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MPAA Bans Google Glass In Theaters

An anonymous reader writes: The Motion Picture Association of America, along with the National Association of Theater Owners, have banned Google Glass and similar devices from being in movie theaters. They said, "As part of our continued efforts to ensure movies are not recorded in theaters, however, we maintain a zero-tolerance policy toward using any recording device while movies are being shown. As has been our long-standing policy, all phones must be silenced and other recording devices, including wearable devices, must be turned off and put away at show time. Individuals who fail or refuse to put the recording devices away may be asked to leave." This is a change from the MPAA's stance earlier this year that Glass was "no threat" in terms of copyright infringement. A spokesman said the ban is geared toward combating more sophisticated wearables in the future.

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  1. how is this news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how is this news? recording devices have always been prohibited.

    1. Re:how is this news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is news because it is about "Google Glass." Not Go-Pro cuz that is cool. Google Glass, on the other hand, is nerdy. If you want to attack something stay away from the hip and trendy since Go-Pro is somehow different.

    2. Re:how is this news by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Other recording devices have not had perscription lenses.
      "I am sorry but you have to take off your glasses to see the movie."
      "If I take off my glasses, I can not SEE the movie!"

      Yet another reason to watch movies at home.

    3. Re:how is this news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      how is this news? recording devices have always been prohibited.

      Because it was on DSLR a couple days ago. Every third story they post ends up here 2-3 days later.

    4. Re:how is this news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Perhaps they shouldn't have forked out for a pair of glasses they knew were banned from movie theaters?

      And if you can afford google glass, you can spare set of prescription glasses without the built in recording device.

      And I'm happy for the glassholes to be watching movies at home, easier for them to keep up on their social media from there as well.

    5. Re:how is this news by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You didn't keep your regular glasses when you received your Google glass?

      Maybe you should purchase a pair for a backup anyway?

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    6. Re:how is this news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cry me another one, because you're full of it.

    7. Re:how is this news by sabri · · Score: 1

      Yet another reason to watch movies at home.

      I haven't been in a movie theater in at least 4 years and can't say I miss them. Overpriced tickets, grossly overpriced undercooked popcorn, nasty people who call/text/fax/mail halfway through the movie and idiots bringing kids.

      I'll wait until it's either on Netflix, Amazon instant, or The Pirate Bay.

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    8. Re:how is this news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't fix stupid.

      And this dumbass is so good at making up excuses that he must be in MENSA!

    9. Re:how is this news by houstonbofh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Perhaps they shouldn't have forked out for a pair of glasses they knew were banned from movie theaters?

      Because I base all of my life choices based on what is (currently) acceptable in movie theaters... (smh)

    10. Re:how is this news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      let's ban people too! , movies are being recorded by their brains

    11. Re:how is this news by Jethro · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm pretty sure they'd ask you to remove your GoPro-equipped helmet, too.

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    12. Re:how is this news by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Because Go-Pro is also designed to be small and hidden and marketed to be worn everywhere.

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    13. Re:how is this news by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but that would not be instant clickbait news.

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    14. Re:how is this news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Other recording devices have not had perscription lenses. "I am sorry but you have to take off your glasses to see the movie." "If I take off my glasses, I can not SEE the movie!" Yet another reason to watch movies at home.

      I have a brilliant idea! Somebody should invent corrective lenses that don't require electronics, recording devices, etc.

    15. Re:how is this news by neoritter · · Score: 1

      Any intelligent person would have two sets of glasses so that if one breaks or otherwise can't be used; there is a back up. And before you go and say, "well what if they don't have enough money to buy two pairs?" If they can afford google glasses they sure as hell can afford some cheapo hour eyes glasses.

    16. Re:how is this news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But theaters still want the glassholes money all the same. They just want them to forward the money and stay home.

    17. Re:how is this news by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      Afford a second pair of glasses, yes. Carry a second pair with you at all times just in case some idiotic movie cartel decides that they don't like the pair you're wearing, no. With this rule, for Glass users, going to the movie theater becomes a bit like going to the airport. You have to think about it ahead of time, to make sure you aren't carrying prohibited items, and to make sure you have all the extra items you're going to need to have with you. Gone are the days when those folks can walk by the movie theater and think, "Oh, that sounds like a cool movie. I think I'll watch it now." Going to the movies becomes a production, which means Glass users will be much less likely to go to the theater in the future.

      Then again, most Glass users probably gave up on movie theaters long ago. It seems to mostly be a place that teenagers hang out, plus a place for people to take their kids, and anyone who can afford Glass probably is not a teenager, and probably does not have kids, statistically speaking. :-D

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    18. Re:how is this news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Perhaps they shouldn't have forked out for a pair of glasses they knew were banned from movie theaters?"

      Well, considering they were JUST NOW banned, Perhaps they should have hopped into their Time Machine and seen this would happen.

    19. Re:how is this news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was born without tear ducts, you insensitive clod!

    20. Re:how is this news by Jethro · · Score: 1

      Oh it was obviously clickbait. They're not even actually banning Google Glass (any more than they're banning cellphones) - they just want it turned off.

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    21. Re:how is this news by tfranzese · · Score: 1

      I'm amazed anyone would want the stupid thing affixed to their frames at all times.

    22. Re:how is this news by gorehog · · Score: 1

      Undercooked...popcorn...?

    23. Re:how is this news by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      "Perhaps they shouldn't have forked out for a pair of glasses they knew were banned from movie theaters?"

      Well, considering they were JUST NOW banned, Perhaps they should have hopped into their Time Machine and seen this would happen.

      Actually, the MPAA inconveniencing their customers is fairly predictable by this point.

    24. Re:how is this news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, because we wouldn't want the helmet wearers trying to lick any windows they see on the screen.

    25. Re:how is this news by John.Banister · · Score: 1

      I did some looking around about this. Movie theaters generally pop the popcorn in hot coconut oil that's been flavored like butter and colored yellow with carotene. Then, according to what I read in the comments here it often gets stored for a day or so, and then reheated just before being sold, with seasoned (eg Flavocol) salt added. So, if you turn up early to avoid standing in line, the popcorn you buy may not yet have gotten up to a temperature where the day old butter flavored coconut oil comes across as tasty.

    26. Re:how is this news by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      How do you enforce that without a ban? Anyone can stick a bit of tape over the LED.

    27. Re:how is this news by bloodhawk · · Score: 1

      Glassholes are unwelcome visitors in many establishments, if someone is dependent on prescription glasses to the point where they must have them then they are morons for relying completely on a device they may be asked to remove.

    28. Re:how is this news by anyGould · · Score: 2

      Perhaps they shouldn't have forked out for a pair of glasses they knew were banned from movie theaters?

      And then we can ban service dogs from restaurants, because blind people shouldn't have got a dog they knew were banned from restaurants.

      Really - do people even bother recording movies at the theatre anymore? And what are they going to do when hearing aids eventually get Bluetooth or some other method of recording?

    29. Re:how is this news by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Because I base all of my life choices based on what is (currently) acceptable in movie theaters... (smh)

      But they also get banned in bars, parties, etc... Pretty much any place where people don't like it when someone has a camera at them all the time.

    30. Re:how is this news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Small? Hidden?? Seriously? Have you seen Google Glass? They are FUGLY, and it's extremely obvious that you are wearing one.

      Don't be a dumbass. You'll get called on it.

      And whoever uprated that post should be banned.

    31. Re:how is this news by neoritter · · Score: 1

      For women, or rather women who carry purses, it's an easy thing to carry around two pairs of glasses. For guys, I see your point; but it's not so absolutely horrible. I, generally, keep my second pair in my car. This is so that if my normal pair breaks, is damaged, lost, etc. I can still drive home. Granted, there's a risk with that, car is stole, etc, etc. And there are some edge cases, like if you're in someone else's car. But at this point, you're using a very specific situation. You're out and about, without your car, and you decide to go see a movie. A movie that is set to show at a time that you are unable to go back home(or where ever) and get your back up pair of glasses before going to see the movie.

      IDK, at that point if you really cared about it that much, the best option would be to get contacts and have non-prescription Google glasses.

  2. Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...I'd like to cordially invite the MPAA to go fuck itself.

    1. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would like to agree. Who is watching bootleg movies that were recorded by someone sitting audience at the theater? The audio is going to suck, the video is going to suck, why would anyone bother watching such a thing? If someone, against all odds, is watching handheld (or glasses-worn?) recording of movie then do you really think you are losing any money at that point? Just because someone watches a bootleg doesn't mean they would have spent the money to go the theater if the bootleg wasn't available to them. It most likely means they can't afford to go to the theater to watch the movie.

    2. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Fuck you for conflating the terms "theft" and "copyright infringement". Fuck you indeed.

    3. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Zalbik · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How dare they try to protect themselves from theft...

      Copyright infringement is not theft.

      Stop referring to it as such.

      Or the terrorists win.

    4. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, but MPAA, RIAA and all the other justice leagues have highly scientifically come to the conclusion that a movie/song/whatever is pirated aka stolen everytime someone does not pay to watch/listen/feel it even if they do not want to see it, and anytime someone watches it even from some kind of media.

      You are supposed to pay everytime you experience anything and if you don't even want to watch/listen/feel it, you are a filthy thief. If they could, they would have you pay a monthly fee for having ears, eyes, touch, smell and any other senses they can come up with and even for existing, since you are just copying what they have shown in movies and talked about in songs.

      So there, i set you straight, didn't i?

    5. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, hush. The difference is inconsequential at best. The point is that he's leaving the theater with something he can't legally take.

    6. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by mythosaz · · Score: 1

      Let's be honest. Go to the front page of TPB, click on movies, sort by most seeders or most leechers, and while most of the most active movies are DVD/BluRay/HDRIP, there's almost always cams of recent releases.

      Some films, comedies, romcoms especially, can be perfectly watchable in cam version -- especially if you're just going to play Clash of Clans on your phone while you walisten to it anyway. Additionally, some people don't want to wait, and on a 21" computer monitor in a bedroom, lots of low-resolution movies become watchable.

      There's demand for cams of films.

    7. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Immerman · · Score: 1

      In what way is a shaky-cam video with bad sound superior to a low-res version of the film-rip that came out weeks before the grand opening?

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    8. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Anonymous+CowWord · · Score: 1

      Great, so you do admit that it is still wrong since copyright infringement is illegal, right? Stop being an idiot, namecalling as anonymous, and finally stop trying to defend something illegal on technical terms and defend it on merit.

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    9. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Stop being an asshole and pretending like its any better.

    10. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, you've been told it's not theft, but your basic premise of "I don't want you doing X on private property" still stands as legitimate (doubly so when the X isn't something like "being of X religion"). If theatres and the MPAA don't want google glass in their cinemas, they are OK to do so, and I'm OK not to go there.

      However, frankly, does it really surprise anyone that the MPAA/theatre would rather you not bring recording devices into the theatre, even if they're not very good recording devices?

    11. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, first of all it's not their private property.
      The movie theaters are owned by other people.
      This is like some chinese toy company telling you google glass is banned at mcdonalds.
      Because happy meal toys.
      Second of all, yes fuck them. I do so by not going to the movies, and instead pirating everything.

    12. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Lilith's+Heart-shape · · Score: 2

      Copyright is a monopoly. It just happens to be a monopoly defined by the Constitution, and protected by legislation bought and paid for by Disney. It's a monopoly that, if limited to a reasonable amount of time, enriches our culture. If that monopoly is permitted to go on too long, it harms our culture instead -- though I admit it's hard to argue that putting Mickey Mouse in the public domain would improve American culture.

      While I don't mind being able to profit from sales of my books for the rest of my life, my creations drew upon the culture around me. It's only fair that my work should eventually join the culture as part of the public domain after twenty years or so.

    13. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by mythosaz · · Score: 1

      I'm not suggesting it is.

      I'm saying that sometimes the best pirate version available of a film is a cam, and sometimes that's good enough -- at least for some number of people.

    14. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by itzly · · Score: 1

      It doesn't matter what's better. Just use the proper word. It makes arguments much clearer when we use the correct words.

    15. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1

      I'm not the AC, but I think you're still confusing two things. Copyright infringement is illegal, but I'd argue that there are cases where it's not wrong/immoral. Legality and morality have some intersection, but the one isn't equivalent to the other.

      I'm not going to defend recording a movie in the theater, of course. There was real effort, time, money, etc put into creating a new contribution to our society, and we need to reward the creators so that more movies/music/inventions/whatever get made. I'd argue that anything beyond a sufficient incentive to encourage the creation of new things isn't necessary, though. Copyright terms currently exist to maximize profit for the creators, when they should be optimized to maximize the benefits to society by encouraging a thriving public domain.

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    16. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      There is nothing to protect themselves from here. They are just being jerks for no good reason.

      Also, this is not "private property" we're talking about here but a "public accommodation". Getting to do business with the public means that there are any number of compromises you have to make with your "property rights".

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    17. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's pretty clear who's the asshole here. The one who deliberately uses wrong and inappropriate terms in order to mislead the public.

    18. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 1

      Well, it's about as critical as living under a government with whom you disagree. Sure, you could leave the country and live in the rainforests of Papua New Guinea for the rest of your life, so you have no right to complain about your government ...

    19. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would like to agree. Who is watching bootleg movies that were recorded by someone sitting audience at the theater? The audio is going to suck, the video is going to suck, why would anyone bother watching such a thing?

      For good video, all I need is a camera with higher resolution than the movie. I can then cropt the movie correctly, and adjust contrast levels so it looks good. As for audio - one would have to record on a silent day with as few other people as possible. During some popular sports match, perhaps.

