The question is, did Sun actually buy it to sell commercial licenses, or as a way to push an integrated hardware stack?
No and no. Oh, and no.
Oracle did not out right buy MySQL. Oracle bought Sun.
It is akin to saying that while you went to McDonalds to get a meal, you only BOUGHT a napkin. No, the napkin comes with the meal, which is the thing you purchased.
Thinking Oracle had any desire to have MySQL when their one and only intent was clearly to purchase Sun (mainly a hardware company, thou yes they wanted their software divisions too, of which there are many more than just MySQL)
One can ponder why Oracle bought Sun all day long. But if Oracle just wanted MySQL, why have they never once tried to purchase MySQL, or even ask Sun to enter negotiations for MySQL?
because then, advertisers will pay less for ads and TV stations will either need more ads for the same amount of broadcasting or will go out of business.
Yea, cuz you know, the $60/month from a few million people in cable subscription costs couldn't possibly be anywhere near enough to run a cable company.
I mean god, I don't know how I would survive without $60 million every month! Right now I'm expecting next month to only make 59 million, and am so disgusted and sickened how people don't want to allow me to scream in their ear that I think I'll just take my ball and go home, closing the business down.
You do realize that skipping the commercials deprives the advertiser of the eyeballs that he is paying for and such is stealing from the advertiser.
Good!
If they cared at all about being fair and equal in regards to how they made their money, I would be as willing to be fair and equal in saying commercials are a necessary evil to put up with.
As long as they want to ear rape me, fuck them, I truly hope they lose everything, get put out on the streets homeless, and their family leaves them for their poor misguided actions in life.
If abusive people aren't punished for their abusive behavior, they will never learn that it is not acceptable.
'We developed these technologies over 15 years ago and demonstrated them widely, years before the marketplace had heard of interactive applications embedded in Web pages tapping into powerful remote resources.
Bullshit
Show me the web site that you made providing an interactive web app back in 1994, only one year after the web was even invented.
It stated that in the lawsuit that nokia wanted a patent cross-license agreement with apple for the rights to the GSM patents.
While I can't comment on the other patents yet, I find this one particularly crazy, since last I saw Apple does not manufacturer nor design nor sell GSM chips...
It would be like you buying a car from the dealer, then get sued for violating someones patent because the car manufacturer did just that.
Of course, there's no problem if they all play golf together at their country club. It's the "appearance" of conflict of interest thats the problem here, not the "actual" conflict of interest that goes on all the time.
True that. It is always about appearances in the public eye.
The judges and lawyers should just all join the same pro-copyright lobbing group, then everything will be peachy!
Titan, which is quite a bit smaller than Mars, has an atmosphere 1.5 times as dense as Earths.
Titan is also twice as massive as Mercury however, and definitely larger than both Earth or Mercury (thou only by ~1000km on its diameter), which would further back up the GP stating the atmosphere is held in more by a gravity well than a magnetic field.
Making a good car analogy is a lot like taking the scenic route instead of the direct route in your car. Sure it takes more gas, but the laughs and memories will be yours for a lifetime!
Why wouldn't a jury believe you had no intention of downloading kiddie porn when you were the one who reported it to the cops? Calling the cops sends it up the line to who you got it from.
It isn't a matter of the jury believing you or not.
If you told a lie and purposely downloaded child porn, thats life* in prison. If you tell the truth and accidentally downloaded it, that too is a crime that gets you life* in prison.
If the jury believes you or not both carries the same sentence. There is no 'intent' written into those laws, for this very reason.
*life - Yes technically it is 20 years in prison, but within the first month or two the police will set things up so the other 7 people in your cell are under the impression you enjoy molesting children, and will not come for a few hours after they hear the screams of your beating and death. Dying in prison at the whim of the guards and inmates is for all intents and purposes a life sentence, since you will die in prison.
The summary states that if you accidentally download kiddie porn you need to call the cops asap. Typically, people who are guilty or trying to hide something don't call the cops on themselves.
Yes but the summary also states that accidentally downloading child porn will get you 22 years in prison.
No thank you, I will not be calling the cops to have myself sent to prison for 22 years for not doing anything wrong.
I don't think it unreasonable in the least that young children shouldn't be exposed to breasts at all.
So you are saying you are all for starving your babies?!?:P
As far as staying up late, how does that equate to seeing naked body parts? I am trying hard to see why you think you know best when a parent should send a child to bed, but failed to see that inappropriate content was showed when it should not have been according to the rating and is flat out wrong.
Sorry, you lost your right to choose what is and is not appropriate when you fought to have that right forcibly removed from the rest of us in this country.
