How about you keep your opinion to yourself until you stop being a hypocrite about it.
You are currently at this very second resisting arrest. If you feel so strongly that fact should mean you must die, then you have to put your money where your mouth is and actually die before your viewpoint will even be considered. Anything less means your actions show you don't at all believe what you said, so why should we?
So are your actions going to follow your words and you kill yourself? Or are your actions going to be hypocritical and the exact opposite of your words, and you post a reply instead?
I've been using Meraki MDM for a bit over a year now for managing my own devices, and have been quite pleased so far.
Sadly about a year back Cisco acquired them so there have been some changes in pricing and scope, but the free standard version is still available even if slightly hidden (most 'try now' links go to the enterprise signup page) It now manages Cisco APs, Cisco switches, MDM, and a bit more random stuff.
Note that they now offer two versions, standard and enterprise. Feature wise they are pretty identical except for technical support. Standard is free for up to 50 devices, then device 51 and after will run you $1/device/month. I've no idea the pricing details on enterprise, other than the 30 day trial involves them sending you an access point that works with it. I assume even device #1 has a monthly cost.
- If you run Spiceworks, their latest major-version provides basic access to MDM for free through IBMs MaaS360. They have a free version that adamantly doesn't have near enough features, and a paid version that is $3/device/month. The paid version has all the features of IBMs branded version, but is a little cheaper per device.
- If you want free and DIY, check out the "iPhone Configuration Utility" (mac/win versions available from apple) that let you create your own policy files - but you need to get them onto each iPhone "manually". By manual this can be as easy as an email attachment or wifi-portal webpage download or something. For devices you purchase and allocate to staff this is usually fine, but BYOD can be a problem without incentives for the user to install the profile themselves.
I used this method at work since I only had two profiles available then. To get on the wifi network you needed to install our wifi profile, which grants access to the network and then enforces the network policy. They didn't HAVE to install this policy, but then no wifi access at all.
I have a second profile to setup Cisco VPN client settings for users with VPN access, but my profile is more akin to a.PCF config (shared secret and IP stuff users don't need to worry about) and nothing else, so it just saves some typing for them. Not much arm twisting needed here.
Strange, seeing as iPhone is one of the most manageable devices out there, second only to Blackberry and not by a very wide margin even then.
Not only can you push a wifi policy automatically for any BYOD iPhones that join your wifi to control network related policies, but managed (MDM) iPhones give you as much control over them as windows group policy does over windows desktops.
In fact the only one feature iPhone doesn't measure up on compared to Blackberry is app pushing over cellular. Since the discussion seems to be more about "letting them on the network" assuming wifi access isn't unreasonable, and removes that one limitation completely.
Has any progress what so ever been made with enterprise managing of android without any 3rd party solutions? As of the last android OS there was basically nothing to speak of, so I can't see them catching up these last 8ish years in just a few months.
Letting android on the network is about as secure as letting non-domain home windows systems on, so it is quite amusing you feel this is a better option!
It takes an absurd argument to counter an equally absurd argument.
One absurd argument is that configuring a web server to instruct a browser to download a bunch of image files (as linked in the HTML) is a crime if a human being did not grant you that permission directly, since permission via configuration settings clearly doesn't matter.
This argument has been used (successfully) in court before, and in the US is a crime.
So an equally absurd argument is that me making my web browser connect to their server and being fed data, despite my browsers configuration to go ahead and do that, what matters is nothing but my wishes. If I wish for that data to not be downloaded, then at that point the data was forced upon me, and should be equally criminal.
Within a logic gate chip, all gates have their ground and power lines wired together and out to two pins on the chip, while the inputs/outputs typically also end up at pins on the chip, with everything else being internal to the IC.
Scaling up a level you can wire together multiple gates similarly. A CPU is generally nothing but thousands to billions of these transistors wired together into gates that are wired together into "logical blocks" (think basic lego parts put together to form shapes, which you make a lot of, and then build your thing with the shapes) This is why even today CPUs generally have a "transistor count", the number of the most basic elements on the chip making those gates that make up logical blocks that end up actually doing things.
