I could be wrong, but i think that the parent poster was referring to the fact that Apache runs ~ 70% of the web servers out there and IIS (not Windows) runs ~ 20% of the Web Servers that are facing the internet.
In addition, I believe his post was about how internet worms have affected IIS a lot more than Apache, while IIS is still a fraction of Apache's Internet facing market share.
Debian and Gentoo both have a history of really zealous users that like to tell the whole world how great their distribution is--I'm starting to mind this less and less. The package systems for both are really cool.
What is really the difference between a.deb and a.rpm? I'm not knocking.deb, because I have very little experience with it other than a user standpoint, while I have built a great many rpm packages.
I just want to know. apt is available for both.deb and.rpm, I don't see what one package does that the other doesn't.
I use it at work on private networks for getting onto the console servers.
I work for a high performance clustering firm, and we use Cyclade Terminal Servers for getting into the machines during boot or the BIOS.
Telnet to console server port 7012 will connect to node12. This is hardly used, and there is a way to ssh to the console server and telnet to localhost instead, but it's just easier this way.
Besides the clusters are on their own private net, with traffic to these on a separate vlan.
7b. Linux may make it difficult to be compatable with windows _users_
Seeing how Linux uses and relies upon open standards and Microsoft doesn't even have a standard file format from one version of Office to the next, I would say:
7b. Microsoft makes it difficult to be compatible with non-Microsoft _users_ (OSX has Office which is fine, but doesn't nessecarily mean Windows Users).
After these things do I have to release 'my' privately created code along w/ the GPL parts of my code?
1st, I am not a lawyer (IANAL always looks like it should be pronounced I anal), but if you modify GPL code and sell it, the derivative (your code + their code = derivative) is covered by the GPL and must come with a means of distributing the source.
However if you rewrite all the GPL code, then you're no longer a derivative. Once again the GPL actually grants rights, and only comes into play when you distribute. If this is all for personal use, this discussion is moot.
You are aware that most of the hardware firewalls permit ALL outbound traffic by default and allow all traffic in that is initiated from inside the firewall?
I gotcha, now I understand what you meant by a trusted interface. I thought you meant setting a DMZ to a machine inside the trusted zone or something, I just misunderstood.
1. Whether you like it or not, firewall and open up what you need, that's both inbound and outbound, do NOT get a linksys router or other silly piece of hardware that believes in the concept of "trusted" interface. Be sure to have it NAT, although never get the impression that NAT is security in itself.
No one force you to use the DMZ. If that is not what you meant, I'd sure like to know because this didn't make much sense to me.
15. Bios password the systems, prevent floppy booting, etc, change these passwords regularly.
Useless, if they can get to the BIOS it usually means that they have physical access. This means that they can just pull a quick jumper, or use something like CMOSRAM.EXE to wipe all the existing settings (and password).
I run six large clusters, only one of them was benchmarked and is on the top500 (under 200) but all are relatively the same size and processing power. We change a great many things from build to build. Kernel tweaks, updates, etc. This is for optimizing the system to the code that we run. And although typically our clusters are on a physically separate network, the worst enemy is the one within, thus our machines tend to be patched for severe security holes.
I've not looked much into LinuxBIOS as of yet aside from the Linux Journal article. It doesn't really give much information on what it really does. I mean does LinuxBIOS initialize hardware and then load my kernel for regular operations? Does it load an nfs exported root partition and use that as the system disk? How are kernel updates done if it is the latter.
In addition our clusters all have at least some local storage, using the network for everything means that you have a cluster with a big point of failure. It also means that there is no swap space.
Cluster nodes, in my experience, do need more than just a mainboard, cpu's and ram.
How would a.mail TLD make it any harder to send spam? Just fake a.mail TLD or get a real one. Hell, I might have to register spam.mail (I call dibs on it, so none of you bastards go register it ahead of me, got it?) and start spamming just to make a point.:P
I'd guess that it'd probably be more like a drivers license type scheme. Verify who you are, run a quick few simple tests (open relay, known sploits, etc.) and revocation of users known to fuck things up for the rest, IE spammers.
