Auctioning these thing seems the height of irresponsibility. I wonder what legal ramifications there are for the Rail Corporation in releasing private information, (even if accidentally lost) to total strangers.
Concerning abandoned or lost property, generally the finder must attempt to locate the original owner (title owner), usually by way of handing the property over to the authorities so they can attempt to return it.
However, if the lost property is not claimed after a time, then it legally becomes the property of the finder, and the finder gains the right to claim ownership over the item, to everyone except the title owner and any other previous holder of the item.
If the item is not claimed at all, they then gain ownership with all the rights that entitles, including reselling the item.
I admit the addition of copyright law, concerning the actual data on the flash drive, might be an entirely different matter.
However the rail corp never copied the data on the drives, so they are not in violation of copyright. Property law says they own the drive and the data, so reselling the data is also allowed, as long as they didn't make a copy to keep after the sale is complete.
There might be a problem if the final buyer did copy and distribute the data, but that violation would be committed by the final buyer, not the rail corporation.
I donno what a simbad is, a friend of mine went around calling it "sinbad" like the sailor for a while. Which is probably a cooler name, at least in the US.
According to the documentation for the app that the web interface talks with:
SIMBAD is the acronym for: Set of I dentifications, M easurements and B ibliography for A stronomical D ata
Weird, it still doesn't work and keeps redirecting to the http version.
I actually ended up typing it by hand in IE initially, and after reading your reply tried typing it by hand in firefox too.
I dunno why slashdot hates me, but it doesn't want to give up the goods. I do have an account obviously, and I do not have advertisements disabled even though they give the option. I am not a paid/subscriber account though.
You are permanently depriving them of the time it took to produce the software, and their right to get paid for producing the software.
So you are claiming that since I have no need for your software, will not be using your software, will not be downloading or installing your software... That I am a theif because I deprived you of your time spent making it, and your right to make money by producing software?
In that case you owe me a few million dollars.
I just now wrote a Hello World program, and it's price I just set to 10 million. You state I have a RIGHT to be paid for this.
You best pay up, before I sue you for depriving me of my right to make money off my software., and for you stealing my time I spent writing it.
What? You don't want to pay me for the software you already said I have a RIGHT to be paid for, despite you not wanting it? Even after you claim you MUST compensate me for my time?
Oddly however, when I go to https://slashdot.org it redirects me to the http:// URL.
I even allowed slashdot in NoScript just in case, and still get the same behavior.
FireFox 3.6 still (Since the firefox v6-8 listing of my plug ins that are now incompatible is longer than the v8 feature list) Same in IE 9 with no add ins, although I never signed in my account from IE.
Is the SSL site still in testing/beta or something?
If you hate Google's products so much, why do you insist on continuing to type google.com into your browser and going there? You forcing the problem on yourself is the only way for your statements to be true.
If you don't want to be there, STOP going there.
The only thing more funny than Nelson taking a kids fist and using it to punch said kid in face, saying "Stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself!" -- Is people like you, who stand alone in a field punching yourself all on your own accord, and then complaining loudly about it.
Does ICANN offer any assistance with this matter? Can't they just yank the domain back?
Yup, there is a process for this. Unfortunately a bit slow, but better than nothing.
The registrar the domain is with now must provide proof the owner submitted it that can be challenged. No proof in 5 days, ICANN reverses the transfer.
At that point they have two weeks to argue that the transfer was not authentic. I believe a court order would cause the action to be taken immediately in reversing it, and ICANN states they will comply.
http://www.icann.org/en/transfers/ All the forms and the policy itself (Items 1-4 on that page) plus some FAQ's that mention this type of thing.
I've never had to do a transfer dispute, so am not sure if their policy matches reality, but there it is.
I thought about it, and while neither situation is pleasant or nice, I think the GPs idea is still an improvement, and yes should be required by law.
The world you are arguing for is that a company can choose to spend X on security, and when it turns out X=0 and so the chances of them being hacked are 100%, that company then does not have to deal with the consequences of their choice, but instead get to sue the person warning them that X=0 is a bad idea.
V!NCENT's idea of forcing a company to suffer the consequences of their poor choices is much better.