The first CPUs in fact were boards (and boards and boards) of nothing but transistors wired together this way, before we could put them on a tiny silicon package in a small enough form to be called a microchip.
The first chips (at least that I am aware of) that packaged standard gates together in an IC is the 7400 line of chips. A 7402 chip for example contains four separate NOR gates for example.
The Z80 was used in home computers like the TRS-80, the ZX Spectrum, the Osborne, and I think even some of the old Commodore line. It was also in the original Nintendo Gameboy and Gameboy Color, and a ton more systems. It's still used today although more for things we would think of as embedded devices. I have a SCSI card powered by one, for example.
Instead of a tiny IC measuring roughly an inch squared, when using 7400 chips the CPU is as large as you see in the picture on that page.
Just as it is rare to code in assembly these days, assemblers take higher level commands that consist of many assembly instructions and compiles those high level instructions down to blocks of assembly code (and then proceeds, hopefully, to optimize those blocks... but pretending optimization is disabled may give you a better idea visually)
Hope that explains some of it and didn't make the confusion worse;}
For what software? Certainly not any I use, nor the various versions of MS-DOS from the company in question I used back in the 80s and 90s.
Back from the 60s one heavily used convention was: [major-version] dot [minor-version] dot [revision]
The dots are separators not unlike those in an IP address, not decimal places (of which more then one of doesn't make much sense) Within the same major-version number the API would remain backwards compatible. New commands may be added in, but old existing commands should both still exist and still function identically. Within the same minor-version (rev changes) the API would remain identical and data/file formats would keep the same structure.
This would allow the operator to assume a revision update can be installed at will and not worry much about breaking compatibility for anything not listed in the change log. One could also assume any additional applications made to work with the upgrading app should still function without modification, at least if you follow the API docs and don't do anything too hacky.
For minor-version updates you assumed API using additions and apps should still work, but anything hacky by-passing the API due to limitations needs revisited and possibly edited. An example is one program that creates input to the program in question via documented API calls should be fine, but your second program that is run after output being generated that goes to parse internal data files you "shouldn't" be touching likely will break until updated to parse the new data file structure.
For major-version updates, all bets are off. Pretend it is a brand new app and all interaction with it by other system components may need redesigned or be obsoleted.
Of course version numbers are only conventions. Those conventions can be changed to mean something more fitting for your particular software. Or simplified to "Start at 1.0 and keep adding one" if you can predict not many updates being needed or for very simple one-off script type things. Dates have turned out to be quite convenient version numbers with the time making a good developer compile/commit identifier that already keeps revisions in the correct order.
The only real rule is "pick a convention and stay consistent for the life of that software, else the wrath of dragons upon your head be"
So how does this not make you a worthless freeloader?
It makes me not a worthless freeloader in exactly the same way as you using an ad network doesn't make you a script kiddie hacker trying to infect millions of peoples computers with malware viruses and keyloggers deserving of imprisonment.
But if you insist on going there, allow me to remind you that my actions of not watching an ad are perfectly legal (and explicitly stated so in law), while your actions of infecting millions of computers is explicitly a federal criminal offense...
As someone who has had meat digesting microbes in my intestines die, I can say that the pains of moving undigested matter through your system are quite different from salmonella or other types of food poisoning.
Perhaps if you swallow a bunch of metal coins it would hurt similarly to those eating meats, but one would hope that eating coins wouldn't be a common occurrence:P
Not to mention there is no projectile diarrhea or urge to vomit, and the pains are only over the intestines instead of both stomach and then later the intestines.
Eating meat also doesn't result in a fever, although I'm not sure if that happens to others after food poisoning or it's just me.
You are a criminal too, even if you have managed not to get caught yet. Thank you for permission to beat and kill you since you wouldn't be my victim.