Having owned a Kindle 2 for the past two months, the PDF support doesn't bother me (and is apparently fixed in the latest release). The screen and form factor are FAR better than I thought they'd be. It's easy to read in just about any light, and it's as easy to hold as a thin paperback book. As for the Orwellian fears, I have to admit the first thing I'm doing with the Kindle is getting books I already own, but want to reread so I can donate the book to the library or some charitable organization - did I mention I have a LOT of books?.
I have to fully agree about the kindle hardware. It is a mighty fine ebook reader in and of itself. I don't care for reading on a computer screen, unless it is for reference or extremely short to keep eye strain to a minimum. The kindle display is a pleasure to look at in comparison, and I would guess about as easy on the eyes as regular paper.
It has decent open-book format support, which is a deal breaker for me. I refuse to support DRM in any way. Anyone thinking of using DRM to annoy a paying customer? You just lost a paying customer. Not to mention I don't trust you to release a non-DRM version before your copyright expires as you are required to by law. How can it be expected, when you will have been dead for 70+ years by then? My point however remains.
I actually was planning to do the same thing with my physical book collection. That is, give them away once I get an ebook version of it.
But my very next worry with that was the Orwellian fears you touched on as well, and slashdot is very familiar with. That stopped me dead in my tracks for now.
As long as the Kindle and my e-books will be around for a long time, it doesn't matter if I have the physical book anymore. So I'm more worried about Amazon going out of business or getting out of the ebook business and my ebooks become unusable.
The sad thing is, it already has happened for two books for kindle, and amazon isn't even out of business nor out of the eBook business to this day!
While I wouldn't let a single mistake put me off of buying a new/another Kindle, I would however go as far to say I would not put up with a second mistake. Amazon to me happens to be one of those companies that makes so few promises, but the ones they do make they seem to keep. So I'm going to tend to believe them for now that they will not delete any more kindle books, and hope that doesn't bite me in the ass too.
Unfortunately for amazon, I personally like the look of the B&N Nook a lot better. I haven't had a chance to see one physically yet, but I think when I do I will be hooked (no puns plzktnx)
But from a pure technology point of view, I actually like the Kindle a lot and it is a damn fine ebook reader. With alternate software (IE every feature identical to now, except those kill bits to delete books) I would say I have no problems with it. But being fair, one can't blame the device for what its makers enslaved it to do:P
The features of the nook are pretty nice as well, and most of the major changes to the user are the interface, which I am really looking forward to sampling. If apple teaches us anything, a good GUI can put a product over the top for no other logical reason:}
My real concern with Google DNS is privacy. Your DNS records are extremely valuable to google, so I sincerely doubt google is not going to record them.
I'm not even entirely convinced about the benefit of using google's; your local DNS server hierarchy is going to be far more responsive, even if it does have a higher miss rate.
So what you are saying is, you are upset at the idea of google logging your dns traffic, yet NOT upset with the idea of your ISP logging your DNS traffic and selling it to google?
Because google only gave you a legal document stating they wouldn't record your traffic longer than 48 hrs and would not tie those results with any other google service. You know, a legal document that you can use in court.
Your ISP has provided no such document, and as you admit to sincerely doubt google would avoid doing what is now illegal, so you must equally doubt your ISP would avoid doing it too, probably more so since your ISP likely has no such legal document.
Sounds to me the only way you can sleep easy at night would be to switching to google, and letting your doubt rest easy knowing you now have the law on your side, and moving away from your ISP that most likely IS (and if not, could legally do so) what you are so worried of.
Nice strawman, but how is half that stuff even relevant to raping an 8-yearold girl?
It is very much so, if you are a pedophile rapist. Easy list of targets, more info than one could safely gather in some time of hiding in bushes on playgrounds, etc. One could possibly better plan when to strike that way too, clearly not too soon after the court case ends, so police family and friends will have tapered down their assistance. But not too long after that the information would be stale.
I'm sure pedophile rapists have put way more thought into sources of information and how to use it than I just did in the past minute or two.
I guess we can't fault you for not thinking like a pedophile rapist though, as that is generally a good thing;)
Personally, I never re-read books, and I consider the probability of Amazon going bankrupt to be very small, anyway. So I have no worries with buying digital books from them, and I love my ebook reader.
Well that is good news at least. Because even with Amazon not going out of business, you won't have very long to re-read that book you bought from them before they delete it off your device for you:P
CentOS is a distribution that deals in long-term stability and security. Branched off as a free version of the vastly popular RedHat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), CentOS is everything the most important server distribution is, except the expensive, official support from the vendor. Speaking of support, CentOS 5.x versions, which are all based on RHEL5.x versions, are going to be supported until 2014, a total of seven years since the major release launch in 2007.
