because of the religious beliefs of the ISP management, customers will no longer be able to access any website that offers medical information about birth control or abortions,
Every time a NN proponent comes up with this kind of ridiculous hypothetical situation, they make their argument look ridiculous. Given that there can be serious, real issues, why do you folks keep trying to go further and further into imaginary-land?
Why not go fully nutzo? As long as the ISP tells you ahead of time that they're coming to confiscate your firstborn male child, they're hunky-dory! And if you don't have a child, yet, as long as they tell you they're going to come rape your wife, they're hunky-dory! And if you don't have a male child, they'll take your girl child and create a male child for you! And then burn your house down! All HUNKY-DORY because they told you in advance.
This didn't happen in 2014. Why do you think it will suddenly become a problem today?
Awesome, go ahead and throw out those strawmen, make sure you engage in the maximum amount of hyperbole to obfuscate the original argument!
One question I always have for NN opponents like yourselves, why do you trust the ISPs? Why do you simply take them at their word that they won't do anything wrong? They have proven in the past they are willing to engage in both anti-competitive and anti-consumer behavior, but you still go on thinking they are on your side, and that they are trustworthy. Why?
The whole point to NN regulations is to ensure there will be legal consequences to anti-consumer behavior, yet you want to just let the "free" market decide. Why do you ignore the evidence that they will not act in your best interest, and throw out any controls that can help ensure they do?
I think you will find that stuff that costs extra will be routed around. People like free too much and nothing will change from how it is right now.
If I pull up YouTube tomorrow and get a message "Only $99.99/year for full speed or resolution", I'm going to be saying goodbye the YouTube and use a site that doesn't do that.
How do you route around these restrictions when every backbone provider is charging extra for prioritization? Who are you going to send your traffic through when they are all playing the same game?
"that someday I hope to turn into an income-generating company"
It's not a big deal to you. Your idea is that the internet will be wrecked when your "someday" idea happens.
But the internet will be just fine. I dare you to bet money that this will ruin the internet.
Take some meds. Maybe smoke some weed. Relax. Maybe the cell phone companies toll-charge Facebook or Disney some, they have deep pockets.
No one is coming after your little idea, you don't have any coin in your pocket.
Big fish have coin in pocket, big fish like Facebook or Microsoft Skype use lot of bandwidth.
And you don't seem to understand that's exactly his point. Big fish with deep pockets will be able to pay, and those are the entities the bandwidth providers are targeting. Small fish with no pockets will not be able to pay for prioritization, which will prevent their entry to the market. The problem with this lack of neutrality protections for the internet doesn't mean the internet will be destroyed, it means the internet will no longer be allowed to grow. The only people who will be able to introduce any new services will be those already established companies that have plenty of money to ensure they have the bandwidth and response time they need, and of course those that are providing the bandwidth. The fear is that the internet will be become the modern equivalent of 90s era AOL; a managed experience and walled garden without any potential for growth that hasn't been carefully curated.
Well, thanks for your judgement of fat people and the advice you have given. Now, if you will step off your fat hate soapbox for a moment, let me try to get you to see things from a different perspective.
For YOU water suppresses cravings. For YOU this is common sense. You lack a fundamental understanding of how excessive sugar affects the body, and the mindset of an overweight person. For an obese person food, especially sugar, are drugs. They cause the same response in the body that any other addictive substance or activity does for a normal person. When an obese person eats a large pizza or a tub of ice cream it is causing a pleasure response in their brain. Stopping this behavior (cutting out sugar or fat or whatever from the diet) causes withdrawal symptoms. How easy do you think it would be for you to detox from heroin, or even cigarettes? The addiction to food causes a feedback loop, the brain sitting there saying "You can have more. Come on, it will make us feel good, we will worry about the diet tomorrow" and when you give in it just reinforces the cycle. In the end it takes a great amount of willpower and determination, and not a little physical pain, to truly adjust your eating habits and lose weight. Just like any other addiction this feeling doesn't go away, it just lessens over time. A formerly obese person needs to exercise constant willpower to not regress into the addiction.
It's a much more subtle addiction then drugs or porn or whatever, because when it starts it is very hard to know that it is a bad thing. When you snort a line of coke or shoot some heroin you have at least some idea that what you are doing is bad and could lead to a severe problem, with food it is not so easy to draw the line between normal and problem eating. Stop judging fat people as lazy or worthless, and instead see them for what they are, addicts.
The City of Dallas is using BioDiesel in it's building maintenance trucks, 544 of them. Here is a link to the City web page http://www.dallascityhall.com/dallas/eng/html/gdal i_ebs_biodisel.html; I couldn't find one showing actual data on cost saving or emmissions tests, but the general consensus is that it it a Good Thing. Hell, even Willie Nelson has opened a chain of BioDiesel stations, and there are a number of independants spread over the metroplex. Most of these are using B20, a blend of 20% BioDiesel and 80% Petrolium Diesel. Imagine how much better is can be when they convert to a higher blend, probably B80.
