Not necessarily - travelling through vacuum, and travelling through densely packed matter in a gravitational field might possibly make all the difference.
If real, qualified physicists are pondering this issue, it is a bit early for us mere mortals be openly dismissive.
How about you stick to the story at hand, it's not tax 'dollars' it's Pounds Sterling
Sometimes I forget how pedantic people can get on this site. My bad.
, and BT had long since paid back the British taxpayer for the outlay prior to it being privatised
You may call it paying back - I simply call it return on investment.
Labelling an ac an astroturfer when you clearly have a political axe to grind is just hilarious at best.
Always glad to supply a measure of hilarity in this cold, dark universe, however, ac was the one who used my post about what happened to BT in the eighties as an opportunity to denigrate some random american politician out of the blue. I think his axe is bigger.
P.S. I think the way BT abuse their monopoly is outrageous, but the issue is NOT how that monopoly came about, it's the actions of those that are the controlling minds of BT that are at issue.
Man, why is the most interesting point of your comment in a postscript? This is where we disagree. The point I was trying to make is that the people who are currently the controlling minds at BT were placed in that position purely as a result of how that monopoly came about. It hasn't been very long since BT was privatised, so to my mind, we can't separate the two issues.
Hmm, AC political astroturfers are out - there must be a US presidential election coming soon.
Sorry dude - you are wasting your time. I'm not a US citizen, in fact it is fair to say that I live as far away from New York as is possible while still remaining on the surface of the Earth. So I don't really care about your politics, or rather, which particular politician you are being paid to bag.
Also - this story is about a UK company. So please try to stay relevant to the topic at hand.
BT was initially a government run organisation for many years before it was privatized. So they are basically a government created monopoly which was then sold off -mostly to cronies of the government of the era.
This isn't either the free market or the competitive market at work - it is a monopoly unfairly created by the government (by which I mean the public's tax dollars) screwing everyone else over.
I don't want to Godwin this thread - however, it seems that the NYPD has seized the 5000+ book donated library, and thrown all those books in a dumpster.
You are more correct than you know - so far my previous comment has been modded insightful and interesting.
If it gets an informative mod I am going to feel very sad.
I didn't say I agreed completely - I just explained what the school of thought was.
However - in your response you seemed to have missed my main point against the Patriot Act - which was that even considering everything you raise - personal privacy should still trump national government's privacy.
The government wants to keep military secrets? I agree - with the proviso that there should be a statute of limitations on those - at which point the public gets to know.
However - my desire to not have the government know which girl I happen to be chatting to at any one time IS MORE IMPORTANT in a free society than any military secret. The government should never be privy to such information, the government should not have an option to peruse my communications in 10 years time, the government should just stay out of individual's private communications.
It is because I consider INDIVIDUAL privacy so important that I find things like the Patriot Act so abhorrent in a so-called democratic society.
No it isn't the same school of thought. The school of thought of (most) wikileaks supporters goes: democratic governments don't have a right to privacy - they are of the people and for the people.
Individuals in contrast, do have a right to privacy.
I'm not sure which oz university you work at, but the University of Western Australia has an Academic Conduct Essentials course which is compulsory for all students, covers the various types of things that are considered misconduct (cheating, plagiarism, etc), and covers the punishments which will be received for misconduct (for conduct considered less serious, it is a sliding scale depending upon which year of uni the student is in, prior history, etc). I know some other Australian universities also have this.
So even if they come from a different culture, at UWA at least, they have done a course and sat a test forcing them to think about these issues, which means that ignorance really is no excuse.
It was Apple that went to the courts and tried to sue android oems. Now they have to reap what they've sown.
So please don't call google evil just because it is beating Apple at Apple's own game. (there are plenty of other more valid reasons to call google evil...)
I'll just add a quick quote in case you don't want to click one of those links:
Britain's armed forces are stepping up their contingency planning for potential military action against Iran amid mounting concern about Tehran's nuclear enrichment programme, the Guardian has learned.
The Ministry of Defence believes the US may decide to fast-forward plans for targeted missile strikes at some key Iranian facilities. British officials say that if Washington presses ahead it will seek, and receive, UK military help for any mission, despite some deep reservations within the coalition government.
In anticipation of a potential attack, British military planners are examining where best to deploy Royal Navy ships and submarines equipped with Tomahawk cruise missiles over the coming months as part of what would be an air and sea campaign.