P.S. No one here but you mentioned taking that choice away from anyone, and enforcing security. The only topic at hand was who has to deal with the choices a company makes, the company, or some random person explaining the end result of those decisions.
By this definition aren't, how can they be classified as elements? Growing up, and being taught in school "elements cannot be broken down any further." If these elements are breaking down into other elements..wtf?
What school was this? And in what country?
Protons and Electrons were discovered just before the year 1900, by Ernest Rutherford. Neutrons were theorized then discovered two and three decades later respectively.
As long ago as 1945 was the first nuclear warhead testing detonation, which pretty much proved beyond any shadow of a doubt that atoms of elements can be split into smaller things. It made a news paper or two I think.
Anyone attempting to claim otherwise (Your school and teacher(s) included) is so embarrassingly wrong as to cast doubt on anything else they have claimed in life.
Unless you really are over 80 years old, and some how made it these past 60 odd years without learning a single new thing since school... In which case I feel really bad for you.
That's an interesting scheme but it's not very specific. If they stop updating the page, all you know is that they got a request. You have no idea if it was for your data or someone elses.
If they stop posting updates, then they got a request. The only safe assumption at that point is that ALL of their datais now compromised. Yours too.
Any other assumption would simply be foolish and dangerous to make.
While having out of date software is asking for troubles, lately with the thriving zero-day exploit market, even performing that task is not guaranteed to protect you.
It really requires nothing more than clicking the first link in Google.
Scary world. But aside that, you can't possibly blame the person using the web for a zero day (That's addressed to you Mr GP, not the parent)
That is why many new trademarks take the fanciful approach. It is hard to argue Google meant anything to anyone before the search company named themselves.
While your point remains solid and true, Google might not be the best example there.
Google is a play-on-misspelling of the word 'googol', which is the name of a number (10^100, or a 1 followed by 100 zeros)
Larry and Sergey choose that name (not their first choice of names) to signify the large amounts of information they wanted to provide to people.
Fun-Fact: The original name they picked for the search engine was "Back Rub", a play-on-words due to their rankings using back links to score higher in the results.
I'm not sure if they expected from the start for their search engine name to be used as a verb, but the possibilities for that original name are many and hilarious!
I would love a phone with those features. But I don't believe anything in that concept video will actually turn up on the new iPhone.
I still have a 3gs, and only skipped the 4 for recent budget changes. The 4s doesn't seem like a great step up from the 4, if I had to buy now.
But since my phones battery is still going strong, I'll hold off until at least the 5 is out either way.
If this one is true about the 4" screen, I might end up rethinking that, and just picking up a cheap used 4.
Short of waiting until launch day and being disappointed, there's not much harm to hope. Unfortunately with Apple, you can't make any plans ahead of time.
Of course, they do not actually have a Comedy section. Searching for Comedy only returns DVDs, not books.
Try walking into a music store and asking for their television section... What? Musicians don't watch TV?
One should not expect to find TVs in a music store. One should however expect to find books in a bookstore, although I can see how you could be confused...
After hitting submit too quick, I really wanted to add that I am not AT ALL implying the individual in the article should be thought of as simply misguided or to be felt bad for.
No no, he fucked up stupidly, and big time.
It was just that, unlike the parents implication, geeks/nerds should take pride in their ability, and resolve in you who are.
Hmm... isn't being a IT/Geek/Nerd pretty much Darwin Award material as itself?
Not since the 90s my friend;}
As geek/nerd is not passed down genetically, the trait has nothing to fear from Darwin. The funny thing about this trait is that it can pop up in anyone, even when neither of the parents share that trait. In fact in my experience all but one of my geek friends absolutely do not have geek parents. A fairly common random mutation.
just going to the console manufacturers. On the PC you keep a lot more of your profits. Console makers generally take 30% off the top. If they could get away with it they'd raise the price for the console version higher. Yes, I realize steam takes a cut, but it's in line with the mark up from a retailer. I've heard from some of the indies it's less.
The advantage to PC distribution is that you get a choice.
To sell on a console, as you say you must pay them their fee to do so.
To sell on a PC, you must do nothing. You can choose to use Steam, and pay them a fee to handle distribution and some marketing. You can also choose not to, and do all of that yourself.