The city also runs Natural Gas in it's busses. The air quality in Dallas is better than it used to be, based just on my impression of the way things are.
Bio is the way to go IMO, especially when produced by small time operators. We have so much of the raw materiel that is treated as waste matter (cooking oil), we can kill multiple birds with one or two old water heater processors.
Exactly why I tell the checker I do not have a club card, request one, and pay in cash with every transaction. IMO no supermarket has the right to collect personally identifiable information on my purchases for whatever purpose they choose.
The thing I find disturbing about this is the casual disregard the police displayed for the investigative process. They pulled the records from the grocery store database, then arrested a man with no corroborating evidence. In this case, and admittedly and obviously flawed (and easily spoofable) tracking system was used to put a man in jail.
Funny.. this is a post about what you believe even without the ability to prove it. Therefore you tearing into his belief with "proofs" is rather unreasonable.
Can you absolutely and completely prove the big bang happened?
Man, plenty of people flying off the handle here..
I agree with the grandparent. I support around 100 XP desktops on a daily basis and get very few crashes. I have every type of user in my installed base, neophytes, computer-phobic, wannabe tech gurus, etc. The only ones I ever have problems with are the roadwarriors that are surfing porn half the day, that end up with massive adware and spyware infections.
All of my users have admin rights (Need it for a legacy program we use), and I have honestly never seen a BSOD, or a reboot, on any of their machines.
Maybe those that are seeing nothing but problems with their XP installs need to re-evaluate their abilities as Windows system administrators.
the "modern" superheroes who's careers started ten or twelve years ago, while the "Earth 2" universe had many older heroes who's careers started before WWII. On Earth 2, many of these heroes were retired and had kids or sidekicks who had taken over their hero-identities. Batman/Bruce Wayne had married (and died?) and had had a daughter (Helena Wayne - see
Hmmm.. I only remember the bionic kid and dirt people from Earth 2. And Rebecca Gayheart. Yummy.
Maybe Bruce Wayne was a stowaway on one of the lander pods?
I think people should read the articles they submit. Best Buy did NOT say they fired customers. Also, in my experience, Best Buy has been a better retailer than Wal Mart, Circuit City, Target and the like. I've received great service and pricing there and 100% satisfaction when I needed to return a dud digital camera.
Wait a minute, this is Slashdot. You can't come around here saying you "like" or are "satisfied" with something! You need to have one of your customer service hell stories. Tell us about the time you screamed for 45 minutes just to replace a $20 game! Or when the employee dropped a Toshiba HDTV on your foot! Damn man, read the rules!
No go back to your corner until you have a good story.
Not really true. A lot of the added value for me is to be able to buy a computer that will work properly with HDTV. If I could buy a computer that guarantees out of the box it will work properly without having to go through the standard HDPC tweaks in a do-it-yourself project, I would gladly purchase it.
Honestly, I would prefer the post-it notes on the monitor scenario. I admin a small office (50-100 people) where everyone knows and trusts everyone else. More importantly, everyone has the same access to files except for the C** higherup types. Any files that need to be secure are, and nobody except me knows the higherup's passwords.
My biggest worry here is a network cracking attempt, not an internal one. As we grow, we will of course have to enforce far more secure policies, but as it is now there is really no reason why people could not have fantasticaly complex passwords and just write them down. As long as they do not throw them in the trash that is.:)
I'm on a couple of these "fax your representative and senators" alert systems now. I have two feelings on them, either they've opened a new avenue (or rather mass transport for an older one" for communicating with our public servants, or they will just further immunize our representatives from individual opinions.
Of course the Senators and Congressmen (or thier staffers) are simply adding rules or filters to thier email to shuffle all messages from a "One-Click-Email" system into a folder they never read. Or possibly/dev/null.
Kudos on the Izzard quote:)
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Actually, they are not "gangs" in the legal sense, they are all just kids who happened to know each other. The two groups are kids who went to different high schools, they had not been identified as gangs previously. Just the local media doing a little of it's own FUD and slapping a label on them.
This is hilarious. Myself and my friends around Dallas had been talking about this fight all week, about how dumb it was in general, how stupid people were to let someone videotape it (that's how they identified the participants), and how surprised we were at the lack of knives and guns, and that most of the fights were one-on-one instead of the normal "gang up on one person" kind of fight you see around here. There has been a lot of video of the fight on local TV as well. It is amazing to see it show up on the Slashdot homepage, world colliding kind of strange.
And no, these kids were not "computer nerds". In fact, that part of Garland is considered a low-wealth, blue collar area; these are just punk kids who happen to use computers.
