterrent from backdooring your clients.:)
Your talk is the same trashtalk I expect from people who don't see the point. I'm not spouting rhetoric here.
There is always the possibility of blanking the device's ROM and starting over instead if just letting it remain dead. Yes, this might require someone from CISCO to come to the site, so what?
This is one of the reasons why closed source manufacturers scare me. They can put whatever they want into the product and you're left to their mercy.
Of course acting professional doesn't mean you have to stand for this. If the employer will allow you to refuse, then refuse. Any company that faults you for that, doesn't deserve to get mentioned in your list of references anyway.
Not remotely possible for them to sue. The best they can say is "you didn't do your job when you trained this guy". Then again... if the guy doesn't speak good english or there is another language barrier, then how can you be expected to *force* them to understand what you're saying.
Also, it's very difficult to prove someone was trained "badly". How much the person picks up is entirely up to them. If the person is so daft and just doesn't "get it" in the time allotted, oh well... what's a guy to do??;)
Also, if you're training your replacement, your co-workers will likely being doing the same thing soon, so there's no worry about "sabotaging" them, since they'll be joining you shortly in the unemployment line.:)
Which was asking for Sun to open source the Lighthouse applications which were a fairly cool set of applications available for the NeXT and could be ported to Mac OS X or to Linux using GNUstep.
Sun then had this reaction:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/09/22/suns_mac os _x_suite/
Whether this was a direct reaction to the petition and the email conversation I had with a number of execs at Sun, I'm not sure.
But it shocks me to see that they would be willing to open Java, their flagship product, but yet would be unwilling to open a set of applications which are of little consequence to them.
There is no such thing in Copyright law which says this. Unless you have a line-by-line copy of a significant amount of code, you're chances at proving infringement are remote, at best. If you'll notice SCO has progressively backed down it's case again and again.
We've gone from "full blown copying of 1M+ lines" to "no copying, but those are our derived works" to "we claim these header files" to "Linux is a riff on UNIX". Oh, please.:)
Come on, Darl, you mean to tell me you think that someone can't write something *similar* to something else without infringing?
What about Free DOS and the myriad of other OSes out there. Hell, according to this logic, Windows would infringe. Why don't you go sue MS? Oh wait, that would be biting the hand that feeds you.:)
Gates and Microsoft will be left behind by the current paradigm shift.
This shift has very little to do with Open Source or Free Software, although they are convenient mediums for it. The shift is towards open standards. By making a piece of software Open Source/Free Software, you expose its protocols to the world.
This is what customers want. They don't want lock-in, they don't want lack of interoperability. They want their machines to play together without problems.
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I subcontract for a company in the MD/DC area. I work for them 8-10 hours a day and I also do other work both for other clients and for my own company's projects.
I also spend a lot of time with my kids. Its all about *making the time* and setting limits. Your family should come first, no matter what indoctrination your current or future employer has given you.
Also, it is encumbent upon you to build in and plan for time that you can spend with your family. Most of the contractors/employees that I work with are married and have one or more kids, so there is nothing stopping you.
Just thought that might help, GJC
DOS even had a GUI. ;) So I'm not sure that the Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V can even be considered a "standard".
GJC
this is a patent on the idea of launching different functions depending on how and the length of time a user presses a button.
Now, of course, the patent is ridiculous, but it cannot be read so broadly.
GJC
MS is cranking up the FUD machine.
GJC
Has anyone else noticed an increase in ANTI-FLOSS propoganda since it became clear that the SCO debacle isn't the answer to the status quo's problems?
GJC
Alexis Do Tocqueville used to be a reputable firm. Now, I don't believe a word they say. It amazes me how they are trying to focus hatred on Free Software over the current outsourcing trend.
The plain and simple truth of the matter is that the market was too fat to begin with. To many companies were charging to much for products or services and they're feeling it now.
To many contractors were charging $400/hr instead of reasonable rates. It would have happened *anyway*, anyone who says differently is blowing smoke or selling something.
They're idiots, no one else pays attention to them, why should you.
GJC
If your stupid enough to steal something, you shouldn't be able to get updates. This is like stealing a car and then going back to the owner for help fixing the car. It's just stupid.
I believe that people's licenses on things they create should be respected. Just as I prefer and respect Free Software, some people prefer proprietary software. When you disobey the license by not paying you're in violation and you don't deserve the priviledges (if any) that the license grants you.
GJC
GNUstep has been in alpha a while because it's fairly complex and we've also got only a handfull of developers. Whereas KDE has hundreds of developers, we have 30. :) It hardly seems fair to compare one to the other.
Also, you should look further than any one app (in your case GWorkspace) to gauge the stability of GNUstep as a whole. There are many apps which run reliably and are completely stable under GNUstep. I, personally, haven't had a problem with GWorkspace recently.
