There was something like this back in the day. It was a jukebox type deal, you'd pick your songs and it would make a tape for your, label and all. Maybe it made CD's too. I don't remember.
Your not a spoiler. That idea that Apple makes more software than Microsoft is one of the funniest things I've read on Slashdot yet. The post got rated +5 Insightfull too!
Here's a reality check for you Apple fans:
1. Microsoft is one of the biggest corporations in the world. 2. Microsoft is a pure software company. (Xbox, Mouse, Keyboards & Joysticks excepted) 3. Microsoft can buy Apple several times over with their pocket change.
Well I think we're pretty much done here. Just a couple of points I'd like to rebut.
I'm comparing it to the pc, since it's basically a barebones low-end pc with some media software running on it. They share ports of the same games, so they're comparable.
Yet another logical fallacy on your part. The Xbox is a console. That is its "purpose". The PC is not a console. That is not its "purpose". Regardless, what counts is whats on the screen.
And finally, I'll say goodbye by letting your words speak for itself:
For the true gamer, that's to play everything worth playing... which is one of those tasks that while never accomplished still rewards the attempt.
Not quite true. It isn't as good as the internet. It isn't as good (in my opinion) as ea's service, which until this year was available only for ps2.
I've made no comparison of the Xbox to the PC. I'm talking consoles only. Your opinion that the EA service is better is decidedly in the minority, even at Slashdot.
Again, though, I could do this from my pc (wirelessly from my sofa, outputting the display to my tv) before I got an xbox.
I suppose you can, but why would you want to? I can fry eggs on my BBQ grill too but I use the stove in the kitchen with a frying pan.
although on the internet, just like on xbox live, you're usually *not* competing against the best players
It seems your not familiar with Xbox Live. Play a late night game of MechAssault and you'll see for yourself.
Surely if I can concede that one must not own *all* of the consoles extant in order to be a fanboy, you would concede that a serious gamer would own more than just one?
I can concede that. See! We've found a middle ground that I'm satisfied with. Perhaps I'm not a serious gamer (as you would define it) but I'm a gamer non-the-less.
You are an Xbox fanboy. Were you to go around saying 'chess is the best game available' then yes, you would be a chess fanboy.
You would be correct, but I'm not asserting that "Xbox is the best console ever". Merely asserting that its the best of the three currently available. If Sony or Nintendo (or whomever) released a console superior to the Xbox than I would consider it. As it is, there is room for only 1 console in my home. Currently, the Xbox deserves that space.
Surely your not saying that its impossible to be objective about the capabilites of the gear. Is it fanboyish to state that the Xbox is the best of the bunch? I don't think so. It is. At one point the Atari 2600 was the best of the bunch (unless you asked Intelivision owners). At another point, it was the NES.
I'm wondering if your motivated by an anti-Microsoft bias.
do you find some value in all current gen consoles?
I suppose. I'm not qualified to answer that question in detail though since I don't own a PS2 or GC. If the Xbox never existed I suppose I would own a GC so I can play the high-quality Mario games. The deciding factor for me was Xbox Live. Live is excellent and it currently has no peers, so the choice was quite easy.
or are you one of those people who tells everyone who's playing a ps2 or gamecube how much they're missing by not playing an xbox instead?
I have told people about that Xbox Live is the greatest innovation in console gaming in a long time. I think any objective observer would agree. There is nothing like it. Playing against the best players in the world from my sofa is quite an experience.
When you say next console...that implies you had at least 1 console already, thus making you less likely to be a fanboy. However, that only applies if the other console you have is current generation. (or one of them is)
We covered this ground already. I believe you conceded this point. It's quite possible to be a fan of gaming in general without obligating yourself to every piece of hardware available. Whats to stop the next person from asserting that owning two current consoles is not enough to qualify as a gamer; that you must have all three consoles!
I love playing video games. I own a Xbox because it is the best video game console system available. I also play games on my PC. I also play Uno, Scrabble & chess. Am I a chess fanboy because I don't play checkers?
You make a bunch of good points. I drive a 2000 3 Series myself and I think its great (Although it has more minor problems than my '88 Accord with 200k miles).
I'm also use Apple products professionaly.