Looks like they are acknowledging they are based off RedHat just fine.
Now, what HAS happened, was CentOS attempted to put the RedHat logo on their product, which is not legal to do with trademarks (At least marks that are not your own.) Additionally, unless RedHat wanted to the world to use their name/logos in any way imaginable and have zero legal defense against any and all abuse, then they are require by law to do what was done.
If it was legal to have you sign a contract to give up the right to sue anyone for libel and slander, I would ask you do simply so when people do a smear campaign, and do a ton of bad evil things in your name that you now have no legal recourse for, just so you would be in their position and know the results of the course you are demanding from RedHat. (Oh, then post on slashdot how you are an asshole for complaining about the people ruining your name and reputation, of course;)
Doesn't sound pleasant, eh?
You can only hold a person responsible (or give credit for accomplishments) when it was done by their free will, not when they are forced into it, by law or any other way
My suggestion would be convert it into a 3D printer (Known as a fabrication machine)
Granted, I don't know your skill set so this might not be a valid option, but you have to admit the results are nice!
Video of a 3d printer made from an old ink jet (Boring to watch straight through, best to watch the first few moments and jump ahead to the end imho): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nbtZOolSIY
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The question is, did Sun actually buy it to sell commercial licenses, or as a way to push an integrated hardware stack?
No and no. Oh, and no.
Oracle did not out right buy MySQL. Oracle bought Sun.
It is akin to saying that while you went to McDonalds to get a meal, you only BOUGHT a napkin.
No, the napkin comes with the meal, which is the thing you purchased.
Thinking Oracle had any desire to have MySQL when their one and only intent was clearly to purchase Sun (mainly a hardware company, thou yes they wanted their software divisions too, of which there are many more than just MySQL)
One can ponder why Oracle bought Sun all day long.
But if Oracle just wanted MySQL, why have they never once tried to purchase MySQL, or even ask Sun to enter negotiations for MySQL?
because then, advertisers will pay less for ads and TV stations will either need more ads for the same amount of broadcasting or will go out of business.
Yea, cuz you know, the $60/month from a few million people in cable subscription costs couldn't possibly be anywhere near enough to run a cable company.
I mean god, I don't know how I would survive without $60 million every month! Right now I'm expecting next month to only make 59 million, and am so disgusted and sickened how people don't want to allow me to scream in their ear that I think I'll just take my ball and go home, closing the business down.
*rolls eyes*
You do realize that skipping the commercials deprives the advertiser of the eyeballs that he is paying for and such is stealing from the advertiser.
Good!
If they cared at all about being fair and equal in regards to how they made their money, I would be as willing to be fair and equal in saying commercials are a necessary evil to put up with.
As long as they want to ear rape me, fuck them, I truly hope they lose everything, get put out on the streets homeless, and their family leaves them for their poor misguided actions in life.
If abusive people aren't punished for their abusive behavior, they will never learn that it is not acceptable.
I'm not sure how you could legislate this problem away.
Easy, every time it happens, fine the responsible party a 'showed 4 nipples' dollar amount.
'We developed these technologies over 15 years ago and demonstrated them widely, years before the marketplace had heard of interactive applications embedded in Web pages tapping into powerful remote resources.
Bullshit
Show me the web site that you made providing an interactive web app back in 1994, only one year after the web was even invented.
Don't have one? No one did? Thought as much...
It stated that in the lawsuit that nokia wanted a patent cross-license agreement with apple for the rights to the GSM patents.
While I can't comment on the other patents yet, I find this one particularly crazy, since last I saw Apple does not manufacturer nor design nor sell GSM chips...
It would be like you buying a car from the dealer, then get sued for violating someones patent because the car manufacturer did just that.
Of course, there's no problem if they all play golf together at their country club. It's the "appearance" of conflict of interest thats the problem here, not the "actual" conflict of interest that goes on all the time.
True that. It is always about appearances in the public eye.
The judges and lawyers should just all join the same pro-copyright lobbing group, then everything will be peachy!
That was supposed to be earths moon, not the earth.
(Same as the GP was talking of, though my apologies for the confusion)
However your picture proves the GP and what i meant (if not said/typed)
I was quoting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_(moon)
I do appreciate the troll mod for a typo thou! Go go slashdot
Titan, which is quite a bit smaller than Mars, has an atmosphere 1.5 times as dense as Earths.