2) It's not abuse, any more than making your kid eat his broccoli is abuse. Not liking specific food you could eat just fine something isn't grounds for special treatment.
In this one case maybe, but if they really do refuse to serve meals one medically needs to obtain nutrition, then this same policy - while "only" a moral issue to Sunde - is a sentence to slow death by starvation to those lacking the microbes to digest meat at all.
3) If you intentionally starve yourself the only person you're hurting is you.
And when the prison is intentionally starving you by action similar to serving you nothing but water to eat, then the only person hurting others is the prison itself.
But when I go to the theater I only steal movie reels to take home.
Every time I download a movie, I feel extra horrible inside knowing the MPAA still has their original copy and thus are not harmed any, so had to change tactics:P
There is a saying I picked up somewhere that feels especially apt "There are three things you never discuss with coworkers: Politics, Religion, and The Great Pumpkin"
I'm glad we aren't all anonymous psychopaths only out looking for peoples buttons to push needlessly.
My favorite ones are the Creationists against GMO foods due to the risk of an unknown modification being introduced to the environment running amok and killing all the plants, us, or both. All while arguing evolution doesn't exist and doesn't happen!
The fact such people exists always makes me laugh. The fact some of those people are in positions of power however makes me cry for humanity.
No, because renaming it has the same effects on existing systems. The installed package "ownCloud" is no longer there (by that name) so future usage of apt-get can still break.
I'm less familiar with Ubuntu specifically but have extensive Debian experience, so can't comment on the Ubuntu policy, but I suspect Ubuntu views this more as removing a package is them breaking package management on existing systems, vs leaving it as is would still be breaking the system due to the vulnerabilities but not Ubuntu's fault (which I still find arguable, but again it's also just my guess)
Debian stable will also out right refuse to break apt by removing a package, however Debian has a large security patch repo plus a huge backports repo and community - which typically spends their own time back porting patches for newer app versions from the original developers back to older versions the devs stopped patching.
Many years ago at least Ubuntu still did not have the infrastructure for this nor dedicated any man power to the task. Sounds like that is still at least partially the case there.
This is also why ownCloud distributes their stuff in their own repo, which is the best way to go about it (so props to ownCloud there) That way it is completely up to them how "stable" they want their software to be viewed. They can either force people to upgrade to a new major version, breaking all existing installs until configs can be updated - or they can try to be stable and backport patches - or anything in between.
It's just mind boggling some dip decided that despite the fact ownCloud has their own maintained packages and even a repo for them, that it would at all be necessary to claim "now i'm the package maintainer!" and put it in Ubuntus repo...
Was this Ubuntus direct doing? In Debian only the core system is packaged by their own team. 3rd party stuff however anyone can step up and decide to be the package maintainer, compiling from src to debian standards and releasing debs. But it's usually easier to see who to point the finger at in that case.
An awful lot of work is still done in Microsoft Word and Microsoft Excel. No need to embed a 5 GB video just because you have the space.
*noob voice enable*
Well no, I take a screenshot of the video, which is then embedded unscalable in an excel file, which I paste into a word document, which I then send in a mime encoded email to the entire company directory. I mean, this is the internet after all, it's not like some form of file transfer protocol exists or anything!
1) Many of my things I either desire to use for many years to come (a video download I paid for), or am required to keep to cover my ass (taxes, logs, most data at work due to policies, etc)
2a) The cost of more storage space is almost always less than the cost of the time to clean up files that could be deleted. In the context of work this does depend heavily on exactly who made the data and their rate of pay / work load - but I've noted the higher up execs and managers tend to be the worst hoarders as well as of course the highest rates of pay. Most of the lower techs on the shop floor don't even have access above read-only to the network storage here, though that is far from universal everywhere.
2b) Yes there are other people whos time is not as expensive, but no one other than the datas owner/creator can know 100% what needs to stay vs what can go (and sometimes even the owner/creator chooses wrong.)
