Tapes suck and are so slow. Get 30 Hard drives and mirror what you've got before you go to tape. It's such a worthless technology now--I loathe when my superiors tell me I have to make tape backups of stuff. Get CD-RW or DVD+RW, whatever.
All: Do NOT support tape technology anymore. Let's put it to rest.
Like all magic potions and wonder drugs, fraud doesn't always work. Take Enron and especially the accounting firm that influenced some of their decisions. They're lying flat on their backs because of fraudulent behavior. Now if Enron isn't big enough in your definition, I don't know what is.
Maybe to you as a home user and/or small business owner, but scaling up to mid-size or large-size corporations licensing for server systems becomes moot. That's what this article is talking about, server systems... web server to be more specific. It's not talking about workstations or your secretary's "Solitaire" box. In my opinion, there are several things in Linux that are attractive to large corporations:
1) Runs on Intel Architecture. If you have to construct a cluster, this becomes better than Sun in terms of pricing. 2) Costs less to manage lots of boxes. 3) PR / Marketing can announce that they're using Linux so they get another 4% chunk of the market bowing down to them.. etc. etc.
Anyhow, just remember when you hear the acronym "TCO", it's more than likely geared towards businesses particularly in the mid to large-size range. For SOHO stuff, the proper acronym is "IIC" (Is it Cheap?).
1. One CAD drawing PLEASE! I'm sick of Ford getting in the way, from a manufacturer and driver point of view, BMW is much better! Scrap Ford and then we will have a unified vehicle.
2. Cars, scrap re-invented wheels and standardize on one, get rid of Firestone, Les Schwab, Pirelli, Avon, Kumho (and many other obscure ones) and standardise on Goodyear, the standard Tire... I mean they even have a Blimp dammit!
3. One engine, scrap the one-stroke internal combustion engine, its braindead, four-stroke is much better.
4. Fix the broken Radio buttons! Some radios, you turn the knob to turn it on. Others you press the stupid button to turn it on. Don't forget that the eject button should spit out the CD, okay?!
5. Better manuals. As a driver, the BMW speedometer is very intuitive, but in Fords it sucks, for serious work, the Ford speedometer sucks!
This is not a troll, but as a manufacturer of Cars these are REAL peeves.
You can mark me offtopic. I accidentally selected Underrated for a particular comment that was obscene. I am posting this to delete all moderations in this article.
I work for some legacy crap written in C with the Source spread at customer's manufacturing facilities all over the world. Software that helps output stuff like LCD panels, CPU and memory chips.
And if any of you had the opportunity to look at the system and tried to learn what was happening you'd jump ship. Therefore, a license isn't required. The customer doesn't even dare to touch the thing when it's pumping out product that'd cost them 250k+ an hour for down time.
We had one customer try to get several of their employees to "learn" C and begin looking at our code. Well, the funny thing is, we *hired* the guy who knew the most about the system. The rest gave up and either quit the company or moved to another group.
I can imagine that they send Joe Programmer. He shows up late in ragged jeans and tennis shoes. He hasn't taken a shower in one week.
MS Rep: "The TCO of running OSS systems is..." [Joe Bursts in] Joe: "FP!!! Linux Rulz!" Chair: "Uhh... It's nice to have our OSS representative here, MS Rep please..." Joe: "Look, not sure who ask the Devil to be here, but Linux Rox, ok?!" Chair: "We'll get to your opinion after we hear about the discounts -- I mean -- opinions MS Rep has to offer." Joe: "Dude, chill out, wagalimasta, k, brutha?" MS Rep: "As I was saying, running OSS causes you to pay more money to your own people in your own country. You should pay less and only 90% of the gross will go back to Redmond." Joe: "WTF?" MS Rep: "Excuse Me?" Joe: "I just have one question: Can you make a Beowulf out of these so-called products?" MS Rep: "Uhh..." Joe: "Look Mr. Chair, they're dead in the water. Isn't the evidence conclusive!?" [Now the odor eminating from Joe Programmer begins to infiltrate the premises.] Chair: "Mr Programmer, we're going to have to ask you to leave." Joe: "Why?! That tramples on my rights! I have the right to be like this okay! This is how I am -- my Genes preprogrammed me, alright! It's all about Globalization and ANIME, okay!!!!!!!!!!!!" [The members in the meeting room look at each other dazzled as Mr. Joe leaves.]