What I'm sad about is the perception that Apple is cultivating for itself.
These days, when I think of Apple I think: elite, expensive, fashionable, trendy, Hollywood
For a good laugh, go back and read some of the early postings and comments on Slashdot regarding the Xbox.
They were about as wrong as it gets.
The Xbox team has proved that they know what their doing. They have earned my trust.
Backward compatability is nice, but I could care less if its there or not. If the Xbox and Live are any indication, the second generation is gonna rock hard and non-ideological gamers will gravitate towards it just like they did with the Xbox.
"Most of the CS students I know at my college have switched to Linux. So 5% is pretty serious competition when it contains nearly half of the demographic that decides the future of software development."
Boy-oh-boy, are you in for a rude awakening. You think code-monkeys have much say in the product development cycle?
You'll get a taste of the real world sooner or later.
Your argument is juvinile at best. Here are two examples for you:
1. Windows OS 2. Office Suite
You might say that Linux/MacOS & Open Office are "viable" competitors, in which case I might say that a combined 5% market share (at best) is hardly "viable".
You might also argue that Microsoft has not improved either Windows or Office, in which case...well, I think that would speak for itself.
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Drudge, along with Limbaugh is one of the biggest whores for the RNC out there.
Well said. Slashdot is quickly becoming the FreeRepublic or Lucianne.com of MS Haters.
It's too bad. What a great resource wasted on the ignorant.
I propose a new law:
Whenever a Slashdot poster mentions MS BOB (released almost a decade ago) the thread is officialy over.
Slashdot Editors,
Sooner or later you guys need to grow up. Suggestions:
1) Replace the broken windows icons with something more professional.
2) Create a Windows catagory.
Seriously, its getting tiresome.
Can someone please explain what the point of this post is? Exactly what about is "Informative"?
At $50/yr it comes out to about 1 dime and 1 nickel per day to play online as much as you want, whenever you want.
There was something like this back in the day. It was a jukebox type deal, you'd pick your songs and it would make a tape for your, label and all. Maybe it made CD's too. I don't remember.
Your not a spoiler. That idea that Apple makes more software than Microsoft is one of the funniest things I've read on Slashdot yet. The post got rated +5 Insightfull too!
Here's a reality check for you Apple fans:
1. Microsoft is one of the biggest corporations in the world.
2. Microsoft is a pure software company. (Xbox, Mouse, Keyboards & Joysticks excepted)
3. Microsoft can buy Apple several times over with their pocket change.
Apple also makes more software than Microsoft
Score:5, Insightful
If the network were free, I'd have less of a problem with this. But XBL isn't free.
Which is why upgrades/patches/content are only available for Xbox Live enabled games per MS policy (as I understand it).
Well I think we're pretty much done here. Just a couple of points I'd like to rebut.
I'm comparing it to the pc, since it's basically a barebones low-end pc with some media software running on it. They share ports of the same games, so they're comparable.
Yet another logical fallacy on your part. The Xbox is a console. That is its "purpose". The PC is not a console. That is not its "purpose". Regardless, what counts is whats on the screen.
And finally, I'll say goodbye by letting your words speak for itself:
For the true gamer, that's to play everything worth playing... which is one of those tasks that while never accomplished still rewards the attempt.
The only xbox game I own is ninja gaiden
Not quite true. It isn't as good as the internet. It isn't as good (in my opinion) as ea's service, which until this year was available only for ps2.
I've made no comparison of the Xbox to the PC. I'm talking consoles only. Your opinion that the EA service is better is decidedly in the minority, even at Slashdot.
Again, though, I could do this from my pc (wirelessly from my sofa, outputting the display to my tv) before I got an xbox.
I suppose you can, but why would you want to? I can fry eggs on my BBQ grill too but I use the stove in the kitchen with a frying pan.
although on the internet, just like on xbox live, you're usually *not* competing against the best players
It seems your not familiar with Xbox Live. Play a late night game of MechAssault and you'll see for yourself.
Surely if I can concede that one must not own *all* of the consoles extant in order to be a fanboy, you would concede that a serious gamer would own more than just one?
I can concede that. See! We've found a middle ground that I'm satisfied with. Perhaps I'm not a serious gamer (as you would define it) but I'm a gamer non-the-less.
