Nope. I disagree. There are plenty of advocates out there right now, like RMS, ESR and BP. What we don't need is more of them, especially from the ranks of lead developers. Linus needs to keep on keepin' on and try to ignore the issue while others try to mop the mess up. It will blow over, I'm certain of it. Linus losing focus on the 2.6/3.0 kernel would only be a certain blow to future kernel development.
So, Linus, ignore all this crap and keep rockin the boat.
Pullleeez. Spare me all of this stupidity and backbiting. Here's a solution: let's have the whole world gather in a pit somewhere, say some valley near the dead sea, and just duke it out. Then when whatever blast occurs, it'll all be sorted out and we don't have to cry over who sucks at doing what.
This one guy told me they had millions of dollars in a Swiss account that they wanted to forward to me -- he had some connection with the government I think. Could we somehow utilize this seemingly untapped resource sitting in the hands of locals to fund better resources for the country as a whole?
I think the push to deprecate the term hackers is a bit too little, too late. The landside usage of the word "hacker" for someone participating in illegal activity is well out of anyone's hands to deal with, not even ESR's jargon dictionary will make it change. Why don't we face the fact that its not going to change and come up with another word? That is, for those of us that don't want to be an activist for every nitpicking thing in life.
The difference is that you know it's in the shop for a couple of days, but you don't know who or when someone is crawling around their computer via the Internet. (Unless your dad knows w, who, last or lastlogin and/var/log/secure, etc.) There's a blame factor here, too. If it's in someone's shop, it better be secured, or it's their fault. How do you draw the same analogy over to the Internet and this service?
I had this problem with one of my customer's. We have a multi-million dollar software package that is supported via a dial-up modem. I could neither successfully convince them to get broadband, nor could I convince them to leave the modem on all the time. With broadband, they were concerned with trying to push the idea with their own IT dept, who in turn want control over everything and ensure crackers do not get in. With leaving the modem all the time, the customer wanted to know when we logged in and did stuff. It's a control thing, but usually only comes up when mysterious things happen that we say is not our fault.
Anyway, if you have some answers to these, I would be most greatful to hear!
That's going into the device. Coming out of the device you can poll lots of statuses or convert a legacy serial device and hook it to the network. At our company, we use the Lantronix Device servers that come with 8 ports and 1 ethernet connection. Buying these one port at a time would be lots cheaper. Too bad you have to by lots of 10k.
The other piece went into another 8086 Unix clone called Interactive Unix. Which humerously got purchased by Sun and subsequently the technology merged to become Solaris.
# You simply can't buy an Intel/Linux server that has the stability and reliability that a Sun/Solaris box has.
Sure I can. Just depends on the software load that you put on the system and its overall architecture. Solaris has advantages on some things, but its becoming more and more marginalized by Linux as it moves forward. As far as hardware on Sparc -- in my experience I have seen it crash just as much as Intel. Of course, you say Intel, but what Vendor is producing the materials for the "Intel" system? It requires a little initial fact-finding prior to purchasing the hardware as compared to Solaris/Sparc... since Sun is the only one that spits out those systems.
The software that I'm involved in is Manufacturing Control Systems. Our architectures are quite varied from factory to factory. We've run on Xenix, Interactive Unix, Solaris 7/8, SunOS and Linux. I wasn't with the company with Xenix, but Interactive is a Dog and terrible at filesystem stuff. We used that until Sun bought it and integrated it into SunOS to become Solaris. Then we moved along with it and began using Solaris on Sparc machines. This worked quite well at one factory, except it was a bane trying to train the customer on how to setup the systems.
Then we went to Linux. Linux brought us not only more bang for our buck, but -- on an OS level -- more stability for our buck. Yes, we did purchase copies of RedHat Linux... not just download them. The first Linux/Intel system sucked entirely because of the Hardware. Well, to point the finger, it was the darned power supplies... (does that count as Intel Hardware??)... we purchased from a cheap distributor of Linux/Intel 1U servers. I won't name them here, but if you want to know, email me. It was a big mistake. So, this justifies a little bit of what you said about hardware.
But, our next system was Solaris/Sparc. This time we used jumpstart and a bunch of nifty things to make it easier for the customer to get it setup. The integration on Solaris/Sparc for these kind of things is quite cool and I hope Linux/Intel can put something similar together. Anyway, we began using NFS in our last architecture and then used the same arch on Solaris/Sparc. Huge Mistake. Don't ever run something worth over 1 billion dollars on NFS/RAID with Solaris. Sorry. The downtime/crashing that occurred with it is way above the norm. It crash 2 or 3 times last year. Horrible on the network performance too because the system may have scaled way beyond Solaris' capacity. (60 Nodes communicating with 1 Node grinds the CPU terribly on Solaris.) I know I don't have the numbers to back these up, my only benchmark is how loudly the customer yells.