      Now, an *unedited* recording done with a phone or consumer camera will be shit - of course. Nothing is like a live recording of a movie, where you see the heads that were in front of the bootlegger. . .

    20. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 2

      Yeah, fuck them! How dare they try to protect themselves from theft on PRIVATE property that no one is REQUIRED to go to. Fuck them indeed.

      It is not "theft". Whatever you may think of copyright infringement, IT IS NOT THEFT. It is a legally completely distinct area of law.

      When you steal, you deprive someone of the use of the stolen item. When you copy, you aren't depriving anyone of use of the item.

      That may seem like an ethically immaterial difference to you, but I assure you the difference is actually quite enormous.

    21. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      There is also confusion regarding the whole "copyright is illegal" thing. Copyright violations can be a crime or they can be a tort. In the general vernacular, "being against the law" only applies to things that are criminal.

      Things that give other people standing to sue you are not "illegal" in the vernacular use of that term.

      Not sure how actual lawyers would split that particular hair.

      Furthermore, the line between crime and non-crime is fluid. That is that it changes over time. It's also notable that the existence of that line by itself is enough to distinguish imaginary property from real property.

      Real property interests don't expire.

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    22. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by dissy · · Score: 1

      Copyright infringement is not theft.

      But when I go to the theater I only steal movie reels to take home.

      Every time I download a movie, I feel extra horrible inside knowing the MPAA still has their original copy and thus are not harmed any, so had to change tactics :P

    23. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by BasilBrush · · Score: 0

      Damn you for conflating the the terms "fuck" and "damn you".

    24. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Zynder · · Score: 1

      Are we arguing or debating? I wish people would use the correct words, lol.

    25. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      The only reason cam copies exist is for those who just cannot wait a little longer to see the film in decent quality.

    26. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Insanity+Defense · · Score: 1

      Yeah, fuck them! How dare they try to protect themselves from theft on PRIVATE property that no one is REQUIRED to go to. Fuck them indeed.

      The MPAA does not own the copyrights. (Copyright misappropriation is also not theft). The MPAA also does not own the theatres. So they don't really get to set the rules as they are also not the government.

    27. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      I wish I had mod points for you!

    28. Re:Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Stuarticus · · Score: 1

      I'm going to go and steal the Eiffel tower by taking a shitty 640 x 480 picture of it. Want to buy it from me? It's the Eiffel Tower so it's probably worth a good few million at least.

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  3. I dunno what's worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The belief that they can effectively ban use of recording devices in movie theaters "policed" by soon-to-be high-school dropouts, or that people will actually watch what's recorded that way.

    1. Re:I dunno what's worse... by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      or the belief that movie theaters care very much about what happens after the popcorn money has been collected unless someone makes a huge deal out of it. I do my level best to ignore everyone else in the theater, I certainly won't notice google glass unless it's blinking like a discoball and singing stay'in alive...

      even that won't cut it for anything Michael Bay...

    2. Re:I dunno what's worse... by mlts · · Score: 1

      That is one nice thing in Austin... one local chain, the Alamo Drafthouse will eject texters, glassholes, and people on their cellphones from the theaters with great prejudice. It isn't as good as The Oatmeal's glass dome... but it makes it worth it to go to a theater. The fact the Alamo chain serves decent food and beer also is a plus.

    3. Re:I dunno what's worse... by some+old+guy · · Score: 1

      Indeed. We have one in Winchester, Virginia. Same policy, same pleasant experience.

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    4. Re:I dunno what's worse... by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Since I live in Austin, and visit the Alamo Drafthouse, I would argue two things:

      1) Their "popcorn money" isn't sold until the bill is cashed out (15 minutes before credit roll, usually). Thus they have more supervision, assuming people are using that somewhat expensive service. This model will never be "normal".
      2) They tend to ignore you unless you're disturbing someone, or else the manager happens to be filling in for someone on break.

      The only person I've ever seen thrown out was a) being a blatant asshole and b) made such a huge scene and distraction at being tossed that they ended up giving out free passes to everyone.

      While I don't object to why that person was tossed out in the least, if I were tossed out for Google Glass I would basically require them to call the police. They would lose as much money as I could arrange. I'm willing to sit quietly and silence anything on me that is making noise or light, but the rest is fascist bullshit.

    5. Re:I dunno what's worse... by SecurityGuy · · Score: 1

      We need one of those here. I'd happily pay more for a ticket if they'd kick out idiots who come to movies to play with their phones.

    6. Re:I dunno what's worse... by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      if I were tossed out for Google Glass I would basically require them to call the police.

      So instead of politely putting your google glass in your shirt pocket and wearing normal glasses, you'd rather make an ass out of yourself and get the police involved? I may be able to see your point if they just arbitrarily picked you out of a crowd, but if they went through the trouble of placing signs up at the entrance informing you of their restrictions then I'll have to side with them.

      By having the sign out front saying no recording devices, you made an educated decision to use the theater instead of looking for a different theater that is more lenient or waiting for the movie to come out for home viewing. You making an ass out of yourself won't change the theater's policy, but loss of admissions will.

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    7. Re:I dunno what's worse... by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2

      Absolutely. I don't even own google glass on the premise that it might make me violently nauseous, but if I saw someone kicked out for it I'd make a shit-storm, UNLESS he was also bothering other people, then he's on his own. I'm not about to enable anyone to set policy like this or set a precedent for toleration.

    8. Re:I dunno what's worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's a glasshole. Glassholes think the world exists for them and cannot be reasoned with. There are good, solid, and justifiable reasons that people punch out glassholes on the street, in restaurants, and maybe soon in movie theaters.

    9. Re:I dunno what's worse... by Aaden42 · · Score: 1

      The theaters kind of do care actually. I’d put money down that every screening has the date/time and theater’s location and/or ID steganographed into the video and audio. When something gets cammed and leaked, the *AA knows what theater f-d up and the theater knows who was on duty when it happened. I’m positive there are contractual stipulations with respect to how much the theater chain pays when they f-up, how many times they can f-up before being penalized in terms of not getting first-run movies, and how close to zero tolerance they have for employees who let it happen on their watch.

      The tech to do it is TRIVIAL considering they’re already doing per-viewing DRM to unlock the encrypted digital copies stored on-site. Just post-process the A/V while you’re playing it back. Simple

    10. Re:I dunno what's worse... by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 2

      You're entitled to your opinion. Don't be surprised when you are asked to leave too. We are all adults (well most of us) and we know what signs mean. You don't have to agree with them, but you are free to spend you money elsewhere.

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    11. Re:I dunno what's worse... by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 2

      I may be able to see your point if they just arbitrarily picked you out of a crowd, but if they went through the trouble of placing signs up at the entrance informing you of their restrictions then I'll have to side with them.

      By having the sign out front saying no recording devices

      Are they enforcing this restriction consistently? Are they allowing people to bring other recording devices, like smartphones, into the theater?

      What exactly is the restriction?
      If it's "no recording devices", then they're enforcing it selectively and I can see why people would be upset.
      If it's "no recording the movie", then they're enforcing it prematurely/incorrectly and I can see why people would be upset.
      If it's "no glassholes", then that's rather arbitrary and I can see why people would be upset.
      If it's "no recording devices aimed at the movie regardless of whether or not they are recording", then I suppose it remains to be seen what they'd do about someone sitting there with their phone aimed at the movie (but not recording).

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    12. Re:I dunno what's worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry but the only people who are upset are the Google glass wearers who feel entitled to do as they please.

    13. Re:I dunno what's worse... by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 1

      I'm upset and I don't own a Google Glass or know anyone who does.

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    14. Re:I dunno what's worse... by fnj · · Score: 1, Funny

      Good nazi.

    15. Re:I dunno what's worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I actually did remember seeing a glasshole get ejected from one of the D-house locations. They were pretty much told they can leave now, or else face arrest for camming because watching a movie with Google Glass is identical to pointing a camcorder to the screen. It may not be recording, but how can the theater tell the state of the device if someone is breaking Federal law by pointing a recording device at the screen.

      I don't know about the ignore thing... as soon as I stick a piece of paper in a clip on the table, I have a waiter coming by. But what do I know... I've been going to the Alamo since they opened, decades ago and hit their victory thing fairly often.

    16. Re:I dunno what's worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only good, solid, and justifiable reason I can think of to punch someone because you don't like (or are jealous of) something they own is because you're a little baby. You definitely sound like a little baby. "Waah, sumwun takky bad bad piktur. me no lik. me punch."
      Sounds to me like you're the one who thinks the world exists for them, and cannot be reasoned with...

    17. Re:I dunno what's worse... by Zynder · · Score: 1

      Signs, signs, everywhere are signs blocking up the scenery, breaking my mind. Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign?

    18. Re:I dunno what's worse... by Zynder · · Score: 1

      Personally I'm upset that I don't own a Google Glass nor anyone who does. YMMV :D

    19. Re:I dunno what's worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, you would:

      a) Be arrested, prosecuted, and be convicted of trespass,
      b) Get yourself a lifelong ban from the cinema, and
      c) Find yourself facing copyright infringement charges for trying to use a recording device in the cinema.

      Why? To what end? To prove that you have the right to break the cinema's perfectly reasonable T&Cs that you cannot use recording devices in the cinema? Which, FYI, you don't.

    20. Re:I dunno what's worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who? The guy who says you have the economic freedom to spend your money where it is welcomed, or the guy wearing yet another surveillance device sold by the almighty data mining corporation?

  4. Enforcement by areusche · · Score: 1

    Just like all of those cams on the Piratebay, good luck enforcing this one. I'll wait for the movie to hit HBO and Cinemax before dropping 15$ on a ticket.

    1. Re:Enforcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's no need to enforce it. I live in SF and I haven't seen Google Glass since about a month after the initial hype. Nobody even moderately interesting actually wears that shit.

  5. No sympathy for either side by msobkow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't like people being able to surreptitiously record things; I don't like the MPAA or RIAA on principle alone (they're leaches sucking blood from the artists.)

    So I've no sympathy for either side in this debate. I think they're both wrong.

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    1. Re:No sympathy for either side by spire3661 · · Score: 2

      The THEATER ITSELF surreptitiously records you. Your ATM records you, most business record you. You are surreptitiously recorded all the time, what is your beef with personal recording?

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    2. Re:No sympathy for either side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he who has the gold makes the rules.

      you aren't a believer in THEY LIVE yet, are you?

      they're all around us.

    3. Re:No sympathy for either side by arth1 · · Score: 1

      The THEATER ITSELF surreptitiously records you. Your ATM records you, most business record you. You are surreptitiously recorded all the time, what is your beef with personal recording?

      You appear to think that people think other surveillance is okay. To many of us, it isn't, and we treasure having a "reasonable expectation of privacy". In most of the world except USA and UK, that includes in public places.

      Freedom without privacy is a hollow freedom. Cameras restrict the individual as much as batons do.

    4. Re:No sympathy for either side by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      I came here to chew gum and kick ass...but I'm all outta gum.

    5. Re:No sympathy for either side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is your basement "papered" with tin foil?

    6. Re:No sympathy for either side by Khyber · · Score: 1

      "The THEATER ITSELF surreptitiously records you."

      Which, funnily enough, means you have the right to record back in some states.

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    7. Re:No sympathy for either side by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Also, I can't kick very hard.

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    8. Re:No sympathy for either side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who the fuck expects a "reasonable expectation of privacy" in public?

      Cameras restrict the abusers as much as the abusees.

    9. Re:No sympathy for either side by Aaden42 · · Score: 1

      Except of course when the abusers “lose” the cameras or they “malfunction,” coincidentally at the exact moment the abuse was about to occur.

      All the more reason for abusees and disinterested third parties to be camera-equipped. Sorry to hear your $50,000 police cruiser dash cam malfunctioned. Here’s the MP4 from my $600 smartphone that caught the whole thing. You’re welcome!!!!

    10. Re:No sympathy for either side by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Who the fuck expects a "reasonable expectation of privacy" in public?

      Everybody who isn't a fucking American or Brit who doesn't understand the word "reasonable".
      If you sit on a bench and write a letter to someone, you have a reasonable expectation of privacy that someone won't walk up behind you and read what you write.
      If you whisper into someone's ear in private, you have a reasonable expectation of privacy and that no-one uses a high sensitive directional mic to capture what you say.
      If you wear a skirt in public, you have a reasonable expectation of privacy that no one looks up under your skirt. No laws are needed to explicitly prohibit it, because it's already a reasonable expectation of privacy.

    11. Re:No sympathy for either side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > You appear to think that people think other surveillance is okay.

      As soon as the same people who complain about Glass start complaining about other surveillance I'll believe your argument.

      Problem is, often the people who complain the loudest about Glass are business owners who have camera systems.

    12. Re:No sympathy for either side by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      Record the recorder, maybe, but not record the movie. Federal Copyright law still trumps state law on that front...

    13. Re:No sympathy for either side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Cameras restrict the individual as much as batons do.
      Why is this so? Cameras don't restict anything at all. They are not active form for harm like a baton is an active form of harm. The just sit there doing their thing and they don't get in your way. Also, you have no expectation to privacy when you're out in the public.

    14. Re:No sympathy for either side by Zynder · · Score: 1

      You are stating the way it should be and not the way it is. I believe in your ideal, but I have to live in the real world so...

      If I sit on a bench and write a letter to someone, I do my best to obscure it from view or at least write about something mundane that I wouldn't care that got read
      If I whisper into someone's ear in PUBLIC, I assume someone could be using a high sensitivity directional mic to capture what I say- so I don't say important shit.
      If I wear a skirt in public, I assume someone is trying to look up my skirt and wear appropriately hilarious underwear.