There is no reason you can't choose to setup a website, provide a download, and handle your own "cd key" generation or whatever you want. You can even choose not to use DRM, another choice you are not given on the console market.
Likewise you can choose to do all of your marketing and advertising yourself.
One can argue if Steam provides more worth in marketing, advertising, and distribution, than they take in fees. But you get to have that argument. You can run the numbers and choose which ever option is better for you.
(Those companies who already have a name for themselves and some games released, likely have the infrastructure in place to distribute it, and already have a marketing team. Fresh startups on their first game likely have none of that and so Steam can be more cost effective)
In the console world, you don't get to choose. You must pay that consoles fees to even release your game. Then you must pay them for distribution (Be it on disc or downloadable.) They generally do not provide any marketing at all, which means you must pay for that too. A startup just doesn't have a chance.
just have the system scan for curse words. easier than detecting emotion, and probably more accurate to determine when people are hating the IVR.
You would be shocked at the number of IVR systems that currently do this. "Fuck" is the new "mash zero"
At least the ones I am forced to use on a regular basis most seem to support swear words as valid options. Or at least "fuck" and "shit", haven't tried any others. On the non-regular calls I only try this trick when my intent is to trigger "Press zero to speak with a representative", seems to be roughly 50% success rate in my semi-limited experiences.
The only system I can think of that did not support it was my last bank. However their system couldn't be interrupted with menu presses, so you had to wait until it was finished speaking or it would ignore touch tones. Also hitting zero did not take you to a human, but back to the main menu to start over. I'm pretty sure they purposely designed it to make you scream "fuck!" a lot and that was listed in the design requirements specified by the customer:P
In closing, hey Huntington if you're listening, you suck balls. For everyone else, give it a try next you need to press zero anyway. If nothing else, it's pretty amusing.
Anyone else find it disturbing that we are putting lasers on robots now? And putting them in space? It's like we're asking for Skynet to develop.
I realize that is in jest, but something to think about:
There is a wider difference between the rovers current software and a skynet like murder-bot, than there is between our current UAV drones and a skynet like murder-bot.
The UAV's can do 95% of the hunting down and targeting process all by itself. The only reason it can not fire on it's own is due to a design choice in software.
With a malicious reflashing of a UAV drone, the entire killing process can be automated and left on its own. Of course the larger risk is of another human doing this reprogramming, not so much skynet. But the threat of fully automated skynet like operation is technologically possible right now.
While I am not too optimistic about the feelings of a true AI towards humans after how we are likely to treat it, I would worry more of the intentions of the human who first pulls this one off...
Sellers of bottled water wanted to use that phrase as a selling point for bottled water. The EU decided that you could get the same from other sources of fluids. It may surprise some US people, but in a lot of areas you can actually drink tap water here...
"that phrase" being
'regular consumption of significant amounts of water can reduce the risk of development of dehydration'
So the fact that tap water also prevents that risk, means bottled water now prevents it less so?
I don't see any mention of "only" in their statement, so other sources existing shouldn't matter.
I'm also confused about the logic of thinking "tap water" along with "bottled water" is not a subset of "water" which is used in the claim.
If your statement is accurate, you are not exactly helping their case;}
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Auctioning these thing seems the height of irresponsibility. I wonder what legal ramifications there are for the Rail Corporation in releasing private information, (even if accidentally lost) to total strangers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost,_mislaid,_and_abandoned_property
Concerning abandoned or lost property, generally the finder must attempt to locate the original owner (title owner), usually by way of handing the property over to the authorities so they can attempt to return it.
However, if the lost property is not claimed after a time, then it legally becomes the property of the finder, and the finder gains the right to claim ownership over the item, to everyone except the title owner and any other previous holder of the item.
If the item is not claimed at all, they then gain ownership with all the rights that entitles, including reselling the item.
I admit the addition of copyright law, concerning the actual data on the flash drive, might be an entirely different matter.
However the rail corp never copied the data on the drives, so they are not in violation of copyright. Property law says they own the drive and the data, so reselling the data is also allowed, as long as they didn't make a copy to keep after the sale is complete.
There might be a problem if the final buyer did copy and distribute the data, but that violation would be committed by the final buyer, not the rail corporation.