They also believe the US would ask permission to launch attacks from Diego Garcia, the British Indian ocean territory, which the Americans have used previously for conflicts in the Middle East.
Hmm - seems Iran is going to be the new enemy of choice for the USA. Keep drumming up that anti-iran sentiment so that the US has enough momentum in the populace to justify bombing them next year.
He won't go to trial in Sweden. The moment he lands in Sweden the rape charges will be dropped and the Swedish government will be handed an extradition request to send him to the US for trail. And that was why he was fighting the charges.
Personally, I hope he does wind up in a fair trial in Sweden, I just don't think that was ever the goal.
You are right - something is strange about this whole situation.
Currently, despite what is being reported there are NO rape charges. The claim on the warrant is that he is wanted for questioning, not arrest. This is because the Swedish police do not have enough evidence for an arrest based on the rape allegations.
So he goes to Sweden, takes a good lawyer, the police ask their questions, and as far as I can tell, as long as the lawyer is competent, there are 3 possibilities. Julian
1) exercises his right to remain silent - in which case the police have no new information, and have to let him go
2) answers their questions in such a way that he doesn't incriminate himself - in which case the police have no new information, and have to let him go, or
3) answers their questions in such a way that he doesn't incriminate himself, however the police decide he is lying, and arrest him.
So if the police were going to ignore any evidence he gives and arrest him, why didn't they submit an actual arrest warrant, rather than this very strange request for questioning?
If the police are going to believe what he says, why bring him in for questioning at all?
I don't like venturing into tin-foil hat territory where the only explanation is that prominent public figures can just be disappeared at will, but the current actions of the Swedish prosecutors are just weird when regular logic is applied.
I think they're talking about flash memory, which does involve confining excess electrons in an isolated piece of material (the "floating gate") to produce zeros.
Yes - but if the flash memory is formatted - it would be all zeros already.
So if the book is downloaded - all the extra ones created should release the excess electrons, and actually make the book lighter!!!
However - if the memory was quick formatted - unwritten memory would be randomly 1 or 0, and adding an ebook would typically keep the same average of 1s and 0s - meaning the reader would on average stay the same weight.
Alan Joyce will be remembered as the man who killed QANTAS.
Actually - that's his game plan. He has made no secret of the fact he wants to off-shore everything.
He is purposely trashing the brand so that he can transfer all the planes and other assets to setup a new airline based in asia.
He is not bluffing, IMHO qantas has made it's final flight. The only way he will restart services is if he bullies the current government into making his company exempt from Australia's industrial relations laws. (He might do that by making the usual "too big to fail, massive source of employment and income" argument that politicians these days can't get enough of). Otherwise, this is it for qantas - because Alan Joyce wants it that way.
I dunno - sounds to me like the language of a european who isn't too good at speaking english.
I used to know an italian guy whose spoken english was almost entirely made up of lyric fragments from pop songs. That made for some very weird sentences.
Not FUD about flac, half my music is flac and my NanoTouch (a present) won't play them - unless you know of a way of getting flac to work?
You can't get flac working on a nano 6g yet - but keep an eye on rockbox (http://www.rockbox.org/). Hopefully they'll eventually get round to porting to it.
The main reason: Security.
Do you really want your phone sending premium SMSes because it had security flaws that allowed it to be pwned by a year old security exploit?
Maybe Little Johnny shouldn't borrow $100,000 if he doesn't have a reasonable plan for a career after graduation.
Maybe the banks shouldn't loan little Johnny $100,000 if he doesn't have a reasonable plan for paying it back.
Oh, what's that? The federal government guarantees all student loans? And the banks take advantage of that by loaning money to anyone and everyone who can claim to be studying, without performing any reasonable due diligence or oversight, because the banks know that one way or another, even if they bankrupt the student, they'll still get their money back?
Come on, who do you think is at fault here - the young teenager taking the easy money being offered? Or the multinational corporation with packages designed to temp said teenager, and profit massively out of the situation?
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Not necessarily - travelling through vacuum, and travelling through densely packed matter in a gravitational field might possibly make all the difference.
If real, qualified physicists are pondering this issue, it is a bit early for us mere mortals be openly dismissive.
How about you stick to the story at hand, it's not tax 'dollars' it's Pounds Sterling
Sometimes I forget how pedantic people can get on this site. My bad.
, and BT had long since paid back the British taxpayer for the outlay prior to it being privatised
You may call it paying back - I simply call it return on investment.