This will suck if that is how it is envisioned. But really all it takes is earthlink, msn, yahoo and aol all saying they will block all mail from non.mail approved hosts starting X/Y/Z.
Personally I think SPF is the way...
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Obviously! Damn dude you're stupid. You can find stuff on archive.org but you're too lazy to check www.kevinrose.com and see "my personal website is down for now - my latest work can be found on thebroken & techtv."
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SSL Cipher set to none shows a little lock as SSL enabled but doesn't require a cert. It tricks the browsers.
Last I checked 2 * 4.7 GB was 9.4 GB, not 8.5 GB. Are they holding back 0.9 GB to preserve a threshold against piracy? (Note: units for DVD capacity are metric.)
I for one can't wait for all this DVD burner stuff to settle down. I'd love to have one, but I'm not so inclined to get one as long as there's a new format coming out every few days...
Get a Dual Format. I have a +/- R/RW and it works with any media. I don't anticipate that there will be only one format anytime soon, but that's ok. I purchased my burner accordingly. This way only price is the determining factor as to which DVD blank I get.
Since a user must still install w/o being connected to the network and then change a system setting in order to not get a virus, I belive that my point is still valid, that one doesn't have to explicitly run an app to in order to get a virus.
My point is, that by default that is true, but if you take a few seconds to enable the firewall that is no longer the case.
It was a dumb default by Microsoft, but it's not one you have to live with. It is just that, a default. A user can install all WindowsUpdates with the Microsoft Firewall enabled, and be OK. Just gotta turn it on.
The only way I found to get around the problem was to get the patch on a CD and do the install w/o connecting to the network. Is that considered user error?
Uhm, XP has a "Firewall", and this "Firewall" will prevent "users" from getting "worms" if it is "enabled" before you connect to the "Internet".
X11 was X11 right from the start as far as I remember. The 11 stands for one megapixel (as in a display 1000x1000) and one MIP (million instructions per second). At the time X11 was conceived this theoretical platform spec was thought to be about 5-10 in the future (ie mid 1980s) but actually such a machine was available in only 2 yrs.
Could somone go over the diffrences between X11 and Xorg? Is it just a license issue, or are there other differences?
X11 is the 11th iteration of the X protocol. XOrg, XFree86, and most commercial X servers speak X11R6 these days. Speaking the X protocol is key to interoperability from Unix to Unix.
X11 as a protocol doesn't have a license issue that i am aware of. Did you by any chance mean the differences between XFree86 and XOrg?
If that is what you meant, then the answer is simple, XOrg is a branch right before the XFree86 license change, so it's pretty safe to say that XOrg isn't too different at all at this point in time.
And yes,.debs are significantly different than RPMs (as are the database cache files). The whole approach is entirely different, which leads to a cohesive packaging environment for debian and not for.rpm based distros.
Back that statement up. How are they different? What makes.deb so much better.
1) There's better support for distros such as Debian or Gentoo, as more of the users are more knowledgeable users. 2) Why would anyone want to use a shitty RPM based distro or one with proprietary modifications that make it incompatible (Lindows comes to mind)?
Uhm, excuse me.... You are aware that Lindows is Debian based right? Funny that you praise Debian on #1 and on #2 call Lindows an RPM based distro.
You sir are wrong on both departments. RPM is nothing more than a packaging format. RPM is damn good too. Technically.deb's aren't too differnet at all.
Once I tried to report a problem. I went to http://support.charter.com/ and was prompted to install some support.com toolbar. Once I clicked cancel it took me to a "You must install plugin" page. When I hit "Ok" It fails because I am using Firefox on Linux.
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I could be wrong, but i think that the parent poster was referring to the fact that Apache runs ~ 70% of the web servers out there and IIS (not Windows) runs ~ 20% of the Web Servers that are facing the internet.
In addition, I believe his post was about how internet worms have affected IIS a lot more than Apache, while IIS is still a fraction of Apache's Internet facing market share.
Debian and Gentoo both have a history of really zealous users that like to tell the whole world how great their distribution is--I'm starting to mind this less and less. The package systems for both are really cool.
