Not at all.
One of the freedoms the GPL grants is if you modify software you don't have to give anyone those changes. You are not forced to distribute Free Software. If you do give it out it must be GPL and the source must be included. You can read the
The modern BSD license is oftern called public domain with credit. BSD code may be redistributed under any license as long as credit is given to the developers.
The original apple license required modifications to be submitted to apple. The Apple public license was not an approved as a open source license until this clause was removed.
Free Software is about freedom. It attempts to mamimize freedom with a philisophy of "you freedom to punch me in the face ends where my face begins." Forceing submission of changes takes away freedom.
Hope its good old ftp. But your right about ftp not being a yast dependancy, or part of the default install. It took me a while to figure out what the hells wrong with yast.
Well I really dont see how burning a small boot ISO (~16 megs) or making 2 disks is hard.
Find a fast mirror (got a few good ones in the US).
Install whatever you think is the bare minimim for you, being sure to include ftp so yast can download additional stuff later, and lynx to start installing Helixcode. Also install X, but if your not installing X your not installing Helixcode. (do not install gnome your gonna use helix stuff.
After the installation is finished start up X, open an xterm and type xhost +localhost; su root -c "lynx -source http://go-gnome.com", and install helix.
now you got yourself a system.
if your installing to several systems make a local mirror of the 8.3 dir on ftp.suse.com and enjoy some lightening fast 100MBps network installs. When I buy Suse CD sets I copy the DVD to a server on the network and install/upgrade via ftp/NFS. its quite rare I do a CD or DVD install.
OpenBSD: Secure as all hell and more elitest than the rest of you all.
But never judge an OS until you fire it up in bochs and give it a run. I've been playin with ReactOS a free NT clone for a while now and I like it. Definatly not your everyday OS, but its starting o get the GDI and theres plans for a java subsystem. I think it will gain a bit of popularity as the days go by.
2. Should be 5% bigger than the parent star
Would the laws of physics allow this? I suppose you mean at least 5% smaller. Last time I checked the sun was far bigger than any planet.
Where can I purchase this telephone? And let me stamp out the trolls by saying:
Image playing quake on a beowulf of these while calling Natalie Portman up and asking her if you can pour grits on her.
We'll still need the admins, to recompile everything when version 2.0 of the resulting Lin-NT-XP with the NT kernel as the core, Subsystems for Dos, Win16, Win32, Linux and Java, GTK and QT libs integrated mozilla browser to replace IE and god knows what the hell else were going to stick in it just cause we can.
I personally would just stick to FreeBSD if the NT source were released. There would be to much infighting in the NT camp about directions to go and how to revamp the build system. The Linux camps would take segments of the code and port it all over to linux. However, the FreeBSD camp would refine there NTFS driver with the new source code, perhaps improve ACLs, and port over the good that comes from the NT and Linux People.
Besides, do you know how long its going to take for a properly disorganized group to get together and be considered the "official" project leads. If Microsoft did a Mozilla or Watcom thing and provided engineers and project management until a community formed around the code then we would see a truely beautiful OS a year from said happening. There would be a compile without IE option, a side project to make gecko the rendering engine for IE, Built in SSH, X11 and more. You can't just release a tarball of source code into the wild and expect it to evolve, you need some organization.
Well the real prolem with all this is if you die and they freeze you, you get thawed out as a corpse. Once we solve the freezing people properly problem we still have more to do. Although, at the very least all this cooling technology might be useful for hardwae manufacturers.
Flash freezing works great for mice and suck, but I don't know of anyone that has successfully done it to large animals. The larger an animal is the longer it is going to retain its heat when immersed in something really cold. Now last time I looked into it, most scientists believed current people freezing methods are not good enough to prevent water from forming crystals. However, If you drop a gerbil in some liquid nitrogen and let it thaw out at room temperature chances are it will unfreeze and walk around.
Well I'd have to look into standards and such, but perhaps the problem is that in BSD the bash port should have a default prefix of '/'. Perhaps all shells belong there. Then again you have the same problem with perl. Do you do a #!/usr/bin/perl or #!/usr/local/bin/perl? Mabey we all need to get together and rethink the right way to #!.
But that not out of box configuration. Yeah I can take a solaris and add a whole lot of gnu programs to it. I can add zsh, wmaker, wget, gcc, vim and all their friends. for that matter too. I can do the same thing for windows and cygwin too. Were talking out of box configuration though. Granted if you buy a sun you probally can figure out how to install bash, or at least your sysadmin can if your a phb. However, thats not out of box.
Ok but the point is my friends are early adopter type people. They were the first to leave there home PCs on 24/7. Now even my aunt who's a salesman for a shipping company does. Stuff we do tends to drip down to the masses. More and more people are leaving there computer on 24/7. I think the pattern is going to continue until everyone but the I don't have a cell phone crowd does it. At that point people are going to adopt newer clients and protocols that will eventually turn it email.