      Don't think I'm arguing against what you're preachin but I also don't want to subject myself to victim blaming so I take as many precautions as I find reasonable. If I want to do sneaky shit, I don't do it in public because there just isn't a "reasonable expectation of privacy" no matter how much we might wish it.

    15. Re:No sympathy for either side by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      This genie is WAY out of the bottle, and isnt going back any time soon.

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    16. Re:No sympathy for either side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't like people being able to surreptitiously record things;

      I wish that people would stay walking around holding their smartphone out in front of them, with the camera facing towards people (like the parent poster). The camera shouldn't be turned on, it should just make people unsure of what is going on...

      All this love for a smartphone that has a far better camera, better battery life, better processor ... etc, etc, and all this hate for Google Glass is just stupid.

  6. So the question is ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Should Netflix send the MPAA a thank you card or a cake?

    If the theaters start following the advice to search customers and watch them with night vision goggles is anyone going to be willing go to theaters anymore.

    1. Re:So the question is ... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Advice? More like a demand. It's not like theaters own their own theater anymore. Bend over to your MPAA overlord or no movies for you!

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    2. Re:So the question is ... by Aaden42 · · Score: 1

      I had my iPad bag searched going in to watch The Giver a couple of months ago. My group of four respectable looking 30-something’s who were having a conversation about the book it was based on at the time, were physically blocked by the Rent-a-Truncheon(tm) who demanded to paw though my stuff before I could be permitted to walk in. They’d already taken our tickets, so I wouldn’t even have been permitted to run it back out to the car without paying for a second ticket. He pointedly gestured at the “Absolutely no re-entry!” sign when I stated that’s what I wanted to do.

      You’ll never catch me at that theatre again. I have to just about be bodily dragged to a theater anyways, and I’m kind of a stickler when it comes to being secure in my person and effects...

    3. Re:So the question is ... by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      Should Netflix send the MPAA a thank you card or a cake?

      A pie would probably be preferred. We all know how untruthful cakes can be.

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  7. Laywer fight by adriccom · · Score: 1

    It will be fun to see this go up against the Americans With Disabilities Act (et al) in court in a few weeks/year when citizens rely on digital devices to augment their biology.

    EG, as soon as my spectacles have on-board tech this fails fast.

    Hey, would someone get on that? Why can't I snap picks like Spider yet?

    hth
    adric

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    1. Re:Laywer fight by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      It will be fun to see this go up against the Americans With Disabilities Act (et al) in court in a few weeks/year when citizens rely on digital devices to augment their biology.

      https://www.vsp.com/google-gla...
      Done.

    2. Re:Laywer fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well considering it is a federal felony to record use a recording device in a theater I don't think there will be any lawsuit what so ever.

      " Any person who, without the authorization of the copyright owner, knowingly uses or attempts to use an audiovisual recording device to transmit or make a copy of a motion picture or other audiovisual work protected under title 17, or any part thereof, from a performance of such work in a motion picture exhibition facility, shall—
      (1) be imprisoned for not more than 3 years, fined under this title, or both; or
      (2) if the offense is a second or subsequent offense, be imprisoned for no more than 6 years, fined under this title, or both. "

    3. Re:Laywer fight by SenatorPerry · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just to add,

      This isn't a future issue. I have prescription frames that I use with my Google Glass. Those glasses are my only glasses with my current prescription. The Google Glass is actually one arm of the frame, so you can't remove it and still use the glasses. To tell me that I can not wear the Google Glass in the theatre means that it would eliminate my mechanism to correct my near-sightedness.

      I am happy to turn the Glass off at a movie. I do the same at other performances that do not allow videos/photos. My cellphone is turned off. Why do I have to remove my glasses completely? It is okay though. I will stay at home instead. Someday we all will have something similar to Google Glass. It may not seem like it and it may have to come from someone other than Google, but the experience and benefits will one day compel us all as the cell phone does today.

    4. Re:Laywer fight by Holi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wait you could afford a $1500 Google Glass but you cannot afford a set of normal frames? You sir have screwed up priorities.

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    5. Re:Laywer fight by mythosaz · · Score: 2

      He didn't have the $1506.95 to order Google Glass and order a pair of prescription glasses from Zenni Optical as a backup.

    6. Re:Laywer fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wait you could afford a $1500 Google Glass but you cannot afford a set of normal frames? You sir have screwed up priorities.

      Troll much? I disagree with this statement.

      Suppose that your vision is such that, like many people, you require corrective lenses in order to see properly. Now suppose that being one of those many people who requires corrective lenses, you also wish to use Google Glass as a lifestyle choice. Why would you desire to purchase a second pair of glasses which does not have the extra features which you use?

      For reference, I am not a Google Glass user, but I am near-sighted and do wear eyeglasses all the time, even as I'm writing this post right now. I only own a single pair in my current prescription. I also own a computer which technically I don't need which cost a lot more than my glasses. Are my priorities also screwed up?

    7. Re:Laywer fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where did he say he couldn't afford to? He said it was his only pair. I don't normally order more than one pair of glasses at a time either.

    8. Re:Laywer fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because everybody carries their second pair of glasses with them? really?

    9. Re:Laywer fight by Aaden42 · · Score: 1

      Wearing Glass != making a recording. Prove I made an MP4 or no law has been violated.

    10. Re:Laywer fight by Whiternoise · · Score: 1

      I think ultimately this is going to be a case of hard cheese on your part.

      I largely agree with the MPAA on this one, for once, it's not unreasonable to demand that people don't take recording devices into a cinema and Glass is potentially a fantastically easy way to record a movie without anyone noticing. I have no idea if the battery or the storage would last for 2 hours though. From their perspective, the number of Glass owners is statistically zero, but the potential of one user uploading a recording could do them a lot of damage (the number of people who watch illegal cinema recordings is probably also statistically zero to them, but we'll gloss over that).

      For what it's worth, I always own two pairs of glasses in case one breaks or I leave one at home and I need to drive somewhere.

    11. Re:Laywer fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, when the Zombie invasion occurs and people are running into each other to get away, you drop your only pair of glasses and then what? You're a Zombie, that's what.

      Get with the program. Get a spare set of glasses and a bug out kit.

      Even the CDC wants you to do this. And we know how cool they are.

    12. Re:Laywer fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you can afford $1500.00 for a toy, you can afford to buy a spare set of glasses for those moments that your Google Glass isn't appropriate. First world problems, first world choices.

    13. Re:Laywer fight by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      I largely agree with the MPAA on this one, for once, it's not unreasonable to demand that people don't take recording devices into a cinema and Glass is potentially a fantastically easy way to record a movie without anyone noticing. I have no idea if the battery or the storage would last for 2 hours though. From their perspective, the number of Glass owners is statistically zero, but the potential of one user uploading a recording could do them a lot of damage (the number of people who watch illegal cinema recordings is probably also statistically zero to them, but we'll gloss over that).

      It's just as easy to get a ballpoint pen with recording capabilities, and it is just as stealthy. I don't see them inspecting ballpoint pens. No, this is arbitrary, which makes it bad policy.

      And the problem is that Glass isn't just a recording device. It is also glasses. They don't require you to leave your cell phones elsewhere. They don't require you to leave your laptops and tablets elsewhere. So again, the policy is arbitrary, which makes it bad policy, by definition.

      For what it's worth, I always own two pairs of glasses in case one breaks or I leave one at home and I need to drive somewhere.

      Do you always have the second pair with you? I mean, I do, but I also carry a drum key, a utility knife, and a high-capacity flash drive, so I'm not your typical person. :-)

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    14. Re:Laywer fight by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1

      I only own a single pair in my current prescription. I also own a computer which technically I don't need which cost a lot more than my glasses. Are my priorities also screwed up?

      Depends. Is your computer inextricably connected to your single pair of glasses, and if so, are there places where there are specific rules or social conventions that make your life more difficult while you're wearing them? Do you value them more than you value your freedom of movement?

      Comparing that Glass user's situation to yours with your computer (a completely unrelated device) isn't reasonable, because they aren't similar.

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    15. Re:Laywer fight by KingMotley · · Score: 1

      So if someone who is paralyzed and didn't buy a wheelchair should also have the right to park their car in the movie theater since that's the only way they can get in there. I'm sorry you didn't buy a non-google glass pair of glasses, but that is your fault.

    16. Re:Laywer fight by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      Oh, you have to be kidding me. There may be valid arguments for Google glass but this is not one of them. You can get a cheap pair of glasses for the price of a movie ticket and some popcorn these days.

      It's like whining about eliminating your ability to drive because the F1 car in your garage is not street legal.

    17. Re:Laywer fight by Zynder · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info! VSP is my vision insurance provider. I wasn't aware that they were so forward thinking.

    18. Re:Laywer fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quit talking big, puss puss. You totally let them search your shit so your beeotch would fuck you afterwards. Walk the walk or STFU.

    19. Re:Laywer fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is unreasonable to ask people to remove the device that enables them to see the movie. Prescription Google glasses arguably don't meet that definition _if_ the customer has a spare pair of ordinary glasses, but the ban is stated to be aimed directly at future camera-glasses. Future camera glasses may well be what restores sight to some of those who are currently blind, e.g. http://www.psfk.com/2014/07/smart-glasses-near-blind-people.html

    20. Re:Laywer fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ADA requires 'reasonable accommodation'. Prescription glasses are evidence of disability and a merchant or service provider does NOT have the right to refuse admittance. A ticket holder request to see the movies with a non detachable Google glass would likely prevail. I suspect that a hearing impaired person with Google glass on would also have a viable case. In the absence of a theater provided audio device for the hearing impaired that is suitable for the ticket holder use, use of Google glass seems like a required 'reasonable accommodation'. Probably a class action against the theater chains and maybe against MPAA/studios/distributors if they use contractual language to require theaters to deny 'reasonable accommodation'. Sounds like lots of deep pockets for a contingency lawyer.

    21. Re:Laywer fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $7 for glasses sounds too good to be true... ...because it is. What you linked to are frames. Lenses still cost a bit more.

    22. Re:Laywer fight by mythosaz · · Score: 1

      What you don't understand is that you're too dumb to read a webpage.

      Zenni Optical has made a business selling cheap glasses, and the linked page lists all of the frames at $6.95 that include prescription lenses. Those are complete custom prescription eyeglasses for under $7. Shipping runs $5, scales nicely with multiple frames/lenses, but in all fairness also wasn't included in the Glass Explorer price.

  8. for once I agree with the MPAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    this has been around a long time.

    And if it keeps the glassholes away, even better!

    1. Re:for once I agree with the MPAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about Microsofties? How can we chase them out of our forums and discussion sites? They're ruining it for everybody.

    2. Re:for once I agree with the MPAA by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Funny

      Can't we put MPAA lawyers and Google Glass enthusiasts into one room and have them duke it out?

      Whoever loses. We win.

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    3. Re:for once I agree with the MPAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if it's a shower room.

    4. Re:for once I agree with the MPAA by neoritter · · Score: 1

      But the one that survives will be stronger and more bad ass... :O

  9. Let's be serious here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was no reason to wear them while watching a movie. You're either watching glass or watching the movie.

    Unless maybe you're a parent watching a kid's movie. But then you'd need to talk to the glasses which no one wants anyway.

    1. Re:Let's be serious here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you need to wear glasses and the wearables are your primary set of glasses?

    2. Re:Let's be serious here by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Quite frankly, with the quality of a good deal of movies today, NOT watching it is probably the only thing that could keep the audience in the theater...

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    3. Re:Let's be serious here by houstonbofh · · Score: 2

      There was no reason to wear them while watching a movie.

      Uh... Vision deficit?

    4. Re:Let's be serious here by iamacat · · Score: 1

      Actually with right apps it can be a great experience enhanced by delivering personalized content during the movie. Like multi-language subtitles, or facts on actors / previous plot reminders.

    5. Re:Let's be serious here by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 1

      You wealthy enough to purchase Google glass but too poor to have a regular pair of glasses?

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    6. Re:Let's be serious here by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Actually with right apps it can be a great experience enhanced by delivering personalized content during the movie. Like multi-language subtitles, or facts on actors / previous plot reminders.

      Or, you know, you could just watch the movie.

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    7. Re:Let's be serious here by mythosaz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This has been posted 10 times probably in this thread, but ideally an eyeglass wearing Glass wearer would just have one pair of glasses on their person most of the time. Most of us who wear eyeglasses keep a spare pair in the glove compartment if our prescription is severe enough, and you'd think that a Glass wearer would understand the social issues around Glass enough to keep another pair nearby, but if I went all-in on Glass, I probably wouldn't have another pair in my pocket - and despite allegations to the contrary, I don't carry a murse.

      The idea behind Glass is that you just wear them. They become the norm.

      Look, I'm with you. I agree that you should have the foresight to put on your normal glasses when you go to the theater - the same sort of foresight that says, "Hey, 3D movie, maybe I'll wear my contacts today, because 3D glasses." - but if you're all-in on Glass, you've probably just adapted to the fact that they're just your glasses.

    8. Re:Let's be serious here by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I do not believe a single Google glass wearer is surprised that they may be asked to remove them at a theater, bar, or restaurant. It's been all over the news since the thing was first released. I place these google glass wearers in the same category as smokers who are surprised that they have lung cancer.

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    9. Re:Let's be serious here by mythosaz · · Score: 1

      I don't disagree there either.

      I'm just saying that the idea behind Glass is just that they become some sort of ubiquitous thing on your face. I forget I'm wearing my own eyeglasses pretty much constantly.

