http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot_trolling_phe nomena#Netcraft_confirms_it came
Thanks for the link, I had forgotten all about the hot grits phenomena, guess I'm getting old. My favorites always had both Hot Grits and Natalie Portman involved in some way together.
As soon as I began working from home I built myself a desk that is at chest height.
Literally the top of my desk is just under my armpits.
I have found that standing at my desk all day eleminates all the hunching over problems. I can rest my arms on the desk, I can bounce my legs and move around all day as I am working. Compared to bouncing my legs endlessly while sitting.
Of course my friends initially made fun of me, saying "Dude that is way high, what did you do? Screw up when measuring before building it?" I said it just seemed natural to want to stand, perhaps from working in server rooms early in my career.
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There are comments bandied around these parts about being "locked into MS" if you use their software.
Reading your comments above, it sounds like by going with OSS you are locking yourself into needing your OWN development department if you want to rely on the software, have bug fixes implemented and want any general help/feedback with a OSS product you using. Is that really the attitude you want to portray? Why do that when you can just pay the license fee.
Note: I develop for MS software, I have no moral problems with MS, and generally enjoy the experience. But that doesn't really affect my question. As I have worked on OSS projects and have a great deal of admiration for the developers of those projects.
I am just intrigued by your response, because it sure seems like a selling point AGAINST OSS.
"Impossible though it may seem, I've found analysis on Slashdot to be quite useful in making decisions about where to invest. The frequency that a certain company appears in slasdot headlines is one bellweather. Thoughtful analysis by slashdotters is also useful. "
Very true, that makes two of us that use slashdot to help do DD on our investment portfolio. I've been doing that for years, and has helped me make a wad of cash.
"Logging of communications" also means you have no privacy. And if you think your boss isn't tracking you by your IM status you're kidding yourself.
I'm a hard worker, I have no problem with my "boss" aka:"customers" knowing that I put in long hours. I use the tracking ability myself to monitor my customer contacts and coworkers; their availability and work habits. This comes in handy when you have clients and coworkers living in different timezones and with varying work schedules. If you work hard, what do you have to hide?:)
All those little annoyances? That is support or just part of getting the job done. If I am busy, I will tell somebody that or use that fancy "Away" indicator in most/all IM clients. The easier I make it for customers and coworkers to communicate with me, the better we can ALL get our job done.
My customers use IM. My coworkers use IM. I use IM.
IM is potentially the most influential communication medium since email. I have had quite a few of my customers tell me that "The simple fact that I can reach you via IM, has made your company's service better than any other partner."
IM is "instant", offers logging of communications and doesn't require somebody to check their email (it pops up on their screen). In many ways it is a better communication tool than other options: phone, email or fax. You can even use it to see if somebody is in the office yet, or out to lunch. I could go on and on...
Feel free to not use it; the rest of the modern business world won't be joining you.
Actually, in a free market, the best outcome is born out of mutual profit through cooperation -- not dog eat dog. My biggest successes came out of trading my skills for income when my customer made a profit from the trade. This is the free market.
If I could mod you up, I would.
My customers are my partners. The better they do as a result of my work for them, the better I do. The free market is treating me very well. My customers have proven quite grateful to good work done right.
building a large 'voice chat' network, with no single player controlling all the communications
working out a way for nodes to identified geographically. Remember the geographical identification should be controlled by the user, so that they can decide when to advertise their location
incorporate emergency service support
Declare that yes the are now indeed a telephony servce
Man.. If they do all that, then they WILL start charging us for usage. Although it is definitely a thought worth contemplating on. I use trillian all day long for business communications. I encourage customers to use it instead of the phone (That way I can multi-task better). And they like the instant access they have to me.
And, you gotta dig the messaging logging feature in trillian. That feature is awesome....
I see nothing in the article stating that they went with linux for: "because of the freedom, so you can fiddle with it, configure it like you want, modify it to fit your needs" It looks to me like they went with linux because it was supposed to work.
Who said anything about "free". They were paying support contracts I ASSume; They certainly had the contracts. I doubt they got them for "free". The whole article read that the people supporting it seemed incompetant.
Yes, when I install/configure/develop something and They PAY for it; they expect ME to fix it; if it has problems. Isn't that the standard?
I do NOT however expect my customers to have the time and/or expertise to do my own debugging/data analysis unless I really need them to (ie: no access). I certainly wouldn't let an issue go, just because my customer didn't get back to me. YOU FOLLOW UP ON THE ISSUE. You send an email, or call asking, "What is the status of this issue"? That is how you find out that the reason they didn't get you the data is that they don't know how or don't have time. That is called being PRO-active.