Just look at how fat americans are getting. Taking in too much energy is wasting away as blubber on their bodies. When Americans say "No!" to Super-sizing their Big Mac Meals at McDonalds, is when they start getting conscious about pollution and other wasteful activities.
It's called kudzu. If you want a fast boot, turn it off. If you're going to upgrade a piece of hardware, turn it on.
For example, I took a hard drive with redhat installed on a 1U server with a souped up configuration and plugged it in to a barebones network computer that used some sucky Cyrix chip and a bunch of different hardware.
Redhat came up, ran kudzu and the rest of the system ran. It was slower than snot, because of the CPU, but the software did the job.
Try to do that with other OSes and you'll be hating life.
That is the exact first thing that ran across my mind. I actually tried to read through the paragraph, but with my lack of interest in the subject it was like swimming through a pool of molasses. Try that for the Adult Swim. Ahh, no wonder I filter out the Anime topic.
Maybe this is the submitters/editors way of spamming Slashdot with their fantasies of a world I don't want part of. Hmm, how do we despamify the Slashdot topics so this doesn't happen. Because "Anime is NOT Television." Everyone repeat that with me 10 times: "Anime is NOT Television."
is NetBank and it works well in Mozilla and Konq. It's been a great bank to work with, especially when I live overseas and don't have a chance to go to the "local" teller.
That's the disadvantage of Wells Fargo, et al. There are some critical services that require you to go to some local branch. Netbank doesn't and everything is quite secure.
No, I don't work for them, just informing all what it's like for me. --
I don't mean to diss their work, but considering they've spent a year "designing the architecture", where are the docs explaining exactly how it's going to work?
The open source they were referring to are the tools that make it.:-)
I believe RedHat has reversed their policy of No Patents to maintain this effect on the market by forcing openness for as many "inventions" possibly conceived of with regards to Software. It was posted here, here, and can be found here.
Yeah, it's like DFAs can represent NDFAs, but in a quite ugly manner. So, yes, if you used SAMBA's.ini format to configure BIND, it might get ugly. However, if they sat down and really attacked the problem, there definitely is a flexible, clear and concise solution that will benefit Users and Applications.
I proposed to create a clean C API that would be standardized acrossed all applications dealing with configuration files. This API would be used to create, manipulate and query configuration. Just like gethostbyname extracts information from the resolver system, a getcfgattr() or similar family of functions could help standardize things a bit more.
Of course heirarchal representation of configuration blocks and groups would also be a part of the standard. This would facilitate complex configuration scenarios such as BIND.
The standard should contain some interim solution that contains pluggable backends to interface the different configuration files. But, always emphasize that it is interim and encourage all to port their systems to use the new configuration API.
The biggest battle is political, not technical. It can be done, clean, clear and concise for all configuration scenarios such that you could still use Vi or any whizbang graphical configuration system you want. A few obstacles come to mind with this approach: 1) The sheer number of applications requiring some kind of configuration, 2) Systems are cross-platform and Linux is only but a small speck on their Radar screens and 3) Programmers have different tastes in configuring their systems.
Again the goals would need to be established to satisfy all kinds of users of the systems. But, remember, it's not to stupify the system to make dummies able to configure. Most dummies won't get down and dirty to configure things. The purpose is to make it slick. Right now, I hate to report, it ain't slick.
configuration heirarchy
You're correct, the LSB definitely needs more work in this department. The/etc directory is pretty much a random dumping ground. Heck,/var is more organized than/etc and its a dynamic directory! Go figure.
All this really means is that the bitmover guys are afraid that their technology is so non-novel it would be too easy for someone to create another tool that does the same thing. Shoot, it could be a bunch of shell scripts using diff, patch and rsync. Subsequently, you would have to invent a bunch of new vocabulary words to mask the fact it isn't original.