    10. Re:Let's be serious here by isilrion · · Score: 1

      Actually with right apps it can be a great experience enhanced by delivering personalized content during the movie. Like multi-language subtitles, or facts on actors / previous plot reminders.

      Or, you know, you could just watch the movie.

      Some people may need subtitles to "just watch the movie".

    11. Re:Let's be serious here by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1

      Then you made a choice (and I might argue a stupid one), and you get to deal with the consequences. Them's the breaks. It's not like different people's and business' issues with Glass hasn't been reported on and publicized since they first came out. Whether or not a Blood-red shirt is my only shirt, I'm not going to go into Crips gang territory while wearing it.

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    12. Re:Let's be serious here by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      I do not believe a single Google glass wearer is surprised that they may be asked to remove them at a theater, bar, or restaurant. It's been all over the news since the thing was first released. I place these google glass wearers in the same category as smokers who are surprised that they have lung cancer.

      I also ride a motorcycle. I have glasses appropriate for that. They wrap around the face. They also block some sunlight. Some places say I have to remove my sun glasses to come in. I know this, and see it from time to time. However, I remove myself along with my glasses. I am not going to bring along a second pair just to accommodate someone who I was planning on giving money to.

  10. To the surprise of no one by jazzdude00021 · · Score: 1

    The MPAA took the most restrictive course possible on keeping their movies from being reproduced without them getting a share. And in this case, they're well within their right. You bought a ticket to see the movie once. That does not give you a right to record it yourself. If you don't like their terms, don't buy the ticket.

    Now, if I buy a copy of a movie for me to legally enjoy in the privacy of my home, but they impose technological restrictions that prevent me from doing so, then I'll bother to get upset. And yes, I dislike the MPAA for doing that. But that's not happening here.

    This...is not news...not even for nerds...and it really doesn't matter. Story voted (-1) Flamebait.

    1. Re:To the surprise of no one by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Of course, I'm not sure what the value of crappy, head mounted recording it going to be, or how much it devalues the product.

      I agree you shouldn't be recording the stuff in a movie theater, but a head mounted recording it going to have limited sound quality, is going to move around as the watcher does, and you'll probably hear them eating popcorn.

      Do crappy recordings like this actually get watched and cut into DVD sales? I sure as heck wouldn't be interested in watching one of these, and I want my full surround sound in my home theater, not some dodgy stereo recording of the sounds inside the movie theater.

      This sounds like it would be like watching Mystery Science Theater 3000, but without the good stuff.

      I've never seen one of these recordings (I've never actually downloaded a movie, except for digital copies I've bought) -- but I can't imagine they're worth watching.

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    2. Re:To the surprise of no one by mythosaz · · Score: 1

      I posted this above, but the short version is that, yes, people are downloading and watching cam versions of films.

      In the cases of some movies, it no doubt means some level of lost revenue.

      Go to TPB, look at today's Movie torrents, and you'll see a lot of them are cams. Sort by most peers or most leechers, and you'll see a lot of cams as well.

    3. Re:To the surprise of no one by scalarscience · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That still doesn't mean it equates 1:1 to *lost ticket sales*, especially as TBP and other mainstream *rrent sites are a global audience.

      As someone who works in the content industries (I am a musician and 3D animator & VFX guy) I care less about the 'poor unwashed masses' consuming movies and music early in release schedule via *rrents for ticket sales reasons, and care more about people being able to experience creative works with some kind of quality control in place. Which imo is the same reason people care about cel phones going off in a theatre. As a content producer though cams and crappy mp3's are only going to worsen the experience regardless of how good or poor a script or composition may be. Quality control is paramount...

      Thus it follows that MPAA is trying to insure that only HIGH QUALITY cams are created, none of that horribly low res head-shake-vomit-inducing cams for the proletariat thank you very much! (/sarcasm)

    4. Re:To the surprise of no one by Whiternoise · · Score: 2

      They're generally awful and often Russian, but the quality varies. People watch them because they are one of the only ways to get hold of a movie prior to its release on DVD or BluRay perhaps months later. Some people are simply poor and buying an illegal DVD of the Avengers the week it's released at the cinema is better value than taking the whole family (where I live a family of four is probably going to pay around $60 including popcorn). Have a look at the top torrents on TPB, lots of people download them to check if the movie looks any good before they go or simply because they want to say they've seen it.

    5. Re:To the surprise of no one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of the cams are crap, some are pretty decent. I live 50 miles from the nearest theatre, and I will admit that on the rare occasion a movie comes out I want to see I generally watch it on my computer. I usually wait for a DVD version but once in a while will check out the cams on the net, but most of the good ones seem to come from China or Russia, where they probably let them set up a tripod.

    6. Re:To the surprise of no one by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      The MPAA took the most restrictive course possible on keeping their movies from being reproduced without them getting a share. And in this case, they're well within their right. You bought a ticket to see the movie once. That does not give you a right to record it yourself. If you don't like their terms, don't buy the ticket. Now, if I buy a copy of a movie for me to legally enjoy in the privacy of my home, but they impose technological restrictions that prevent me from doing so, then I'll bother to get upset.

      To play devil's advocate here, why? They "took the most restrictive course possible on keeping their movies from being reproduced without them getting a share." You bought a copy of a movie to watch on their terms. That does not give you a right to watch it on other terms. If you don't like their terms, don't buy the DVD or Blu-Ray.

      Either the MPAA is being a bunch of a**hats by banning Glass in theaters or they aren't being a**hats by using restrictive DRM. I fail to see the difference.

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    7. Re:To the surprise of no one by Scarletdown · · Score: 2

      The MPAA took the most restrictive course possible on keeping their movies from being reproduced without them getting a share. And in this case, they're well within their right. You bought a ticket to see the movie once. That does not give you a right to record it yourself. If you don't like their terms, don't buy the ticket.

      Now, if I buy a copy of a movie for me to legally enjoy in the privacy of my home, but they impose technological restrictions that prevent me from doing so, then I'll bother to get upset.

      To play devil's advocate here, why? They "took the most restrictive course possible on keeping their movies from being reproduced without them getting a share." You bought a copy of a movie to watch on their terms. That does not give you a right to watch it on other terms. If you don't like their terms, don't buy the DVD or Blu-Ray.

      Watching a movie purchased on DVD or other physical media does not require clicking "I Agree" first before it can be viewed. And even if it did, so what? If I purchase a movie on DVD, and I want to run it through DVDFab to turn it into an ISO to watch right off my hard drive instead of having to have the physical disc in the drive, I will. If I want to convert it to a format that I can view on my PSP, or on a tablet, or even on my smart phone, I will. I will do whatever the hell I want with the copy I legally purchased (short of distributing copies to other people of course).

      I do not give a flying fuck what "protective measures" were put on the original media. If the publishers do not like it, they are cordially invited to go fuck themselves. They got paid for the DVD from its first sale (whether I was the original purchaser, or the original purchaser was the one who donated it to the Goodwill from whence I subsequently purchased it.) Their rights over that copy (with some obvious exceptions) end with that first sale.

      Oh yeah, and as an afterthought, as I always see on ads for movies... "Own it today on DVD or Blu-Ray!"

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    8. Re:To the surprise of no one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given how hard many cams are to watch - those recorded with stationary cameras, the idea that you're going to make a successful cam with a camera attached to a living, moving, bobbling, popcorn-eating head is pretty laughable.

    9. Re:To the surprise of no one by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Watching a movie purchased on DVD or other physical media does not require clicking "I Agree" first before it can be viewed.

      Again, to play devil's advocate, you didn't click "I agree" when you bought a movie ticket, either, though. You still have to comply with the theater's policies, and if they are stupid, your sole options are to go somewhere else or not watch the movie. Yes, it is slightly different because they are merely a distributor as opposed to the content creator, so you might argue that their policies are easier to get around, thus less important to protest. On the other hand, because this is a systemwide decision by the MPAA, that doesn't really apply except insofar as some theaters choose to look the other way when they see violations, so....

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    10. Re:To the surprise of no one by jazzdude00021 · · Score: 1

      Allow me to clarify: A movie ticket allows you to see it once. Recording that is quite plainly a violation of copyright. Your ticket gives you a one-time schedule viewing of a piece of content. The end.

      Buying a copy of a movie (hypothetically) allows you to enjoy it an unlimited number of views for an infinite amount of time. Because the MPAA are afraid of those people who would exploit these copies by illicitly sharing and/or selling their own reproductions to others, they hinder the ability of all users to enjoy their product on whatever device they choose to view it on. The DMCA (awful as it is) allows for Fair Use, a clause that the MPAA (in my non-lawyer opinion) leaves lying bloodied and beat up in a dumpster, helpless, but still doesn't outright break.

      So to borrow your turn of phrase: In a theater you're on their terms, therefore they're not being ***hats. In my home where I own a collection of devices that, due to their restrictions, may not all play my legally purchased content, they are being ***hats. Just because they generally seem to be a bunch of **hats who try to screw over everyone doesn't mean everything they do is ***hat-ery.

    11. Re:To the surprise of no one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And in this case, they're well within their right. You bought a ticket to see the movie once. That does not give you a right to record it yourself. If you don't like their terms, don't buy the ticket.

      Incorrect. US law explicitly provides for making unauthorized copies of ANYTHING subject to copyright under USC 117 section 107, known as "fair use". This right can not be taken away by any form of contract (attempting to do so is in itself grounds for the losing the copyright). Fair use rights exist as a consequence of the responsibility of Congress to construct laws subject to reasonable limitations that the people might to place on the authority of government under the 9th Amendment.

      Hence, in this matter, the MPAA is effectively granting to itself legislative authority superseding that of the US Congress, by amending the text of USC 117 section 107, as passed by the US Congress and signed by the US President, to disallow the exercise of fair use rights in theaters. Perhaps they feel they've spent enough money buying Congress to no longer need it.

      In short, the MPAA is acting illegally, not for the first time, and (given the prevalence of unethical practice of law in the USA) doubtless not for the last time.

      Further, it seems clear that to enforce this illegal policy, it will be necessary to search every person entering a theater, since many recording devices can be easily concealed. Also, this policy effectively removes any possibility of bringing recording devices into a theater to protect oneself or society from criminals. Anybody wanting to break the law (in some matter unrelated to copyright) without the danger of being recorded could simply arrange to have meetings at the back of a mostly empty theater.

      The purchase of the ticket is irrelevant and immaterial to these considerations: contract law can not be used as a tool to take away the 9th Amendment as a matter of ethical practice of law. That the movie is shown on private property is also immaterial: if all fundamental rights could be infringed without limitation on private property, the government could simply make all property "private" (in some sense) to allow it to infringe any rights desired.

      The legal professionals working for the MPAA in this matter are thus engaging in a violation of their oaths to uphold the law, and in unethical practice of law. Doubtless they are hoping their fellow legal professionals, who have never been particularly happy about the existence of 117 S 107 (or, for that matter, the 9th Amendment), will find some pretext to ignore these minor transgressions. Unfortunately, that kind of thing happens in US law every single day: we live in a land of the lawyer, by the lawyer, and for the lawyer, and unethical practice of law has become an everyday occurrence, with the lawyers looking out for each other to keep anybody from rocking the boat.

      The recording is not an issue: what usage one makes of the recording is an issue. Here there already laws in place to limit what can be done with recordings: if the MPAA feels those laws need to be altered, they can participate in the normal legislative process, and try to convince the public and its representatives in Congress that such modifications are appropriate.

  11. Smart phones still acceptable. by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So I can't use Google Glass, but I'm free to bring in my smart phone, which has an HD camera and likely better quality? Good work there, MPAA.

    1. Re:Smart phones still acceptable. by jongalbreath · · Score: 1, Funny

      And battery life to actually capture the end of the movie too, bonus!

    2. Re:Smart phones still acceptable. by houstonbofh · · Score: 2

      And battery life to actually capture the end of the movie too, bonus!

      You can do it with glass... You just have to see the movie 10 times.

    3. Re:Smart phones still acceptable. by Spy+Handler · · Score: 2

      You got mislead by the trollish title. They didn't ban people from bringing in a Google Glass, you just have to put it away and not wear/use it during the movie. Just like a cellphone. The theaters forbid you from holding up your cellphone and recording currently also.

    4. Re:Smart phones still acceptable. by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Some of the newer theaters are blocking cellphone reception inside the building. If you want to use your cellphone for voice and/or data, you need to step outside of the building to pick up reception. I guess this prevents someone with a wireless camera from transmitting to a recording device in the parking lot.

    5. Re:Smart phones still acceptable. by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 1

      No, you're also required to turn off your phone and put it away. This is no different.

      Btw, this thread is a good argument to ban ACs. So many of the entitled nitwits in this thread are posting as AC.

    6. Re:Smart phones still acceptable. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So the MPAA should actually be encouraging Google Glass. They will sell 10x the number of tickets.

    7. Re:Smart phones still acceptable. by mythosaz · · Score: 1

      They'd better be blocking it passively, with a Faraday theater of sorts, or we can all line up for our lawsuit.

    8. Re:Smart phones still acceptable. by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Concrete and steel. I suspect the tinted glass in doors and windows might have something special in them. If I stood on one side of the glass door, I got less than a bar on my cellphone. The bars popped to normal range when I stepped outside.

    9. Re:Smart phones still acceptable. by Aaden42 · · Score: 2

      Because the 128GB of flash in your phone isn’t enough to cap a two hour movie without a network connection? Math much?

      I don’t spend two hours in places that have no reception. It doesn’t happen. Yes, my phone is on silent & in my pocket. No, I don’t pull it out & light up the screen in the middle of the show. But if one of a handful of distinctive vibrate patterns goes off while I’m watching the film, I’m out the door in the lobby to answer it before it stops ringing, or else I’m out of a job.