You are an Xbox fanboy. Were you to go around saying 'chess is the best game available' then yes, you would be a chess fanboy.
You would be correct, but I'm not asserting that "Xbox is the best console ever". Merely asserting that its the best of the three currently available. If Sony or Nintendo (or whomever) released a console superior to the Xbox than I would consider it. As it is, there is room for only 1 console in my home. Currently, the Xbox deserves that space.
Surely your not saying that its impossible to be objective about the capabilites of the gear. Is it fanboyish to state that the Xbox is the best of the bunch? I don't think so. It is. At one point the Atari 2600 was the best of the bunch (unless you asked Intelivision owners). At another point, it was the NES.
I'm wondering if your motivated by an anti-Microsoft bias.
do you find some value in all current gen consoles?
I suppose. I'm not qualified to answer that question in detail though since I don't own a PS2 or GC. If the Xbox never existed I suppose I would own a GC so I can play the high-quality Mario games. The deciding factor for me was Xbox Live. Live is excellent and it currently has no peers, so the choice was quite easy.
or are you one of those people who tells everyone who's playing a ps2 or gamecube how much they're missing by not playing an xbox instead?
I have told people about that Xbox Live is the greatest innovation in console gaming in a long time. I think any objective observer would agree. There is nothing like it. Playing against the best players in the world from my sofa is quite an experience.
When you say next console...that implies you had at least 1 console already, thus making you less likely to be a fanboy. However, that only applies if the other console you have is current generation. (or one of them is)
We covered this ground already. I believe you conceded this point. It's quite possible to be a fan of gaming in general without obligating yourself to every piece of hardware available. Whats to stop the next person from asserting that owning two current consoles is not enough to qualify as a gamer; that you must have all three consoles!
I love playing video games. I own a Xbox because it is the best video game console system available. I also play games on my PC. I also play Uno, Scrabble & chess. Am I a chess fanboy because I don't play checkers?
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You make a bunch of good points. I drive a 2000 3 Series myself and I think its great (Although it has more minor problems than my '88 Accord with 200k miles).
I'm also use Apple products professionaly.
What I'm sad about is the perception that Apple is cultivating for itself.
These days, when I think of Apple I think: elite, expensive, fashionable, trendy, Hollywood
iPods and Beemers. Somehow it all fits (and not for the better).
I miss the old Apple days (before they became a fashion statement)
Exactly. The Xbox controller has taken on a mythical status all its own.
It's by far the most ergonomical of all controllers.
For a good laugh, go back and read some of the early postings and comments on Slashdot regarding the Xbox.
They were about as wrong as it gets.
The Xbox team has proved that they know what their doing. They have earned my trust.
Backward compatability is nice, but I could care less if its there or not. If the Xbox and Live are any indication, the second generation is gonna rock hard and non-ideological gamers will gravitate towards it just like they did with the Xbox.
"Most of the CS students I know at my college have switched to Linux. So 5% is pretty serious competition when it contains nearly half of the demographic that decides the future of software development."
Boy-oh-boy, are you in for a rude awakening. You think code-monkeys have much say in the product development cycle?
You'll get a taste of the real world sooner or later.
I'm sorry for asking this, but are you being sarcastic?
Your argument is juvinile at best. Here are two examples for you:
1. Windows OS
2. Office Suite
You might say that Linux/MacOS & Open Office are "viable" competitors, in which case I might say that a combined 5% market share (at best) is hardly "viable".
You might also argue that Microsoft has not improved either Windows or Office, in which case...well, I think that would speak for itself.
I swear I've been through all of them and they all had big issues.
I'm curious about the best aggregators for all the OS's
Why would I buy the Xbox version when the PC version is cheaper, better, and able to run well on relatively low spec machines?
So you could play it while lounging on your couch, big screen HDTV, 5.1 sound, cool glass of iced tea.
"Especially on a console whos main userbase comprises of fans of Driving Games, First Person Shooters, and half decent PC ports."
Xbox Top Sellers:
- MechAssault
- Crimson Skies
- Ninja Gaiden
- Knights of the Old Republic
No driving game, FPS or PC port in the bunch.