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From a reader: "The guys over at thebroken have put together a fun hacking videozine ( .torrent here ). This episode covers Windows password hacking, destroying your hard drive with 3,000 degree molten iron, console modding, and an interview with Kevin Mitnick. Think "The Man Show" meets computers. Divx Required. "

364 comments

  1. Bandwidth Usage here we come! by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Funny

    OMG -- a real live bittorrent related to a frontpage /. article. Now not only can I do my part to cause the /. effect -- I can help enable others to do the same using my own bandwidth!

    Who knew the paid subscription would come in handy afterall? I've already got 50% of it. I'll be sharing this puppy for the next few days :) God, I love the Internet.

    --
    I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
    We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
    1. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by spaceman+harris · · Score: 3, Funny

      This must set the record for the largest file ever linked to on Slashdot.

      156 megs! I used to have a hard drive that size.

    2. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by DrStrangeLoop · · Score: 0, Insightful

      i would image that you download each chunk only one, but upload it multiple times to different peers?

    3. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's easy. With BitTorrent, everyone wins. Except you.

    4. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bittorrent will give upload preferece to peers that give it good download speed

      but it will still upload as much as it can even if it can't download anything

    5. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Go to the BT site and RTFM. People are continually downloading the small parts you do have, and thus they can be downloaded over and over again as needed by millions of other people.

    6. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by wikk!d · · Score: 1

      WHOO HOO! 300KB/s. wait.. that was a lowercase b. doh!

    7. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



      My stats:

      At the moment I am getting:
      26 KiB/s down
      80 KiB/s up

      I will report back later, with update statistics.

    8. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by ncc74656 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      156 megs! I used to have a hard drive that size.

      N00b! :-) I've had hard drives smaller than that, you insensitive clod!

      --
      20 January 2017: the End of an Error.
    9. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, according to your website, your core audience is the people that hate M$. So I must be in.

      Oh well, after a deeper read of it, it turns out I'm not. I hate websites that SUCKS ASS.

      See ya.

    10. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by wmspringer · · Score: 1, Funny

      You had a hard drive? My first computer didn't even have a hard drive, we had to use floppies and cartridges! And we were glad to have them! Kids today... :-)

    11. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by alexdm · · Score: 1, Informative
      you can regulate, if it's hogging your upload, by setting the
      --max_upload_rate n
      option, where n is in kb/s
    12. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative



      The tracker for this file -- http://fpcat.homelinux.org:6969/ -- hosts some other .torrent's as well. The Freedom Downtime .torrent offered is even larger than the "thebroken" episode linked above.


    13. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by afidel · · Score: 1, Funny

      Floppies, the luxury! My first computer had toggles that you used to enter the data, there WAS no storage, my second one used unreliable casette tapes, it wasn't till my first PC that I got floppies. My first computer with a HDD was a PC AT clone with a 5.25" full height 20MB MFM HDD. Now I have a camera with more storage than my fifth computer =) Isn't Moores law and related activities a wonderfull thing.

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      There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
    14. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by fm6 · · Score: 1

      I still have a hard drive that's only 10 meg. Keep wonder what I should do with it.

    15. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by Alan · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      You had *toggles*!? Luxury! I had to program anything in with a soldering iron directly into the chips!

    16. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Floppies and cartridges? Luxury! My first computer had a tape station! And it came with a special screw driver to align the read head. And even though I sometimes forgot to note the tape counter on paper (so I could find the position my saved data), I was happy.

    17. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by thelasttemptation · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      CHIPS? ya lazy bum! We had beads on a stick and love it!

    18. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by BgJonson79 · · Score: 1

      OT:

      Afidel, can I use that .sig?

      --

      There are four boxes used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order.

    19. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, I stole it from another slashdotter =)

    20. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That makes two of us.

    21. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by bencvt · · Score: 1
      This recursive one-up-manship has almost reached its base case, so I'll just fill in the last few iterations to save time and mod points:

      ...

      Iteration 6: "Sticks? Beads? What is this crap? Why, in my day, we had fingers for calculating, and those were good enough!"

      Iteration 7: "Fingers? You had fucking FINGERS? We did it all in our heads! Our brains worked just fine back in my day!"

      Iteration 8: "Heads? Brains? Conscious thought is for suckers! Back in my day, we hadn't evolved yet, and we didn't exist, ergo there were no calculations to be performed in the bloody first place!"

      Base case. QED. (QED = Latin expression for KTHXBYE.)

    22. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      please don't

    23. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by Captain+Stoichiometr · · Score: 1

      coaster?

    24. Re:Bandwidth Usage here we come! by oniony · · Score: 1

      And hopefully a lowercase K, otherwise who knows what multiplier they're using.

      --

      Powered by onion juice.

  2. TSS by n9uxu8 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Useful site for those who didn't catch it first on the screensavers. DAve

  3. Just one question by spellraiser · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does Ramzi make an appearance?

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    I hear there's rumors on the Slashdots
  4. 3000 Degree Molten Iron by kb0pin · · Score: 2, Funny

    I like the iron idea. I think I'll hop over to the local hardware store and grab some on the way home.

    1. Re:3000 Degree Molten Iron by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I like the iron idea. I think I'll hop over to the local hardware store and grab some on the way home.

      Depending upon where you live, you may be suprised to find trucks on the interstate hauling molten aluminum. There has been one accident to my knowledge, vaporizing the occupant of a car.

      --

      A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
    2. Re:3000 Degree Molten Iron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SEND PIX!

    3. Re:3000 Degree Molten Iron by ValourX · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here's the story.

      Didn't find any pictures though.

      -Jem
    4. Re:3000 Degree Molten Iron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't need 3000 degree iron, you only need to get to ~1200F to melt the aluminum platters and HD case, bearings, etc. I melt old hard disks all the time for scrap -- they're a REALLY nice alloy for casting and it's easy to separate out all the steel stuff from the liquid aluminum!

    5. Re:3000 Degree Molten Iron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would think that that would'nt be a very efficient way of transporting/making alum. parts.

      WTF does there need to be 1300F molten metal on the interstate for?

    6. Re:3000 Degree Molten Iron by p4ul13 · · Score: 1

      Whoah; that sounds like a very interesting (though morbid) story. I don't suppose you have any more details that I could google on?

      --
      Paul Lenhart writes words!
    7. Re:3000 Degree Molten Iron by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Informative
      I would think that that would'nt be a very efficient way of transporting/making alum. parts.

      WTF does there need to be 1300F molten metal on the interstate for?

      As it was explained to me, it's very efficient. Aluminum hauled in tankers moved between locations in only a few hours, thus saving having to build a facility for melting the aluminum. I knew there was an aluminum smelter near Toledo, OH, which frequently trucked molten aluminum up to Saginaw, MI.

      As much as it shocked me when I first learned they did this, it should be no less shocking than all those gasoline/petrol tankers you see on roads everywhere, which would turn you and your car into crispy critters just as efficiently.

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      A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
    8. Re:3000 Degree Molten Iron by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      Whoah; that sounds like a very interesting (though morbid) story. I don't suppose you have any more details that I could google on?

      See above in this thread. A poster linked to an article which made passing reference to one such incident.

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      A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
    9. Re:3000 Degree Molten Iron by op00to · · Score: 1

      I think you don't quite understand the definition of molten.

      Molten means more than just melted. It could also mean "melted, then cast in a mold". Check our good friend dictionary.com.

      It would be very impractical to drive a tractor trailer full of MELTED, HOT aluminum anyplace, as it would cool fairly rapidly.

      So, I think we'd all like to see some this "one accident" that you speak of. If only because if this is true, it's fucking cool. But I think you're full of BS.

  5. Ancient! by TintinX · · Score: 1

    That vid has been out for many weeks.
    It's very cool though. Particularly the interview with Mitnick.

  6. BAH by Aliencow · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is as much "hacker" as Sum 41 is punk.

    1. Re:BAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, or "The Man Show" is human.

    2. Re:BAH by LordoftheFrings · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd have to disagree. For the average person, this is quite the hacking video. It's got windows password cracking, some hardware fun, and do you even KNOW who Kevin Mitnick is?

    3. Re:BAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      agreed. But many people believe sum 41 is punk.

    4. Re:BAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Well, what do you expect?

      "TheBroken" is a project of Kevin Rose, a co-host of Call For Help and Screen Savers on TechTV. He's a smart guy, but you have to remember who his audience typically is!

    5. Re:BAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is Sum 41?

    6. Re:BAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sum41 is more punk than Avril Levigne.

    7. Re:BAH by proj_2501 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      you have done nothing except prove the parent's point.

    8. Re:BAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah Im sure he knows who Mitnick was, he was an average hacker who got through because of social hacking.
      He is well known but that doesnt mean we should kiss hte ground he walks on.
      Its like Stallone, hes famous, has been in countless movies but is he a good actor?
      One word: Oscar (the movie)

      Of course hes a cause celebre for many reasons. The one that got me interested was the amount the companies say he caused in damage., That whole deal was truly disgusting.

      zak

    9. Re:BAH by blue+inferno · · Score: 0, Redundant

      yeh thats true they are very wannabe hackers you know its "i can hax a windoze passwerd lok at meh!"
      good for you so can i its not really that impressive
      im subscribed the the forum though lol the video is funny though

    10. Re:BAH by Excen · · Score: 2, Funny

      but you have to remember who his audience typically is!

      The Fark.com crowd?

      --
      "No beer until you finish your tequila!" -Leela's Dad
    11. Re:BAH by Throtex · · Score: 1

      Hmm... this post seems to be bringing the script kiddies out of the woodwork around here.

    12. Re:BAH by ethx1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd have to disagree. For the average person, this is quite the hacking video. For the average hip hop fan, Sum41 is quite the punk band.

      The parent post said it perfectly. You have only made his/her point.

    13. Re:BAH by qazamotto · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Come on now, I think Over The Top was one of his better acting jobs!

    14. Re:BAH by Mr.+McGibby · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Could we PLEASE not start a hacker pissing war here? Because that is exactly what your comment is gonna do.

      "I'm more leet than you are! Na na na na!"

      --
      Mad Software: Rantings on Developing So
    15. Re:BAH by pompousjerk · · Score: 2, Informative

      Exactly. But this is show is so recockulously bad that it's funny.

      One of the tools they plug, though--Knoppix STD--is pretty damn cool.

    16. Re:BAH by Aliencow · · Score: 1

      True, Knoppix-STD includes :
      snort 2.1.0: everyone's favorite networks (A)IDS..

      It's awesome !

    17. Re:BAH by EulerX07 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Sum41 is right up there with Avril Lavigne and Simple Plan, those ex-"Reset" sell-outs that play those bland faux-teen songs and make money doing movie songs and being puppets for the RIAA.

      I heard on the radio that Avril Lavigne once kicked a guy in the nuts because he was annoying her. Oooh, how tough is that? Please, someone protect me from the 85 pound girl! Oh, and her bring something to eat at the same time will you?

      I'm not even posting this anonymously, that must REAL punk on their scale.

    18. Re:BAH by thelasttemptation · · Score: 1

      nope, even lower! The slashdot crowd!

    19. Re:BAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i'm not sure if you're talking about the soundtrack or just making a random analogy, but that was nofx.

    20. Re:BAH by edbarrett · · Score: 3, Funny

      I had 5 kids under the age of 10 dancing to the censored version of "Police Truck" in the opening of THPS1 this weekend. And it brought a tear to my eye.

      f33r m3.

    21. Re:BAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the hell do the censored lyrics look like?!

      Reminds me of when levi's wanted to use holiday in cambodia for one of their commercials. WTF are these people thinking?

      Like the royal caribbean commercial with iggy pop's "lust for life", whenever I'm watching it and anyone else is in the room I like to remind them that the song is about heroin addiction, not exotic cruises.

    22. Re:BAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure if the parent comment deserves to be marked more Insightful than Funny!

      While mildly watchable (and pretty well produced for an "amateur" show), the only people who'll find this video of any use are the same script kiddie wannabees that thought "Hackers" was both cool and realistic (excepting any references to Ms. "pert & pouting" Jolie of course).

      The section on Windows password hacking is a bit of a joke - wow, if you can get unrestricted physical access to a machine you can own it, who'd have thought!