3) After deleting/archiving data, the chances of you needing it in the future are typically higher to much higher than the chances you are really done with it.
4) For the small number of times you really are done with it (like, totally and fur sure), the amount of data that gets deleted is generally such a small percentage of the whole that, while still a good thing to do, doesn't really help much with the problem at hand - freeing up a lot of space for future needs.
I never run out of disk space.
You either have too much free storage space, not enough data, or possibly both:P
I have a feeling the person you are arguing with spends his days 1) eating lead with the word "beef" chiseled on it, 2) drives his car inside the shopping mall and convenience stores to get to the indoor ATMs, and 3) likes to troll handicap people
Since the first action item somehow hasn't killed him yet, that just gives more weight to the rest as an indicator of just how awful of a person it is;P
The legal ( and its sound reasoning ) will be sure the first amendment provides you can say pretty much anything you want but it says nothing about you being able to do it in anonymity.
Says Mister DarkOx, if that is your real name...
Since you are out right admitting you are doing nothing but illegal crimes (perfectly sound reasoning once I saw your not-name in your post after all) - you'll need to do much much better to convince me and all of us why we should take the opinions of a criminal to be worth more than a grain of digital salt.
It works for Cafe Courier, and they have been doing just that (and making a profit, including off me) since the late 90s.
For the two years Kroger had their peachtree* delivery service, I used the crap out of that! Groceries and pharmaceuticals to your door, and for some even further and right into your fridge. (Thou I mainly saw that last bit only for older and disabled people. I am just lazy and not wanting to go to the store)
These days I have to hope I get a regular pizza delivery guy that I can uber-overpay for him to stop and get me something extra, and even then if it isn't on or damn close to his normal route I don't even ask. Plus it sucks dropping an extra $20 just for two fast-food milkshakes that would be like $6 otherwise:/
But hey, sometimes it can be worth it:P
You still have a point about the drones with claw-machine game arms... Once/if those happen, I say let the two options battle it out on price and time! Should be a good show even if a win.
I don't see why this is such a huge deal in the US. Why not both allow so-called "Fast Lanes" and also mandate a high minimum for the "Not-so-fast Lanes" which will prevent ISPs from serving subpar rates to customers?
Sounds great in theory, but in the US the term "broadband" is defined such that the minimum requirement is 128kbps (the speed of a fully utilized BRI line - the original high speed connection)
Since I don't see them successfully raising that first the past hundred or so attempts, the fact they are moving forward on any neutrality issues is pretty much a certainty your plan will never happen here.
In fact given the lack of evidence in either direction, I would naturally assume they will end up changing that min limit to 64k if anything... we suck just that bad:/
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How about you keep your opinion to yourself until you stop being a hypocrite about it.
You are currently at this very second resisting arrest. If you feel so strongly that fact should mean you must die, then you have to put your money where your mouth is and actually die before your viewpoint will even be considered. Anything less means your actions show you don't at all believe what you said, so why should we?
So are your actions going to follow your words and you kill yourself?
Or are your actions going to be hypocritical and the exact opposite of your words, and you post a reply instead?
I've been using Meraki MDM for a bit over a year now for managing my own devices, and have been quite pleased so far.
Sadly about a year back Cisco acquired them so there have been some changes in pricing and scope, but the free standard version is still available even if slightly hidden (most 'try now' links go to the enterprise signup page)
It now manages Cisco APs, Cisco switches, MDM, and a bit more random stuff.
Their main page is:
https://meraki.cisco.com/
MDM specific info is at:
https://meraki.cisco.com/solut...
Standard version signup is at:
https://meraki.cisco.com/form/...
Note that they now offer two versions, standard and enterprise. Feature wise they are pretty identical except for technical support.
Standard is free for up to 50 devices, then device 51 and after will run you $1/device/month.