Titan is also twice as massive as Mercury however, and definitely larger than both Earth or Mercury (thou only by ~1000km on its diameter), which would further back up the GP stating the atmosphere is held in more by a gravity well than a magnetic field.
Making a good car analogy is a lot like taking the scenic route instead of the direct route in your car. Sure it takes more gas, but the laughs and memories will be yours for a lifetime!
PS, I think you left your parking break down...
This is were the Internet shows its evil side.
There was no internet in 1692.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials
No, this is where HUMANITY shows its evil side.
Why wouldn't a jury believe you had no intention of downloading kiddie porn when you were the one who reported it to the cops? Calling the cops sends it up the line to who you got it from.
It isn't a matter of the jury believing you or not.
If you told a lie and purposely downloaded child porn, thats life* in prison.
If you tell the truth and accidentally downloaded it, that too is a crime that gets you life* in prison.
If the jury believes you or not both carries the same sentence.
There is no 'intent' written into those laws, for this very reason.
*life - Yes technically it is 20 years in prison, but within the first month or two the police will set things up so the other 7 people in your cell are under the impression you enjoy molesting children, and will not come for a few hours after they hear the screams of your beating and death.
Dying in prison at the whim of the guards and inmates is for all intents and purposes a life sentence, since you will die in prison.
What's a district attorney to do when someone anonymously sends the D.A. an email with kiddie porn attached? Technically, the D.A. downloaded it.
Well the DA is part of the legal system. Of course THEY are exempt from these laws!
The summary states that if you accidentally download kiddie porn you need to call the cops asap. Typically, people who are guilty or trying to hide something don't call the cops on themselves.
Yes but the summary also states that accidentally downloading child porn will get you 22 years in prison.
No thank you, I will not be calling the cops to have myself sent to prison for 22 years for not doing anything wrong.
I don't think it unreasonable in the least that young children shouldn't be exposed to breasts at all.
So you are saying you are all for starving your babies?!? :P
As far as staying up late, how does that equate to seeing naked body parts? I am trying hard to see why you think you know best when a parent should send a child to bed, but failed to see that inappropriate content was showed when it should not have been according to the rating and is flat out wrong.
Sorry, you lost your right to choose what is and is not appropriate when you fought to have that right forcibly removed from the rest of us in this country.
but I didn't realize that Google Android cripples the phone by requiring Java.
They don't. You can write native code for Android phones. You just need a small java wrapper nothing more.
OOH!
So they don't require any java at all, because you can write native code, but you need some java that isn't at all required (and nothing more)?
So we can identify them by exclusion! ...
Well played sir!
If it gets to the point where we can print out a person, will these "people" have rights?
If they can choose to pick up a weapon and fight back, then yes eventually they just might get rights.
Having owned a Kindle 2 for the past two months, the PDF support doesn't bother me (and is apparently fixed in the latest release). The screen and form factor are FAR better than I thought they'd be. It's easy to read in just about any light, and it's as easy to hold as a thin paperback book. As for the Orwellian fears, I have to admit the first thing I'm doing with the Kindle is getting books I already own, but want to reread so I can donate the book to the library or some charitable organization - did I mention I have a LOT of books?.
I have to fully agree about the kindle hardware. It is a mighty fine ebook reader in and of itself.
I don't care for reading on a computer screen, unless it is for reference or extremely short to keep eye strain to a minimum. The kindle display is a pleasure to look at in comparison, and I would guess about as easy on the eyes as regular paper.
It has decent open-book format support, which is a deal breaker for me. I refuse to support DRM in any way. Anyone thinking of using DRM to annoy a paying customer? You just lost a paying customer.
Not to mention I don't trust you to release a non-DRM version before your copyright expires as you are required to by law. How can it be expected, when you will have been dead for 70+ years by then? My point however remains.
I actually was planning to do the same thing with my physical book collection. That is, give them away once I get an ebook version of it.
But my very next worry with that was the Orwellian fears you touched on as well, and slashdot is very familiar with. That stopped me dead in my tracks for now.
As long as the Kindle and my e-books will be around for a long time, it doesn't matter if I have the physical book anymore. So I'm more worried about Amazon going out of business or getting out of the ebook business and my ebooks become unusable.
The sad thing is, it already has happened for two books for kindle, and amazon isn't even out of business nor out of the eBook business to this day!
While I wouldn't let a single mistake put me off of buying a new/another Kindle, I would however go as far to say I would not put up with a second mistake.
Amazon to me happens to be one of those companies that makes so few promises, but the ones they do make they seem to keep. So I'm going to tend to believe them for now that they will not delete any more kindle books, and hope that doesn't bite me in the ass too.