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because of the religious beliefs of the ISP management, customers will no longer be able to access any website that offers medical information about birth control or abortions,
Every time a NN proponent comes up with this kind of ridiculous hypothetical situation, they make their argument look ridiculous. Given that there can be serious, real issues, why do you folks keep trying to go further and further into imaginary-land?
Why not go fully nutzo? As long as the ISP tells you ahead of time that they're coming to confiscate your firstborn male child, they're hunky-dory! And if you don't have a child, yet, as long as they tell you they're going to come rape your wife, they're hunky-dory! And if you don't have a male child, they'll take your girl child and create a male child for you! And then burn your house down! All HUNKY-DORY because they told you in advance.
This didn't happen in 2014. Why do you think it will suddenly become a problem today?
Awesome, go ahead and throw out those strawmen, make sure you engage in the maximum amount of hyperbole to obfuscate the original argument!
One question I always have for NN opponents like yourselves, why do you trust the ISPs? Why do you simply take them at their word that they won't do anything wrong? They have proven in the past they are willing to engage in both anti-competitive and anti-consumer behavior, but you still go on thinking they are on your side, and that they are trustworthy. Why?
The whole point to NN regulations is to ensure there will be legal consequences to anti-consumer behavior, yet you want to just let the "free" market decide. Why do you ignore the evidence that they will not act in your best interest, and throw out any controls that can help ensure they do?
I think you will find that stuff that costs extra will be routed around. People like free too much and nothing will change from how it is right now.
If I pull up YouTube tomorrow and get a message "Only $99.99/year for full speed or resolution", I'm going to be saying goodbye the YouTube and use a site that doesn't do that.
How do you route around these restrictions when every backbone provider is charging extra for prioritization? Who are you going to send your traffic through when they are all playing the same game?
"that someday I hope to turn into an income-generating company"
It's not a big deal to you. Your idea is that the internet will be wrecked when your "someday" idea happens.
But the internet will be just fine. I dare you to bet money that this will ruin the internet.
Take some meds. Maybe smoke some weed. Relax. Maybe the cell phone companies toll-charge Facebook or Disney some, they have deep pockets.
No one is coming after your little idea, you don't have any coin in your pocket.
Big fish have coin in pocket, big fish like Facebook or Microsoft Skype use lot of bandwidth.
And you don't seem to understand that's exactly his point. Big fish with deep pockets will be able to pay, and those are the entities the bandwidth providers are targeting. Small fish with no pockets will not be able to pay for prioritization, which will prevent their entry to the market. The problem with this lack of neutrality protections for the internet doesn't mean the internet will be destroyed, it means the internet will no longer be allowed to grow. The only people who will be able to introduce any new services will be those already established companies that have plenty of money to ensure they have the bandwidth and response time they need, and of course those that are providing the bandwidth. The fear is that the internet will be become the modern equivalent of 90s era AOL; a managed experience and walled garden without any potential for growth that hasn't been carefully curated.
Well, thanks for your judgement of fat people and the advice you have given. Now, if you will step off your fat hate soapbox for a moment, let me try to get you to see things from a different perspective.
For YOU water suppresses cravings. For YOU this is common sense. You lack a fundamental understanding of how excessive sugar affects the body, and the mindset of an overweight person. For an obese person food, especially sugar, are drugs. They cause the same response in the body that any other addictive substance or activity does for a normal person. When an obese person eats a large pizza or a tub of ice cream it is causing a pleasure response in their brain. Stopping this behavior (cutting out sugar or fat or whatever from the diet) causes withdrawal symptoms. How easy do you think it would be for you to detox from heroin, or even cigarettes? The addiction to food causes a feedback loop, the brain sitting there saying "You can have more. Come on, it will make us feel good, we will worry about the diet tomorrow" and when you give in it just reinforces the cycle. In the end it takes a great amount of willpower and determination, and not a little physical pain, to truly adjust your eating habits and lose weight. Just like any other addiction this feeling doesn't go away, it just lessens over time. A formerly obese person needs to exercise constant willpower to not regress into the addiction.
It's a much more subtle addiction then drugs or porn or whatever, because when it starts it is very hard to know that it is a bad thing. When you snort a line of coke or shoot some heroin you have at least some idea that what you are doing is bad and could lead to a severe problem, with food it is not so easy to draw the line between normal and problem eating. Stop judging fat people as lazy or worthless, and instead see them for what they are, addicts.
Only 2 more months before CDW and Insight start pushing this as hard as possible. Gonna have to educate the PHB before they get their hooks into him.
The city also runs Natural Gas in it's busses. The air quality in Dallas is better than it used to be, based just on my impression of the way things are.
Bio is the way to go IMO, especially when produced by small time operators. We have so much of the raw materiel that is treated as waste matter (cooking oil), we can kill multiple birds with one or two old water heater processors.