GJC
This is very likely because Apple is in the middle of transitioning these applications themselves. :) Remember iTunes was available on Mac OS 9, I believe. So it would have to have been written using the old APIs.
GJC
Check out wiki.gnustep.org for a list of applications and other information on GNUstep. There are around 40 (last I checked, not a complete list) applications which are currently in use on GNUstep and the number is growing.
I maintain Gorm (the IB clone), which is fully functional at this point. You've got to realize that the website is only updated every so often. So GNUstep is more complete than you think.
GJC
It was said by the "crystal beings" on the planet that was being terraformed. They were sort of like living computers. They hooked the Universal Translator up to this thing and its first words were "Ugly.... ugly bags of mostly water..".
GJC
the patent? It's not patented until its granted. GJC
Again, for the dense (this means you)... How is proprietary better when even those who can, or would read the code can't?
BTW, I did read Ken Thompson's article. I don't agree though, that it's better to keep something closed to make it "more secure". That's just fucking stupid.
GJC
OldMiner,
:)
And keeping it proprietary so that only a limited number of people can look at it helps how?
More eyes is better. And I never said I could vet out 2 million lines of code. I said that at least having the *option* to vet the code if I wanted to makes me feel better.
Also, if the thing were open source, do you think that they would have added such an obvious hole? No. Software will *always* have bugs, it's part of the business. I never claimed Open Source as a panacea. Only as a deterrent from backdooring your clients.
Your talk is the same trashtalk I expect from people who don't see the point. I'm not spouting rhetoric here.
GJC
There is always the possibility of blanking the device's ROM and starting over instead if just letting it remain dead. Yes, this might require someone from CISCO to come to the site, so what?
This is one of the reasons why closed source manufacturers scare me. They can put whatever they want into the product and you're left to their mercy.
GJC
Of course acting professional doesn't mean you have to stand for this. If the employer will allow you to refuse, then refuse. Any company that faults you for that, doesn't deserve to get mentioned in your list of references anyway.
GJC
Not remotely possible for them to sue. The best they can say is "you didn't do your job when you trained this guy". Then again... if the guy doesn't speak good english or there is another language barrier, then how can you be expected to *force* them to understand what you're saying.
;)
:)
Also, it's very difficult to prove someone was trained "badly". How much the person picks up is entirely up to them. If the person is so daft and just doesn't "get it" in the time allotted, oh well... what's a guy to do??
Also, if you're training your replacement, your co-workers will likely being doing the same thing soon, so there's no worry about "sabotaging" them, since they'll be joining you shortly in the unemployment line.
GJC
This makes little sense... I had a petition:
c os _x_suite/
http://www.petitiononline.com/laafs/
Which was asking for Sun to open source the Lighthouse applications which were a fairly cool set of applications available for the NeXT and could be ported to Mac OS X or to Linux using GNUstep.
Sun then had this reaction:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/09/22/suns_ma
Whether this was a direct reaction to the petition and the email conversation I had with a number of execs at Sun, I'm not sure.
But it shocks me to see that they would be willing to open Java, their flagship product, but yet would be unwilling to open a set of applications which are of little consequence to them.
GJC
No, it doesn't. :)
There is no such thing in Copyright law which says this. Unless you have a line-by-line copy of a significant amount of code, you're chances at proving infringement are remote, at best. If you'll notice SCO has progressively backed down it's case again and again.
:)
:)
We've gone from "full blown copying of 1M+ lines" to "no copying, but those are our derived works" to "we claim these header files" to "Linux is a riff on UNIX". Oh, please.
Come on, Darl, you mean to tell me you think that someone can't write something *similar* to something else without infringing?
What about Free DOS and the myriad of other OSes out there. Hell, according to this logic, Windows would infringe. Why don't you go sue MS? Oh wait, that would be biting the hand that feeds you.
GJC
An oblique reference to the shuttle misinstallation of a gear which controls the tail control surface used for breaking.
;)
Well... at least you had the job 20+ years before anyone discovered you're mistake.
GJC
Gates and Microsoft will be left behind by the current paradigm shift.
This shift has very little to do with Open Source or Free Software, although they are convenient mediums for it. The shift is towards open standards. By making a piece of software Open Source/Free Software, you expose its protocols to the world.
This is what customers want. They don't want lock-in, they don't want lack of interoperability. They want their machines to play together without problems.
GJC
It's a reference to the "I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay" routine by the Monty Python guys. :)
Check this page:
http://www.holysmoke.org/wb/wb0198.htm
Near the end.
GJC
I drink all night and I work all day!! ... ;)
I wish I were a lady, just like my dear papa!!
GJC
changing my name to Grigori Kasamentov doesn't sound like a bad idea at this point. :/
GJC