      The section on console modding is useless - watch us take the lids off our consoles that *have already had the modchips installed*, we won't show you how to solder or install them or much else. Lame.

      The interview with Mitnick is probably the best of the lot, but doesn't provide anything insightful - it's just "I got into phreaking and HAM, then computers and social engineering. The law got onto me so I did a bit of ID fraud, then got busted for being careless/stupid and went to jail." with most of the talk being on how being in prison sucked, no shit! Nothing about any cool shit he got up to; a S.E. tale would've gone a long way into making this video worthy. Fair play for not being a bitch when your stuff got nicked though Kevin, otherwise you'd still be walking funny.

      As for the comment saying that the parent'll start a "hacker pissing war", oh pleaaaase! The parent is BANG ON: this video's about as l33t as "phrack for dummies"; it's a complete non-issue.

    23. Re:BAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best hackers are by definition people you have never heard of. Except maybe Cap'n Crunch; that guy is a badass.

    24. Re:BAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [EDIT] Sum41 are AS punk as Avril Levigne.

    25. Re:BAH by OmegaBlac · · Score: 1
      What is Sum 41?
      What? 40+1=41 This elementary math people! No child left behind my a??!
    26. Re:BAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Corrupt them when they're young, I say!

      gg!

    27. Re:BAH by edbarrett · · Score: 1

      Oh god, those lust for life commercials...

      Anyway, there are two bits covered over in THPS:

      "We'll beat you blue till you shit in your pants" becomes "We'll beat you blue"

      "There's six of us bitch, so suck on my dick" becomes "There's six of us" and I want to say they did a sloppy edit on "bitch" so it comes out "bi..." but I don't remember for sure.

  7. Can I make it clear... by JoeBaldwin · · Score: 1, Insightful

    That if you do not use BT to DL this then you are officially a TOOL?

    This message brought to you by People With Vested Interests In Things Like Downloading Large Files.

    1. Re:Can I make it clear... by NickDngr · · Score: 1

      Why would I use BT when I am getting 500KB/sec directly from the server?

      --
      Yoda of Borg am I! Assimilated shall you be! Futile resistance is, hmm?
    2. Re:Can I make it clear... by illuvata · · Score: 1

      or possibly you are somebody who can't use bittorrent. remember this story about how it might gain more acceptance? well, it hasn't happend yet, so not everybody is able to use BT

    3. Re:Can I make it clear... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because you're a TOOL

    4. Re:Can I make it clear... by wed128 · · Score: 1

      yea...i used to use BT...untill PSU bought all it's students a napster account (which only works on certian versions of windows...BAH) to justify firewalling bittorrent into oblivion. I wish i could use it, i really do. It's the best file-distribution method since FTP, in my opinion...

    5. Re:Can I make it clear... by falsified · · Score: 1
      We're tools because we're not falling into sheep mentality and getting BitTorrent because it's the flavor of the week?

      BitTorrent is okay but if there are ftp/http mirrors that don't require me to get a new product (unnecessary consumerism even if it is free) then why the hell wouldn't I use them?

      "If you don't drink Coca-Cola you are officially a TOOL."

      --
      HI, MY NAME IS ISAAC.
    6. Re:Can I make it clear... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Look at me! I'm a rebel! I rock so much, I've had a humour-bypass.


      Please grow up. thanks.
      Oooh my Pressciousss bandwidth! Wants to keeps it all to myselves.

  8. Spin-Off by Bs15 · · Score: 3, Funny

    These guys came from TechTV. Kinda like a spin-off show of the screen savers. What next? Leo LaPorte and Patrick Norton get their own spin-off?

    1. Re:Spin-Off by cplater · · Score: 0, Troll

      While this has been plugged a few times on TSS on TechTV, I always got the feeling that it was not officially endorsed by TechTV. The interview w/ Mitnick was OK, but they've covered that already on TSS.

      --
      -- Charles A. Plater
    2. Re:Spin-Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mostly it's 2600 wannabe's and posers...

      I find them exteremely silly and sad... mostly because of their lack of knowlege and their attempts to look "cool"

      nice to see everyone wanting to copy everyone else..

      when are we going to get a hacker/anarchist show with eminem clones hosting it talking about how they are oppressed and need to get in touch with their homies in da hood?

    3. Re:Spin-Off by LostCluster · · Score: 2, Interesting

      While this has been plugged a few times on TSS on TechTV, I always got the feeling that it was not officially endorsed by TechTV.

      Exactly. This is more or less people from TechTV doing a show that TechTV rejected the concept of just for the fun of doing it. Dan answers the phones at TSS and does an occasional segment, Kevin Rose has just been promoted to co-host of TSS as Leo Laporte will be focusing his efforts on a revamped Call For Help show starting in a couple weeks. They're also working with some of their cameraman friends from TechTV.

      Even Mitnick has a TechTV connection. Darci Wood, Kevin's girlfriend used to be a contributor on TSS, and they met on the set. She left the show in order to move to L.A. to live with him.

    4. Re:Spin-Off by michael+path · · Score: 4, Funny

      Even Mitnick has a TechTV connection. Darci Wood, Kevin's girlfriend used to be a contributor on TSS, and they met on the set. She left the show in order to move to L.A. to live with him.

      Damn. Talk about Social Engineering.

    5. Re:Spin-Off by Str8Dog · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Now if we can get Kevin and Sara to quit kissing each others asses on the show, it might be a little more entertaining...

      I personally can't stand Leo and the combination of Pat and Kevin I think will be very fun to watch. Especially with Pats lowfi leanings and Kevins darkside tendancies...

      --


      Str8Dog
      using System.Darkside; public
    6. Re:Spin-Off by samhart · · Score: 1

      Well, and the thing is, pretty much everything on here is what I would classify as "poser" or script-kiddie junk. I mean, if you aren't familier with the fact that LM hashes are trash (and that your SAMBA server shouldn't support them ;-) and the fact that we've had the Linux-based password reset and Knoppix-STD for a while now, then you aren't much of a security guy.

      If anything in this video is news to you, then you better not be working as a sysadmin. Because all the little teenage punk kids feeling 1337 after watching this stupid video will own your ass.

    7. Re:Spin-Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who the hell would be Kevin's girlfriend?! He's the prototypical chubby, ugly-faced dweeby dork.

      He isn't even a *geek*.. just... a dork.

    8. Re:Spin-Off by bfg9000 · · Score: 1

      Best.Screensavers.Host.Ever

      I'm not kidding. Never enjoyed a show as much as when Wil cut loose and flamed EVERYBODY in sight. I was literally crying and holding my guts by the end. I never knew he had that much razor-sharp bitter inside. Damn good show.

      Oh, geez. What a way to respond to a post about how bad the ass-kissing is on that show. Whatever, it ruled!

      --

      I'm not normally an irrational zealous dickhead, but I figure "When in Rome..."

    9. Re:Spin-Off by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1

      I agree. I was working a string of late nights that week so I was missing the show. Didn't even know Wil was guest-hosting. Managed to get home at a decent hour Friday and caught 3/4 of Wil and Kevin hosting. Good stuff. They should have Wil on more often.

    10. Re:Spin-Off by akb · · Score: 1

      Obviously the show is not intended for sysadmins, its intended for tech leaning average people. I've done the same explanation about wireless security and pointed people to the same NT password reset tool as were presented on the show to my friends.

    11. Re:Spin-Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the same could also be said of Kevin Smith, appearance-wise. Except he *is* cool as fuck, no doubt about it.

      I guess some geeks think of Mr. Mitnick in the same way, and his GF happens to be one of them?

  9. Yes... by James+A.+M.+Joyce · · Score: 1

    ...because we all know that everyone only uses their password hacking knowledge to get back into their own machines after forgetting the password. Feh. This just sounds like "Jackass" with computers.

  10. Re:Just one question by cplater · · Score: 3, Funny

    It wouldn't be TheBroken without Ramzi! :)

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    -- Charles A. Plater
  11. *ahem* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's called password cracking. C'mon, I expect more from a slashdot poster.

  12. watch the torrent go... by jeffcm · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Wow, this is quite amazing as I sit here and watch the Torrent. The number of people connecting to it is expanding exponentially!

    1. Re:watch the torrent go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How exactly do you get the tracker stats.

    2. Re:watch the torrent go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    3. Re:watch the torrent go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use torrentspy.

    4. Re:watch the torrent go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am beginning to question how great bittorrent really is. The torrent is crawling at a 6 bps (with no k) while the direct download is still giving me over 100kbs. I am uploading like crazy though.

    5. Re:watch the torrent go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does anybody have something for Linux? I do not run Windows. AFAIK, TorrentSpy is only for Windows.

    6. Re:watch the torrent go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm getting 180kbps down / 60kbps up.

      I found this from some bittorrent FAQ:

      Your upload is choking your download, meaning: because you're uploading @ high or full speed, there is nothing
      left to download, there are several ways to fix this:
      - Use a client that can limit your upload: Azureus, ABC, Shadows: limit to around 80% of your maximum upload
      (so if your max is 10 kb\s you limit to 8 kb\s)
      - Use a program called Netlimiter to limit your upload

    7. Re:watch the torrent go... by DarkMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just run a HTTP connection to the tracker. btshowmetainfo from the offical bt dist will give you the tracker URL: in this case http://fpcat.homelinux.org:6969/

      Stick that in a web browser, and ta-da! current stats report. I suspect that not all trackers support this, but this one does.

    8. Re:watch the torrent go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



      That page also has links to some other .torrent files, including Freedom Downtime.

  13. Divx only? by Matey-O · · Score: 1

    So what if I don't WANT to install spyware?

    --
    "Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus."
    1. Re:Divx only? by daserver · · Score: 4, Informative

      Install a free alternative like ffmpeg.

    2. Re:Divx only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you need to learn about this windows invention called "Kazaa lite ++ codec pack"

      1. http://www.google.com
      2. search for kazaa lite ++ codec pack
      3. Download the codec pack
      4. It will install the full divx codec
      5. ???
      6. Profit

    3. Re:Divx only? by Brando_Calrisean · · Score: 0

      I agree with you. It really ticks me off that people consistently encode with this format, and I always find myself hunting for a spyware-free version of the blasted thing when I want to show a friend a video on his machine.

      --
      Don't call me a cowboy, and don't tell me to slow down!
    4. Re:Divx only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'd install a version of the divx codec that didn't contain any. A Usenet search for "divx spyware" has all the info.

    5. Re:Divx only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then get MPlayer

    6. Re:Divx only? by supergiovane · · Score: 5, Informative

      So download the bare codec for Windows, for example.

      --
      Signatures are for stupids.
    7. Re:Divx only? by YomikoReadman · · Score: 1

      go here.

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      I have no regrets, this is the only path.
      My whole life has been "UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS"
    8. Re:Divx only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then get a free player like VLC. You sir, are a foghat.

    9. Re:Divx only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get ffdshow
      Plays DivX, XviD and many others...

    10. Re:Divx only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    11. Re:Divx only? by IvyMike · · Score: 1

      The trick to playing random downloaded video in this day and age is to download a pack of codecs. For Windows, I recommend DefilerPak; it doesn't have every codec, but it has the most important ones and seems to have caused me the least amount of headache. You could also try the K-Lite Codec Pack, which also seems to to work pretty well.

    12. Re:Divx only? by cptgrudge · · Score: 1
      Kill two (three?) birds with one stone and install the K-Lite Mega Codec Pack.

      It replaces and plays Quicktime, Realplayer, Windows Media, and much more. It comes with encoding options as well.

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    13. Re:Divx only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      VideoLAN Client is a player which uses ffmpeg.

      Available for *NIX, MacOS X and Windows.

    14. Re:Divx only? by delus10n0 · · Score: 1

      Codec packs in general are asking for trouble. More often than not, they install all sorts of crap you don't need.

      Just go grab ffdshow from sourceforge, and you're set to play divx/xvid/mpeg4/etc.

      I'd install MatrixMixer and AC3Filter (also on SourceForge) while you're at it, as well.

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    15. Re:Divx only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A better alternative to the official divx codec (better = no spyware + higher quality + plays xvid + full codec free for non-comercial use) is 3ivx (for mac or windows).