Let's take for example the TrollTech guys. They were derided and yelled at for awhile -- especially the KDE guys for using non-free related material. One of the reason they relicensed under the QPL and GPL was to get more market. Another prime reason is that they knew they could be faster and better than any fork off the software. That's the most important thing to remember and that's why BitKeeper has this clause in their EULA. It's because they're afraid of forks accelerating and replacing their work and so they must use legalities to protect themselves.
So, if Debian were to be consistent in their politics, they would actually put the Kernel in Non-free. How ironic. Yeah they don't actually use a library or code from them, but remember what Debian is trying to stand for.
> I don't know what they do over there, but > every student seems to ace the exams, probably > because they study so hard for them. The > exams, thus, aren't measuring anything more > than rote ability.
You're a very upbeat guy, Dan! I mean, optimistic. I'll tell you how it works -- they cheat.
I live in Taiwan and have a sister-in-law who is studying to take the GRE. The advantage in Asia (India?? -- I think this is a Rumor!) is that they have "Teachers" that take the GRE test every few months on the computer. While they are taking the test, they memorize in their heads each question. Once they're done they come back out and teach 2 month long classes for big $$$ to the students.
I don't know what the history is as far as what cancellation came first, but the GRE people have cancelled the Computer-based General test for the express purpose of reducing continuing cheating that happens in Asia.
Everything in Asia is now written and its going to stay that way for a long time. This is why previously any GRE scores coming from Asia has zero value!
You can bet whatever will degrade and demoralize society the most will win. Ahh, no one really learned from the Greeks, Romans and many great Civilizations before us. Alas, we poke fun at which will destroy us.
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> Zero clicks to an install? Hell, Debian does that.
The phrase "Clicks" includes all peripherals.
Tapes suck and are so slow. Get 30 Hard drives and mirror what you've got before you go to tape. It's such a worthless technology now--I loathe when my superiors tell me I have to make tape backups of stuff. Get CD-RW or DVD+RW, whatever.
All: Do NOT support tape technology anymore. Let's put it to rest.
Bzzz. I just did this today. The easiest way is to find the line:
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')
and then make it like this:
dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')
sendmail defaults to listen on every interface, that's why they have to explicitly restrict it to the loopback addr.
I'm tired right now, but wasn't it the RIAA goons and not Microsoft? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Like all magic potions and wonder drugs, fraud doesn't always work. Take Enron and especially the accounting firm that influenced some of their decisions. They're lying flat on their backs because of fraudulent behavior. Now if Enron isn't big enough in your definition, I don't know what is.
Maybe to you as a home user and/or small business owner, but scaling up to mid-size or large-size corporations licensing for server systems becomes moot. That's what this article is talking about, server systems ... web server to be more specific. It's not talking about workstations or your secretary's "Solitaire" box. In my opinion, there are several things in Linux that are attractive to large corporations:
1) Runs on Intel Architecture. If you have to construct a cluster, this becomes better than Sun in terms of pricing.
2) Costs less to manage lots of boxes.
3) PR / Marketing can announce that they're using Linux so they get another 4% chunk of the market bowing down to them.. etc. etc.
Anyhow, just remember when you hear the acronym "TCO", it's more than likely geared towards businesses particularly in the mid to large-size range. For SOHO stuff, the proper acronym is "IIC" (Is it Cheap?).
It was one of the IT dudes' son playing UT 2003 and said, "Man this GForce card rocks! Lemme take it home and swap it with my Trident."
1. One CAD drawing PLEASE! I'm sick of Ford getting in the way, from a manufacturer and driver point of view, BMW is much better! Scrap Ford and then we will have a unified vehicle.
2. Cars, scrap re-invented wheels and standardize on one, get rid of Firestone, Les Schwab, Pirelli,
Avon, Kumho (and many other obscure ones) and standardise on Goodyear, the standard Tire... I mean they even have a Blimp dammit!
3. One engine, scrap the one-stroke internal combustion engine, its braindead, four-stroke is much better.
4. Fix the broken Radio buttons! Some radios, you turn the knob to turn it on. Others you press the stupid button to turn it on. Don't forget that the eject button should spit out the CD, okay?!