I donno what a simbad is, a friend of mine went around calling it "sinbad" like the sailor for a while. Which is probably a cooler name, at least in the US.
According to the documentation for the app that the web interface talks with:
SIMBAD is the acronym for:
Set of
I dentifications,
M easurements and
B ibliography for
A stronomical
D ata
Weird, it still doesn't work and keeps redirecting to the http version.
I actually ended up typing it by hand in IE initially, and after reading your reply tried typing it by hand in firefox too.
I dunno why slashdot hates me, but it doesn't want to give up the goods.
I do have an account obviously, and I do not have advertisements disabled even though they give the option. I am not a paid/subscriber account though.
You are permanently depriving them of the time it took to produce the software, and their right to get paid for producing the software.
So you are claiming that since I have no need for your software, will not be using your software, will not be downloading or installing your software... That I am a theif because I deprived you of your time spent making it, and your right to make money by producing software?
In that case you owe me a few million dollars.
I just now wrote a Hello World program, and it's price I just set to 10 million.
You state I have a RIGHT to be paid for this.
You best pay up, before I sue you for depriving me of my right to make money off my software., and for you stealing my time I spent writing it.
What? You don't want to pay me for the software you already said I have a RIGHT to be paid for, despite you not wanting it?
Even after you claim you MUST compensate me for my time?
Hypocritical criminal scum.
Actually I didn't know about the https setup.
Oddly however, when I go to https://slashdot.org it redirects me to the http:// URL.
I even allowed slashdot in NoScript just in case, and still get the same behavior.
FireFox 3.6 still (Since the firefox v6-8 listing of my plug ins that are now incompatible is longer than the v8 feature list)
Same in IE 9 with no add ins, although I never signed in my account from IE.
Is the SSL site still in testing/beta or something?
If you hate Google's products so much, why do you insist on continuing to type google.com into your browser and going there?
You forcing the problem on yourself is the only way for your statements to be true.
If you don't want to be there, STOP going there.
The only thing more funny than Nelson taking a kids fist and using it to punch said kid in face, saying "Stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself!" -- Is people like you, who stand alone in a field punching yourself all on your own accord, and then complaining loudly about it.
Does ICANN offer any assistance with this matter? Can't they just yank the domain back?
Yup, there is a process for this. Unfortunately a bit slow, but better than nothing.
The registrar the domain is with now must provide proof the owner submitted it that can be challenged. No proof in 5 days, ICANN reverses the transfer.
At that point they have two weeks to argue that the transfer was not authentic.
I believe a court order would cause the action to be taken immediately in reversing it, and ICANN states they will comply.
http://www.icann.org/en/transfers/
All the forms and the policy itself (Items 1-4 on that page) plus some FAQ's that mention this type of thing.
I've never had to do a transfer dispute, so am not sure if their policy matches reality, but there it is.
I thought about it, and while neither situation is pleasant or nice, I think the GPs idea is still an improvement, and yes should be required by law.
The world you are arguing for is that a company can choose to spend X on security, and when it turns out X=0 and so the chances of them being hacked are 100%, that company then does not have to deal with the consequences of their choice, but instead get to sue the person warning them that X=0 is a bad idea.
V!NCENT's idea of forcing a company to suffer the consequences of their poor choices is much better.
P.S. No one here but you mentioned taking that choice away from anyone, and enforcing security. The only topic at hand was who has to deal with the choices a company makes, the company, or some random person explaining the end result of those decisions.
By this definition aren't, how can they be classified as elements? Growing up, and being taught in school "elements cannot be broken down any further." If these elements are breaking down into other elements..wtf?
What school was this? And in what country?
Protons and Electrons were discovered just before the year 1900, by Ernest Rutherford.
Neutrons were theorized then discovered two and three decades later respectively.
As long ago as 1945 was the first nuclear warhead testing detonation, which pretty much proved beyond any shadow of a doubt that atoms of elements can be split into smaller things. It made a news paper or two I think.
Anyone attempting to claim otherwise (Your school and teacher(s) included) is so embarrassingly wrong as to cast doubt on anything else they have claimed in life.
Unless you really are over 80 years old, and some how made it these past 60 odd years without learning a single new thing since school... In which case I feel really bad for you.