Labelling an ac an astroturfer when you clearly have a political axe to grind is just hilarious at best.
Always glad to supply a measure of hilarity in this cold, dark universe, however, ac was the one who used my post about what happened to BT in the eighties as an opportunity to denigrate some random american politician out of the blue. I think his axe is bigger.
P.S. I think the way BT abuse their monopoly is outrageous, but the issue is NOT how that monopoly came about, it's the actions of those that are the controlling minds of BT that are at issue.
Man, why is the most interesting point of your comment in a postscript? This is where we disagree. The point I was trying to make is that the people who are currently the controlling minds at BT were placed in that position purely as a result of how that monopoly came about. It hasn't been very long since BT was privatised, so to my mind, we can't separate the two issues.
You win a cookie :-)
Hmm, AC political astroturfers are out - there must be a US presidential election coming soon.
Sorry dude - you are wasting your time. I'm not a US citizen, in fact it is fair to say that I live as far away from New York as is possible while still remaining on the surface of the Earth. So I don't really care about your politics, or rather, which particular politician you are being paid to bag.
Also - this story is about a UK company. So please try to stay relevant to the topic at hand.
BT was initially a government run organisation for many years before it was privatized. So they are basically a government created monopoly which was then sold off -mostly to cronies of the government of the era.
This isn't either the free market or the competitive market at work - it is a monopoly unfairly created by the government (by which I mean the public's tax dollars) screwing everyone else over.
Seems a bit excessive and somewhat dubious.
I don't want to Godwin this thread - however, it seems that the NYPD has seized the 5000+ book donated library, and thrown all those books in a dumpster.
Excessive is an understatement
You are more correct than you know - so far my previous comment has been modded insightful and interesting.
If it gets an informative mod I am going to feel very sad.
I'm not sure sex would be that enjoyable without any sensation of friction from the parts that are being rubbed together...
I didn't say I agreed completely - I just explained what the school of thought was.
However - in your response you seemed to have missed my main point against the Patriot Act - which was that even considering everything you raise - personal privacy should still trump national government's privacy.
The government wants to keep military secrets? I agree - with the proviso that there should be a statute of limitations on those - at which point the public gets to know.
However - my desire to not have the government know which girl I happen to be chatting to at any one time IS MORE IMPORTANT in a free society than any military secret. The government should never be privy to such information, the government should not have an option to peruse my communications in 10 years time, the government should just stay out of individual's private communications.
It is because I consider INDIVIDUAL privacy so important that I find things like the Patriot Act so abhorrent in a so-called democratic society.
No it isn't the same school of thought. The school of thought of (most) wikileaks supporters goes: democratic governments don't have a right to privacy - they are of the people and for the people.
Individuals in contrast, do have a right to privacy.
Are sharply honed skills in cheating and lying not a prerequisite for politicians in your country?
Where do you live? I'd like to emigrate.
I'm not sure which oz university you work at, but the University of Western Australia has an Academic Conduct Essentials course which is compulsory for all students, covers the various types of things that are considered misconduct (cheating, plagiarism, etc), and covers the punishments which will be received for misconduct (for conduct considered less serious, it is a sliding scale depending upon which year of uni the student is in, prior history, etc).
I know some other Australian universities also have this.
So even if they come from a different culture, at UWA at least, they have done a course and sat a test forcing them to think about these issues, which means that ignorance really is no excuse.
Dude, turnabout is fair play.
Google didn't want this, motorola didn't want this, samsung certainly didn't want this.
It was Apple that went to the courts and tried to sue android oems. Now they have to reap what they've sown.
So please don't call google evil just because it is beating Apple at Apple's own game. (there are plenty of other more valid reasons to call google evil...)
Britain's armed forces are stepping up their contingency planning for potential military action against Iran amid mounting concern about Tehran's nuclear enrichment programme, the Guardian has learned.
The Ministry of Defence believes the US may decide to fast-forward plans for targeted missile strikes at some key Iranian facilities. British officials say that if Washington presses ahead it will seek, and receive, UK military help for any mission, despite some deep reservations within the coalition government.
In anticipation of a potential attack, British military planners are examining where best to deploy Royal Navy ships and submarines equipped with Tomahawk cruise missiles over the coming months as part of what would be an air and sea campaign.
They also believe the US would ask permission to launch attacks from Diego Garcia, the British Indian ocean territory, which the Americans have used previously for conflicts in the Middle East.