5. Better manuals. As a driver, the BMW speedometer is very intuitive, but in Fords it sucks, for serious work, the Ford speedometer sucks!
This is not a troll, but as a manufacturer of Cars these are REAL peeves.
You can mark me offtopic. I accidentally selected Underrated for a particular comment that was obscene. I am posting this to delete all moderations in this article.
Take it easy and may Ogg Vorbis supersede MP3!
+1 Reality.
I work for some legacy crap written in C with the Source spread at customer's manufacturing facilities all over the world. Software that helps output stuff like LCD panels, CPU and memory chips.
And if any of you had the opportunity to look at the system and tried to learn what was happening you'd jump ship. Therefore, a license isn't required. The customer doesn't even dare to touch the thing when it's pumping out product that'd cost them 250k+ an hour for down time.
We had one customer try to get several of their employees to "learn" C and begin looking at our code. Well, the funny thing is, we *hired* the guy who knew the most about the system. The rest gave up and either quit the company or moved to another group.
Take that.
I can imagine that they send Joe Programmer. He shows up late in ragged jeans and tennis shoes. He hasn't taken a shower in one week.
..." ..."
MS Rep: "The TCO of running OSS systems is
[Joe Bursts in]
Joe: "FP!!! Linux Rulz!"
Chair: "Uhh... It's nice to have our OSS representative here, MS Rep please
Joe: "Look, not sure who ask the Devil to be here, but Linux Rox, ok?!"
Chair: "We'll get to your opinion after we hear about the discounts -- I mean -- opinions MS Rep has to offer."
Joe: "Dude, chill out, wagalimasta, k, brutha?"
MS Rep: "As I was saying, running OSS causes you to pay more money to your own people in your own country. You should pay less and only 90% of the gross will go back to Redmond."
Joe: "WTF?"
MS Rep: "Excuse Me?"
Joe: "I just have one question: Can you make a Beowulf out of these so-called products?"
MS Rep: "Uhh..."
Joe: "Look Mr. Chair, they're dead in the water. Isn't the evidence conclusive!?"
[Now the odor eminating from Joe Programmer begins to infiltrate the premises.]
Chair: "Mr Programmer, we're going to have to ask you to leave."
Joe: "Why?! That tramples on my rights! I have the right to be like this okay! This is how I am -- my Genes preprogrammed me, alright! It's all about Globalization and ANIME, okay!!!!!!!!!!!!"
[The members in the meeting room look at each other dazzled as Mr. Joe leaves.]
Just look at how fat americans are getting. Taking in too much energy is wasting away as blubber on their bodies. When Americans say "No!" to Super-sizing their Big Mac Meals at McDonalds, is when they start getting conscious about pollution and other wasteful activities.
It's called kudzu. If you want a fast boot, turn it off. If you're going to upgrade a piece of hardware, turn it on.
For example, I took a hard drive with redhat installed on a 1U server with a souped up configuration and plugged it in to a barebones network computer that used some sucky Cyrix chip and a bunch of different hardware.
Redhat came up, ran kudzu and the rest of the system ran. It was slower than snot, because of the CPU, but the software did the job.
Try to do that with other OSes and you'll be hating life.
So, if the company later goes IPO, owned by the public via shares, would then the source code be required to be published to the public?
That is the exact first thing that ran across my mind. I actually tried to read through the paragraph, but with my lack of interest in the subject it was like swimming through a pool of molasses. Try that for the Adult Swim. Ahh, no wonder I filter out the Anime topic.
Maybe this is the submitters/editors way of spamming Slashdot with their fantasies of a world I don't want part of. Hmm, how do we despamify the Slashdot topics so this doesn't happen. Because "Anime is NOT Television." Everyone repeat that with me 10 times: "Anime is NOT Television."
out.
is NetBank and it works well in Mozilla and Konq. It's been a great bank to work with, especially when I live overseas and don't have a chance to go to the "local" teller.
That's the disadvantage of Wells Fargo, et al. There are some critical services that require you to go to some local branch. Netbank doesn't and everything is quite secure.
No, I don't work for them, just informing all what it's like for me.