Our latest system uses IBM xSeries with dual hard drives in a RAID 1 configuration. Excellent systems. The per computer cost reaches about the same price for Sparc and I would risk to say the hardware stability is there. IBM HDs are extremely reliable and the design of the systems are quite fault-tolerant. Maybe in six months, when/. dupes this story again, I'll give you an additional opinion on the matter.
The use for Linux in the Enterprise is here and now. If you cannot envision that, then you'll be left behind, plain and simple. The next stable Linux kernel will make it even more so.
Another dupe? Anyway, Aaron Swartz gave good commentary in his weblog here. It's got some linkage. Quote from Enemy of the State: "Well whose monitoring the monitors?" Gotta do some monitoring myself, see ya!
This translates to small increments in CPU speed which they can charge large increments of price for.
What? You believe that? I don't. AMD would do anything to come out tomorrow and say they have a 23 GHZ Processor and break Moores law. Do you know how they would *kill* Intel? Sorry, but there are a lot more economic variables at play than "corporations are all evil and they're out there to gut us and make a profit".
I believe it to be technical and that Moore's original observations were made based on that: technical observations. No one is following them... it just happens. Kind of like Murphy's Laws, do you think anyone simply and blindly follows those?;-)
So, what is it going to be? Do we respect both the RIAA's copyright and the copyright which GPL programs have, or do we respect neither?
We respect both copyrights, of course. However, history has shown the two different approaches between an RIAA violation and a GPL violation. Notice how the response from Linus was quite different than anything coming from Rosen. Linus uses an open method of communication, a letter, to communicate with the company.
No one is screaming litigation. They just want the two sides to come to an agreement or understand each other better.
All of this while the RIAA employs blood-sucking lawyers to further their draconian purposes and monopolistic organization.
The copyright issue remains for both; and they should be both respected. Remember, fair use, if I own a CD, I want to make that available in any listening format I please or I shoud be able to make a backup of it so the original doesn't get scratched. etc. etc.
I remember watching NGTV a show all about the Space Shuttle, I think it may have been this show. But, I'm not entirely sure. I remember they did a good portion on how exact they were about analyzing the tiles on the shuttle and in making sure they were all in place.
Right now, the guys that work their butts off to get these birds to fly are feeling pretty depressed, as is NASA in general. Politics aside, I hope that NASA maintains their ambition and continue to show leadership in space.
Ah, nostalgia!! That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the headlines... I thought they would bring back one of my most favorite games of all time-- 'til my Parents sold that good 'ole TI 99/4a in a garage sale.
I think I was 6 years old, back in '82, when I got to the impossible level 24. Had the whole family in watching... I wish I would have beat it by the time it got sold, but oh well.
It's kind of funny the parallels you see even in the latest generation of kids. I mean, my kid is 2 and he can pass levels on Super Mario. What's next? Kids out of the womb playing Quake?
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Personally I use apt-get (RPM version) and point my sources.list to here (Don't tell them I just anounced it on/.)
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It's in alpha stage, if you're behind a firewall that enforces passive ftp, you have to go in and put --passive-ftp inside the parameter to wget. Do this in that gar.lib.mk file under the ftp rule.
Why not spend more money on *preventing* war, in stead of *fighting* war?
I don't mean to shave my beard, throw out my peace sign and stop puffing on my bong, but just because the U.S. stops "killing", doesn't mean that people we care to protect will stop "dying". Just look at this crap: Human Rights.
Since these guys are hiding behind a wall of "government", then it requires war to stop crime. Yeah, announce all of your U.S. conspiricies in reply to this message, but that doesn't boil down to reality. The reality is that some people irresponsibly wield a destructive weapon and have gathered so much hatred for others that they are so willing to use it at anytime. This needs to be stopped, whether the country has oil or not. BTW, did Serbia have oil?
Anyway, I'm probably gonna get shot down on this one, especially with/. and all. So, if anyone has the same opinions as I do, help me out with more links.
When the last set of bind exploits came out no-one said "Unplug all your DNS servers", why is this any different?
Maybe because bind was built with the Internet in mind. Besides, who in their right mind (I know its redundant), would expose a database server to the Internet, whether that be Oracle, MySQL, PostgreSQL, MSSQL or anything of this nature. It should be hidden completely behind an application layer, preferrably behind a firewall.
Remember to all: This isn't about bashing Micro$oft per se, but rather bashing sysadmins who expose a database out on the net.
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Put all your freedom servers on this baby and move around to different sat links when different governments shut you down for "breaking" the "law".
Nope. I disagree. There are plenty of advocates out there right now, like RMS, ESR and BP. What we don't need is more of them, especially from the ranks of lead developers. Linus needs to keep on keepin' on and try to ignore the issue while others try to mop the mess up. It will blow over, I'm certain of it. Linus losing focus on the 2.6/3.0 kernel would only be a certain blow to future kernel development.