      (Of course all linux users already know mplayer is great for them (also great for OS X by the way))

    16. Re:Divx only? by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

      a) While I agree that it has been made impressively difficult to locate non-evil Divx codecs for Windows (thought not as bad as trying to obtain the free RealPlayer for Windows), it can be done.

      b) Install said spyware, remove said spyware with Ad-Aware. Ugly, but it works.

      c) Use Mplayer on Linux. While I agree that this is certainly not a "quick fix" solution, it *is* terribly nice in the long run.

      As an interesting note -- ultimately, as Linux catches on, spyware for Linux will begin to appear. At that point, the value of distributor-packaged software will rise, so Red Hat, SuSE, etc may be able to make more money. Actually, it would be a good idea for distros to start making policies on applications with spyware *now*, because it will come up. Is Debian going to have an "adware" section, or simply ban evil software?

    17. Re:Divx only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, mplayer can be a quick fix solution if mplayer is used directly on a bootable linux distribution designed for playing videos. No need to install linux on your hard drive to play videos.

    18. Re:Divx only? by Naffer · · Score: 1

      Yea, avoid codec packs at all cost. I do lots of encoding so I downloaded the bare Divx Codec, the Xvid codec, the LAME MP3 codec, and the sourceforge AC3 codec. You shouldn't need any more then that and if you find the files indiviually you don't have to worry about nasty codec packs.

    19. Re:Divx only? by -tji · · Score: 1

      VLC is what I used..

      http://www.videolan.org/

    20. Re:Divx only? by NineNine · · Score: 1

      Divx is a codec. Saying that a codec contains spyware is like saying that you can get a virus from a ping.

    21. Re:Divx only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've not once ever had a problem with the k-lite codec pack.

      It allows me to play anything and everything I've ever thrown at it, and I don't have to use the crapware that is Quicktime Player or Real.

      Honestly, I don't see what the issue is.

    22. Re:Divx only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only shows up as a black area for the video here.

    23. Re:Divx only? by TequilaMonster · · Score: 1

      Very handy, this.

      The BBC has a special, ad and nasty stuff-free version of realplayer available here.

      Apparently the BBC would not distribute the nasty version because, as a publicly funded organisation, they couldn't be seen to be doing that.

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    24. Re:Divx only? by spike+hay · · Score: 1

      Jesus. There are numerous free versions of the DIVX codec. It and XVID offer the best quality out there, by far. Just go download Kazaa Lite codec pack or the Defiler Pack.

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    25. Re:Divx only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you an a dual-head machine, or using video-out, or some other setup that might cause problems for an overlay window?

      On my dual-head machine, VLC just gives a black box on the secondary display. But, it works fine on the primary head.

    26. Re:Divx only? by BiteMyShinyMetalAss · · Score: 1

      The Kazaa Lite Codec Pack provides codecs for many formats, and it doesn't even require you to install Kazaa/Kazaa Lite. Available from http://www.k-litecodecpack.com/ Not a member, just a satisfied customer.

    27. Re:Divx only? by jrockway · · Score: 1

      > as Linux catches on, spyware for Linux will begin to appear

      Yes, because non-root users can install software that starts at boot-time. Oh wait. No.

      You'd have to save your X session every time, or just add the spyware to .xsession if you'd like that to happen. And I don't see myself doing that.

      And even then, your mom's dumb spyware won't affect your account. Processes running as one user can't see another user's data. Oh no. Spyware stopped by good design.

      Windows is insecure by design. Stop thinking that because everyone uses Windows it has lots of viruses and spyware. It's ALSO because it's very poorly designed. Sad but true.

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    28. Re:Divx only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2 holes in your argument:
      1. most, if not all, software needs to be installed as root. If an idiot installs Linux on his home computer, he will know his root password (it's "password"). Developers could also include spyware in an otherwise useful program and not tell anybody, so most users won't know not to install it.

      2. "processes running as one user can't see another user's data". Mostly because they're on completely different computers. Unless you have a huge server in the basement and make your whole family use terminals. Most home installs only have one user logged in at once, and if they install it as root, the spyware can access your stuff. Anyway, data isn't the issue. If the spyware is running, it reduces computer performance. That's why I have Ad-Aware on my Windows partition, not because I don't want advertisers knowing about my Slashdot use.

      Linux may reduce the performance concerns, though. The multitasking system is far more efficient than Windows. Just set a process as nice, and you won't even notice that it's running.

    29. Re:Divx only? by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1


      Yes, because non-root users can install software that starts at boot-time. Oh wait. No.

      This is also the case on Windows. On both Linux and Windows, it is possible to run *once that user logs in* or install systemwide *if the root account is used for installation*. If a box stays up for a while, you can just *keep* running after a non-root user logs off.

      And even then, your mom's dumb spyware won't affect your account. Processes running as one user can't see another user's data. Oh no. Spyware stopped by good design.

      Actually, (frusteratingly) Linux does not currently provide restricted /proc functionality out of box. So processes do have an extensive degree of access to stuff running as other users, even if there are some benefits to Linux. Suppose I want to see what websites are being accessed by the current user of the machine (who may not be the user who I am running as). I run lsof and search for remote connections to port 80.

      You'd have to save your X session every time, or just add the spyware to .xsession if you'd like that to happen. And I don't see myself doing that.

      No, the spyware would. Most Windows users don't explicitly add spyware to their Startup folder. Or maybe it would go in your .bashrc. Or .bash_login. Or God knows what.

      Windows is insecure by design. Stop thinking that because everyone uses Windows it has lots of viruses and spyware. It's ALSO because it's very poorly designed. Sad but true.

      Windows isn't perfectly written. Neither is Linux. Windows' primary architectural problems (IMHO) come from the integrated MSIE, which is very difficult to regulate and provides functionality to many applications, and from the fact that the "GUI" is so fundamental to the system, exposing vulnerabilities like the one to the "shatter" attacks. Windows is not simply massively poorly designed WRT security. The kernel is actually pretty solid. Windows has its problems, but it's not as if the "everyone uses Windows and those users aren't generally technically competent" argument isn't a dominant one.

    30. Re:Divx only? by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 1

      Saying that a codec contains spyware is like saying that you can get a virus from a ping.

      you can get viruses from pings?!

      * grabs his aluminum foil hat. and wraps it around his ethernet port *

      (thats a joke for those who don't dabble in such matters)

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    31. Re:Divx only? by jean-guy69 · · Score: 1
      xvid codec handles divx without problem. there are some win32 binaries by koepi.

      it is compiled in the great multiplatform media player VLC.

  14. You sure? by Moth7 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And you say this on a community that lives off downloads of large files? Think linux iso for a second...

    1. Re:You sure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it, and i drool.......... mmmmmmmmmmmmm linux iso............ mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  15. Sure... by Otter · · Score: 5, Funny
    Think "The Man Show" meets computers.

    Not that I've watched it yet, but I'm guessing there's at least one aspect of The Man Show that's not going to appear in this video.

    Unless you count Mitnick's.

    1. Re:Sure... by kb0pin · · Score: 3, Funny

      What! No supermodels on trampolines! Some torrent this is.

    2. Re:Sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Unless you count Mitnick's.

      Hey, a B cup is a B cup.

    3. Re:Sure... by FortKnox · · Score: 3, Funny

      You want the man show meets computers? Try HaXXXor.com (Not safe for work).

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    4. Re:Sure... by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      Kevin Rose could try to talk his girlfriend into getting involved... she did recently get an offer from Playboy afterall.

    5. Re:Sure... by ameoba · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Oh boy. Cheap, nasty 3rd rate pr0n whores draped over computers. Are these the rejects from Easy Rider and lowrider mags?

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    6. Re:Sure... by pompousjerk · · Score: 1

      Even includes nmap training, where by 'training' I mean 'obviously reading a script off an iBook and then masturbating for no reason'.

      Try not to kill Fyodor's server.

    7. Re:Sure... by Kent+Recal · · Score: 1

      Low. Very, very low rider.

  16. Poor guys... by Universal+Nerd · · Score: 3, Informative

    Only one of the files are on BitTorrent, the other two are straight up downloads... I sense a server meltdown on the horizon.

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    1. Re:Poor guys... by akb · · Score: 1

      I downloaded the file twice as fast from the mac.com mirror as I did from BT. About 30 min vs 60 min.

    2. Re:Poor guys... by Wakkow · · Score: 1

      The Torrent server hosting the third one seems to have the other two also.

  17. If you have WinAMP by ajiva · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you have Winamp you can click on "TV" and watch this and many other shows, music videos, etc. The bitrates available range from 56k for modems, all the way to 1000k for broadband, and everywhere in between.

  18. Oh yeah! by tuxlove · · Score: 5, Funny

    Think "The Man Show" meets computers.

    Oh yeah! Can't wait to see those scantily clad computers!

    1. Re:Oh yeah! by Gudlyf · · Score: 5, Funny
      "Oh yeah! Can't wait to see those scantily clad computers!"

      Or CPU's bouncing on Trampolines!

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    2. Re:Oh yeah! by sharkey · · Score: 1

      Mmmmm, Bytties!

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    3. Re:Oh yeah! by mahdi13 · · Score: 1
      Think "The Man Show" meets computers. Oh yeah! Can't wait to see those scantily clad computers!
      make that
      Scantily clad computers guzziling beer watching midget porn
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    4. Re:Oh yeah! by Shurhaian · · Score: 1

      I've seen a tiny fraction of the case-modding stuff out there. Given that a great deal of it seems to center around windows or all-out clear cases, and fancy/EL/UV-fluorescent/just-plain-lit-up cables to see inside them, I think they qualify as scantily-clad, easily. And the computer won't complain if you keep dressing it less and less, as long as you've got parts where it counts; and free software means it doesn't keep nagging you for any more money than you WANT to spend on it! Add porn into the mix, and...

      Remind me again why girlfriends are so desirable?

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    5. Re:Oh yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remind me again why girlfriends are so desirable?

      Boobies!!! Unless of course you are gay, in which case boobs have no power over you.

    6. Re:Oh yeah! by Shurhaian · · Score: 1

      Gay XOR female.

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    7. Re:Oh yeah! by Tantrum420 · · Score: 1

      You mean the Giggies?

      T

  19. Just like the Man Show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Except the bouncing jugs are on guys.

    1. Re:Just like the Man Show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hahahahahaha...

      ewww, that's nasty.

  20. All the same... by Shurhaian · · Score: 1

    Based on another thing mentioned in the summary(don't have universal net access, much less BitTorrent, from work to see the darn thing yet), I now have this temptation to look up the formula for thermite whenever I finally manage to upgrade from my current unstable POS. Take the old shell somewhere sheltered and put it on a nice, durable surface, don welding glasses, light up a blowtorch, and let 'er rip.

    Saw the thermite reaction only once in Chemistry, admittedly, but it still seems like a fun way to destroy my hated crashmaster box. Chem rather than CompSci, but isn't that still a nerdy way to do things?

    Of course, if thermite is how they actually achieve the 3000 degree iron that's mentioned, so much the better.

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    1. Re:All the same... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      25% alumininum filings, 75% iron filings. Light match, enjoy.

    2. Re:All the same... by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wasn't it Aluminium with iron oxide? I thought it was a redox reaction.

    3. Re:All the same... by Shurhaian · · Score: 1

      Either way, my mistake. I was thinking of magnesium, but now I remember that thermite, indeed, doesn't take too much to ignite. And it's even more violent when it does(though there's definitely a reason magnesium is used in spelunkers' lights; maybe not so much heat, but it sure is bright).

      Oh, and it wouldn't take much to oxidise iron filings. Not so easy is aluminum, whose surface oxidises into a tough aluminum oxide layermore or less instantly on exposure to air, but nevertheless, fine filings would oxidise in fairly short order - especially if they were "cooked" a little in a humid environment.

      Given the readiness with which aluminum oxidises, it does make sense for the iron oxide to be reduced - especially since thermite was used to weld iron rails together.

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    4. Re:All the same... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can use burning magnesium to ignite the thermite -- a strip of magnesium will easily light with a normal lighter but thermite may well not. A burning strip of magnesium will almost certainly cause the thermite to burn though.

  21. Easy fix by Brightest+Light · · Score: 4, Informative
    Oldversion.com

    Older versions of DivX don't have the spyware!