--
whatever. i mentioned a keyword and where to go search, i wasn't being snide. get over it.
I don't mean to diss their work, but considering they've spent a year "designing the architecture", where are the docs explaining exactly how it's going to work? :-)
The open source they were referring to are the tools that make it.
It's called V.Calendar. Use google.
I believe RedHat has reversed their policy of No Patents to maintain this effect on the market by forcing openness for as many "inventions" possibly conceived of with regards to Software. It was posted here, here, and can be found here.
Different programs have different needs.
.ini format to configure BIND, it might get ugly. However, if they sat down and really attacked the problem, there definitely is a flexible, clear and concise solution that will benefit Users and Applications.
/etc directory is pretty much a random dumping ground. Heck, /var is more organized than /etc and its a dynamic directory! Go figure.
Yeah, it's like DFAs can represent NDFAs, but in a quite ugly manner. So, yes, if you used SAMBA's
I proposed to create a clean C API that would be standardized acrossed all applications dealing with configuration files. This API would be used to create, manipulate and query configuration. Just like gethostbyname extracts information from the resolver system, a getcfgattr() or similar family of functions could help standardize things a bit more.
Of course heirarchal representation of configuration blocks and groups would also be a part of the standard. This would facilitate complex configuration scenarios such as BIND.
The standard should contain some interim solution that contains pluggable backends to interface the different configuration files. But, always emphasize that it is interim and encourage all to port their systems to use the new configuration API.
The biggest battle is political, not technical. It can be done, clean, clear and concise for all configuration scenarios such that you could still use Vi or any whizbang graphical configuration system you want. A few obstacles come to mind with this approach: 1) The sheer number of applications requiring some kind of configuration, 2) Systems are cross-platform and Linux is only but a small speck on their Radar screens and 3) Programmers have different tastes in configuring their systems.
Again the goals would need to be established to satisfy all kinds of users of the systems. But, remember, it's not to stupify the system to make dummies able to configure. Most dummies won't get down and dirty to configure things. The purpose is to make it slick. Right now, I hate to report, it ain't slick.
configuration heirarchy
You're correct, the LSB definitely needs more work in this department. The
All this really means is that the bitmover guys are afraid that their technology is so non-novel it would be too easy for someone to create another tool that does the same thing. Shoot, it could be a bunch of shell scripts using diff, patch and rsync. Subsequently, you would have to invent a bunch of new vocabulary words to mask the fact it isn't original.
Let's take for example the TrollTech guys. They were derided and yelled at for awhile -- especially the KDE guys for using non-free related material. One of the reason they relicensed under the QPL and GPL was to get more market. Another prime reason is that they knew they could be faster and better than any fork off the software. That's the most important thing to remember and that's why BitKeeper has this clause in their EULA. It's because they're afraid of forks accelerating and replacing their work and so they must use legalities to protect themselves.
So, if Debian were to be consistent in their politics, they would actually put the Kernel in Non-free. How ironic. Yeah they don't actually use a library or code from them, but remember what Debian is trying to stand for.
> I don't know what they do over there, but
> every student seems to ace the exams, probably
> because they study so hard for them. The
> exams, thus, aren't measuring anything more
> than rote ability.
You're a very upbeat guy, Dan! I mean, optimistic. I'll tell you how it works -- they cheat.
I live in Taiwan and have a sister-in-law who is studying to take the GRE. The advantage in Asia (India?? -- I think this is a Rumor!) is that they have "Teachers" that take the GRE test every few months on the computer. While they are taking the test, they memorize in their heads each question. Once they're done they come back out and teach 2 month long classes for big $$$ to the students.
I don't know what the history is as far as what cancellation came first, but the GRE people have cancelled the Computer-based General test for the express purpose of reducing continuing cheating that happens in Asia.
Everything in Asia is now written and its going to stay that way for a long time. This is why previously any GRE scores coming from Asia has zero value!
You can bet whatever will degrade and demoralize society the most will win. Ahh, no one really learned from the Greeks, Romans and many great Civilizations before us. Alas, we poke fun at which will destroy us.
kbye,
Now LA just needs to convert all their street signs to glass. It might be cheaper than barb wire.