So, Linus, ignore all this crap and keep rockin the boat.
My question for the next Ask Slashdot is where did Jon Katz go? How should we deal with not being able to hear about theories of globalization?
Pullleeez. Spare me all of this stupidity and backbiting. Here's a solution: let's have the whole world gather in a pit somewhere, say some valley near the dead sea, and just duke it out. Then when whatever blast occurs, it'll all be sorted out and we don't have to cry over who sucks at doing what.
take care.
> All this post-9/11 paranoia is getting really ridiculous, and I can't wait till someone in power finally realizes how stupid we are being.
All this Slashdot sensationalism is getting really ridiculous.
This one guy told me they had millions of dollars in a Swiss account that they wanted to forward to me -- he had some connection with the government I think. Could we somehow utilize this seemingly untapped resource sitting in the hands of locals to fund better resources for the country as a whole?
t-i-c.
I think the push to deprecate the term hackers is a bit too little, too late. The landside usage of the word "hacker" for someone participating in illegal activity is well out of anyone's hands to deal with, not even ESR's jargon dictionary will make it change. Why don't we face the fact that its not going to change and come up with another word? That is, for those of us that don't want to be an activist for every nitpicking thing in life.
The difference is that you know it's in the shop for a couple of days, but you don't know who or when someone is crawling around their computer via the Internet. (Unless your dad knows w, who, last or lastlogin and /var/log/secure, etc.) There's a blame factor here, too. If it's in someone's shop, it better be secured, or it's their fault. How do you draw the same analogy over to the Internet and this service?
I had this problem with one of my customer's. We have a multi-million dollar software package that is supported via a dial-up modem. I could neither successfully convince them to get broadband, nor could I convince them to leave the modem on all the time. With broadband, they were concerned with trying to push the idea with their own IT dept, who in turn want control over everything and ensure crackers do not get in. With leaving the modem all the time, the customer wanted to know when we logged in and did stuff. It's a control thing, but usually only comes up when mysterious things happen that we say is not our fault.
Anyway, if you have some answers to these, I would be most greatful to hear!
Mine already works under Linux using Wine without any need to port the code. These guys did a good job.
That's going into the device. Coming out of the device you can poll lots of statuses or convert a legacy serial device and hook it to the network. At our company, we use the Lantronix Device servers that come with 8 ports and 1 ethernet connection. Buying these one port at a time would be lots cheaper. Too bad you have to by lots of 10k.
The other piece went into another 8086 Unix clone called Interactive Unix. Which humerously got purchased by Sun and subsequently the technology merged to become Solaris.
# You simply can't buy an Intel/Linux server that has the stability and reliability that a Sun/Solaris box has.
... not just download them. The first Linux/Intel system sucked entirely because of the Hardware. Well, to point the finger, it was the darned power supplies ... (does that count as Intel Hardware??) ... we purchased from a cheap distributor of Linux/Intel 1U servers. I won't name them here, but if you want to know, email me. It was a big mistake. So, this justifies a little bit of what you said about hardware.
/. dupes this story again, I'll give you an additional opinion on the matter.
.02, thanks for reading this tome.
Sure I can. Just depends on the software load that you put on the system and its overall architecture. Solaris has advantages on some things, but its becoming more and more marginalized by Linux as it moves forward. As far as hardware on Sparc -- in my experience I have seen it crash just as much as Intel. Of course, you say Intel, but what Vendor is producing the materials for the "Intel" system? It requires a little initial fact-finding prior to purchasing the hardware as compared to Solaris/Sparc... since Sun is the only one that spits out those systems.
The software that I'm involved in is Manufacturing Control Systems. Our architectures are quite varied from factory to factory. We've run on Xenix, Interactive Unix, Solaris 7/8, SunOS and Linux. I wasn't with the company with Xenix, but Interactive is a Dog and terrible at filesystem stuff. We used that until Sun bought it and integrated it into SunOS to become Solaris. Then we moved along with it and began using Solaris on Sparc machines. This worked quite well at one factory, except it was a bane trying to train the customer on how to setup the systems.
Then we went to Linux. Linux brought us not only more bang for our buck, but -- on an OS level -- more stability for our buck. Yes, we did purchase copies of RedHat Linux
But, our next system was Solaris/Sparc. This time we used jumpstart and a bunch of nifty things to make it easier for the customer to get it setup. The integration on Solaris/Sparc for these kind of things is quite cool and I hope Linux/Intel can put something similar together. Anyway, we began using NFS in our last architecture and then used the same arch on Solaris/Sparc. Huge Mistake. Don't ever run something worth over 1 billion dollars on NFS/RAID with Solaris. Sorry. The downtime/crashing that occurred with it is way above the norm. It crash 2 or 3 times last year. Horrible on the network performance too because the system may have scaled way beyond Solaris' capacity. (60 Nodes communicating with 1 Node grinds the CPU terribly on Solaris.) I know I don't have the numbers to back these up, my only benchmark is how loudly the customer yells.