That's an interesting scheme but it's not very specific. If they stop updating the page, all you know is that they got a request. You have no idea if it was for your data or someone elses.
If they stop posting updates, then they got a request.
The only safe assumption at that point is that ALL of their datais now compromised. Yours too.
Any other assumption would simply be foolish and dangerous to make.
While having out of date software is asking for troubles, lately with the thriving zero-day exploit market, even performing that task is not guaranteed to protect you.
It really requires nothing more than clicking the first link in Google.
Scary world. But aside that, you can't possibly blame the person using the web for a zero day (That's addressed to you Mr GP, not the parent)
Obligatory xkcd: http://xkcd.com/221/ [xkcd.com]
That cartoon contains code for returning a single value, but the programmer came up with that value by rolling the dice.
This comment said that cartoon contains code for returning a single value, but the programmer came up with that value by rolling the dice.
That is why many new trademarks take the fanciful approach. It is hard to argue Google meant anything to anyone before the search company named themselves.
While your point remains solid and true, Google might not be the best example there.
Google is a play-on-misspelling of the word 'googol', which is the name of a number (10^100, or a 1 followed by 100 zeros)
Larry and Sergey choose that name (not their first choice of names) to signify the large amounts of information they wanted to provide to people.
Fun-Fact: The original name they picked for the search engine was "Back Rub", a play-on-words due to their rankings using back links to score higher in the results.
I'm not sure if they expected from the start for their search engine name to be used as a verb, but the possibilities for that original name are many and hilarious!
It gets even worse as far as rumors go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsBwnv_dAg
I would love a phone with those features. But I don't believe anything in that concept video will actually turn up on the new iPhone.
I still have a 3gs, and only skipped the 4 for recent budget changes. The 4s doesn't seem like a great step up from the 4, if I had to buy now.
But since my phones battery is still going strong, I'll hold off until at least the 5 is out either way.
If this one is true about the 4" screen, I might end up rethinking that, and just picking up a cheap used 4.
Short of waiting until launch day and being disappointed, there's not much harm to hope.
Unfortunately with Apple, you can't make any plans ahead of time.
Try walking into a Christian bookstore and asking for their section with cook books... What? Christians don't eat?
Store: Cornerstone Christian Supply (First Google result on "Christian cookbook")
Viewing a total of 530 items in Cookbooks
oops :P
Of course, they do not actually have a Comedy section. Searching for Comedy only returns DVDs, not books.
Try walking into a music store and asking for their television section... What? Musicians don't watch TV?
One should not expect to find TVs in a music store.
One should however expect to find books in a bookstore, although I can see how you could be confused...
I think the parent posters point stands.
After hitting submit too quick, I really wanted to add that I am not AT ALL implying the individual in the article should be thought of as simply misguided or to be felt bad for.
No no, he fucked up stupidly, and big time.
It was just that, unlike the parents implication, geeks/nerds should take pride in their ability, and resolve in you who are.
Hmm... isn't being a IT/Geek/Nerd pretty much Darwin Award material as itself?
Not since the 90s my friend ;}
As geek/nerd is not passed down genetically, the trait has nothing to fear from Darwin.
The funny thing about this trait is that it can pop up in anyone, even when neither of the parents share that trait. In fact in my experience all but one of my geek friends absolutely do not have geek parents. A fairly common random mutation.
If we were all rounded up and destroyed, geeks would reappear. After all, you may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all.
Let Darwin put that in his pipe and smoke it :o~
just going to the console manufacturers. On the PC you keep a lot more of your profits. Console makers generally take 30% off the top. If they could get away with it they'd raise the price for the console version higher. Yes, I realize steam takes a cut, but it's in line with the mark up from a retailer. I've heard from some of the indies it's less.
The advantage to PC distribution is that you get a choice.
To sell on a console, as you say you must pay them their fee to do so.
To sell on a PC, you must do nothing.
You can choose to use Steam, and pay them a fee to handle distribution and some marketing.
You can also choose not to, and do all of that yourself.
There is no reason you can't choose to setup a website, provide a download, and handle your own "cd key" generation or whatever you want. You can even choose not to use DRM, another choice you are not given on the console market.
Likewise you can choose to do all of your marketing and advertising yourself.
One can argue if Steam provides more worth in marketing, advertising, and distribution, than they take in fees.