    10. Re:Smart phones still acceptable. by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      I'm just speculating as to why a movie threater would design a building to be a cellphone dead zone. The building design doesn't prevent someone from playing Angry Birds during the middle of a movie.

    11. Re:Smart phones still acceptable. by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 1

      Find me a single theater that requires you to TURN OFF your phone (instead of just putting it on silent, and putting it away).

      I wouldn't give my money to one at all. Some of us need our phones to be on.

    12. Re:Smart phones still acceptable. by nabsltd · · Score: 1

      Because the 128GB of flash in your phone isn't enough to cap a two hour movie without a network connection?

      A very reasonable bitrate for 720p video results in about 2GB/hour (including 2-channel sound).

      Even a relatively insane 8GB/hour (17Mbps) would fit on a 32GB device. If you do have the ability to add a 128GB micro-SD, then the bitrate could be so far beyond the actual quality offered by a handheld camera that the codec would literally be filling frames with NOPs to keep to the requested bitrate.

    13. Re:Smart phones still acceptable. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of the newer theaters are blocking cellphone reception inside the building. If you want to use your cellphone for voice and/or data, you need to step outside of the building to pick up reception. I guess this prevents someone with a wireless camera from transmitting to a recording device in the parking lot.

      It prevents annoying phone calls, and streaming the movie directly. It does not in any way prevent *recording*. The camera, and most other smartphone features, works fine without the cellular connection.

    14. Re:Smart phones still acceptable. by karnal · · Score: 1

      Some tint actually has metal particles in it. If you go to get your car tinted, it's recommended not to use that type of tint as it will adversely affect cell reception and radio reception (especially on cars with embedded windhield/rear window antennas.)

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    15. Re:Smart phones still acceptable. by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      As per the usual, the headline is more sensational than the actual press release. What they actually said was the following:

      As part of our continued efforts to ensure movies are not recorded in theaters, however, we maintain a zero-tolerance policy toward using any recording device while movies are being shown. As has been our long-standing policy, all phones must be silenced and other recording devices, including wearable devices, must be turned off and put away at show time. Individuals who fail or refuse to put the recording devices away may be asked to leave.

      I.e. Google Glass isn't banned. You just have to turn it off and put it away, the same as smartphones or other devices that can be used for recording.

  12. Who likes a horrible recording? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously the effort of preventing recordings after a movie is available stunns me. I thin it was the first week of harry potter showings there were security empolyees in every theater, even after it leaked one day prior to the Dutch release.

    And who downloads and waches the horrible cam rips. go to a theater, wait a month or two, anything is better.

    1. Re:Who likes a horrible recording? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And who downloads and waches the horrible cam rips. go to a theater, wait a month or two, anything is better.

      Teenagers who can't get themselves to a movie theater/pay for the ticket

    2. Re:Who likes a horrible recording? by Aaden42 · · Score: 1

      And clearly teenagers who can neither get to a theater nor pay for a ticket are exactly the untapped segment of the customer base that the MPAA is just dying to...... no... wait...

  13. Can we ban the MPAA instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Who voted to give these unelected fucks authority over anything?

    1. Re:Can we ban the MPAA instead? by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      I banned the MPAA in 2000, I haven't gone to see any of their shit since then. My life is the better for it. *gently strokes PC* it's solved allllll my entertainment issues.

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    2. Re:Can we ban the MPAA instead? by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 1

      The same people who allow you authority at your business. Your entitled attitude is the only problem here.

    3. Re:Can we ban the MPAA instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TROLL

    4. Re:Can we ban the MPAA instead? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

      I banned the MPAA in 2000, I haven't gone to see any of their shit since then. My life is the better for it. *gently strokes PC* it's solved allllll my entertainment issues.

      If you're using your PC and, presumably, the Internet for *all* your entertainment "issues" and stroking your PC, you're doing it wrong.

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  14. Selective? by Luthair · · Score: 0

    So why are we banning Google Glass, but not cellphones? Cellphones have cameras too, they're much more annoying than glass for anyone in the theatre.

    1. Re:Selective? by Higaran · · Score: 1

      Zero tolerance policy on any recording device, that would include a smart phone.

    2. Re:Selective? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because if the MPAA told everyone that you can't bring your cell phone into a movie theater.....there would be a shit storm of pissed of people and a serious decline in ticket sales because of it.

      Banning Google Glass means a few people who own it, and wanted to wear it in a theater, might be put off, but that's a small number of people.

      From the statement of the spokesperson, this really isn't because they think Google Glass is a threat. They are putting this in place so as future, higher quality devices come out, they are already covered.

    3. Re:Selective? by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Well, they're only going to ban you if you use the smart phone to actually record.

      There's pretty much no way in hell they could try to stop anybody with a cell phone from entering a movie cinema .. pretty much everyone carries on these days.

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    4. Re:Selective? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A. Easier to ban. Few people have them, so they're jumping on it before it becomes a problem.

      B. Stealthy. The only indication that it's recording is a little LED light that could be covered with a bit of opaque tape or paint.

      OTOH, someone recording with a smartphone will be holding a shiny, brightly glowing block of glass and metal at about chest to head level in a nearly pitch-black room with 50+ other people in it. If you can pull that off without getting caught, props, you should be working for the CIA. I'm certain there's a market for people who can surreptitiously record things in spy work.

      Ultimately, all the MPAA gives a flying crap about is illegally recording, because it could cut into their profits and maybe prevent the executives from buying their fifth or sixth lamborghini.

    5. Re:Selective? by tsqr · · Score: 1

      As has been said before (and roundly ignored), they're not keeping you from bringing Glass into the theatre; they just want you to turn it off and put it away. Just like your cellphone.

    6. Re:Selective? by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      From the statement of the spokesperson, this really isn't because they think Google Glass is a threat. They are putting this in place so as future, higher quality devices come out, they are already covered.

      Of course, this isn't going to do them any good when such future, higher quality devices are designed in such a way that unless the owner actually blabbed about it, no one would even know that they were wearing such a higher quality recording device. Surely the technology will advance to the point to where such devices will be so seamless in one's glasses or whatever it may be installed upon, that they will be undetectable.

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  15. Anyone still going to the movies? by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Waiting half an hour to buy a ticket for about ten bucks, then suffering for 3 hours in 100+ degrees heat to ensure you need to buy something to drink, sitting and standing in the leftovers of the previous show and getting to choose to either not understanding any dialogue or getting a tinnitus from explosions and music (or rather, having that choice being made for you)...

    Seriously? Anyone still masochist enough for that "authentic experience"?

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    1. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      I tend to prefer cinemas with air con and sensible levels on their sound system.

    2. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by cdrudge · · Score: 2

      Perhaps you should find a better theater to go to. The last movie I went to, St. Vincent, was quite enjoyable. Heard everything quite clearly. Temperature was quite comfortable. My feet didn't stick to the floor. I must have waited a whole 3 minutes for my tickets, but most of that was because the printer was misbehaving. The $10 was more than I like to spend, but aside from that I didn't have a problem.

    3. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by redmid17 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Where the fuck are you going to see movies? Seriously I have no idea.

      Are you going to a circle of hell that only caters to people who don't like movie theathers because almost nothing you've described accurately resembles a movie theater run in the last 50 years except maybe the price and cleanliness.

    4. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Where are these mythical places? The places that care whether their rooms smell like the average high school locker room where they don't have to use some sort of artificial butter because even REAL butter would stay liquid? With a sound system operated by someone who isn't just subscribing to the "one knob is all you need to adjust it" philosophy (or who knows what the others are there for)?

      Seriously, you get what you pay for, and movie theater employees don't tend to be among the best paid ones...

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    5. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where the FUCK are you watching movies that are over three hours long and over 100 degrees? Seriously WTF.

    6. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention all the idiots with their phones on, talking, or whatever. Inability to pause when I need to visit the toilet or get a snack. Plus I can eat actual food like a burger, pizza, or anything without having to go to one of those awful cafe theaters that are so loud you can't hear the movie.

      With modern technology you can have a decent enough experience without the theater. Huge screens, projectors, surround-sound, etc is all available and relatively affordable by normal people these days. Sure, you're not going to get iMAX at home easily but it's good enough to make the effort of going out not worth it.

    7. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Higaran · · Score: 1

      That only happens at the cheap shows now a days, any good place has online ticket purchasing, and/or kiosks when you can get tickets with out standing in line, at most you have to wait for one person in front of you to finish using the machine. Then they have reserved seating so you can actually pick where you want and you can see what seats are used up around you. Yes it's still a bit pricey, it's worth paying the extra dollar a ticket at the good places because they provide a good experience going to the movies.

    8. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It shows that you haven't been to the movies in at least a decade:

      -buy your tickets online
      -go to a nice new theater where the sound system is properly calibrated, and the floors are cleaned
      -most theaters have air conditioning. it's often a great respite from the summer heat.
      -yell at the kids to get off of your lawn.

    9. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by mydn · · Score: 1

      WTF theater do you go to? I buy my ticket on Fandango, no waiting. I don't even know what to say about the "3 hours in 100+ degrees heat", I've never experienced anything remotely close to that. The theaters which I frequent have staff that clear the theater of debris and spills in between shows. And the sound in the theater is probably the best sound that I hear anywhere.

      Seriously, you need to find a better theater. Or open one yourself, it sounds like you've found a market for a decent theater.

    10. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      At the moment, Berlin, but also this was the case in the UK and Amsterdam, and Belgium; although I will admit the Brighton Odeon did crank up the volume a little high few years back. I'm sure they have perfectly decent cinemas in the US as well though.

    11. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Where the fuck are you going to the movies? Liberia?

      Where I am, the theatres are actually too cold a lot of the time (but then again, Canada) and it takes maybe 5 minutes to get a ticket at most, thanks to automated ticket booths. You need to find a new theatre.

    12. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by ortholattice · · Score: 5, Funny

      Waiting half an hour to buy a ticket [...]

      "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded." - Yogi Berra

    13. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Seriously? Anyone still masochist enough for that "authentic experience"?

      There's a handful of movies I still want to see in the cinema ... lately, mostly stuff put out by Marvel and other blockbusters.

      But, increasingly, I simply don't go. I wait until it comes out on BluRay, watch it in my leather recliner, where I can pause, drink beer, and not have to deal with everyone else in the cinema.

      I figure for the price of two people going to the cinema, buying the overpriced snacks, and all of the other stuff ... I can buy several BluRays (more if they're on sale or not new releases), and then a bunch of people can watch it, and I can watch it again and again.

      For many of us, paying to see a movie in the theater hasn't been cost effective in a decade. And having your own home theater setup isn't like it's that difficult these days. So it's hardly the domain of rich folks with huge houses.

      So, yeah, I think it's been about 18-24 months since the last one I saw in the actual movie theater

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    14. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

      In NY usually way too cold with the AC cranked up high so you have to bring additional clothing especially in summer (!), lousy picture quality, awful sound engineering (usually too loud), age inappropriate ads, seemingly endless trailers for other shit films, bag search before entry (no food except concession food allowed in) - shite experience. No need to ever do it again. $12+ admission?

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    15. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

      I buy my tickets online, but even when I don't I can't count the last time it took me 30 minutes to get a movie ticket. I go to the movies around 5-8 times a month and generally have a great time. Dont' know what bug crawled up your ass.

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    16. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Mr_Silver · · Score: 1

      Waiting half an hour to buy a ticket for about ten bucks, then suffering for 3 hours in 100+ degrees heat to ensure you need to buy something to drink, sitting and standing in the leftovers of the previous show and getting to choose to either not understanding any dialogue or getting a tinnitus from explosions and music (or rather, having that choice being made for you)...

      I went to see Gone Girl in a UK cinema a couple of weeks ago. Ticket and food purchases were quick (although shockingly expensive), there was no queuing, toilets were clean, cinema was warm and clean, patrons talked quietly until after the adverts ended, no-one's phone rang, no-one took out their phone and started browsing facebook, no-one talked over the film and the volume was set at a comfortable level.

      The only time I've had a bad experience was twice and I go to the cinema about twice a month. One about 3 years ago where the air conditioning was going nuts and it was way too cold and one about 9 years ago where some kids talked throughout the film.

      Why is the cinema experience in America so utterly miserable?

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    17. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 5, Funny

      Waiting half an hour to buy a ticket for about ten bucks, then suffering for 3 hours in 100+ degrees heat

      We should go see the Wizard of Oz to add some more strawman to this argument.

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    18. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by timeOday · · Score: 1

      "Anyone still going to the movies?" Answer: yes.

    19. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      No, sorry, it is not. It's the same crap as with those "super big" popcorn boxes which are only a dollar more than the small size, which is nothing but a cheap trick to keep you from realizing that 8 bucks is too fucking much even for a "big" box of popcorn.

      "Just a dollar more" for a decent movie experience "only" means that you'd have to pay more for a 3 hour movie than for a month of an online game subscription (or 10-15 empty BluRay discs if that's more your thing).

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    20. Re: Anyone still going to the movies? by Redmancometh · · Score: 1

      Yeah even amc 24 (in a good area) in Houston which is shit..doesnt smell..3min for a ticket, is cold as fuck, and has reasonable volume....but $12 cokes and $15 popcorn.

      Movie tavern is amazing, reasonably priced food (REAL food - full meals), a full bar, and plush-ish office chair seating.

      Where do you live? Ukraine?

    21. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by ogdenk · · Score: 1

      Seriously? Anyone still masochist enough for that "authentic experience"?