I've no idea the pricing details on enterprise, other than the 30 day trial involves them sending you an access point that works with it. I assume even device #1 has a monthly cost.
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If you run Spiceworks, their latest major-version provides basic access to MDM for free through IBMs MaaS360.
They have a free version that adamantly doesn't have near enough features, and a paid version that is $3/device/month.
The paid version has all the features of IBMs branded version, but is a little cheaper per device.
http://www.spiceworks.com/free...
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If you want free and DIY, check out the "iPhone Configuration Utility" (mac/win versions available from apple) that let you create your own policy files - but you need to get them onto each iPhone "manually".
By manual this can be as easy as an email attachment or wifi-portal webpage download or something.
For devices you purchase and allocate to staff this is usually fine, but BYOD can be a problem without incentives for the user to install the profile themselves.
I used this method at work since I only had two profiles available then.
To get on the wifi network you needed to install our wifi profile, which grants access to the network and then enforces the network policy.
They didn't HAVE to install this policy, but then no wifi access at all.
I have a second profile to setup Cisco VPN client settings for users with VPN access, but my profile is more akin to a .PCF config (shared secret and IP stuff users don't need to worry about) and nothing else, so it just saves some typing for them. Not much arm twisting needed here.
http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/...
(Download links at the bottom of this wiki, or just use Google)
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Sadly all other MDM platforms I evaluated over a year ago either no longer exist or in the 'rather expensive' category.
The list I used at the time for the higher end providers was
http://www.enterpriseios.com/w...
I found 2-3 good gems in that list at the time (Meraki and MaaS360/Spiceworks being the best priced then)
Might still be worth a look for you.
Like hell I'd allow an iPhone on my network
Strange, seeing as iPhone is one of the most manageable devices out there, second only to Blackberry and not by a very wide margin even then.
Not only can you push a wifi policy automatically for any BYOD iPhones that join your wifi to control network related policies, but managed (MDM) iPhones give you as much control over them as windows group policy does over windows desktops.
In fact the only one feature iPhone doesn't measure up on compared to Blackberry is app pushing over cellular. Since the discussion seems to be more about "letting them on the network" assuming wifi access isn't unreasonable, and removes that one limitation completely.
Has any progress what so ever been made with enterprise managing of android without any 3rd party solutions? As of the last android OS there was basically nothing to speak of, so I can't see them catching up these last 8ish years in just a few months.
Letting android on the network is about as secure as letting non-domain home windows systems on, so it is quite amusing you feel this is a better option!
That's an absurd argument.
It takes an absurd argument to counter an equally absurd argument.
One absurd argument is that configuring a web server to instruct a browser to download a bunch of image files (as linked in the HTML) is a crime if a human being did not grant you that permission directly, since permission via configuration settings clearly doesn't matter.
This argument has been used (successfully) in court before, and in the US is a crime.
So an equally absurd argument is that me making my web browser connect to their server and being fed data, despite my browsers configuration to go ahead and do that, what matters is nothing but my wishes. If I wish for that data to not be downloaded, then at that point the data was forced upon me, and should be equally criminal.
You don't get it both ways.
OK, so I don't know much about logic gates and stuff but I still can't understand how can you create a video game console without a CPU.
A CPU is nothing but a ton of logic gates wired mostly to each other inside of a tiny package, and logic gates are made from multiple transistors.
Here is a page showing how each type of logic gate is made from transistors:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.g...
Within a logic gate chip, all gates have their ground and power lines wired together and out to two pins on the chip, while the inputs/outputs typically also end up at pins on the chip, with everything else being internal to the IC.
Scaling up a level you can wire together multiple gates similarly.
A CPU is generally nothing but thousands to billions of these transistors wired together into gates that are wired together into "logical blocks" (think basic lego parts put together to form shapes, which you make a lot of, and then build your thing with the shapes)
This is why even today CPUs generally have a "transistor count", the number of the most basic elements on the chip making those gates that make up logical blocks that end up actually doing things.