.deb and a .rpm? I'm not knocking .deb, because I have very little experience with it other than a user standpoint, while I have built a great many rpm packages.
.deb and .rpm, I don't see what one package does that the other doesn't.
What is really the difference between a
I just want to know. apt is available for both
That's the OS, what about the software?
That is not the OS. That's the distribution. Distributions take up more than one disk because they come with a shitload of software.
Mozilla Web Browser
OpenOffice.Org
Gaim
The Gimp
Evolution
vim
I mean, this is all stuff you have to sit and download or pay extra for with Windows. Software is also available for download.
Only thing really missing is games... for day to day use Linux is fine though.
I use it at work on private networks for getting onto the console servers.
I work for a high performance clustering firm, and we use Cyclade Terminal Servers for getting into the machines during boot or the BIOS.
Telnet to console server port 7012 will connect to node12. This is hardly used, and there is a way to ssh to the console server and telnet to localhost instead, but it's just easier this way.
Besides the clusters are on their own private net, with traffic to these on a separate vlan.
Hey,
Hopefully they'll sue the shit out of verisign for their sitefinder site. Appears to me that SiteFinder would be covered by this patent? Am I right?
Sick the two assholes on each other, hopefully they will take each other out in the battle...
What about the Ford Explorer (Internet Explorer) or the Lincoln Navigator (Netscape Navigator) connection?
Seems like browsers are supposed to just be named after cars....
What's next? the Nissan Opera????
7b. Linux may make it difficult to be compatable with windows _users_
Seeing how Linux uses and relies upon open standards and Microsoft doesn't even have a standard file format from one version of Office to the next, I would say:
7b. Microsoft makes it difficult to be compatible with non-Microsoft _users_ (OSX has Office which is fine, but doesn't nessecarily mean Windows Users).
After these things do I have to release 'my' privately created code along w/ the GPL parts of my code?
1st, I am not a lawyer (IANAL always looks like it should be pronounced I anal), but if you modify GPL code and sell it, the derivative (your code + their code = derivative) is covered by the GPL and must come with a means of distributing the source.
However if you rewrite all the GPL code, then you're no longer a derivative. Once again the GPL actually grants rights, and only comes into play when you distribute. If this is all for personal use, this discussion is moot.
You are aware that most of the hardware firewalls permit ALL outbound traffic by default and allow all traffic in that is initiated from inside the firewall?
I gotcha, now I understand what you meant by a trusted interface. I thought you meant setting a DMZ to a machine inside the trusted zone or something, I just misunderstood.
Thanks for the clearing up
1. Whether you like it or not, firewall and open up what you need, that's both inbound and outbound, do NOT get a linksys router or other silly piece of hardware that believes in the concept of "trusted" interface. Be sure to have it NAT, although never get the impression that NAT is security in itself.
No one force you to use the DMZ. If that is not what you meant, I'd sure like to know because this didn't make much sense to me.
15. Bios password the systems, prevent floppy booting, etc, change these passwords regularly.
Useless, if they can get to the BIOS it usually means that they have physical access. This means that they can just pull a quick jumper, or use something like CMOSRAM.EXE to wipe all the existing settings (and password).
I run six large clusters, only one of them was benchmarked and is on the top500 (under 200) but all are relatively the same size and processing power. We change a great many things from build to build. Kernel tweaks, updates, etc. This is for optimizing the system to the code that we run. And although typically our clusters are on a physically separate network, the worst enemy is the one within, thus our machines tend to be patched for severe security holes.
I've not looked much into LinuxBIOS as of yet aside from the Linux Journal article. It doesn't really give much information on what it really does. I mean does LinuxBIOS initialize hardware and then load my kernel for regular operations? Does it load an nfs exported root partition and use that as the system disk? How are kernel updates done if it is the latter.
In addition our clusters all have at least some local storage, using the network for everything means that you have a cluster with a big point of failure. It also means that there is no swap space.
Cluster nodes, in my experience, do need more than just a mainboard, cpu's and ram.
You must have forgot about 386 S/WAN 4.4-Lite to which FreeS/WAN was based upon.