      Nope, I either wait for a DVD release or I acquire it through other means if I want HD quality as I refuse to ever own a BluRay player.

    22. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last movie I went to we bought tickets well in advance with dedicated seating in couch-like recliners, had direct to seat waiter service and a full bar. Even had the option for pillows, blankets and a heated towel. Sure it was $18 a person, but as with most things in life, you get what you pay for.

    23. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 1

      I'm usually suffering from hypothermia by the end of the movie. I do agree with the tinnitus though.

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    24. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are going to the wrong theater. The Superlux near me has full reclining barcaloungers, pick-your-own assigned seating, full food/drink/bar service to your seat, and a no kids policy. It's only about $10 more than regular theater prices on a Friday/Saturday night.

      It has made theaters fun again.

    25. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      There's a handful of movies I still want to see in the cinema ... lately, mostly stuff put out by Marvel and other blockbusters.

      Too true. I often decide whether to watch a movie at a theater based on whether that venue would add to the experience vs. watching at home, even with a large-screen TV an surround sound. Some movies are not really any "better" in a theater.

      On the other hand, take Gravity for example. Watching that at home on Bluray is *not* the same as in the theater - or, especially, IMAX. Seriously, If you didn't see *that* in a real IMAX theater, you missed out.

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    26. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Immerman · · Score: 1

      I'm mostly inclined to agree, but every once in a long while something comes out that's actually worth watching on the big screen with a high-end sound system. In which case paying a little extra so that the rest of the experience doesn't suck is absolutely worth it.

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    27. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Thanks, you made my morning.

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    28. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Immerman · · Score: 1

      >Why is the cinema experience in America so utterly miserable?

      Politeness has gone out of fashion. The business owners aren't polite enough to deliver more than the bear minimum experience necessary to get your money, and enough of the audience members to ruin the movie aren't even polite enough to eat neatly and remain dark and quiet enough to avoid ruining the experience for everyone else. After all the world is all about ME.

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    29. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by TigerPlish · · Score: 1

      Where are these mythical places?

      Muvico.

      Cinemark.

      Regal (some)

      And now I will call one out by name, because it is especially deserving of shame: Frank' Theaters, you have to go. You're a grindhouse. All your theaters are grindhouses. Shrivel and die already. Mountains of dust on the aperture plate. Head-to-tail scratches on the print. I saw an employee go from one room to another with an entire print draped like a bandolier, without clamps. Good thing digital has rendered the incompetent projectionist obsolete (and sadly put many a good projectionist out of biz.)

      Don't have any decent ones around you? Get in your car, catch a bus, whatever -- and go to a decent moviehouse.

      I drive 20 miles to go to Muvico. And I do it without complaint.

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    30. Re: Anyone still going to the movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably just out in East Bumfuck...

    31. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      I can't do IMAX ... it makes me want to hurl. The vertigo almost kills me. I can't do 3D, it gives me a splitting headache which lasts for hours.

      I can only imagine the projectile vomiting which would be triggered by 3D IMAX. Not something I want to experience.

      Gravity was one of those movies which scared the bejeezus out of me and kept me at a level of stress at a pretty constant rate for the movie. But I'm also glad I could pause it.

      It was an absolutely awesome movie, but it's hard to be that jacked up and tense for that long without a pause. There's very few movies which I feel physically fatigued after watching, but that was definitely one.

      I've largely decided that my 55" TV is perfectly OK for my viewing needs. My seating is better, I can have a beer, and my wife can get me to pause it for bathroom breaks. I can have 5 people sitting in recliners watching a movie ... I don't need much else.

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    32. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its been many years since I went to a movie theater, but it was clean, the temperature was comfortable, the sound levels were set correctly, and there was no wait ti get a ticket. Since then, I just wait for the DVD. Seriously? $10 to get in, another $6-8 for a drink and popcorn? For that I can buy the DVD (NOT blu-ray!)and watch it in the comfort of my own home where I control the temperature, sound level, and keep drinks and snacks on hand anyway. Oh, and if I have to use the bathroom, I can pause the DVD!

    33. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by TigerPlish · · Score: 1

      With modern technology you can have a decent enough experience without the theater. Huge screens, projectors, surround-sound, etc is all available and relatively affordable by normal people these days. Sure, you're not going to get iMAX at home easily but it's good enough to make the effort of going out not worth it.

      Problem with this is, most people I know won't make the commitment that it takes to make a nice home cinema. Not a fancy one -- just a technically accomplished one.

      What does it take?

      0. Absolute light control. No windows, no shutters, no blinds, no light.
      1. Black ceiling and front wall
      2. Dark-ish side and back walls -- the room should have as little light reflection as possible.
      3. A fixed screen of half the height of viewing distance, placed high up coupled with chairs with a good deal of gangsta lean. (so if you sit 8-9 ft away from the screen, the screen should be 4 ft tall, which works to about 7 ft wide. This is what I have.)
      4. 3 IDENTICAL channels up front -- not two big "mains" and a ridiculously tiny "center." You need three of the same speaker up front
      5. Surrounds identical to the front (or at least from the same family)
      6. Properly calibrate all that mess.
      7. Shelving to store physical media and display figures, models, whatever.
      8. Lighting with a remote dimmer to light all those toys and things -- narrow spots, for the most part. That means low-voltage MR16 heads, and that means more $ and more commitment.
      Still think the avg. homeowner can do all that?

      I did, It took me 3 months of after-work labor just to paint and wire and carpet. All my audio gear is 10+ years old, some of it sourced from Craigslist. None of it is what people would cal hi-end. But it all works, and I can throw a better picture than a badly-ran theater. I'm particularly proud of my audio, which uses horn speakers, letting me get outrageous fidelity and almost unlimited headroom. Bring on the ka-boom. .

      But none of my friends will do it, none of my coworkers will. All they want is a stupid TV with speakers haphazardly strewn about. To them that's good enough. And I bet you 90% of people think the same way.

      It takes commitment and a certain degree of crazy to make a proper home cinema.

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    34. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Waiting half an hour to buy a ticket for about ten bucks, then suffering for 3 hours in 100+ degrees heat to ensure you need to buy something to drink, sitting and standing in the leftovers of the previous show and getting to choose to either not understanding any dialogue or getting a tinnitus from explosions and music (or rather, having that choice being made for you)...

      Out of interest, in which city do you go to the cinema in? It sounds like you might be an inhabitant of Dis. London, while it has some superficial similarities is not nearly as bad.

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    35. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by synapse7 · · Score: 1

      My favorite part is paying $13.50(maybe higher now, its been years since I've been) for stale popcorn and watered down pop.

    36. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by bitflusher · · Score: 1

      As a group we visit the local cinema almost every week. Two things that help make this a good experience is 1. wednesdays are almost always quiet. 2. my local theater invests quite a lot to keep up. Digital projectors from an early generation are already replaced by new ones, the sound system has always been high quality and has now been replaced by dolby 7.1 on half of the "rooms" (don't know the correct english word). We are still lobbying HFR but this seems one investment not worth it due to the lack of content Sometimes when i visit an other cinema the experience is indeed horrible.

    37. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most of us neither live in Hell nor Dallas. Have you checked to make sure your life insurance policy hasn't been paid off?

    38. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where are these mythical places? The places that care whether their rooms smell like the average high school locker room where they don't have to use some sort of artificial butter because even REAL butter would stay liquid? With a sound system operated by someone who isn't just subscribing to the "one knob is all you need to adjust it" philosophy (or who knows what the others are there for)?

      Seriously, you get what you pay for, and movie theater employees don't tend to be among the best paid ones...

      Here's the closest one to where I live:
      link

      Generally Warren theaters are very nice, but this one dis-allows kids in the evening shows, has a bar, provides food/drink service to your seat (that's real "restaurant" food and alcohol, not nuclear orange nachos and oil-covered popcorn), and in general, is very clean and well organized. Its like 2 or 3 bucks a ticket more expensive than the lousy theatres.

    39. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by bkr1_2k · · Score: 1

      You obviously don't live in the DC metro area. Of the 20 or 30 theaters I've been to in the area, I think maybe 5 have been even remotely like your descriptions. Most are doing everything they can to improve the experience, including extra wide recliner seats, better (though expensive) food options, better sound, better theater sizing, and a bunch of other "improvements".

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    40. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by westlake · · Score: 1

      Seriously? Anyone still masochist enough for that "authentic experience"?

      Frozen grossed $1.3 billion as a first-run theatrical feature. Late in its run, Frozen sing-alongs were very successful.

      Guardians of the Galaxy just might slip past an $800 million gross in global release. Guardians was considered as unlikely a box office hit as the first Star Wars film --- and targets essentially the same audience.

      Guardians' geek credentials are impeccable:

      Guardians of the Galaxy soundtrack coming out on cassette: Now you can listen to the music the same way Star-Lord does.

    41. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "all the idiots with their phones on"

      My favorite was the jerk with a laser pointer that it took about 15 minutes of people complaining to get him removed from the theater.

    42. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by nabsltd · · Score: 1

      3 IDENTICAL channels up front -- not two big "mains" and a ridiculously tiny "center." You need three of the same speaker up front

      5. Surrounds identical to the front (or at least from the same family)

      This isn't really necessary anymore. With DSP technology, I can have my A/V receiver match the rest of the speakers to any I pick as a reference. It's scary to hear how good it does, because the horn-loaded mains sound very different from the other speakers. I just have the system adjust everything to flat response, and it evens everything out.

      All my surround speakers are matched, and I'll eventually match the front 3 to the rears, but it's not a priority right now.

      All my audio gear is 10+ years old, some of it sourced from Craigslist.

      How do you do multi-channel sound with hardware that doesn't understand any of the newer codecs? I know it's possible to run 7 analog cables from a device to the amp, but most amps have at most one such input. Even with in-device decoding and HDMI for PCM transport, I had to update to a A/V receiver with more HDMI inputs because many newer devices don't have any other output, and there's no way 10-year-old hardware will understand a new enough HDMI standard to work with new devices.

      It takes commitment and a certain degree of crazy to make a proper home cinema.

      I've been doing it for 28 years now (laserdisc & matrixed surround sound back then), so it's either become normal or is way past crazy.

    43. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by fnj · · Score: 1

      For the love of god, just rip the blu-ray to a file. That's what I do.

    44. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by fnj · · Score: 1

      I flat out don't believe anyone is stupid enough to go to any movie theater nowadays. You get a 10 times better picture and sound at home, you can hit pause any time for as long as you want, there are no scum of the earth making noise and disturbance, you don't have to smell popcorn unless that is YOUR choice.

    45. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by fnj · · Score: 1

      Yeah, there's sure nothing like an empty blu-ray disc.

    46. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Pubstar · · Score: 1

      Well unless you live with shitty roommates.

    47. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always take a pair of hearing protectors to any action/adventure movies I go to, to protect what is left of my hearing after a youth that included many nights in the 2nd or 3rd row of Grateful Dead concerts, and lots of handgun shooting before their danger to hearing was fully understood.

    48. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by TigerPlish · · Score: 1

      How do you do multi-channel sound with hardware that doesn't understand any of the newer codecs?

      Easy. I only have two sources: A DVD player and a Bluray player. Each uses toslink optical to the receiver, and component video to the receiver. Then from the receiver to the projector there's one long component cable.

      The receiver I have understands Dolby Digital, DTS, Dolby ProLogic and DTS Neo 6. Enough for my needs.

      The curtain is about to close on my current receiver.. I will soon need HDMI because the MPAA cowed the manufacturers into taking hi-rez component video out of the picture. Any new sources I buy / build will likley lack component out. Thank you MPAA for forcing an unwanted upgrade. The Panasonic XR-55 I use is a freakish thing possesed of a most sweet sound. The encouraging thing is that anything made in the last 10 or so years will sound just as good.. it's not like the dark ages of the 70's 80's and 90;s.. back then you wanted good sound, you used tubes. After the invention of the digital "amp," great sound is within everyone's reach.

      You just need the speakers to let all that good sound out... and that's where the horns come in.

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    49. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Lord of the Rings, in Phoenix, AZ, on a day when the air conditioning was down?

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    50. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      Waiting a half hour to buy a ticket?! Have you ever heard of the Internet? You don't even have to print out the ticket any more, you can show the e-ticket on your cell phone.

      Just wow. A thread whining about not being able use augmented reality glasses in a theater complaining about standing in line for movie tickets. Online movie tickets isn't even a new thing, it's been around for a decade now.

      (not to mention the silliness about 100+ degree heat - you must go to the only movie theater in the US without the usual nuclear powered AC. That's the reason many people actually *go* to the theater in the summer...)

    51. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I felt that way about movies theatres as well...probably going to maybe 1 movie every 3 years when my friends just "had" to see something in the theatre. I dreaded it. However, since moving and finding Alamo Drafthouse, my opinion has completely changed. I love going to the movies now. If you're lucky enough to live close to one, I recommend you check it out. http://drafthouse.com/austin

    52. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by luther349 · · Score: 1

      actually no i went to one recently the place was a ghost town. i was the only guy there watching the movie.

    53. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      Waiting half an hour to buy a ticket for about ten bucks, then suffering for 3 hours in 100+ degrees heat to ensure you need to buy something to drink

      What country do you live in?
      I haven't had an experience like that since I was a kid in the 1960's.

    54. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I go to the movies around 5-8 times a month and generally have a great time. Dont' know what bug crawled up your ass.

      I go about that many times a year. Last time I had to wait more than 30 minutes was when a new feature was opening *and* there was some special feature in another cinema. That was crowded. But, it's occasionally nice to stand in line and end up striking up a conversation with other cinema goers who tend to have similar interests (at least in films).