Finally, Free! Hahaha, I certainly wouldn't expect them to provide the services for FREE. But then again we get back to the issue of having a support contract.
This excuse sounds like the long-time tech support "solution" used when the support person has no clue of what the problem really is. Tech support: "Reboot your computer, if it still isn't working; give us a call back"
If you are a vendor; it is YOUR job to make your client's system work. If you really need the full diagnostics and the customer doesn't have the time/manpower/experience; then have one of your own people do the job.
You and I can vote all we want, but the stupid people of the U.S. will continue to vote for whomever the media and/or scariest advertisements tell them to.
I first heard art bell (coast to coast am) in '95, doing late night tech support in san diego. Without a doubt, the best talk radio show ever. If you are up at night...late night....listen to it....it's everywhere...... I've lived in 6 states since then, and its been available in every single one.
And NO, I don't believe all/any of it (depends on the topic)
Also, I think the Cult of the Dead Cows guys were on once before......it was years ago....but I think it was them....
The great thing about open source is that you only work on a project if you know what you are doing
I think I clearly remember working on many open source projects when I didn't know what I was doing. I was working on open source in order to learn how to do it in fact.
I would bet there are quite a few people like me out there as well.
Just a thought; but you do have to enjoy it, that's true.
If you are a Dali fan, you MUST eventually make it to the museum in St. Petersburg, FL. There you can stare at the HUGE paintings and get sucked into their depth.
I think they have somewhere > 200 of his works in total. They have historical information on him as well as some of his sketch books and sculptures as well as pictures of him.
No matter how I word it, the intent of my statement remains the same. Since I made the comment I don't feel like it was necessary to say, "I personally".
You obviously got the point.
BTW: I am still a huge fan of the original. The second just didn't do it for me.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot_trolling_phe nomena#Netcraft_confirms_it came
Thanks for the link, I had forgotten all about the hot grits phenomena, guess I'm getting old. My favorites always had both Hot Grits and Natalie Portman involved in some way together.
I'm using IE with the google tool bar and all those popups I'm reading about in this thread were successfully blocked.
As soon as I began working from home I built myself a desk that is at chest height. Literally the top of my desk is just under my armpits.
I have found that standing at my desk all day eleminates all the hunching over problems. I can rest my arms on the desk, I can bounce my legs and move around all day as I am working. Compared to bouncing my legs endlessly while sitting.
Of course my friends initially made fun of me, saying "Dude that is way high, what did you do? Screw up when measuring before building it?" I said it just seemed natural to want to stand, perhaps from working in server rooms early in my career.
After a bit of searching I found I was not alone, including Donald Rumsfeld, Sir Winston Churchill, Ernest Hemingway, John Dos Passos, Virginia Woolf, and even Thomas Jefferson
10 reasons to use a stand-up desk.
I'll never go back to sitting all day.
There are comments bandied around these parts about being "locked into MS" if you use their software.
Reading your comments above, it sounds like by going with OSS you are locking yourself into needing your OWN development department if you want to rely on the software, have bug fixes implemented and want any general help/feedback with a OSS product you using. Is that really the attitude you want to portray? Why do that when you can just pay the license fee.
Note: I develop for MS software, I have no moral problems with MS, and generally enjoy the experience. But that doesn't really affect my question. As I have worked on OSS projects and have a great deal of admiration for the developers of those projects.
I am just intrigued by your response, because it sure seems like a selling point AGAINST OSS.
"Impossible though it may seem, I've found analysis on Slashdot to be quite useful in making decisions about where to invest. The frequency that a certain company appears in slasdot headlines is one bellweather. Thoughtful analysis by slashdotters is also useful. "
Very true, that makes two of us that use slashdot to help do DD on our investment portfolio. I've been doing that for years, and has helped me make a wad of cash.
Thanks for the excellent review. This type of article is what made /. great.
"Logging of communications" also means you have no privacy. And if you think your boss isn't tracking you by your IM status you're kidding yourself.
:)
I'm a hard worker, I have no problem with my "boss" aka:"customers" knowing that I put in long hours. I use the tracking ability myself to monitor my customer contacts and coworkers; their availability and work habits. This comes in handy when you have clients and coworkers living in different timezones and with varying work schedules. If you work hard, what do you have to hide?
All those little annoyances? That is support or just part of getting the job done. If I am busy, I will tell somebody that or use that fancy "Away" indicator in most/all IM clients. The easier I make it for customers and coworkers to communicate with me, the better we can ALL get our job done.
My customers use IM. My coworkers use IM. I use IM.
IM is potentially the most influential communication medium since email.
I have had quite a few of my customers tell me that "The simple fact that I can reach you via IM, has made your company's service better than any other partner."