    1. Re:Easy fix by baudilus · · Score: 2, Funny

      haha I clicked that and was hit with the following message:

      SpyBot-S&D has blocked the download of "Avenue A, Inc."!

      I know one has nothing to do with the other but still struck me as ironic.

    2. Re:Easy fix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Older versions of DivX don't have the spyware!

      That's a bandaid fix. Do the right thing. Linux is unaffected by this spyware.

  22. It's a beautiful thing by fizban · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's interesting to see the torrent download rate gradually increase as more and more people start linking to the file from slashdot's site and get more and more of the file. Very cool. Isn't technology wonderful?

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    1. Re:It's a beautiful thing by Cornelius+the+Great · · Score: 1

      "It's interesting to see the torrent download rate gradually increase as more and more people start linking to the file from slashdot's site and get more and more of the file. Very cool. Isn't technology wonderful?"

      Yeah, wonderful until the tracker itself gets /.ed... Considering that my Azureus client is now having a hard time trying to update the tracker status, I'd say that it's possible it may be starting to happen.

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  23. Bleh...... by Kenja · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Think "The Man Show" meets computers."

    and now we'll end our show, like we do every show, with geeks on trampolines.

    shudder......

    --

    "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
  24. a bit old by SteveXE · · Score: 1

    A bit behind the times arent we, this was posted over a month ago.

  25. Re:Poor guys... - Just Test Rats by Lord+Haha · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well consider them a test case to see if a direct link to the torrent on /. can stop a potential download... If it works it shows torrents will save /. websites, if not let the internet gods spare their server from the masses about to descend upon it.

  26. torrennts... by minus_273 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    hmm the bittorrent paper says that it does not scale beyond roughly 2000 users. Now, given the number of people who come to /. and the duration of the downloads, it would be interesting to see if the torrent really does die. I have seen the graphs of results going beyond 2600 and it looked prettly bad. Observing the torrent die may prove itself to be more interesting than

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    1. Re:torrennts... by sfire · · Score: 1

      The link forgot the f of pdf. Try here

    2. Re:torrennts... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A quote from Azureus' changelog:

      Tracker - various performance enhancements such as announce/scrape caching. Tested to 500,000 peers on single torrent

      http://azureus.sourceforge.net/changelog_v2.php

      Also torrents with thousands of peers and seeds aren't unusual so this won't go down with puny few thousand users downloading at once.

    3. Re:torrennts... by Naffer · · Score: 3, Informative

      Take a look at http://a.scarywater.net/. They distribtute anime torrents and do so quite successfully with torrets involving thousands of peers. When a new Naruto episode comes out you can often see over 10,000 peers on a single torrent. Of course your computer won't connect to any more then 30 to 50, but the whole point is that everyone is somehow connected to everybody else and the files get around.

    4. Re:torrennts... by andrewm · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, it has hit 1973 leechers and 381 seeds so far (2354)... and is still growing.

      I think in this case the only downside would be tracker death, but that's why there is the multi-tracker "announce-list" extension (though this torrent doesn't use it).

      There are lots of seeds (~20%), the file is relatively small (152.8MB), and the pieces are quite small (256KB).

      It is nice to see BitTorrent being used for what it was designed: leagal mass distribution.

    5. Re:torrennts... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Observing the torrent die may prove itself to be more interesting than

      I'm guessing your thread was provided through bittorrent. I guess we know what happens when it scales to the full /. user base.

    6. Re:torrennts... by FPCat · · Score: 1

      The torrent isn't causing much of a hit on the machine the tracker is running on... I'm posting this message from it!

    7. Re:torrennts... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      leagal mass distribution.

      Of a show telling you how to break the law.

      I love ironing.

    8. Re:torrennts... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its irony, dumbass.

  27. The video is fucking hilarious by benploni · · Score: 1

    I'm laughing my head off. They have a great sense of humor. They're what the BBS anarchy-files scene would be, if it had cheap digital video camera and bittorrent.

  28. Mirror List by Novanix · · Score: 3, Informative

    From: http://forums.thebroken.org/index.php?showtopic=85 88 [FAST] http://homepage.mac.com/kevinrose/thebroken_3.avi Scire: http://www.sourcehack.com/thebroken.htm [Do not right click, you actually have to goto the page before downloading] mdubin: http://maxdubin.com/The_Broken_3.html [Do not right click, you actually have to goto the page before downloading] CypherXero: http://store.mywebdriver.com/cypherxero/vi...thebr oken_3.avi thebroken server: http://www.thebroken.org/episodes/03/thebroken_3.a vi spaceghost7200: http://www.ghostcorp.net/downloads/thebroken_3.avi giraphe: http://giraphe.com/thebroken_3.avi Lone: http://www.files.gam3on.com/thebroken_3.avi Irongeek: http://orangutan.ius.edu/thebroken/thebroken_3.avi

    1. Re:Mirror List by Novanix · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bah stupid html formatting:
      It is from: http://forums.thebroken.org/index.php?showtopic=85 88
      FAST]
      http://homepage.mac.com/kevinrose/thebr oken_3.avi

      Scire:
      http://www.sourcehack.com/thebroken.htm
      [Do not right click, you actually have to goto the page before downloading]

      mdubin:
      http://maxdubin.com/The_Broken_3.html
      [Do not right click, you actually have to goto the page before downloading]

      CypherXero:
      http://store.mywebdriver.com/cypher xero/vi...thebr oken_3.avi

      thebroken server:
      http://www.thebroken.org/episodes/03/theb roken_3.a vi

      spaceghost7200:
      http://www.ghostcorp.net/downlo ads/thebroken_3.avi

      giraphe:
      http://giraphe.com/thebroken_3.avi

      Lone:
      http://www.files.gam3on.com/thebroken_3.a vi

      Irongeek:
      http://orangutan.ius.edu/thebroken/th ebroken_3.avi

  29. Goddamnit! by GoNINzo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Now there are zero 100% completed people on this torrent because everyone is hitting 100% and disconnecting. This defeats the entire purpose of a torrent!

    At least do it for a half-hour after you've completed... that way someone else has a chance of finishing and covering for you after you leave!

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    1. Re:Goddamnit! by ameoba · · Score: 1

      WTF are you talking about? I'm seeing well over 200 seeds, and like a 7:1 leech:seed ratio, which is pretty decent, especially for a young torrent (it may have been around for a while, but the flood of /. users is new to it).

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    2. Re:Goddamnit! by mrjackson2000 · · Score: 1

      i'm seeing 262 seeds right now

    3. Re:Goddamnit! by AGTiny · · Score: 1

      Just for kicks I uncapped my upload speed on my 100mbit server. I am pushing out only around ~1.4MB/sec (12-13Mbit). You'd think it could be higher...I wonder if there are some limitations within the BT protocol.

    4. Re:Goddamnit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That limit is most likely the limit of the specific peers you are uploading to combined. Bittorrent by default uploads to around 4 or so people max, so if their combined max download speed is less than your upstream, you will have spare, unused upstream. Try up'ing the minimum uploads to something a lot higher than the default max (is it around 5 or 6?) to around 10 or 20 and you can be pretty much guaranteed that your upstream will be maxed.

    5. Re:Goddamnit! by NineNine · · Score: 1

      I wonder if there are some limitations within the BT protocol.

      The limitation isn't the protocl, but the trackers that coordinate all of the pieces moving around. Trackers aren't designed to handle this much traffic, and most will start to go belly up around 2K peers.

    6. Re:Goddamnit! by cheide · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unfortunately some ISPs are rather fascist about limits. I'd rather not exhaust my entire upload allowance for the month in a single day!

      I do try to let it run until I've uploaded at least the same amount as downloaded though.

    7. Re:Goddamnit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least do it for a half-hour after you've completed... that way someone else has a chance of finishing and covering for you after you leave! ...must...resist...sexual...jokes...

    8. Re:Goddamnit! by Ninja+Programmer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This speaks to a weakness in the torrent architecture. If, instead, they did a random offset rotational down load (i.e., the download would start at an arbitrary offset, then return to the beginning for each user) then this would not be an issue.

    9. Re:Goddamnit! by bocee · · Score: 1

      If there are some parts that only a few peers have on the network, a good client will try to get those first. And a bad client will just download parts at random. So this isn't really a huge problem.

      --john

    10. Re:Goddamnit! by evilviper · · Score: 1

      Funny that Torrent (which gets high praise here on slashdot despite my continual reality checks) doesn't do that form of load-balancing, while Gnutella does, yet gets derided as inferior.

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    11. Re:Goddamnit! by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      This speaks to a weakness in the torrent architecture.

      Not really.

      If, instead, they did a random offset rotational down load

      Impossible to enforce. The server doesn't know what portions of the file a client has. It must trust the client to tell it. Therefore an arch whose performance depending upon downloads starting from non-beginning would be vulnerable to modified clients

      But even if it were enforceable, it wouldn't help anyhow... clients would still tend to disconnect once they have 100% of the file. That's just unavoidable- the server cannot coerce help from a client which doesn't need anything from it.

      Instead, bittorrent actually functions this way: clients with partial files are encouraged to share with other downloaders, because when those others report to the server that they got valid data chunks from someone, he'll get preference from the server.

      (Yes, that could be spoofed too. But if you have control of multiple machines and want to accelerate your download, you may as well just download on all of them.)

    12. Re:Goddamnit! by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      while Gnutella does, yet gets derided as inferior.

      Gnutella's greatest flaws are not in how it downloads files, but in how it searches for them. (Indeed, typical Gnutella users have gotten 90% of their bandwidth used for other people's searches while the attempt to download). Frankly, as long as Gnutella's searching is so devastating to system performance, its downloading efficiency is just irrelevant.

      BitTorrent avoids that problem by only addressing a smaller scope. Instead of handling searching and downloading, it only downloads, and leaves the searching up to external software (such as HTTP servers)

    13. Re:Goddamnit! by cgenman · · Score: 1

      But even if it were enforceable, it wouldn't help anyhow... clients would still tend to disconnect once they have 100% of the file. That's just unavoidable- the server cannot coerce help from a client which doesn't need anything from it.

      The bottleneck comes from that last 1% of the file. The first 99% of the file come down very quickly, but without anyone at all having that last bit, the available bandwidth just dies. If someone disconnects when they have 100% of the file, that's OK because they have served up 75% of the file across any number of chunks. It wouldn't be perfect, but it would distribute the problem and remove the main bottleneck.

    14. Re:Goddamnit! by evilviper · · Score: 1
      (Indeed, typical Gnutella users have gotten 90% of their bandwidth used for other people's searches while the attempt to download).

      The problem with this, is that you are talking about OLD implimentations of Gnutella. These days, it has Leaf/SuperNodes just like Kazaa, and most also have bandwidth controls, so you can allocate the exact maximum ammount of bandwidth you want network traffic to consume.

      BitTorrent avoids that problem by only addressing a smaller scope.

      Yes, but in the process, it inherits many more problems. If the primary server is down, nobody gets to download with Bittorrent... With Gnutella, any host that has the file can be downloaded from, and perhaps best of all, mirrors of the file are searched for, and automatically added.

      The only feature Gnutella doesn't have that bittorrent does is anti-leech built-in, and I've heard that doesn't work too well.
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      Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
  30. Speak for yourself by fm6 · · Score: 1, Interesting
    Bittorrent simply doesn't work on my machine. I'm guessing its because I'm in a private address space behind a Linksys router.

    I'd share my bandwidth if I could. But I'm not willing to expose my machine to a worm-infested, script-kiddie-prowling public internet in order to do it.

    1. Re:Speak for yourself by jackbird · · Score: 5, Informative

      RTFM. You need to open up a port or two. No need to get hysterical.

    2. Re:Speak for yourself by G27+Radio · · Score: 2, Informative

      Download and install Azureus. Forward TCP port 6881 to the machine you will be downloading to (you can tell Azureus to listen on a different port if you don't like 6881.)

      With my cablemodem, setting the max uploads to 4 and the max upload speed to 16KB per second lets me attain speeds up to 400KB per second.

      These are good settings to start with, but you might be able to tweak it to get better speeds depending on your connection. A nice thing about Azureus is when you change your transfer settings they take immediate effect--no applying settings or restarting transfers required.