But you get to have that argument. You can run the numbers and choose which ever option is better for you.
(Those companies who already have a name for themselves and some games released, likely have the infrastructure in place to distribute it, and already have a marketing team. Fresh startups on their first game likely have none of that and so Steam can be more cost effective)
In the console world, you don't get to choose.
You must pay that consoles fees to even release your game. Then you must pay them for distribution (Be it on disc or downloadable.)
They generally do not provide any marketing at all, which means you must pay for that too.
A startup just doesn't have a chance.
How log will it take?
How log is a piece of strig?
According to the 2009 BBC/Horizons documentary by the same name: How long is a piece of string ;}
the answer is either 32cm, or infinite
just have the system scan for curse words. easier than detecting emotion, and probably more accurate to determine when people are hating the IVR.
You would be shocked at the number of IVR systems that currently do this.
"Fuck" is the new "mash zero"
At least the ones I am forced to use on a regular basis most seem to support swear words as valid options. Or at least "fuck" and "shit", haven't tried any others.
On the non-regular calls I only try this trick when my intent is to trigger "Press zero to speak with a representative", seems to be roughly 50% success rate in my semi-limited experiences.
The only system I can think of that did not support it was my last bank. However their system couldn't be interrupted with menu presses, so you had to wait until it was finished speaking or it would ignore touch tones. Also hitting zero did not take you to a human, but back to the main menu to start over. :P
I'm pretty sure they purposely designed it to make you scream "fuck!" a lot and that was listed in the design requirements specified by the customer
In closing, hey Huntington if you're listening, you suck balls.
For everyone else, give it a try next you need to press zero anyway. If nothing else, it's pretty amusing.
http://www.dban.org/
Dariks Boot and Nuke.
Set it to multi-pass with random data to wipe. One pass will be fine to destroy the data. Set higher to impress the management if you have the time.
Attach multiple pATA and sATA drives spread on as many buses as possible. It will run in parallel in those cases and thus finish quicker.
They support military and DOD level wiping (Many passes, many methods of generating patterns and randomness to interleave)
Anyone else find it disturbing that we are putting lasers on robots now? And putting them in space? It's like we're asking for Skynet to develop.
I realize that is in jest, but something to think about:
There is a wider difference between the rovers current software and a skynet like murder-bot, than there is between our current UAV drones and a skynet like murder-bot.
The UAV's can do 95% of the hunting down and targeting process all by itself.
The only reason it can not fire on it's own is due to a design choice in software.
With a malicious reflashing of a UAV drone, the entire killing process can be automated and left on its own.
Of course the larger risk is of another human doing this reprogramming, not so much skynet. But the threat of fully automated skynet like operation is technologically possible right now.
While I am not too optimistic about the feelings of a true AI towards humans after how we are likely to treat it, I would worry more of the intentions of the human who first pulls this one off...
How can you POSSIBLY imply from this statement:
regular consumption of significant amounts of water can reduce the risk of development of dehydration
that other liquids would not also hydrate?
I can't answer that, since I never did imply it. Nor does that statement imply it. Nor did I say it.
Why did you bring it up? No one here but you mentioned anything about water being the only thing containing water.
Actually it's all part of the joke.
The original joke I quoted used "time machine" in place of "home made rocket"
http://www.subzeroblue.com/images/classifiedadbacktofuture.jpg
(Or google image search for "Wanted someone to go back in time with me")
The post I was replying to, with the content and his sig combined, reminded me of that joke and how fitting it would be with the twist.
No scientific value what so ever ;}
Just a nod back at the original material I lifted.
Sellers of bottled water wanted to use that phrase as a selling point for bottled water. The EU decided that you could get the same from other sources of fluids. It may surprise some US people, but in a lot of areas you can actually drink tap water here...
"that phrase" being
'regular consumption of significant amounts of water can reduce the risk of development of dehydration'
So the fact that tap water also prevents that risk, means bottled water now prevents it less so?
I don't see any mention of "only" in their statement, so other sources existing shouldn't matter.
I'm also confused about the logic of thinking "tap water" along with "bottled water" is not a subset of "water" which is used in the claim.
If your statement is accurate, you are not exactly helping their case ;}