The first CPUs in fact were boards (and boards and boards) of nothing but transistors wired together this way, before we could put them on a tiny silicon package in a small enough form to be called a microchip.
The first chips (at least that I am aware of) that packaged standard gates together in an IC is the 7400 line of chips. A 7402 chip for example contains four separate NOR gates for example.
Here is a Z80 CPU built using nothing but these 7400 gate chips:
http://cpuville.com/Z80.htm
The Z80 was used in home computers like the TRS-80, the ZX Spectrum, the Osborne, and I think even some of the old Commodore line. It was also in the original Nintendo Gameboy and Gameboy Color, and a ton more systems.
It's still used today although more for things we would think of as embedded devices. I have a SCSI card powered by one, for example.
Instead of a tiny IC measuring roughly an inch squared, when using 7400 chips the CPU is as large as you see in the picture on that page.
Just as it is rare to code in assembly these days, assemblers take higher level commands that consist of many assembly instructions and compiles those high level instructions down to blocks of assembly code (and then proceeds, hopefully, to optimize those blocks... but pretending optimization is disabled may give you a better idea visually)
Hope that explains some of it and didn't make the confusion worse ;}
Oh, I get it - he made an OS to talk to DOG. I talk to mine all the time.
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For what software? Certainly not any I use, nor the various versions of MS-DOS from the company in question I used back in the 80s and 90s.
Back from the 60s one heavily used convention was: [major-version] dot [minor-version] dot [revision]
The dots are separators not unlike those in an IP address, not decimal places (of which more then one of doesn't make much sense)
Within the same major-version number the API would remain backwards compatible. New commands may be added in, but old existing commands should both still exist and still function identically.
Within the same minor-version (rev changes) the API would remain identical and data/file formats would keep the same structure.
This would allow the operator to assume a revision update can be installed at will and not worry much about breaking compatibility for anything not listed in the change log.
One could also assume any additional applications made to work with the upgrading app should still function without modification, at least if you follow the API docs and don't do anything too hacky.
For minor-version updates you assumed API using additions and apps should still work, but anything hacky by-passing the API due to limitations needs revisited and possibly edited.
An example is one program that creates input to the program in question via documented API calls should be fine, but your second program that is run after output being generated that goes to parse internal data files you "shouldn't" be touching likely will break until updated to parse the new data file structure.
For major-version updates, all bets are off. Pretend it is a brand new app and all interaction with it by other system components may need redesigned or be obsoleted.
Of course version numbers are only conventions. Those conventions can be changed to mean something more fitting for your particular software.
Or simplified to "Start at 1.0 and keep adding one" if you can predict not many updates being needed or for very simple one-off script type things.
Dates have turned out to be quite convenient version numbers with the time making a good developer compile/commit identifier that already keeps revisions in the correct order.
The only real rule is "pick a convention and stay consistent for the life of that software, else the wrath of dragons upon your head be"
So how does this not make you a worthless freeloader?
It makes me not a worthless freeloader in exactly the same way as you using an ad network doesn't make you a script kiddie hacker trying to infect millions of peoples computers with malware viruses and keyloggers deserving of imprisonment.
But if you insist on going there, allow me to remind you that my actions of not watching an ad are perfectly legal (and explicitly stated so in law), while your actions of infecting millions of computers is explicitly a federal criminal offense...
That implies we need to use evil compilers to program the Kill-O-Bots.
Man, I somehow always suspected Perl would be the death of us all, but I didn't quite have this in mind!
You woke up and discovered you had installed Windows 2000?
Quite the scary illness you've got there. I'd rather find my horse's cut head.
I don't think they added the horse head option to the installer until Windows XP...
As someone who has had meat digesting microbes in my intestines die, I can say that the pains of moving undigested matter through your system are quite different from salmonella or other types of food poisoning.