      If you don't forward a TCP port from your firewall it will still work, but you won't be able to connect to anyone else who doesn't have port forwarding on. Unfortunately, this drastically reduces the number of peers your client can download from.

      Under the server settings I have my override address set to my external IP address and my bind address set to the IP address of the machine I'm downloading to. Not sure if this is necessary, but it works great for me.

      YMMV.

    3. Re:Speak for yourself by NineNine · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's why BT is so great. Paranoid and/or selfish people such as yourself either can't get the file at all, or it could take weeks to download what I can download in half an hour. Long live bit torrent!

    4. Re:Speak for yourself by fm6 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Thanks for the tip. But while I might concede ignorance and stupidity, I find "hysteria" a tad patronizing.

    5. Re:Speak for yourself by fm6 · · Score: 1
      I'm paranoid because I believe in worms and script kiddies? They're real, I tell you! I asked Elvis, and he agrees!

      I actually agree that people shouldn't be allowed be allowed free downloads if they're not willing to share. Except I'm perfectly willing to share, if I can do so in a safe way. I don't care for firewalls (complicated, unreliable, and life-complicating) so it has to be compatible with my private-network scheme. Fortunately, other posters have suggested ways I can do so without exposing my machine to the unclean outside world. I'm going to have to give it a try, for educational purposes if no other reason.

    6. Re:Speak for yourself by JohnFluxx · · Score: 1

      "But I'm not willing to expose my machine to a worm-infested, script-kiddie-prowling public internet in order to do it."

      That sounded like hysteria to me too

    7. Re:Speak for yourself by fm6 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      My mistake for actually cracking a book on computer security. Ignorance is bliss, practical countermeasures are hysteria. Is that how it works?

    8. Re:Speak for yourself by fm6 · · Score: 1
      As you suggested, I looked at the docs. The end-user portion of which is a pretty unhelpful FAQ sheet. Still, it was enough to make me understand that I had to tell the router to pass through 6881. (UDP or TCP? Doesn't say. I tried UDP, and it works.) I also realized that BitTorent had been working all along. It just seemed to hang, because it was taking a long time to find a server. Which happensed because servers didn't like me because I was "refusing" uploads.

      I have to say I'm not impressed with the "standard" BitTorrent client. I don't mind Bram nagging me to send him money. But would it have killed him to add code that said, "I can't seem to bind to an upload port. Fix it or your download speed will suck"? If I ever become a serious BitTorent user, I'll probably use another client, like Azeureus.

    9. Re:Speak for yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      0h n0s, y0u'1l be h4Xx0rz3d!!!1!

    10. Re:Speak for yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It does bind the upload port on the local PC. But nothing will ever connect from the outside world to that port unless you are on a public IP or have the ports forwarded. Hence the problem with NAT, your software can't tell. Bring on ipv6.

    11. Re:Speak for yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's versions of Bittorrent that let you throttle your upload to 0.

      Maybe you should google.

    12. Re:Speak for yourself by NineNine · · Score: 1

      There's versions of Bittorrent that let you throttle your upload to 0

      I know. I use ABC. But if you do that, your download speed is going to be similar. That's the beauty behind it. Anti-leech is built right into the protocol, and there's no way around it, no matter what client you use.

    13. Re:Speak for yourself by jelle · · Score: 1

      It's TCP and port 6881 through 6889 for optimum performance (even though I must say that I usually only see port 6881 connections, but maybe the other ports are in case you have multiple torrent clients running in parallel). If you don't have the ports open & forwarded, you bittorrent may still work but be a lot slower. When I run bittorrent on the wrong machine (the one that doesn't get the forwarded ports) I usually get only 10KB/s, but on the machine that gets the forwarded ports it takes a minute of two and then fully saturates my incoming bandwidth.

      About the 'can't seem to bind' message you would want: The bittorrent client doesn't know if your router doesn't forward the ports, because the binding to it is successful. It just never gets any incoming connections on those sockets...

      On another note, I think bittorrent is a really nice idea, and I would like to see if somebody can modify it so that it can work with smaller files, and then integrate it in "apt-get" so that the 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and friends can download from each other's .deb repositories (with md5sum verification from the main repository of course)

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    14. Re:Speak for yourself by smeg168 · · Score: 1

      try azureus, it is the best client I have found sofar. all java based but the nice thing is that it lets you throttle upstream, normally I wouldnt really care but with comcast around here If I upload over 15k it seriously kills my downstream so I just stick to 15k and leave it running 24/7.

    15. Re:Speak for yourself by dave420 · · Score: 1
      I agree - hysteria all the way. How on earth is opening up a port for bittorrent "exposing [his] machine to a worm-infested ... internet"?

      Some people, really...

    16. Re:Speak for yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just to let you know, your odbc drivers hate your website right now. so much so in fact that they are protesting by not allowing any content.

    17. Re:Speak for yourself by happosai_tendo · · Score: 1

      The standard BitTorrent client also allows you to throttle upstream bandwidth if you add a flag (--max_upload_rate xx and launch it from a command line. You can even throttle the number of upload streams (--max_uploads xx) if you so desire to. If you are used to the "point-and-click" world of Microsoft GUI then you never read any of the documentation, then you probably never knew this was possible.

  31. get over it by seven5 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It sounds like every one here is just too cool for theBroken. Get over yourselves and knock the chip off your shoulders.

    1. Re:get over it by Str8Dog · · Score: 1

      I agree. I have watched all the videos and while they are no 2600 it is still quality geek entertainment.

      The bits with Ramzi alone are worth the download. It is pure comedy gold.

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    2. Re:get over it by wervr · · Score: 1

      ah the memories...I thought 2600 was cool when I was 15 too.

    3. Re:get over it by British · · Score: 1

      Mind you, anything is better than Off The Hook. that show can put you to sleep rather easily. When is Rich the Rebel gonna call this time with a trivial fact about payphones?

  32. why bt and not archive.org? by akb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm curious why people prefer to do their own hosting of self made video files and not use archive.org. They have 500mbps of outgoing bandwidth and hundreds of terabytes of storage. Anyone can upload any amount of multimedia for hosting for free. They'll be around for quite a while longer than whatever rigged solution people come up with on their own.

    1. Re:why bt and not archive.org? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Slashdot would DESTROY 500mbits. Are you kidding?

    2. Re:why bt and not archive.org? by aardwolf204 · · Score: 1

      URL?

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    3. Re:why bt and not archive.org? by akb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They've been /.'d before and survived. The dot com millionaire financing the project has said he'll pay for as much bandwidth and storage as is needed.

      Another plus I forgot to mention is that they'll host any size file. So people upload DVD quality versions of their material and lower quality (mpeg4, vcd, modem quality) get generated automatically. Its nice, some people want to wait for the quality others want it fast.

    4. Re:why bt and not archive.org? by akb · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can upload movies to their Open Source Movies Collection. They have other sections for audio and texts. They don't have an images section, I don't think there's been a demand for it, but I think if there was interest they would do it.

    5. Re:why bt and not archive.org? by wervr · · Score: 1

      Its nice, some people want to wait for the quality others want it fast.

      just like sex!

    6. Re:why bt and not archive.org? by yarbo · · Score: 1

      slashdot couldn't even destroy kernel.org's paltry 250mbps when 2.6 went stable

    7. Re:why bt and not archive.org? by unixbum · · Score: 1

      500mbits is PLENTY OF BANDWIDTH, slashdot would have a hard time bringing that down.

      Lets put this into perspective:
      T1-1.5mbps $200 per month
      T3-45 mbps
      Oc3-155mbps
      oc12-622 mbps $20,000 per month

      An OC12 gives 1.47 Petabytes of bandwith/time per month

      It could very well be that Slashdot it self only has an OC-12.

      Hardly Destroyable...

    8. Re:why bt and not archive.org? by Tantrum420 · · Score: 1

      > T1-1.5mbps $200 per month

      HOLY SHIT!

      Qwest is still charging over a grand for a T1 in our area...

      Fuckers.
      T

    9. Re:why bt and not archive.org? by damiam · · Score: 1

      Slashdot doesn't even need a T3, I'd think. Most of the content is plain text, and most readers only view the frontpage. The major bottlenecks are in the http and database servers, not whatever network connection /. might have.

      --
      It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.
  33. Divx Required?! by MukiMuki · · Score: 5, Informative

    Divx Required? Divx REQUIRED?

    No man, no.

    FFDShow : http://cutka.szm.sk/ffdshow/

    Can I hear a wassup?

    1. Re:Divx Required?! by FrostedWheat · · Score: 1

      Or, just to be backwards.. use XviD. Also free and also great.

    2. Re:Divx Required?! by MeanE · · Score: 1

      This one is quite old though.

      Newer versions can be found at
      http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid= 1054 056131

      Although they might not be "official" builds.

    3. Re:Divx Required?! by shish · · Score: 1

      They mean "A divx compatible decoder", not "the official DivX binaries from divx.com"

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  34. Alternate Site... by The+Slashdolt · · Score: 1

    An alternate site for thebroken.org is now http://theslashdotted.org

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  35. Slow torrent? by IamGarageGuy+2 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    This seems like an oxymoron, but how come this torrent is so slow with this many people supposedly on it? Is there a limit to how many a torrent can hold? Can somebody that is not as clueless as me explain this please.

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    1. Re:Slow torrent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your upload capacity is probably so low nobody wants to give you any data.

    2. Re:Slow torrent? by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      Theoretically, a torrent cannot handle more than 2000 users without a performance downgrade, and I think today we're seeing the proof of that theory. The protocol basically is sendign around so much metadata about who's available that it's starting to drown out the actual signal.

    3. Re:Slow torrent? by AGTiny · · Score: 1

      Using a max_upload_rate of 50KB I pulled the file down in only a couple of minutes at 500-700KB/s :)

    4. Re:Slow torrent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you sure about that? I've been on torrents with > 2200 leechers and 200 seeds and still got decent performance without this so called performance degradation that I have heard about in multiple posts when that supposed limit is reached.

    5. Re:Slow torrent? by Kent+Recal · · Score: 1

      Similar here. max_upload_rate = 10kb. Download went straight to 100kb/s after a few minutes.
      Mr.Torrent, we have a deal! :-)

    6. Re:Slow torrent? by ncc74656 · · Score: 1
      This seems like an oxymoron, but how come this torrent is so slow with this many people supposedly on it?

      Slow? You call ~1.3 Mbps slow? I thought it came through fairly quickly. (Considering that my downstream bandwidth here is 1.5 Mbps, I suspect that the connection was nearly maxed out, with most of the remaining 200 kbps going to overhead, etc.)

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    7. Re:Slow torrent? by burris · · Score: 1

      You have no idea what you are talking about.

    8. Re:Slow torrent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The BitTorrent protocol is a poorly designed one.

  36. Ahhhrgh, this is the third time today... by zilver · · Score: 0

    What is up with all these _old_ news?

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    Dont just do something, stand there! -ESR
  37. FreeCache link by donutz · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you don't want to install BitTorrent, just download from here, courtesy of the Internet Archive.

    1. Re:FreeCache link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, that was useful. Thanks!

  38. Wasn't this by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    on Hackers

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    by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
  39. it's not thermite by Kallahar · · Score: 1

    It's not thermite, it's run of the mill black powder.

    And they're idiots. not only was their premise of "destroy your data" poorly thought out (it's a switch sticking out the side of the laptop, with no safety), but it also probably didn't even damage the hard drive platters.

    If you spend your time watching this, at least realize that they are TV personalities who in no way represent real hackers/geeks/anyonewithaclue.

    1. Re:it's not thermite by vwjeff · · Score: 1

      Once you understand that these guys are not being serious you will understand that it is entertainment. No clear thinking person would carry a self destructing laptop around unless it is a G3 notebook.

    2. Re:it's not thermite by Wakkow · · Score: 1

      C'mon man.. If you'd watch the other videos, you'd see that the Ramzi segments are meant to be funny.

    3. Re:it's not thermite by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      Ramzi's segment is a pure comedy bit... so you clearly didn't get the joke.