      Other than that, it's walk in, walk up to counter, order ticket, receive ticket, wonder if my watch (without a seconds hand) has stopped.

    55. Re:Anyone still going to the movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Naughty boy. You didn't have to cherry-pick to make a valid point (like other posters have) that many people prefer the home cinema experience now.

  16. Go ahead, restrict yourself out of business by iamacat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They could have embraced new technology by releasing a multi-language subtitles glass app. Instead, they further alienate people to combat an unrealistic threat. Early gadget adopters may not be numerous, but they have outsized influence in creating trends. In this case, trends towards not going to movie theaters.

    1. Re:Go ahead, restrict yourself out of business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What trends have google glass users started? What, being a new type of entitled asshole? Please educate us. because I haven't heard anything good about any of the "ambassadors" yet.

    2. Re:Go ahead, restrict yourself out of business by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      Early gadget adopters may not be numerous, but they have outsized influence in creating trends.

      And very nice home theather systems...

    3. Re:Go ahead, restrict yourself out of business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think perhaps you're overestimating the influence of Glass users - if anything, response from the general public has been mistrustful, if not outright hostile, and I wouldn't expect the public to jump to a boycott of movie theaters to support a small minority who have already made a bad impression by mounting cameras to their face that may or may not be surreptitiously recording everyone around them. If anything, I'd expect public opinion to favor a ban on Glass, so that patrons who want to watch (and listen) to the movie they paid to see aren't distracted by someone next to them saying "ok Glass" every 30 seconds.

    4. Re:Go ahead, restrict yourself out of business by MacTO · · Score: 1

      That is actually a very good idea, and it is something that I would appreciate given that I sometimes have difficulty hearing dialogue over background noise.

      However, that would also entail some sort of arrangement between device manufacturers and theaters since the only way it's going to happen is if they're guaranteed that the device cannot record audio and video in the theater. While I'm not against that in principle, I am against it in practice. (Telling a device, "no recording," is one thing. The layers of malware that they'd layer on top of that, and resulting loss of control of the device both inside and outside of theaters, makes me jittery to the point of paranoia.)

    5. Re:Go ahead, restrict yourself out of business by excelsior_gr · · Score: 1

      Alas, the largest non-enlish-speaking markets all dubb the Hollywood films, and the english-speaking markets don't have much interest in non-english films. Such an app, although cool and much needed, has a very small market.

    6. Re:Go ahead, restrict yourself out of business by iamacat · · Score: 1

      Do you think Silicon Valley is not an important market? English is a second language for half the folks here, and frankly many movies are noisy enough that native speakers with perfect hearing can't follow the dialog.

    7. Re:Go ahead, restrict yourself out of business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "someone next to them saying "ok Glass" every 30 seconds."

      Yeah, that sounds like a realistic scenario...

    8. Re:Go ahead, restrict yourself out of business by iamacat · · Score: 1

      They are taking the flak so you don't have to when gadgets come down in price and social etiquette is established.

    9. Re:Go ahead, restrict yourself out of business by Svartalf · · Score: 1

      You should've went for the gold and said... "Being a Glasshole?"

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    10. Re:Go ahead, restrict yourself out of business by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Alternately they could radio-shield the theater - which is something some opera houses and the like are actually doing. Wouldn't stop devices that carried their own considerable storage, but those depending on "the cloud" would be castrated (and really, in an age where the leaked film typically hits the pirate sites before the grand opening, why does anyone even bother filming? To say nothing of why do the publishers care. Inertia I suppose.) Plus it would have the added benefit of making it impossible for anyone to talk on their phones without first leaving the room.

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    11. Re:Go ahead, restrict yourself out of business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As someone who's a Glass owner and is hard of hearing, even an English subtitles app for Glass would be appreciated.

  17. Not a Fan of Google Glass, But... by Anonymous+CowWord · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, fuck them! How dare they try to protect themselves from theft on PRIVATE property that no one is REQUIRED to go to. Fuck them indeed.

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  18. Glass-pirated movies by MoronGames · · Score: 1

    Is there even a market for movies pirated using a Google glass? Seems like it would be one of the most shaky, poor quality videos in existence. I've seen some actual "cam" movies before and even those were very difficult to watch. I'm thinking the only loss in profits they're going to be seeing from Google glass users is that a lot of them will no longer come to see movies in theaters

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    1. Re:Glass-pirated movies by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      Really? someone would be so unwilling to remove their (turned off) glass that they would rather miss the movie?
      If thats true then there's a much deeper problem than the theater rules here.

    2. Re:Glass-pirated movies by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      If that's their only pair of prescription glasses, then yes, they would be so unwilling to remove their eyeglasses that they'd rather miss the movie.

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  19. Do the MPAA have any actual say on this? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    The Motion Picture Association of America, along with the National Association of Theater Owners, have banned Google Glass and similar devices from being in movie theaters.

    It reads like the MPAA are the ones mainly doing the banning, but I'm curious to know if they actually have any real power in the matter, or whether it really all lies with the National Association of Theater Owners.

    If a theatre isn't part of NATO (hah) will they still have to follow the MPAA's ruling on this?

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    1. Re:Do the MPAA have any actual say on this? by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      Even NATO members are not required to follow the policy:

      Despite the voluntary nature of the ban, NATO — yes, the theater owners group calls itself NATO — expects most of its 32,000 theaters will adopt the policy.

    2. Re:Do the MPAA have any actual say on this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The MPAA is funded by and represents the (major) studios; it has three missions: 1) control distribution of movies, 2) combat copyright infringement, and 3) administer film ratings. If a theaters does not like the contract, they don't get the content.

    3. Re:Do the MPAA have any actual say on this? by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 1

      No nukes near my sunglass hut.

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  20. Just don't go to the movies. by MarkvW · · Score: 0

    Why go? The MPAA is a fierce advocate for repressive copyright restrictions. If you stop going to the movies, you stop their money.

    Besides, almost every movie in the theaters is an expensive imitative mess.

    The "movie industry" should die. We'll do much better with a wide array of cheaply made productions.

    1. Re:Just don't go to the movies. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why go? The MPAA is a fierce advocate for repressive copyright restrictions. If you stop going to the movies, you stop their money.

      Besides, almost every movie in the theaters is an expensive imitative mess.

      The "movie industry" should die. We'll do much better with a wide array of cheaply made productions.

      I agree with almost everything you say. Movies nowadays are shit. They have no epic scope, no plot no nothing exception explosions. Not worth the money. The good thing is that while movies go down the shithole, tv productions (not reality shows) are delivering what movies use to deliver 30+ years ago. I haven't gone to the cinema in over a decade and don't feel like I've lost something.

  21. Haha... by jonr · · Score: 1

    I don't even spend my precious bandwidth on camera recorded movies... But if some MPAA lawyer want's make his job look more important, then kudos for him...

  22. Distinction between MPAA and movie theaters by dumky2 · · Score: 1

    The MPAA does not have a magic wand to "ban" something, they only have contracts and laws. The article does not mention any new legislation to this effect, so I'm guessing they are relying on the former mechanism.
    But how many movie theaters are part of the MPAA club and therefore subject to this decision?

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  23. I suppose this means... by swschrad · · Score: 3, Funny

    that I can't bring my 70mm camera and tripod in, and can no longer tap into the theater sound, either. what a bunch of spoilsports!

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    1. Re:I suppose this means... by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sure you can. Just slip the projector girl $20 and you're golden. They're paid so poorly, they're probably let you set the theater on fire for another $10.

    2. Re:I suppose this means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hate to spoil your little fantasy, but there are no more projector operators in modern cinemas.

    3. Re:I suppose this means... by Frobnicator · · Score: 1

      Sure you can. Just slip the projector girl $20 and you're golden

      I've known projector operators who would do it for free.

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    4. Re:I suppose this means... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Pirates have been known to tap into theater sound. Use the induction loop for hearing aids. You only get mono, but it's still better than the background noise of the audience shuffling, eating and chatting.

    5. Re: I suppose this means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are very few projection oporators left because there are very few analog projectors being used. There are some here and there. Just like drive ins, they are slowly disapearing.

  24. Screw the cinema by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1, Informative

    Last time I tried to go to a film with my sons they wouldn't let me bring in my own bottle of water. Got a refund and I'm never going back. I don't need to go to the cinema. I get the lame ass films for free if I want. But these days since their output is so bad I don't even bother. Some time in the future it will be mandated that your eyes be gouged out and your ears deafened before you enter the theatre. Three cheers for the MPAA! Sieg...

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    1. Re: Screw the cinema by Redmancometh · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You dissapointed your sons over a bottle of water? When there are signs saying no outside food or drinks?

      You might be an asshole.

    2. Re: Screw the cinema by oldmac31310 · · Score: 0

      You are an unprincipled cunt.

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    3. Re: Screw the cinema by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you don't teach 'em restraint and dealing with disappointment early, they'll turn into, well, a millennial.

    4. Re: Screw the cinema by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That may be so. The other poster was right though.

      "Falling Down" isn't supposed to teach you how to be a good father.

    5. Re: Screw the cinema by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

      I suppose you are being a smart arse, but drinking water is a basic human right and if I can't bring a bottle of my own tap water into a premises then the business that has such a policy can go to hell. And I'm happy to teach my kids to think in this principled way. Having bought the overpriced ticket I am under no obligation to buy their bottled water or food which cost way more than they would in an overpriced shop. Fuck you very much.

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    6. Re:Screw the cinema by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last time I tried to go to a film with my sons they wouldn't let me bring in my own bottle of water. Got a refund and I'm never going back. I don't need to go to the cinema. I get the lame ass films for free if I want. But these days since their output is so bad I don't even bother. Some time in the future it will be mandated that your eyes be gouged out and your ears deafened before you enter the theatre. Three cheers for the MPAA! Sieg...

      You honestly didn't know that bringing in your own food and drink is not allowed in movie theaters? It's been like that for as long as I can remember (then again I'm only 30) so I just hide a few snacks and a drink in my (or my SO's) pocket/bag/etc. to smuggle them in and that way I can have what I like (hooray for cashews and beer!) and still pay less. Alternatively you can just arrive hydrated and fed and not worry about it.

      On the other hand, if you wanted to complain about the advertisements that play for half an hour before even the previews start then I completely understand. This happened to me while in the UK a few years ago and that was the first and last movie I saw there.

    7. Re:Screw the cinema by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      Here in AZ its acutally illegal for any public establishment to not provide you with free water if you ask for it.

    8. Re: Screw the cinema by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      I have never in my life seen a movie theater without a drinking fountain in the lobby. Go to a different theater.
      How are they supposed to tell it's not vodka? While I applaud your decision to stay at home and watch movies on TV for whatever reason, if you switch to pirated versions you lose all grounds for your moral stance.

    9. Re: Screw the cinema by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most places dont count 'water' as outside food unless they want to be really scummy.

      Gouging you $12 for a coke which is like 99% water and 1% "other" seems a touch high considering how much water you can get for $12.

      Ever heard of standing up for principals you believe in?

    10. Re: Screw the cinema by swillden · · Score: 1

      So take an empty bottle and fill it at their drinking fountain.

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    11. Re: Screw the cinema by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      >> drinking water is a basic human right ...as is their right to deny you entry to their premises.

    12. Re: Screw the cinema by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

      Jeez, another idiot.

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    13. Re:Screw the cinema by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jeez, have you ever been to a movie theater before? They make slim margins on ticket sales and make up the rest in food prices. Why would you think they would allow outside food and drink? This has been the rules since pretty much forever everywhere. Pirating movies isn't exactly the correct response to not being able to bring in your water bottle.

    14. Re: Screw the cinema by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG, won't somebody think of the children?

    15. Re: Screw the cinema by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So is the theater.
      $6.00 soda is insane.

  25. Oh yeah by sootman · · Score: 1

    Because "cams" are so great, the only thing better would be one that included EVERY SINGLE MOVEMENT OF THE WEARER'S HEAD. Fucking A.

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  26. Given advancements in technology... by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 1

    In a few years the miniaturization of components is going to make this difficult if not impossible to enforce. If you can't distinguish a regular pair of glasses from these devices...

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  27. Where are you going? by sjbe · · Score: 1

    Waiting half an hour to buy a ticket for about ten bucks

    I have NEVER waited more than about 5 minutes for a movie ticket ever. Not once in over 40 years.

    then suffering for 3 hours in 100+ degrees heat

    Ohh bullshit. Movie theaters are almost always too cold if anything.

    Anyone still masochist enough for that "authentic experience"?

    We can talk about it when you actually describe one. I get people not liking the experience at a movie theater but it's nothing like the nonsense you were claiming.

  28. Can Google Glass record for 2 hours on one charge? by KeithJM · · Score: 1

    Quite apart from how horrible it would be to try to watch a movie recorded by a camera the width of a matchstick that's strapped to a person's head while they watch the movie, does Google Glass even have the battery life to record a full movie? It seems like this is a symbolic gesture by the MPAA. I get that long-term battery life will probably improve, but why not wait until something is actually a problem before sending out press releases that might annoy your customers?

  29. Anyone still going to the movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In fairness I havn't been to a theater in about a decade. If a movie looks decent I'll just wait for the DVD/Blueray.

  30. Americans With Disabilities Act by Mr_Wisenheimer · · Score: 1

    While Google Glass is not an FDA approved medical device, it can contain medical devices such as prescription lenses.

    Additionally, it is used by people suffering from various medical conditions as an assistive device.