Perhaps if you swallow a bunch of metal coins it would hurt similarly to those eating meats, but one would hope that eating coins wouldn't be a common occurrence :P
Not to mention there is no projectile diarrhea or urge to vomit, and the pains are only over the intestines instead of both stomach and then later the intestines.
Eating meat also doesn't result in a fever, although I'm not sure if that happens to others after food poisoning or it's just me.
1) He's not a victim. He's a convicted criminal.
You are a criminal too, even if you have managed not to get caught yet.
Thank you for permission to beat and kill you since you wouldn't be my victim.
2) It's not abuse, any more than making your kid eat his broccoli is abuse. Not liking specific food you could eat just fine something isn't grounds for special treatment.
In this one case maybe, but if they really do refuse to serve meals one medically needs to obtain nutrition, then this same policy - while "only" a moral issue to Sunde - is a sentence to slow death by starvation to those lacking the microbes to digest meat at all.
3) If you intentionally starve yourself the only person you're hurting is you.
And when the prison is intentionally starving you by action similar to serving you nothing but water to eat, then the only person hurting others is the prison itself.
Instead of having an automated service they could do the work necessary to validate copyright claims.
You could always go volenteer 40 hours a week for free for them, and bring along 10000 of your friends willing to work for free too.
No? I guess it's only OK for you to want paid but not OK for anyone else to want the same?
Copyright infringement is not theft.
But when I go to the theater I only steal movie reels to take home.
Every time I download a movie, I feel extra horrible inside knowing the MPAA still has their original copy and thus are not harmed any, so had to change tactics :P
Time and again, history has shown a healthy middle class is the best road to alleviate poverty on a grand scale.
I thought history has shown that killing all the poor people is the best road to alleviate poverty on a grand scale :P
There is a saying I picked up somewhere that feels especially apt
"There are three things you never discuss with coworkers: Politics, Religion, and The Great Pumpkin"
I'm glad we aren't all anonymous psychopaths only out looking for peoples buttons to push needlessly.
32 bit cannot utilize more than 4GB ram
This is incorrect, x86 can address up to 64GB of memory with PAE
But I have 65GB of memory, you insensitive clod!
My favorite ones are the Creationists against GMO foods due to the risk of an unknown modification being introduced to the environment running amok and killing all the plants, us, or both. All while arguing evolution doesn't exist and doesn't happen!
The fact such people exists always makes me laugh.
The fact some of those people are in positions of power however makes me cry for humanity.
No, because renaming it has the same effects on existing systems. The installed package "ownCloud" is no longer there (by that name) so future usage of apt-get can still break.
I'm less familiar with Ubuntu specifically but have extensive Debian experience, so can't comment on the Ubuntu policy, but I suspect Ubuntu views this more as removing a package is them breaking package management on existing systems, vs leaving it as is would still be breaking the system due to the vulnerabilities but not Ubuntu's fault (which I still find arguable, but again it's also just my guess)
Debian stable will also out right refuse to break apt by removing a package, however Debian has a large security patch repo plus a huge backports repo and community - which typically spends their own time back porting patches for newer app versions from the original developers back to older versions the devs stopped patching.
Many years ago at least Ubuntu still did not have the infrastructure for this nor dedicated any man power to the task. Sounds like that is still at least partially the case there.
This is also why ownCloud distributes their stuff in their own repo, which is the best way to go about it (so props to ownCloud there)
That way it is completely up to them how "stable" they want their software to be viewed.
They can either force people to upgrade to a new major version, breaking all existing installs until configs can be updated - or they can try to be stable and backport patches - or anything in between.
It's just mind boggling some dip decided that despite the fact ownCloud has their own maintained packages and even a repo for them, that it would at all be necessary to claim "now i'm the package maintainer!" and put it in Ubuntus repo...
Was this Ubuntus direct doing?
In Debian only the core system is packaged by their own team. 3rd party stuff however anyone can step up and decide to be the package maintainer, compiling from src to debian standards and releasing debs. But it's usually easier to see who to point the finger at in that case.