      TechTV did get a permit to play with some thermite outside of their studio once. Kevin Rose set a HD on fire for TSS, Morgan Webb set an overpriced Playstation controler that they gave a bad review to on X-Play ablaze, and "Paul the Scientist" melted a toy bunny for a poorly done Unscrewed bit.

    4. Re:it's not thermite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And they're idiots. not only was their premise of "destroy your data" poorly thought out...

      The comedy was "over your head". Start with something easier .. like "Not Another Teen Movie". That's more up your alley.

    5. Re:it's not thermite by thx2001r · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And they're idiots. not only was their premise of "destroy your data" poorly thought out (it's a switch sticking out the side of the laptop, with no safety), but it also probably didn't even damage the hard drive platters.

      Dude,

      It's a joke! If you've seen the rest of the episodes with Ramzi (he's in all of them so far), any segments with him in it are a joke (as in on purpose to get a laugh or two).

      Also, the whole thing kinda mildly mixes (some) tech reality with humorous stereotypes of Hackers (the dudes drink beer throughout the whole show... every show). Most conversations I've had with "real hackers/geeks/anyonewithaclue" would probably make extremely boring tv (Not to say that it isn't possible (never say never) to have a good show with real hackers/geeks/anyonewithaclue, but imho, it is less likely).

      Since this is an unofficial spin-off of TechTV's "Dark Tips" with Kevin Rose (Kevin in TheBroken), they are instinctively trying to be entertaining (sparing those who just want a laugh from a seminar in hacking windows (not to mention, sparing themselves from DMCA implications of getting that specific... everything is kinda vague on purpose)). I suspect that most of their regular viewers are also regular TechTV viewers (and probably not "real" hackers (no matter how bizzarly spelled)).

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      -Joe
      If we're all god's children, what's so special about Jesus? - Jimmy Carr

    6. Re:it's not thermite by herk · · Score: 1

      Quite obviously a joke, and a rather humerous segment to watch for those of us not too hung up on being cynical to enjoy it. I came across these vids a few weeks ago and quite liked them. If you're stupid enough to be watching to improve your haxor skills then of course you're going to be disappointed. I see a couple guys having alot of fun with their project and enjoyed their sense of humor and love for technology.

      --

      I like ice cream.

    7. Re:it's not thermite by Tantrum420 · · Score: 1

      > Most conversations I've had with "real hackers/geeks/anyonewithaclue" would probably make extremely boring tv (Not to say that it isn't possible (never say never) to have a good show with real hackers/geeks/anyonewithaclue, but imho, it is less likely).

      Am I the only one who thinks Dan Kaminsky needs his own show? That would truly 0wn.

      T

    8. Re:it's not thermite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      shit, you're so fucking dense i could crack a bowling ball on your stupid head. go hump a rock, dickweed!

  40. Nice idea! by Universal+Nerd · · Score: 1

    It reminds me of CmdrTaco, Hemos and CowboyNeal in the old (and still loved, by me at least) Geeks in Space.

    Just a bunch of guys with crazy ideas - first download and I'm hooked.

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    1. Re:Nice idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are incorrect. Geeks in Space was a piece of shit.

    2. Re:Nice idea! by crazymennonite · · Score: 1

      Computer Stew had some darn good moments.

  41. homies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like the show except for the fact that Kevin and Dan keep using those stupid(as in idiotic) gangsta/hip-hop/arrest me please mannerisms and slang. Along with the drinking of 40oz bottles of malt liquor. I think it makes them look ridiculous. It diminishes the fact that these are two guys with some pretty amazing technical skills. If I want to see that kind of garbage, I'll watch some of the losers on MTV with the chains and gold teeth.

    -Rob

    1. Re:homies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "two guys with some pretty amazing technical skills." ...who are you kidding?
      They have nothing skillful about them

      People submit information to the screen saver forums and his (thebroken) forums.

      Any information you hear from their mouths is recycled... EVERYTHING

      I enjoy Leo commentary so I watch the show, but 90% of the stuff out of his, Pat's, and Kevin's mouth is right stolen from the intarweb (slashdot, cnet, wired, kur5hin)

    2. Re:homies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like the show except for the fact that Kevin and Dan keep using those stupid(as in idiotic) gangsta/hip-hop/arrest me please mannerisms and slang.

      Yeah ... I have to agree with that. I do like watching TechTV. Granted it's pretty basic, but it's still interesting to watch. And on there they act normal and speak the King's English.

    3. Re:homies by Powercntrl · · Score: 1

      I like the show except for the fact that Kevin and Dan keep using those stupid(as in idiotic) gangsta/hip-hop/arrest me please mannerisms and slang. Along with the drinking of 40oz bottles of malt liquor. I think it makes them look ridiculous. It diminishes the fact that these are two guys with some pretty amazing technical skills. If I want to see that kind of garbage, I'll watch some of the losers on MTV with the chains and gold teeth.

      -Rob


      Comp-u-thugs in the hizzouce, yo... Word up.

      Actually, they're exactly how I'd picture script kiddies to be. Spoiled rotten preppy guys, destroying hardware they have plenty of money to pay for and so bored with their lives they try to act tough online to make up for the fact they're pussies in real life. Office Space is funny, watching The Broken is like getting trolled.

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    4. Re:homies by Jediman1138 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Yeah, it pissed me off at first too..Not because it "diminishes the fact that these are two guys with some pretty amazing technical skills", but because I like rock...

      Let em put whatever they want on the show, because it is their show..If you want somethin changed, you either pay for the damn costs of hosting, production, etc, or quit bitchin about it and STFU. This was a great show and I found it very entertaining. Keep it up, guys.

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  42. Thanks for the warning by nsuccorso · · Score: 0
    Think "The Man Show" meets computers.


    Wow, that lame, huh?

  43. hello again, my hacker beotches by idrifter13 · · Score: 1

    Ramzi is about the only reason to dl these videos. He's friggin hilarious unlike the hosts who make me cringe.

    1. Re:hello again, my hacker beotches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hack the Planet, or is that hack teh planet now

  44. oh god not him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Not that Kevin Rose guy.
    He is annoying as hell.

    Tries to build this whole shady elite persona (I've seen him in person in SF) and well, it speaks for itself.

    Go in the forums sometims. You will laugh your ass of at the discussions.

    They think stealing wireless is "okay" and they promote too much illegal crap on the Screen Savers as well as his site.

    Please, running some automated tools does not equate to being elite.

    How does this make front of Slashdot anyhow? Did Kevin submit it himself? (A Reader...yeah....) or is it his Slashdot people affiliations.

    1. Re:oh god not him by samhart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have to agree. The thing that really bugs me is that he's presenting this stuff like it's really new or unknown. Sure, it's unknown to some script-kiddie wannabe who thinks they are 1337 because they can bring up a DOS prompt in their WinXP, but if you are even the slightest bit experienced as a sysadmin, then nothing in this video should be news to you.

      *Yes, we know, LM password hashes (and authentication) are crap. If anyone is still using these in a modern network they deserve to have their networks owned.

      *Yes, we know, you can change/reset the password on any Win32 machine using the Linux-based password & registry editors. Well, you can also change the password on a Linux box, or any freaking machine using similar techniques. Once someone has physical access to your drive, you're pretty much screwed.

      Anyway, as I mentionned in another comment in this article, the video is for posers and script-kiddies. No serious systems or security person will find anything remotely interesting here. Hell, Kevin Mitnick would probably find the whole thing irritating if he were to see it as a whole.

      I guess it goes to show that the slashdot audience has changed over the years....

    2. Re:oh god not him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "I guess it goes to show that the slashdot audience has changed over the years...."

      Yup. It's no longer made up of only assholes like you.

    3. Re:oh god not him by Glamdrlng · · Score: 1
      Yup. It's no longer made up of only assholes like you.

      Yup. Now it has tools like you thrown into the mix as well.

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      Yes, my only tool is a hammer. And you're starting to look like a nail.
    4. Re:oh god not him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From Slashdot to Slashrot.

    5. Re:oh god not him by Glamdrlng · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I guess it goes to show that the slashdot audience has changed over the years....

      Actually, after looking through the moderated comments, most of them are discussing the way .tor's work or alternative means of hosting video content, or they're echoing a sentiment similar to yours. I'm sure browsing thorugh at 0 or -1 will show the usual smothering of fr1st p0ts as well as the d00d +|-|15 \/1d30 15 t3h 7337!!!!! posts, but it seems to me that the /. moderating system is scaling with the numbers of such posts and keeping them modded down.

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    6. Re:oh god not him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better than Crotchslash.

    7. Re:oh god not him by gagy · · Score: 1

      I hate you.

      If you were a country, I'd burn your flag.

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      -I DDoSed your mom.
    8. Re:oh god not him by James+Lewis · · Score: 1
      "The thing that really bugs me is that he's presenting this stuff like it's really new or unknown."

      What makes you say that? I can't think of a single line they said that even vaguely alluded to them possibly being "new or unknown". It's just a DIY type show. Personally, what really bugs me about people like you, is that you get this holier than thou attitude anytime someone tries to teach people stuff you already know. As if YOU were never at the "wannabe script kiddie" level and were just born with this inate hacker knowledge. People have to start somewhere, and a show like this isn't catering to the very small percent of the population who already knows this stuff. It's catering to the average joe, as is any TV show. Get off your high horse man, cause it's gonna hurt when you fall off.

    9. Re:oh god not him by Jediman1138 · · Score: 1

      Bravo.

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    10. Re:oh god not him by OmegaBlac · · Score: 1

      Go in the forums sometims. You will laugh your ass of at the discussions.

      That is the truth. Those who are not so easily fooled by the lame dork tipper image expose his fake hacker skills on a daily basis. If he takes over as host of the show I will stop watching.

    11. Re:oh god not him by OmegaBlac · · Score: 1
      The thing that really bugs me is that he's presenting this stuff like it's really new or unknown. Sure, it's unknown to some script-kiddie wannabe who thinks they are 1337 because they can bring up a DOS prompt in their WinXP...

      Yes it is well known that kevin's real hacker skills include Google and ripping off articles found in 2600.
    12. Re:oh god not him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is some bratty sounding shit! You're like the guy who is always saying "obviously" after some sucker gives him a bit of information he was previously unaware of, in order to not look like a dumbass. When in truth the sucker would probably think him wiser for admitting he was learning something. Who is "we" by the way? I thought the video was lame too, but who cares? It was obviously not created for any "serious systems or security person." I'm going to kill myself.

  45. Torrents for first two episodes by sik0fewl · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was just taking a look at the torrent tracker info and it looks like their are now torrents up for episode 1 and episode 2.

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    1. Re:Torrents for first two episodes by mrpuffypants · · Score: 1

      Fuck that. I don't need to see Jar-Jar hacking wireless networks, thank you very much...

  46. hmm... by Savatte · · Score: 1

    yeah, because if there are two thing people REALLY want from the man show, it's more computers and less women in Bikinis.

  47. Join thebrOken forums! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://forums.thebroken.org

    1. Re:Join thebrOken forums! by yosemite · · Score: 1

      fucking hilarious

  48. Is this the same Kevin Rose? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://web.archive.org/web/20030216000711/www.kevi nrose.com/docs/kevinrose.txt

    1. Re:Is this the same Kevin Rose? by DA-MAN · · Score: 1

      Obviously! Damn dude you're stupid. You can find stuff on archive.org but you're too lazy to check www.kevinrose.com and see "my personal website is down for now - my latest work can be found on thebroken & techtv."

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    2. Re:Is this the same Kevin Rose? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just thought it was interesting that he's a spammer.

      http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/hudnall/?n of rames;read=1110

      And he likes spyware.

      http://www.informationweek.com/756/ads3.htm

      Those aren't just random links. Note the presence of SimpleSearch.com in his resume.

  49. Now if I could only kidnap Kevin Rose's g/f sarah by aardwolf204 · · Score: 1

    Ahh Kevin Rose is at it again.

    What I would really like to see is a The Broken video on how to construct a giant death ray. There are lots of things that eger hackers could do with giant death rays. It just so happens that my death ray plan involves mounting the sucker to the moon, targeting the tech-tv studios in San Francisco, and with a few well placed mirrors, frying Kevin. HA! Apprentice becomes the master.