IM is "instant", offers logging of communications and doesn't require somebody to check their email (it pops up on their screen). In many ways it is a better communication tool than other options: phone, email or fax. You can even use it to see if somebody is in the office yet, or out to lunch. I could go on and on...
Feel free to not use it; the rest of the modern business world won't be joining you.
Actually, in a free market, the best outcome is born out of mutual profit through cooperation -- not dog eat dog. My biggest successes came out of trading my skills for income when my customer made a profit from the trade. This is the free market.
If I could mod you up, I would.
My customers are my partners. The better they do as a result of my work for them, the better I do. The free market is treating me very well. My customers have proven quite grateful to good work done right.
That's funny. I have no degree; but I have an 11 month backlog of work contracted for multiple customers.
Of course I program for the Microsoft Platform; so maybe the students should listen to Billy G.
"Just remember. I didn't sell out. I bought in."
Man.. If they do all that, then they WILL start charging us for usage. Although it is definitely a thought worth contemplating on. I use trillian all day long for business communications. I encourage customers to use it instead of the phone (That way I can multi-task better). And they like the instant access they have to me.
And, you gotta dig the messaging logging feature in trillian. That feature is awesome....
I see nothing in the article stating that they went with linux for: "because of the freedom, so you can fiddle with it, configure it like you want, modify it to fit your needs" It looks to me like they went with linux because it was supposed to work.
Who said anything about "free". They were paying support contracts I ASSume; They certainly had the contracts. I doubt they got them for "free". The whole article read that the people supporting it seemed incompetant.
Yes, when I install/configure/develop something and They PAY for it; they expect ME to fix it; if it has problems. Isn't that the standard?
I do NOT however expect my customers to have the time and/or expertise to do my own debugging/data analysis unless I really need them to (ie: no access). I certainly wouldn't let an issue go, just because my customer didn't get back to me. YOU FOLLOW UP ON THE ISSUE. You send an email, or call asking, "What is the status of this issue"? That is how you find out that the reason they didn't get you the data is that they don't know how or don't have time. That is called being PRO-active.
Finally, Free! Hahaha, I certainly wouldn't expect them to provide the services for FREE. But then again we get back to the issue of having a support contract.
Exactly.
This excuse sounds like the long-time tech support "solution" used when the support person has no clue of what the problem really is.
Tech support: "Reboot your computer, if it still isn't working; give us a call back"
If you are a vendor; it is YOUR job to make your client's system work. If you really need the full diagnostics and the customer doesn't have the time/manpower/experience; then have one of your own people do the job.
Nice try, but Rockhurst College is in Kansas City, Missouri.
He'd probably want to have a legit copy of windows to do that...
Let me translate, "Never".
You and I can vote all we want, but the stupid people of the U.S. will continue to vote for whomever the media and/or scariest advertisements tell them to.
I've been lurking so long, I can't believe I still remembered the password.
I first heard art bell (coast to coast am) in '95, doing late night tech support in san diego. Without a doubt, the best talk radio show ever. If you are up at night...late night....listen to it....it's everywhere...... I've lived in 6 states since then, and its been available in every single one.
And NO, I don't believe all/any of it (depends on the topic)
Also, I think the Cult of the Dead Cows guys were on once before......it was years ago....but I think it was them....
The great thing about open source is that you only work on a project if you know what you are doing
I think I clearly remember working on many open source projects when I didn't know what I was doing. I was working on open source in order to learn how to do it in fact.
I would bet there are quite a few people like me out there as well.
Just a thought; but you do have to enjoy it, that's true.
You are on a roll with the good commentary about this article/subject.
This is why I read slashdot.
"Once upon a time, slashdot was entirely independent."
/. that long.....
Damn have I been reading
" if MS removes IE from Windows, it would break Apples software"
and what "powerful browser of their own" runs on windows? Safari is great, but i don't believe it runs on windows.
i hate people that get all snotty and are wrong at the same time.
If anybody out there is looking for a great chess website, i recommend www.redhotpawn.com .
p.s. i don't have any interest in the site except for being a satisfied user.
If you are a Dali fan, you MUST eventually make it to the museum in St. Petersburg, FL. There you can stare at the HUGE paintings and get sucked into their depth.
I think they have somewhere > 200 of his works in total. They have historical information on him as well as some of his sketch books and sculptures as well as pictures of him.
I liked the pictures of his pet ocelot.
No matter how I word it, the intent of my statement remains the same. Since I made the comment I don't feel like it was necessary to say, "I personally".
You obviously got the point.
BTW: I am still a huge fan of the original. The second just didn't do it for me.