    Not only do they run the risk of being sued for discriminating against those with disabilities, but it seems unlikely that someone intent on pirating movies would choose to wear expensive, conspicuous Google glasses with their bright-red "record" LED on the front when there are much cheaper and discrete options for glasses embedded with high resolution cameras designed to record video.

    1. Re:Americans With Disabilities Act by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 1

      Allow me to play devil's advocate for a minute.

      You say Google Glass may contain medical devices, and as such should be protected by the ADA. If you tell someone to take off their Google Glass (w/ presecription lenses), you're discriminating against those with disabilities. Now, what if someone with a legitimate leg injury comes to the theater using a massive dildo as a cane. Can't turn them away either? What about if I glue prescription lenses to my dick and my girlfriend holds it in front of her eyes, using the whole apparatus instead of ordinary eyeglasses. Can't turn that away either? I mean, surely there's a line that gets drawn at some point. IANAL, but I'd imagine stuff like this ends up before a judge at some point. And to my dismay, judges have quite a bit of leeway in their interpretation of laws.

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    2. Re:Americans With Disabilities Act by Mr_Wisenheimer · · Score: 1

      The line is defined as "reasonable accommodation". As long as an accommodation does not impose a disproportionate or undue burden, it must be made.

      It would be hard for me to believe that accommodating someone using a pair of Google glasses to assist them with their disability would impose an undue burden on a movie theater.

    3. Re:Americans With Disabilities Act by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The red record light can be disabled. You can't rely on that.

  31. More proof they are morons. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    Google Glass even when heavily modified cant record more than a couple of minutes. Are these people complete morons?

    They should ban the Samsung top of the line Smartwatch as it has a camera on it ZOMG!!!! it can be used to violate the precioussssssss.....

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  32. Out by tsa · · Score: 1

    I have the impression that Google Glass is already 'out' before it's even being sold.

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  33. Wait until they sell MPAA-approved eyewear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another aspect is that the MPAA sees a business opportunity, so they first need to ban usage in theatres until they have worked out deals for selling their own versions of the product. Thereafter, only MPAA-approved gadgets will be allowed "to further the enjoyment of their customers."

  34. About the "future" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...the ban is geared toward combating more sophisticated wearables in the future..."

    You mean like... devices that could interface directly with human optic nerves and visual cortex? Would love to find out how they would combat that.

    1. Re:About the "future" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

  35. How about actively limiting phone use? by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 2

    we paid money to watch a movie and are instead distracted by the texting and one-sided phone conversations.

    Texting wouldn't be so bad if they just mute the damn alert tone and stop reading their texts out loud.

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    1. Re:How about actively limiting phone use? by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      Actually Its the screen backlight that bugs me the most.

    2. Re:How about actively limiting phone use? by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 1

      Yea that too.. but let's get them to stay quiet first. One step at a time... ;)

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    3. Re:How about actively limiting phone use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, the massive 'spotlight' coming from their phone is just as bad.

    4. Re:How about actively limiting phone use? by luther349 · · Score: 1

      hit a late showing in the middle of the week you will be all alone.

    5. Re:How about actively limiting phone use? by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      I like to throw popcorn at people that continue to disturb movies.
      If they ever say anything, I respond with
      Oh so you want me to stop being antisocial?"

  36. Next Time I go to the movies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...I'll use my Epson Movario BT200 then as my eyeglasses of choice. Hey - they banned Google glass, not other products that do the same thing and more.

  37. Where are you going? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Glad to see that neither of you are slinging massive over-generalizations....

  38. Easy fix by RevWaldo · · Score: 1

    Scan for copyrighted material while in record. Emit continuous high pitched screech through bone conductor speaker if in violation.

    .

    1. Re:Easy fix by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      oooh thats a cool idea!

  39. The anti-piracy ads were enough for me by xtal · · Score: 1

    Haven't been to a movie in over 10 years.

    I do have a very nice home theater; I'm guessing over that span it was cheaper.

    Hope the theater operators enjoy the grave the MPAA is helping them dig. They can get cozy with the cable operators next door..

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  40. A Positive Step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now we just need to ban google glass everywhere else.

    Fuck the glassholes, fuck every last one of em.

  41. Re:Can Google Glass record for 2 hours on one char by hawkeyeMI · · Score: 1

    It would require an external battery pack (very possible) and an asbestos pad between the glass and the wearer's head. It actually would probably shut down from overheating. It doesn't like running and charging at the same time, and I think recording that much video would overheat it anyway.

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  42. Augmented Memory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are they going to do when this augmented memory technology is embedded onto our bodies? The MPAA continues to fail to understand the future.

  43. I doubt they lose ANY revenue. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So lets see what evidence we have.

    Given Hollywood accounting means no movie ever makes a profit, whether cam'd or not, this appears to show that they lose no profits from anything outside.

    Bugger all evidence from you.

    So HOW THE FUCK do you come up with the "thought" that they would lose money???

  44. Dear MPAA by Jawnn · · Score: 1

    Get a fucking clue. Your revenues aren't what you want them to be because you don't enforce any of the "common courtesy" rules in your theaters. Talkers, texters, and lately, vapers, have ruined my experience every time I've visited one of your mainstream theaters. With an arguably superior presentation platform available in my house, why would I pay good money to be annoyed throughout the movie in your theater?

  45. What about prescription corrective Glass? by rsborg · · Score: 1

    You got mislead by the trollish title. They didn't ban people from bringing in a Google Glass, you just have to put it away and not wear/use it during the movie. Just like a cellphone. The theaters forbid you from holding up your cellphone and recording currently also.

    Those folks who happen to have foolishly put Google Glass onto a prescription set of corrective lenses (and not carry a non-Glass set) will no longer be able to enjoy the movie now. Whether the Glass user was wise to attach their device to prescription lenses is an question left for the reader.

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    1. Re:What about prescription corrective Glass? by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      Whether the Glass user was wise to attach their device to prescription lenses is an question left for the reader.

      What is their alternative? Attaching it to nonprescription lenses and then walking into walls repeatedly?

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  46. Not that I'm a Glass user by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    ...but FUCK YOU MPAA.
    $10 ticket, $10 popcorn, $10 soda to sit in shitty seats, have crappy sound, sticky floor to watch what's likely an execrable film for what, 90 minutes?

    No thanks.

    I'll either watch it at home, or if I *really* want that AUTHENTIC experience, I'll go to http://take-up.org/ where this group rents out otherwise-unused tiny (50 seat?) mid-20thC theaters iin Mpls neighborhoods to show 35mm projector classics on the Big Screen like Casablanca, Buckaroo Banzai, Yojimbo, or Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. $25 for 5 tickets, plus a concession stand that sells normal candy at decent prices AND Coca Cola with sugar.
    It's a great experience, and if it wasn't 40 miles from my house, I'd go multiple times/month.

    So truly, fuck the MPAA and their whole crew.

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    1. Re:Not that I'm a Glass user by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      In Seattle you can watch films as a member of Cinema Seattle for about $5 to $7, and you can buy cider, beer, wine, chai, and fruit & veggies for $2 to $4.

      Two theaters, one has three screens, including 3D digital HD, the other (Egyptian) has 35 mm film and digital HD. Actually, there's a secret third theater as well.

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    2. Re:Not that I'm a Glass user by itzly · · Score: 1

      $10 ticket, $10 popcorn, $10 soda

      You can't go a few hours without popcorn and soda ?

    3. Re:Not that I'm a Glass user by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      I'll take "completely missing the point" for $100, Chuck.

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  47. Who still goes to movies? by gelfling · · Score: 1

    I mean other than drunks and losers who can't find a babysitter. Fuck the MPAA fuck the movies fuck them all.

  48. This is an excellent choice by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Since someone wearing Google Glass will probably lead to me having a fistfight with them.

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  49. Burn baby, BURN! by TiggertheMad · · Score: 1

    actually $8.43, but don't ask how I know this.

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    1. Re:Burn baby, BURN! by Charliemopps · · Score: 1

      I've never met someone working in a theater making more than minimum wage. Are you including what you make in tripod fees?

    2. Re:Burn baby, BURN! by smellotron · · Score: 1

      I've never met someone working in a theater making more than minimum wage.

      Every projectionist that I've ever met has made more than minimum wage. They are worth paying well (better than the average theater employee, at least) because of the cost of mistakes.

  50. good by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

    This means there will be less shakey-cam dumps on Pirate Bay and more quality transfers.

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  51. Good luck MPAA by bkr1_2k · · Score: 1

    Since the MPAA doesn't pay the theater employees there's no chance in hell they're going to be able to enforce this any better than they do pre-existing recording technologies. Most people working at movie theaters wouldn't know what google glass is if it slapped them in the face. This is utter nonsense.

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  52. Google's Segway moment by rsborg · · Score: 1

    Segway did not consider the implications of being a pioneer in electric scooters and the mish-mash of local laws. Google is likewise pioneering more seamless wearable/camera based device, but didn't consider (or with hubris, thought they could muscle through) the implications of having folks walking around with cameras potentially on all the time. There isn't even any surefire way to be sure that a Glass user is or is not recording.

    The really frustrating part, is that I would really love Glass if I could only get a version that didn't have the camera. I don't want to be part of any panopticon, but having a heads-up display with latest emails, texts, weather (or hell, anything you might have on your lock screen widgets), etc - I'd have been all over that.

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  53. piracy is not a victimless crime by CoderFool · · Score: 1

    and neither is a $15 movie ticket, a $6 popcorn, a $5 drink, a $4 candy bar....

  54. The MPAA is in charge. by edibobb · · Score: 1

    The MPAA went on to mandate

    (1) Ebola workers must be quarantined, without access to internet, for 21 days after crossing any international border,

    (2) Those who abstain from visiting a movie theater for three or more consecutive months will be required to pay the MPAA a convenience fee $47 per month, and

    (3) P2P computer communications are banned. To facilitate enforcement, all TCP/IP packets will hereafter be routed through MPAA servers, where they may, at MPAA's option, be forwarded to their destination address.

  55. MPAA doesn't realize theaters are going extinct by uem-Tux · · Score: 1

    Honestly, who wants to go to a theatre? Dirty floors, uncomfortable seats, jerkass patrons, outrageous prices for food and tickets... My living room is 10x better than any theatre in town. The MPAA is as doomed as a dodo if they're spending their time making rules about electronics in theaters. Soon, movie releases will mean internet releases, and no DRM has yet been invented that wasn't eventually cracked, so they're going to have to figure out how to make money selling things other than content, and we all know how well they've been doing at that so far. Keep doing useless things MPAA, you're dooming yourselves and I'll be happy to see you go.

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  56. prescription lenses by neghvar1 · · Score: 1

    If a user has their Google Glass customized with prescription lenses, then forcing that user to remove the Google Glass in the theater or leave it in their car would violate the Americans with Disabilities Act and open the opportunity for a lawsuit against the theater and the MPAA

  57. The South shall rise again! by westlake · · Score: 1

    Copyright infringement is not theft. Stop referring to it as such.

    The geek has been fighting on this line since the days of the 300 baud dial-up modem. It plays well to his fellow geeks, but common usage ignores him.

    1. Re:The South shall rise again! by coolsnowmen · · Score: 1
      What? Common usage as influenced by the people who make money convincing you to think that way maybe...

      I believe in fair laws, and if you equate theft with copying you do society a disservice.

    2. Re:The South shall rise again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, so when I make a pizza at home that looks and tastes just like the pizza from Domino's, I'm committing theft? (copyright == theft) evaluates to false (westlake == fuckwit) evalutes to true, which is kind of sad for a six-digit

  58. ROFLMAO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and i think of all the cam vids out of the CHICOM-controlled world - the MPAA is full of retards for sure!

  59. I wonder by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

    Does anyone go to movies in theaters any more?

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  60. +1 epic by Zynder · · Score: 1

    I pissed myself reading this! Luckily I was sitting in the theater reading Slashdot so I didn't ruin my own chair *golfclap*

  61. Way to give in,show the man you wont back down! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But since you were with your bro's and ho's you went ahead and let them search your shit so you didn't look like a douchebag. Stickler my ass. You're a pussy plain and simple.

  62. MPAA despots needing psychiatric evaluation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This obsession over something as minor as recording a movie, is just utterly crazy. If someone wants to make a shaky recording, with a head mounted device, who cares? It isn't a crime (at least it isn't in countries that aren't corrupt).
    Clearly someone at the MPAA is needing a serious psychiatric evaluation.

  63. Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So MPAA is still abusing copyright to create artificial limitations to resource that by its nature is unlimited. Theres unlimited amount of culture out there.

    Personally i would rather see them lower movie ticket prices and stop making mega expensive movies that cost more then sending probe to mars for god sake.

    If movie costs more then sending science equipment to another planet, then there's definitely something wrong with budject of movie.

  64. with glass you cannot tell when recording by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do not pretend you have no idea why they are doing this. All the other recording devices you mention have to be pointed at the screen in an obvious way that makes it easy to see what you are doing with it. The glasses, on the other hand, are exactly in the same position whether they're recording or not.

    Most people are not bothered by someone walking around with a camera. They are however bothered by someone walking around with a camera pointed at them, even if it might or might not be recording.

    1. Re:with glass you cannot tell when recording by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 1

      I'm asking what the actual restriction is. Is pointing a smartphone at the screen (without actually recording anything) a violation of their policy or not?

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  65. Because of course this has worked so well before. by Lallo · · Score: 1

    Running from new technology and burying your head in the sand has worked so very well for the MPAA so far. That must be why they keep at it. It's so very effective!

  66. worked so well before. by Lallo · · Score: 1

    Burying your head in the sand, ignoring new technology has worked so well for the MPAA.