    Then I would use my sub-space tidal vortex to rock jump into the studio and steal his beautiful girlfriend Sarah. Then I would lock Sarah up in a castle in a have little bunny foo foo go on a Lan Party (powered by nVidia!) escapade through a land full of castles and easy to kill bosses only to find a stupid little mushroom twit telling you that the princess is in another castle... with me... and hot grits...lots of hot grits

    If your reading Kevin, watch your back you incensitive clod.

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  50. 150 Comments.. by njan · · Score: 1

    ..and not only is the site still up, but my cable modem is hitting the rate I'm capped out downloading the .avi off their site. ...*eerie*... ..this server isn't normal.

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  51. Re:The real deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wouldn't it be cool to see G.W. Bush eat crickets and blow baloons out his nose too!

  52. Holy dorkage... by Majik+Sznak · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wholly entertaining! I could only take it in 5 minute intervals, though...

    It's hard to watch dorky white guys who think they're a) cool and b) black for more than a short stretch at a time. :)

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  53. /. slow on this news by VeggiePossum23 · · Score: 0

    I can't believe /. took this long to get this news up... i've had this torrent for over a month now...
    theBROKEN rules though... Kevin Rose and Double D and Ramzi are all leet sauce!
    Too bad they don't come out with stuff on a weekly basis, though... their videozine is probably one fo the most informational computer security things out there of late.

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    1. Re:/. slow on this news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Surely you jest.

    2. Re:/. slow on this news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> GO VEGAN!! www.peta.com

      >Surely you jest

      No kidding. Vegans are annoying.

  54. Hackers jumping on trampolines by G27+Radio · · Score: 1

    No thanks.

    Seriously though, the console modding part looked pretty cool.

  55. newbies by SethGeekG4 · · Score: 1

    thebroken is for newbies , this does not need to be on slashdot.

    1. Re:newbies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um.... Where have you been? Slashdot is n00b central. The comments reflect this strongly.

  56. It's Hilarious by -tji · · Score: 1

    It's more like Wayne's World with computers.. But, it's funny as hell.

    The video editing is pretty kick-ass too. It's amazing what you can do with a couple cheap camcorders and a decent PC.

    There were a couple segments that were not obvious how they created. They might have access to some more professional tools. One short clip was a fly-through of a file hierarchy - when telling how to strengthen Windows authentication. Another was an animation of the laptop, for the segment on destroying your data.

    But, overall it was damn funny stuff. The intro was great..

    1. Re:It's Hilarious by SilentScream · · Score: 1

      I believe they use a Canon XL-1 for those videos so I don't believe that "cheap camcorder" is exactly accurate.

    2. Re:It's Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One camcorder was an XL-1, the other was a small handheld, around the size of a Canon Optura (as seen when they were putting water on the burning laptop).

      The Canon XL-1S can be found retail for around $2K, which definitely is a cheap camcorder compared to any professional equipment. To create that sort of video, with all the transitions and effects, would have required professional equipment not too long ago.

  57. Kevin Rose's Shady Past by qbert911 · · Score: 1

    What is the deal with Kevin Rose? His TV persona is silly, and the stuff he shows in his screensavers segments are far from 'leet.

    But who is he really? Now he is working as a paid actor. I keep hearing how he "used to work at the Dept. of Energy".

    Anybody know what he did there? How are this dude's GEEK CHOPS as it were?

    1. Re:Kevin Rose's Shady Past by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's an interesting interview Kevin did.

      http://209.215.82.41/lineman/tangentline_episode 1. mp3

  58. Kevin Rose, what an ass. by Clockwurk · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Kevin Rose gives the tech community in general a bad name. He doesn't wash his hair nearly enough and generally appears unkempt despite being on national television. Hint Kevin, grease is never cool.

    Things generally head downhill as soon as he opens his mouth. The advice and iformation is almost never useful (unless engaged in illegal activities), and is always much more entertaining for him than the rest of the audience. Most recently, he discussed on air what .nfo files were (NFO files are text files used by warez groups to include information about the stolen software (cdkeys and the like), and are almost never distributed with legitimate files. I have yet to see Kevin offer a tip that can be used positively (his segments rarely involve fixing something and usually involve breaking or cracking something, usually something expensive)

    Probably my favorite incident involving Kevin was the episode of screensavers where Yoshi had brought several remote control vehicles to the set. Yoshi was illustrating how good the suspension on on vehichle was by dropping it from chest height. This of course was not enough for Kevin (he didn't get to drop it), so he takes the car from Yoshi and is promptly warned that if he drops it, to make sure it lands wheels down. Of course Kevin the Smart tosses the car up into the air, sending it tumbling towards the ground. Needless to say, the chances of the rotating vehicle landing correct-side-down are slim to none and the $400 car lands hard on the delicate radio and engine parts. Kevin

  59. [OT] BitTorrent firewall question by Halo1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    These are my current BitTorrent stats:

    saving: thebroken_3.avi (152.9 MB)
    percent done: 26.2
    time left: 43 min 29 sec
    download to: thebroken_3.avi
    download rate: 56.86 kB/s
    upload rate: 73.17 kB/s
    download total: 40.1 MiB
    upload total: 73.5 MiB

    I have a public IP-address (I'm not behind a NAT gateway), but I'm behind a firewall that blocks any and all incoming connections (except to port 8080, where Apache is listening). I have full access to the outside however. Given this situation,

    a) How are other clients able to send upload requests at all? Do other clients send upload requests in the same TCP/IP connection where I'm downloading from them? When I look at the output of netstat, nobody is indeed connected to port 6881-6889 on my machine, but some connections have quite large Send-Q values.
    b) How come I'm getting such a low download rate while I'm uploading so much? Aren't those clients detecting that I'm uploading to them or so? (I have plenty of bandwidth left)

    I'm using BitTorrent 3.4.1a.

    FWIW: before this firewall was installed, I could easily get 100kb/sec upload, 300kb/sec downloads (and more). The firewall does not rate limit (normal downloads actually go a lot faster than before, because our outside connection was upgraded at the same time).

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    1. Re:[OT] BitTorrent firewall question by burris · · Score: 1

      A) yes, once connected data flows in either direction
      B) 57/73 really isn't that bad

      Open your port. The more peers you can connect to the better. Everyone else is connecting to the same peers as you. Since you'll only get a download if you're one of the top X uploaders for a peer, you won't get much connecting to the same peers as everyone else. If your port was open then all the firewalled peers will connect to you and you'll get much more speed.

      burris

    2. Re:[OT] BitTorrent firewall question by Halo1 · · Score: 1
      Open your port
      I'd first have to punch a hole in our sysadmin before I could punch a hole in the firewall ;) Thanks for the explanation!
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  60. put it on public access tv by akb · · Score: 1

    This show is really good. People should download it and submit it to their public access cable TV stations. Most cable systems have a channel that anyone living in the area can submit shows to, a lot of it is boring religous programming, this would be much more interesting for most people to watch.

    It varies from municipality to municipality exactly what needs to be done to get it on the channel. Some you can just call up and say "Hey download this file", others you might have to pay a membership fee and submit it on tape.

    1. Re:put it on public access tv by sahonen · · Score: 1

      It's a bit more interesting than most public access, but dear god, I've seen public access with much better production standards. The Mitnick segment, which takes up most of the entire episode, is poorly lit and shot on a single handheld camera. Go out to your local public access facility, you can get yourself a three camera shoot with portable lighting and tripods, which are a MUST if you're shooting an interview. I loved the bit where they said "pay attention, this is tricky to get back together," then played it all in fast forward.

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  61. And is highly illegal... by Phil+John · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...since it contains cracked copies of paid for software...thanks, but no thanks. The free version of divx (read the basic version, not the free adware supported pro version) is fine for anyone who just wants to view videos, its only when it comes to actually encoding them that the paid for codec comes into its own (being faster).

    Link to FREE basic codec, no spyware in this one.

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    1. Re:And is highly illegal... by cptgrudge · · Score: 1

      Really? How do you know? Do you have proof? Show me.

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    2. Re:And is highly illegal... by toasted_calamari · · Score: 1

      by the same measure, you have no proof that the K-Lite pack has no spyware, malware, etc.

      do you?

    3. Re:And is highly illegal... by cptgrudge · · Score: 1

      It's only anecdotal, but I did run an ad-aware scan after it was installed to see. I didn't see any strange registry keys created during installation using Regmon. Time will tell, I suppose, but I'm satisfied enough.

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  62. Hacking? by akikage · · Score: 1

    Someone explain how building a cement filled tube qualifies as "hacking".

  63. K-K3viN = h4x0r by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These guys are running Openssh 3.4p1 at thebroken.org.

    Isn't that kind of ... old?

    LEET!!1

  64. the thing that sucks however by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    is that it's running under java, and always brings my computer to it's knees...
    even at minimal up/down kb settings, all my web browsing, email checking is extremely reduced in speed, and I CANNOT play diablo with it runnning at all.

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    1. Re:the thing that sucks however by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Now I have to try Az, to figure out what's going wrong for you. I don't see how a BitTorrent client can suck up all your cycles that way, even with a Java implementation. Have you tried fiddling with priority settings? Reducing the number of streams? I'm talking through my hat, never having actually used the product, but you know what I mean.

    2. Re:the thing that sucks however by fm6 · · Score: 1

      I've just installed Az. Not a great piece of software, but it doesn't seem to impact my system performance at all. Are you sure you don't have other performance issues? Java programs have a reputation for being slow, mostly a bad rap. Part of it was a lot of cruddy VMs back when Java appeared. Part of it is just misunderstanding about how Java wokrs.

    3. Re:the thing that sucks however by way2trivial · · Score: 1

      it does not hit my processor that hard, while running at idle, I have 2% usage, this (after startup) floats between 5 & 8
      but even at very low to 1 kb/sec for a singled d/l, it seriously hampers all my internet enabled apps. from 2.0.6.0 to current.
      they slow down, pages take forever to load, and pingtimes shoot way up... new windows take a while to appear, and my email send/recieve even times out.

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    4. Re:the thing that sucks however by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Interesting problem. But it has nothing to do with the fact the Az is written in Java.

  65. sorry- its still my client of choice by way2trivial · · Score: 1
    I can only utilize however, when I'm not actively on my PC.

    it's still my fav bittorrent client. best legibility and maintaining of multiple torrents at the same time..

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  66. It's all been done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Think "The Man Show" meets computers.


    It's more like: Beavis and Butthead logon to Wayne's World IRC server.
  67. Why not theBorken videos? by Eberlin · · Score: 1

    C'mon, man, get with it!!! You can have Ze Sweedish Chef reading from the Anarchist Cookbook or something like that. Have Gonzo try out Prof. Bunsen's latest rocket-propelled computer case mod. And there can be an entire segment on the martian space probe a la Pigs In Space. And don't even talk about how Kermit ain't 1337 'coz you have to be 1337 when they name a protocol after you.

  68. Re: i don't need 3000 Degree Molten Iron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I only need "much Sulfuric Acid" to eat all the Hard Disk including the hidden data.

    I did buy a cheap 40 GB HD and i did acid it after of encrypting my data to the tapes, XD.

    open4free: "the paranoic"

  69. so gay! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so gay. ramis loves the cock! he looks insashable.

  70. idiots by therealseadawg · · Score: 1

    a lot of you are idiots, here's why:

    1. most of the dumb things discussed on techtv are questions from actual dumb viewers. if you've watched any of the shows and heard any of the calls they take, you would notice that they are mostly newbies or retards. its MEANT to be newbie.

    2. re: gangsta mannerisms. ...its a joke.

    3. never have i seen such a large group of "intellegent" people take shit so literally. for example, with the laptop burning thing...do you actually think they were proposing that as a practical solution? smarten up!

    4. all this talk about kevin rose, yet i don't think anyone mentioned how big a tool kevin mitnik is. i suppose you thought the idea of blackhats sending him their exploits so he can "write a book" and make money on their backs was great.

    Again, people sound surprised when they find that techtv and thebroken are newb oriented. I have an idea...lets make a show about networking with cisco and os programming. can you say "failure"?

  71. kevin mitnick? by dangerz · · Score: 1

    come on, that's so 1997

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  72. Damn impressive... by B5_geek · · Score: 1

    I must admit guys I am impressed and I want to say thanks.