How would a .mail TLD make it any harder to send spam? Just fake a .mail TLD or get a real one. Hell, I might have to register spam.mail (I call dibs on it, so none of you bastards go register it ahead of me, got it?) and start spamming just to make a point. :P
.mail approved hosts starting X/Y/Z.
I'd guess that it'd probably be more like a drivers license type scheme. Verify who you are, run a quick few simple tests (open relay, known sploits, etc.) and revocation of users known to fuck things up for the rest, IE spammers.
This will suck if that is how it is envisioned. But really all it takes is earthlink, msn, yahoo and aol all saying they will block all mail from non
Personally I think SPF is the way...
Obviously! Damn dude you're stupid. You can find stuff on archive.org but you're too lazy to check www.kevinrose.com and see "my personal website is down for now - my latest work can be found on thebroken & techtv."
SSL Cipher set to none shows a little lock as SSL enabled but doesn't require a cert. It tricks the browsers.
Last I checked 2 * 4.7 GB was 9.4 GB, not 8.5 GB.
Are they holding back 0.9 GB to preserve a threshold against piracy?
(Note: units for DVD capacity are metric.)
As opposed to what? British Units?
I for one can't wait for all this DVD burner stuff to settle down. I'd love to have one, but I'm not so inclined to get one as long as there's a new format coming out every few days...
Get a Dual Format. I have a +/- R/RW and it works with any media. I don't anticipate that there will be only one format anytime soon, but that's ok. I purchased my burner accordingly. This way only price is the determining factor as to which DVD blank I get.
Since a user must still install w/o being connected to the network and then change a system setting in order to not get a virus, I belive that my point is still valid, that one doesn't have to explicitly run an app to in order to get a virus.
My point is, that by default that is true, but if you take a few seconds to enable the firewall that is no longer the case.
It was a dumb default by Microsoft, but it's not one you have to live with. It is just that, a default. A user can install all WindowsUpdates with the Microsoft Firewall enabled, and be OK. Just gotta turn it on.
The only way I found to get around the problem was to get the patch on a CD and do the install w/o connecting to the network. Is that considered user error?
Uhm, XP has a "Firewall", and this "Firewall" will prevent "users" from getting "worms" if it is "enabled" before you connect to the "Internet".
X11 was X11 right from the start as far as I remember. The 11 stands for one megapixel (as in a display 1000x1000) and one MIP (million instructions per second). At the time X11 was conceived this theoretical platform spec was thought to be about 5-10 in the future (ie mid 1980s) but actually such a machine was available in only 2 yrs.
Yeah, I make shit up too....
Could somone go over the diffrences between X11 and Xorg? Is it just a license issue, or are there other differences?
X11 is the 11th iteration of the X protocol. XOrg, XFree86, and most commercial X servers speak X11R6 these days. Speaking the X protocol is key to interoperability from Unix to Unix.
X11 as a protocol doesn't have a license issue that i am aware of. Did you by any chance mean the differences between XFree86 and XOrg?
If that is what you meant, then the answer is simple, XOrg is a branch right before the XFree86 license change, so it's pretty safe to say that XOrg isn't too different at all at this point in time.
And yes, .debs are significantly different than RPMs (as are the database cache files). The whole approach is entirely different, which leads to a cohesive packaging environment for debian and not for .rpm based distros.
.deb so much better.
Back that statement up. How are they different? What makes
1) There's better support for distros such as Debian or Gentoo, as more of the users are more knowledgeable users.
.deb's aren't too differnet at all.
2) Why would anyone want to use a shitty RPM based distro or one with proprietary modifications that make it incompatible (Lindows comes to mind)?
Uhm, excuse me.... You are aware that Lindows is Debian based right? Funny that you praise Debian on #1 and on #2 call Lindows an RPM based distro.
You sir are wrong on both departments. RPM is nothing more than a packaging format. RPM is damn good too. Technically
Once I tried to report a problem. I went to http://support.charter.com/ and was prompted to install some support.com toolbar. Once I clicked cancel it took me to a "You must install plugin" page. When I hit "Ok" It fails because I am using Firefox on Linux.
Wish I had my mod points, I love it when people talk smack and get smacked for the same issues.