The white mice put them there. Where have you been?
Is this where I mention Godwin's law?
Exactly why I tell the checker I do not have a club card, request one, and pay in cash with every transaction. IMO no supermarket has the right to collect personally identifiable information on my purchases for whatever purpose they choose.
The thing I find disturbing about this is the casual disregard the police displayed for the investigative process. They pulled the records from the grocery store database, then arrested a man with no corroborating evidence. In this case, and admittedly and obviously flawed (and easily spoofable) tracking system was used to put a man in jail.
Funny.. this is a post about what you believe even without the ability to prove it. Therefore you tearing into his belief with "proofs" is rather unreasonable.
Can you absolutely and completely prove the big bang happened?
Man, plenty of people flying off the handle here..
I agree with the grandparent. I support around 100 XP desktops on a daily basis and get very few crashes. I have every type of user in my installed base, neophytes, computer-phobic, wannabe tech gurus, etc. The only ones I ever have problems with are the roadwarriors that are surfing porn half the day, that end up with massive adware and spyware infections.
All of my users have admin rights (Need it for a legacy program we use), and I have honestly never seen a BSOD, or a reboot, on any of their machines.
Maybe those that are seeing nothing but problems with their XP installs need to re-evaluate their abilities as Windows system administrators.
the "modern" superheroes who's careers started ten or twelve years ago, while the "Earth 2" universe had many older heroes who's careers started before WWII. On Earth 2, many of these heroes were retired and had kids or sidekicks who had taken over their hero-identities. Batman/Bruce Wayne had married (and died?) and had had a daughter (Helena Wayne - see
Hmmm.. I only remember the bionic kid and dirt people from Earth 2. And Rebecca Gayheart. Yummy.
Maybe Bruce Wayne was a stowaway on one of the lander pods?
I think people should read the articles they submit. Best Buy did NOT say they fired customers. Also, in my experience, Best Buy has been a better retailer than Wal Mart, Circuit City, Target and the like. I've received great service and pricing there and 100% satisfaction when I needed to return a dud digital camera.
Wait a minute, this is Slashdot. You can't come around here saying you "like" or are "satisfied" with something! You need to have one of your customer service hell stories. Tell us about the time you screamed for 45 minutes just to replace a $20 game! Or when the employee dropped a Toshiba HDTV on your foot! Damn man, read the rules!
No go back to your corner until you have a good story.
Well, we are talking about the government here...
Would we always loose one monk to parity?
Poor monk...
Not really true. A lot of the added value for me is to be able to buy a computer that will work properly with HDTV. If I could buy a computer that guarantees out of the box it will work properly without having to go through the standard HDPC tweaks in a do-it-yourself project, I would gladly purchase it.
Honestly, I would prefer the post-it notes on the monitor scenario. I admin a small office (50-100 people) where everyone knows and trusts everyone else. More importantly, everyone has the same access to files except for the C** higherup types. Any files that need to be secure are, and nobody except me knows the higherup's passwords.
:)
My biggest worry here is a network cracking attempt, not an internal one. As we grow, we will of course have to enforce far more secure policies, but as it is now there is really no reason why people could not have fantasticaly complex passwords and just write them down. As long as they do not throw them in the trash that is.
Or meaner ones...
I'm on a couple of these "fax your representative and senators" alert systems now. I have two feelings on them, either they've opened a new avenue (or rather mass transport for an older one" for communicating with our public servants, or they will just further immunize our representatives from individual opinions.
/dev/null.
:)
Of course the Senators and Congressmen (or thier staffers) are simply adding rules or filters to thier email to shuffle all messages from a "One-Click-Email" system into a folder they never read. Or possibly
Kudos on the Izzard quote
Actually, they are not "gangs" in the legal sense, they are all just kids who happened to know each other. The two groups are kids who went to different high schools, they had not been identified as gangs previously. Just the local media doing a little of it's own FUD and slapping a label on them.
This is hilarious. Myself and my friends around Dallas had been talking about this fight all week, about how dumb it was in general, how stupid people were to let someone videotape it (that's how they identified the participants), and how surprised we were at the lack of knives and guns, and that most of the fights were one-on-one instead of the normal "gang up on one person" kind of fight you see around here. There has been a lot of video of the fight on local TV as well. It is amazing to see it show up on the Slashdot homepage, world colliding kind of strange.
And no, these kids were not "computer nerds". In fact, that part of Garland is considered a low-wealth, blue collar area; these are just punk kids who happen to use computers.
Actually, I would have said "Games based on movies do almost always suck, going back to ET for the Atari 2600".
That defined not only a bad movie/video game crossover, but also just a horribly confusing game.
I just wonder about the last time a girl was in that room...
Nahhhhh..