    No, I am not talking about the video, I am talking about *nix.

    I have worked with linux before but CLI only (firewalls mostly + apache). I just installed mandrake v9.2 (I am searching for a disto that I like, and no I can't roll-my-own) and after getting it setup in a way that I could work with I saw this torrent link on /.

    Challenge! I d'loaded and installed the BT.rpm (I don't think it worked) so I went and grabbed the .py files from the cvs.

    5 minutes later I was d'loading the movie.
    I just tried playing it and I assumed that it wouldn't work (all the warnings about divix, and I know that I haven't tried installing any codecs) and to my surprise it started up right away. AND it runs smoother then it would in XP.

    Congratualtions and way-to-go. Thanks to all who contribute.

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  73. Hmm.... by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 1

    I have seen the graphs of results going beyond 2600 and it looked prettly bad.

    Coincidence? I think not.

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  74. Ugh by Fiz+Ocelot · · Score: 1
    The presentation of this show just makes me cringe (this is the first time I've seen it, don't have tech tv). Example:

    Ramzi:"Hello again my hacker beotches, Ramzi in hizz house. As leet hackers...."

    Ok I know it's supposed to be funny, but it just makes me cringe.

  75. It's easier to tear something down than to build by severed · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm the guy that created HaXXXor, and it's very interesting because while reading through this thread, I hear a lot of the same things said about these guys' video that was said about mine. It make me wonder if someone has hacked a version of beagle to spam discussion on hacker videos... :-)

    But seriously, here's my opinion. I'd like to think it counts for something being a producer and all...

    There seems to be two types of people that comment on projects like The Broken, and HaXXXor, and 2600, et al.

    First there's the people who say, wow that's cool.

    To them, I say: Thank You.

    Then there's the people who act as those the presence of any material, whether it's a video, or a print magazine or whatever is a direct threat to their way of life. Then the screaming begins.

    It's not the type of thing a REAL SYSADMIN should care about, it's only worth reading if you're 15 (obviously doesn't apply to HaXXXor), it's stupid, why bother, and on and on and on.

    I don't really see why the negative points are really valid, besides from the obvious fact that freedom of speech means freedom of all speach. Once you get past the freedom of speech part though, it really doesn't pan out.

    First, it's a good thing that people are making videos and books and magazines talking about this sort of thing. While it may be old hat to some people, there's a lot of other people out there that haven't even heard of this stuff. So the next time that you want to lament the masses for their ignorance, remember the heaps of criticism that anyone who produces any material that might help a few more people who aren't as L33t as you to bridge the gap.

    Second, for the people out there who throw out the massively insightful, this is stupid and pointless, why bother, type of remarks. Just remember, a lot of really cool things have been created because someone spent a lot of time working endlessly on something that was considered pointless, and then an occassion would come up with something that proved to be useful.

    Here's the deal, just remember that there are people actually creating these things. There's a person on the other side of the video, or book, or magazine, or whatever, that's put a lot of time and work in to it. If you think you can do better, then pick up a camera and give it a shot. But if you've never even tried doing something like that before, then why don't you try to appreciate the work that was put in to it, and what was done right, before you rush to tear it apart.

    In this community, it is common that a program that still needs a whole lot of work gets gushed over, but the moment someone makes a video it's an instant target? You really should be supporting these efforts (or at least constructively criticizing them). It's hard enough to be a small independent producer. However, it's small independent producers that are the competition to Hollywood and the big television networks. Do you prefer them to be the only people who talk about hackers?

    Anyways, that's my take on it...

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  76. Old news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't they release this a couple of months ago?

  77. it's spelled 1337 by genner · · Score: 1

    Wow I guess I am more 1337 than your are. W00t!

    1. Re:it's spelled 1337 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're talking about hacking, not script kiddies.

  78. The broken free tshirts by bangular · · Score: 2, Funny

    I remember awhile back the prices for their tshirts were kept in a hidden form field and to get discounted tshirts all you had to do was save the html locally and change the hidden fields. I emailed them and apparently they didn't think it was a problem. Their server allowed zone transfers. Ran gobs of outdated exploitable daemons. Their bulletin board software contained quite a few sql injection exploits.

    Not getting into a hacker war, these guys really don't know what they are doing. Passing prices through hidden values? I think they use someone else's ecommerce software now, but before they were using cgi they wrote. That's seriously pathetic. They don't know very basic things related to security. They are the worst security site I've ever seen on the internet. Worse than happy hacker.

    War driving? This site should just slap 1337 speak all over their site right now and get it over with, because that's about the level site they are. Bugtraq, Securiteam, Packetstorm, Phrack, and the likes are quality security organizations. I can't say I'd put the broken in nearly the same league as them. I doubt they could smash anything for fun an profit.

    1. Re:The broken free tshirts by OmegaBlac · · Score: 1
      This site should just slap 1337 speak all over their site right now and get it over with, because that's about the level site they are.
      Very true. I mean kevin is the same person that thinks p2p, IRC, and ftp is the "darker side" of the net!
      He treats GNU/Linux like it is some sort of uber-hacker tool. Its hilarious, annoying, and sad at the same time.
  79. Re:Now if I could only kidnap Kevin Rose's g/f sar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your death ray plans are already foiled since I've been holding the moon for ransom since the 80s. You're just a wanna-be evil genius.

  80. zdtv by poppen_fresh · · Score: 1

    Don't these guys work for zdtv? I've def. seen them on the screen saves before.

  81. thebrOken's public service announcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  82. Re:It's easier to tear something down than to buil by bangular · · Score: 1

    I don't see so much hacker/cracker debate as I do "this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about" debate. He basically seems like a script kiddie. Discussing techniques from 10 years ago and offering trite and useless information. War driving? Ummm...sure, lot's of 16 year olds do that. His next article, war dialing and brute forcing. Serious security researchers are much more skilled than him. I don't put him in the same league as gobbles or immunitysec. I put him in the same league as the 15 year old next door whom tries to trick people to download sub seven. I question whether he can even program, let alone write a buffer overflow exploit. He comes straight out of "hacker" stereotypes from the movies. The average security researcher has more skill in their pinky than he could even fathom.

  83. Re:It's easier to tear something down than to buil by severed · · Score: 1
    That may or may not be true. However it's important to remember that he's not spending three months researching a specific vulnerability and then writing out his notes in a text file. He's producing a series of video episodes that discuss things.

    To give you an idea of what it is to be a small video producer, a couple of weeks ago I got together 6 extras, a photographer, a cameraman, and went on location to film two short scenes. It took all day to set this up, get everyone to where they needed to be, get everyone to know what they were supposed to do, and to do it. Then to do a small cast party to make it worth their time to come out. It then took half a day to edit, and another half day to screen and fine tune. Writing the script it's self took about another day.

    So let me ask you how much end footage I generated from three days worth of work. About 80 seconds.

    Why this much effort? One of the biggest constructive criticisms that I received from HaXXXor Volume 1: No Longer Floppy, was that they liked the concept, but would like to see more than hot chicks just reading text off my Powerbook. That's why I put in the work.

    I also received a lot of people saying something like, stupid skanky ho's reading off a laptop, and those I ignore. There's a big difference between the one and the other.

    The point of what I'm saying is that there's a big difference between making a video, or any other "product," and posting a quick blurb to bugtraq.

    I would imagine that the average video producer has more video production skill in their pinky than the average hacker could even fathom. It's called distribution of labor, that's the reason why 90% of (western) society isn't out in the fields harvesting vegetables to keep society fed.

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  84. Tracker down? by Zutroi_Zatatakowsky · · Score: 1

    Is it me or the tracker is down? My download stopped at 99.8%, there's only one piece missing! I'm sure they did it on purpose!

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  85. No it doesn't by boarder · · Score: 1

    The purpose of Bittorrent is to take the load off the server and its bandwidth. If I only get 50% of the file from peers and have to get the other from the server, then I have just saved the server bandwidth. Think about it... they can pump out files twice as large as they normally could. And that is with only 50% peering; I see a few completed ones on the tracker. Also, I always thought that it downloaded random chunks (i.e. not in a continuous, linear chunk download), but someone replied to you saying it didn't. I'm fairly sure it does, though. If it does, then you could still get the second half from incomplete seeds.

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  86. lameness is subjective by senatorpjt · · Score: 1

    http://www.bbsdocumentary.com

    Maybe this will be more up your alley. Rather than watching wannabe nerds trying to be cool, you can just watch real nerds being real nerds.

  87. IRC Chat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The offical IRC chat is irc.abducted.us #thebroken if you want to talk about anything on the show. usually contains 20-50 people...

    1. Re:IRC Chat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't on irc.gloop.net?

  88. Re: i don't need 3000 Degree Molten Iron by smeg168 · · Score: 1

    thermite is even easier its a fairly even mix of powdered iron oxide(rust) and aluminum. add a good ignition source( I have only used magnesium ribbon but they seem to be succesfull with a electric ignitor) and you have really quick evidence erasure, sulfuric acid would take a little bit to eat its way through the caseing.

  89. Re: i don't need 3000 Degree Molten Iron by smeg168 · · Score: 1

    I should add that their method is of poor design. I dont know about you but I would not like to be working on a laptop with that setup on it, on bad move and you lose a couple legs and your two best friends. I think maybe some form of saftey lock, or at least a timer would be needed, also a sealed enclosure for the thermite as it would shortout the laptop if you just poor it in the drivebay.

  90. Not everybody can use BitTorrent. by TheBoostedBrain · · Score: 1

    I'm through a NAT, you insensitive clod

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  91. Re:Found it by Leeji · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    You just have to look hard enough. Don't look during dinner, though.

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  92. In other news... by lord_nightrose · · Score: 0

    The internet went down for the count today, as a gigantic amount of bandwidth was allocated to the BitTorrenting of a 156MB video linked to on Slashdot. Film at 11.

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  93. Re:It's easier to tear something down than to buil by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Eh - I'll take a swing at this one.

    First off, I'd like to thank you for your work and extend that thanks to thebroken. It's been entertaining. There would probably be a lot less vitriol about if people maintained the perspective of this being entertainment first. However, this leads in to my intial point...

    People lose their sense of entertainment when they are fed a constant stream of gross distortions of what they are familiar with. Keep in mind that you are following in the rather gigantic footsteps of Hollywood. And Hollywood has had a rather dismal track record when it comes to hackers (in any sense of the word).

    Quite a few years ago, I had a hobby-job at my local ISP covering the evening shift. We ended up with a couple young entry-level helpdesk techs to train. During one of the evening's training the movie Hackers was mentioned. Us seasoned techies classified the movie as a comedy (albiet unintentional). One of our young charges listed it as inspirational.

    Our young techie-in-training ended up following a continued pattern. She was really "in" to the "hacker scene". She liked the whole counter-culture / underground idea. She had her hair done in braids and wore counter-culture clothes. She had a certain facination with the concept of being feared by those outside her peer group. In short, she was all set to don the mantle of hacker as imaged by the movie Hackers.

    Except for when it came to technical ability.

    Our hacker-to-be had no real ability to pick up technical issues. Heck. She didn't even show any interest in actually learning more than the basics needed to do her job. She seemed to lack any resemblance of interest that would otherwise put her on a hacker's path.

    But she could dress the part. Or at least, the part as defined in Hackers.

    And this is likely the source of people's agrivation. Sure - this stuff is entertaining. But it is more often than not completely mistreated by Hollywood. And then to rub salt in to wound, one runs in to waves of wanna-bes that faithfully emulate that completely distorted image.

    I understand how that could grate on one's nerves. Heck. I've seen it first hand. But I don't get upset over this kind of stuff. Even now that I find Hackers a little less funny all things considered.

  94. Re:It's easier to tear something down than to buil by severed · · Score: 1

    Now that's something well written and well thought out. I'm going to keep this in mind.

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  95. best simply to block all ports by RMH101 · · Score: 1

    ..give that linksys a tap with a hammer. you'll be totally safe then.

    1. Re:best simply to block all ports by fm6 · · Score: 1

      You could do the same with the obvious unnecessary protrusion on your own body. The world would be much safer then.

  96. mirror by peroskar · · Score: 1

    mirror up at http://paducktions.net/downloads/misc/thebroken_3. avi