An awful lot of work is still done in Microsoft Word and Microsoft Excel. No need to embed a 5 GB video just because you have the space.
*noob voice enable*
Well no, I take a screenshot of the video, which is then embedded unscalable in an excel file, which I paste into a word document, which I then send in a mime encoded email to the entire company directory.
I mean, this is the internet after all, it's not like some form of file transfer protocol exists or anything!
I delete things when I'm done using them
1) Many of my things I either desire to use for many years to come (a video download I paid for), or am required to keep to cover my ass (taxes, logs, most data at work due to policies, etc)
2a) The cost of more storage space is almost always less than the cost of the time to clean up files that could be deleted. In the context of work this does depend heavily on exactly who made the data and their rate of pay / work load - but I've noted the higher up execs and managers tend to be the worst hoarders as well as of course the highest rates of pay. Most of the lower techs on the shop floor don't even have access above read-only to the network storage here, though that is far from universal everywhere.
2b) Yes there are other people whos time is not as expensive, but no one other than the datas owner/creator can know 100% what needs to stay vs what can go (and sometimes even the owner/creator chooses wrong.)
3) After deleting/archiving data, the chances of you needing it in the future are typically higher to much higher than the chances you are really done with it.
4) For the small number of times you really are done with it (like, totally and fur sure), the amount of data that gets deleted is generally such a small percentage of the whole that, while still a good thing to do, doesn't really help much with the problem at hand - freeing up a lot of space for future needs.
I never run out of disk space.
You either have too much free storage space, not enough data, or possibly both :P
I have a feeling the person you are arguing with spends his days
1) eating lead with the word "beef" chiseled on it,
2) drives his car inside the shopping mall and convenience stores to get to the indoor ATMs, and
3) likes to troll handicap people
Since the first action item somehow hasn't killed him yet, that just gives more weight to the rest as an indicator of just how awful of a person it is ;P
The legal ( and its sound reasoning ) will be sure the first amendment provides you can say pretty much anything you want but it says nothing about you being able to do it in anonymity.
Says Mister DarkOx, if that is your real name...
Since you are out right admitting you are doing nothing but illegal crimes (perfectly sound reasoning once I saw your not-name in your post after all) - you'll need to do much much better to convince me and all of us why we should take the opinions of a criminal to be worth more than a grain of digital salt.
But it was a nice try, pedo :P
It works for Cafe Courier, and they have been doing just that (and making a profit, including off me) since the late 90s.
For the two years Kroger had their peachtree* delivery service, I used the crap out of that! Groceries and pharmaceuticals to your door, and for some even further and right into your fridge.
(Thou I mainly saw that last bit only for older and disabled people. I am just lazy and not wanting to go to the store)
These days I have to hope I get a regular pizza delivery guy that I can uber-overpay for him to stop and get me something extra, and even then if it isn't on or damn close to his normal route I don't even ask. :/
Plus it sucks dropping an extra $20 just for two fast-food milkshakes that would be like $6 otherwise
But hey, sometimes it can be worth it :P
You still have a point about the drones with claw-machine game arms... Once/if those happen, I say let the two options battle it out on price and time! Should be a good show even if a win.
I don't see why this is such a huge deal in the US. Why not both allow so-called "Fast Lanes" and also mandate a high minimum for the "Not-so-fast Lanes" which will prevent ISPs from serving subpar rates to customers?
Sounds great in theory, but in the US the term "broadband" is defined such that the minimum requirement is 128kbps (the speed of a fully utilized BRI line - the original high speed connection)
Since I don't see them successfully raising that first the past hundred or so attempts, the fact they are moving forward on any neutrality issues is pretty much a certainty your plan will never happen here.
In fact given the lack of evidence in either direction, I would naturally assume they will end up changing that min limit to 64k if anything... we suck just that bad :/