Our latest system uses IBM xSeries with dual hard drives in a RAID 1 configuration. Excellent systems. The per computer cost reaches about the same price for Sparc and I would risk to say the hardware stability is there. IBM HDs are extremely reliable and the design of the systems are quite fault-tolerant. Maybe in six months, when
The use for Linux in the Enterprise is here and now. If you cannot envision that, then you'll be left behind, plain and simple. The next stable Linux kernel will make it even more so.
Just my
Pretty innovative stuff here. But, don't spend the next 72 hours programming another Web browser!
Another dupe? Anyway, Aaron Swartz gave good commentary in his weblog here. It's got some linkage. Quote from Enemy of the State: "Well whose monitoring the monitors?"
Gotta do some monitoring myself, see ya!
Now I'm wondering if we'll ever see a "CT: Yep, it's a dupe" appended to the post in under an hour.
This translates to small increments in CPU speed which they can charge large increments of price for.
;-)
What? You believe that? I don't. AMD would do anything to come out tomorrow and say they have a 23 GHZ Processor and break Moores law. Do you know how they would *kill* Intel? Sorry, but there are a lot more economic variables at play than "corporations are all evil and they're out there to gut us and make a profit".
I believe it to be technical and that Moore's original observations were made based on that: technical observations. No one is following them... it just happens. Kind of like Murphy's Laws, do you think anyone simply and blindly follows those?
What about FreedomSoft?
So, what is it going to be? Do we respect both the RIAA's copyright and the copyright which GPL programs have, or do we respect neither?
We respect both copyrights, of course. However, history has shown the two different approaches between an RIAA violation and a GPL violation. Notice how the response from Linus was quite different than anything coming from Rosen. Linus uses an open method of communication, a letter, to communicate with the company.
No one is screaming litigation. They just want the two sides to come to an agreement or understand each other better.
All of this while the RIAA employs blood-sucking lawyers to further their draconian purposes and monopolistic organization.
The copyright issue remains for both; and they should be both respected. Remember, fair use, if I own a CD, I want to make that available in any listening format I please or I shoud be able to make a backup of it so the original doesn't get scratched. etc. etc.
I remember watching NGTV a show all about the Space Shuttle, I think it may have been this show. But, I'm not entirely sure. I remember they did a good portion on how exact they were about analyzing the tiles on the shuttle and in making sure they were all in place.
Right now, the guys that work their butts off to get these birds to fly are feeling pretty depressed, as is NASA in general. Politics aside, I hope that NASA maintains their ambition and continue to show leadership in space.
Ah, nostalgia!! That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the headlines... I thought they would bring back one of my most favorite games of all time-- 'til my Parents sold that good 'ole TI 99/4a in a garage sale.
I think I was 6 years old, back in '82, when I got to the impossible level 24. Had the whole family in watching... I wish I would have beat it by the time it got sold, but oh well.
It's kind of funny the parallels you see even in the latest generation of kids. I mean, my kid is 2 and he can pass levels on Super Mario. What's next? Kids out of the womb playing Quake?
Personally I use apt-get (RPM version) and point my sources.list to here (Don't tell them I just anounced it on /.)
It's in alpha stage, if you're behind a firewall that enforces passive ftp, you have to go in and put --passive-ftp inside the parameter to wget. Do this in that gar.lib.mk file under the ftp rule.
Why not spend more money on *preventing* war, in stead of *fighting* war?
/. and all. So, if anyone has the same opinions as I do, help me out with more links.
I don't mean to shave my beard, throw out my peace sign and stop puffing on my bong, but just because the U.S. stops "killing", doesn't mean that people we care to protect will stop "dying". Just look at this crap: Human Rights.
Since these guys are hiding behind a wall of "government", then it requires war to stop crime. Yeah, announce all of your U.S. conspiricies in reply to this message, but that doesn't boil down to reality. The reality is that some people irresponsibly wield a destructive weapon and have gathered so much hatred for others that they are so willing to use it at anytime. This needs to be stopped, whether the country has oil or not. BTW, did Serbia have oil?
Anyway, I'm probably gonna get shot down on this one, especially with
When the last set of bind exploits came out no-one said "Unplug all your DNS servers", why is this any different?
Maybe because bind was built with the Internet in mind. Besides, who in their right mind (I know its redundant), would expose a database server to the Internet, whether that be Oracle, MySQL, PostgreSQL, MSSQL or anything of this nature. It should be hidden completely behind an application layer, preferrably behind a firewall.
Remember to all: This isn't about bashing Micro$oft per se, but rather bashing sysadmins who expose a database out on the net.
Got links?