Unfortunately for amazon, I personally like the look of the B&N Nook a lot better. I haven't had a chance to see one physically yet, but I think when I do I will be hooked (no puns plzktnx)
But from a pure technology point of view, I actually like the Kindle a lot and it is a damn fine ebook reader. :P
With alternate software (IE every feature identical to now, except those kill bits to delete books) I would say I have no problems with it.
But being fair, one can't blame the device for what its makers enslaved it to do
The features of the nook are pretty nice as well, and most of the major changes to the user are the interface, which I am really looking forward to sampling. If apple teaches us anything, a good GUI can put a product over the top for no other logical reason :}
My real concern with Google DNS is privacy. Your DNS records are extremely valuable to google, so I sincerely doubt google is not going to record them.
I'm not even entirely convinced about the benefit of using google's; your local DNS server hierarchy is going to be far more responsive, even if it does have a higher miss rate.
So what you are saying is, you are upset at the idea of google logging your dns traffic, yet NOT upset with the idea of your ISP logging your DNS traffic and selling it to google?
Because google only gave you a legal document stating they wouldn't record your traffic longer than 48 hrs and would not tie those results with any other google service. You know, a legal document that you can use in court.
Your ISP has provided no such document, and as you admit to sincerely doubt google would avoid doing what is now illegal, so you must equally doubt your ISP would avoid doing it too, probably more so since your ISP likely has no such legal document.
Sounds to me the only way you can sleep easy at night would be to switching to google, and letting your doubt rest easy knowing you now have the law on your side, and moving away from your ISP that most likely IS (and if not, could legally do so) what you are so worried of.
Nice strawman, but how is half that stuff even relevant to raping an 8-yearold girl?
It is very much so, if you are a pedophile rapist. Easy list of targets, more info than one could safely gather in some time of hiding in bushes on playgrounds, etc.
One could possibly better plan when to strike that way too, clearly not too soon after the court case ends, so police family and friends will have tapered down their assistance. But not too long after that the information would be stale.
I'm sure pedophile rapists have put way more thought into sources of information and how to use it than I just did in the past minute or two.
I guess we can't fault you for not thinking like a pedophile rapist though, as that is generally a good thing ;)
Personally, I never re-read books, and I consider the probability of Amazon going bankrupt to be very small, anyway. So I have no worries with buying digital books from them, and I love my ebook reader.
Well that is good news at least. Because even with Amazon not going out of business, you won't have very long to re-read that book you bought from them before they delete it off your device for you :P
So they say. You have more than their word for that?
Yes, a legal contract called a privacy policy.
Holds as much weight in court as it does with your current DNS provider too!
What about that mess with Centos and refusing to let them acknowledge that they're based off of Red Hat's distro?
Never happened.
In fact, look at the bottom of http://www.centos.org/
CentOS is a distribution that deals in long-term stability and security. Branched off as a free version of the vastly popular RedHat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), CentOS is everything the most important server distribution is, except the expensive, official support from the vendor. Speaking of support, CentOS 5.x versions, which are all based on RHEL5.x versions, are going to be supported until 2014, a total of seven years since the major release launch in 2007.
Looks like they are acknowledging they are based off RedHat just fine.
Now, what HAS happened, was CentOS attempted to put the RedHat logo on their product, which is not legal to do with trademarks (At least marks that are not your own.)
Additionally, unless RedHat wanted to the world to use their name/logos in any way imaginable and have zero legal defense against any and all abuse, then they are require by law to do what was done.
If it was legal to have you sign a contract to give up the right to sue anyone for libel and slander, I would ask you do simply so when people do a smear campaign, and do a ton of bad evil things in your name that you now have no legal recourse for, just so you would be in their position and know the results of the course you are demanding from RedHat. ;)
(Oh, then post on slashdot how you are an asshole for complaining about the people ruining your name and reputation, of course
Doesn't sound pleasant, eh?
You can only hold a person responsible (or give credit for accomplishments) when it was done by their free will, not when they are forced into it, by law or any other way
My suggestion would be convert it into a 3D printer (Known as a fabrication machine)
Granted, I don't know your skill set so this might not be a valid option, but you have to admit the results are nice!
Video of a 3d printer made from an old ink jet (Boring to watch straight through, best to watch the first few moments and jump ahead to the end imho):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nbtZOolSIY
Here is a better video showing the output from a production 3d printer, to give you an idea of what is possible:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdzooQQDWGg
Finally, some more basic info:
http://hackaday.com/2009/04/19/3d-printing-at-home/
http://homemade3dprinter.blogspot.com/
Google will have more detailed info if you are interested