Your post is a bit incoherent - are you trying to accuse me of being paranoid?
Here's some reading for you.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/02/uk-military-iran-attack-nuclear
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/03/iran-nuclear-ambitions-secret-war
Come back when you have a clearer picture of your country's current political strategy.
Hmm - seems Iran is going to be the new enemy of choice for the USA.
Keep drumming up that anti-iran sentiment so that the US has enough momentum in the populace to justify bombing them next year.
He's only one term in. Looks like you guys will be bombing Iran soon: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/02/us-heading-war-iran-obama
He won't go to trial in Sweden. The moment he lands in Sweden the rape charges will be dropped and the Swedish government will be handed an extradition request to send him to the US for trail. And that was why he was fighting the charges. Personally, I hope he does wind up in a fair trial in Sweden, I just don't think that was ever the goal.
You are right - something is strange about this whole situation.
Currently, despite what is being reported there are NO rape charges. The claim on the warrant is that he is wanted for questioning, not arrest. This is because the Swedish police do not have enough evidence for an arrest based on the rape allegations.
So he goes to Sweden, takes a good lawyer, the police ask their questions, and as far as I can tell, as long as the lawyer is competent, there are 3 possibilities. Julian
1) exercises his right to remain silent - in which case the police have no new information, and have to let him go
2) answers their questions in such a way that he doesn't incriminate himself - in which case the police have no new information, and have to let him go, or
3) answers their questions in such a way that he doesn't incriminate himself, however the police decide he is lying, and arrest him.
So if the police were going to ignore any evidence he gives and arrest him, why didn't they submit an actual arrest warrant, rather than this very strange request for questioning?
If the police are going to believe what he says, why bring him in for questioning at all?
I don't like venturing into tin-foil hat territory where the only explanation is that prominent public figures can just be disappeared at will, but the current actions of the Swedish prosecutors are just weird when regular logic is applied.
I think they're talking about flash memory, which does involve confining excess electrons in an isolated piece of material (the "floating gate") to produce zeros.
Yes - but if the flash memory is formatted - it would be all zeros already.
So if the book is downloaded - all the extra ones created should release the excess electrons, and actually make the book lighter!!!
However - if the memory was quick formatted - unwritten memory would be randomly 1 or 0, and adding an ebook would typically keep the same average of 1s and 0s - meaning the reader would on average stay the same weight.
Alan Joyce will be remembered as the man who killed QANTAS.
Actually - that's his game plan. He has made no secret of the fact he wants to off-shore everything.
He is purposely trashing the brand so that he can transfer all the planes and other assets to setup a new airline based in asia.
He is not bluffing, IMHO qantas has made it's final flight. The only way he will restart services is if he bullies the current government into making his company exempt from Australia's industrial relations laws. (He might do that by making the usual "too big to fail, massive source of employment and income" argument that politicians these days can't get enough of). Otherwise, this is it for qantas - because Alan Joyce wants it that way.
I dunno - sounds to me like the language of a european who isn't too good at speaking english.
I used to know an italian guy whose spoken english was almost entirely made up of lyric fragments from pop songs. That made for some very weird sentences.
Not FUD about flac, half my music is flac and my NanoTouch (a present) won't play them - unless you know of a way of getting flac to work?
You can't get flac working on a nano 6g yet - but keep an eye on rockbox (http://www.rockbox.org/). Hopefully they'll eventually get round to porting to it.
The main reason: Security.
Do you really want your phone sending premium SMSes because it had security flaws that allowed it to be pwned by a year old security exploit?
Maybe Little Johnny shouldn't borrow $100,000 if he doesn't have a reasonable plan for a career after graduation.
Maybe the banks shouldn't loan little Johnny $100,000 if he doesn't have a reasonable plan for paying it back.
Oh, what's that? The federal government guarantees all student loans? And the banks take advantage of that by loaning money to anyone and everyone who can claim to be studying, without performing any reasonable due diligence or oversight, because the banks know that one way or another, even if they bankrupt the student, they'll still get their money back?
Come on, who do you think is at fault here - the young teenager taking the easy money being offered? Or the multinational corporation with packages designed to temp said teenager, and profit massively out of the situation?
May have missed ? I'm fairly certain it definitely missed.
Nope - it didn't miss. I was the only survivor as I happened to be exploring some very deep natural caverns at the time.
You are all just figments of my imagination.