I never used zsh so I can't comment on that. While I'm not completely against using it in shell scripts, I would never use it for a shell scripts. genmenu, a shell script that generates menus for various window managers uses bash and while all that means for a FreeBSD user such as myself is changing the first line to #!/usr/local/bin/bash, its still annoying. Of course I should probally rewrite the one loop that depends on bash and email it to t developer.
Well how do we stop everyone from doing this. Most of my friends leave aim on all the time. Most of them are engineering students some of which will go on to write software which might be instant messaging clients. Some might propose to management that more features might be added for using it as a non realtime method. I think I'm just an early adopter that implemented these features in a home-grown manner.
Ok first of all I'm joking. I don't own a gun, I've fired.22 rifles and 20 guage shot guns on ocassion and handled a few handguns, mostly.45s, non of them were loaded.
And the point of a mercury tipped bullet, if the front was open and covered by something such as wax that would evaporate upon firing is the mercury would be put inder great pressure upon the slug being fired due to thee air pressure pushing it back. Upon impact the bullet would slow down and the mercury would vaporize due to the temperature increace from the pressure. Due to momentum the exit wound would be huge and the collateral damage would be nerver damage to anyone behind the person.
Wether this really would work I don't know, but I dont have the proper balistics testing lab, or klnowledge of how to hand assemble shutgun rounds to test my idea.
So I guess that fact that I have gaim running on a vnc session set up purely for runnin said gaim session, attemopt to be signed on 99.99% of the time. Only log on from this one client (until I get the time to to write a program to update the chat logs remotely), hardly check my IMs, don't always put up an away message and frequently have voicemail tag like conversations with people ove the course of several days is missing the whole point.
I hate to say it, and you can argue that/bin/sh should be linked to ash and not bash or a port true of the one true bourne, but Linux kicks the shit outta Solaris, the BSDs and I'm sure most unixes I've not tried in terms of default CLI. Bash may be big, it may be bloated, it may be the emacs of shells, but it has the best out of box tab completion and command history.
Sure, if I were setting up a 486 to provide shell access to 500 vt420s I would setup tcsh as the default shell and enable tab completion and command history in an attempt to save a little ram. However, in most situations Bash is well worth the bloat.
For those that think bash is indeed to bloated, just remember, vi was considered bloatware at the time it was first introduced, so unless you use ed on your dual athalon via a serial terminal, because a video card and 14" monitor would be a waste of money, to search for prime numbers or someting similar, quit yer bitchin!
Its really not that bad conidering I have to compile mozilla every time I want to install a gecko browser on FreeBSD. It may take over an hour on a PIII-400 but that more to do with the 128 megs of ram and the fact that being its a laptop and I dont currently have the luxury of having 5 or 6 computers setup in my house to chose between I'm usually doing that in the background while doinging the (write code, compile, test, write more code) cycle on the same machine eating up more ram and CPU.
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Not at all. One of the freedoms the GPL grants is if you modify software you don't have to give anyone those changes. You are not forced to distribute Free Software. If you do give it out it must be GPL and the source must be included. You can read the
The modern BSD license is oftern called public domain with credit. BSD code may be redistributed under any license as long as credit is given to the developers.
The original apple license required modifications to be submitted to apple. The Apple public license was not an approved as a open source license until this clause was removed. Free Software is about freedom. It attempts to mamimize freedom with a philisophy of "you freedom to punch me in the face ends where my face begins." Forceing submission of changes takes away freedom.
Was he by any chance an editor?
I could buy a nice ass wheel chair with 11 Million.
Hope its good old ftp. But your right about ftp not being a yast dependancy, or part of the default install. It took me a while to figure out what the hells wrong with yast.
- Find a fast mirror (got a few good ones in the US).
- Install whatever you think is the bare minimim for you, being sure to include ftp so yast can download additional stuff later, and lynx to start installing Helixcode. Also install X, but if your not installing X your not installing Helixcode. (do not install gnome your gonna use helix stuff.
- After the installation is finished start up X, open an xterm and type xhost +localhost; su root -c "lynx -source http://go-gnome.com", and install helix.
- now you got yourself a system.
if your installing to several systems make a local mirror of the 8.3 dir on ftp.suse.com and enjoy some lightening fast 100MBps network installs. When I buy Suse CD sets I copy the DVD to a server on the network and install/upgrade via ftp/NFS. its quite rare I do a CD or DVD install.OpenBSD: Secure as all hell and more elitest than the rest of you all.
But never judge an OS until you fire it up in bochs and give it a run. I've been playin with ReactOS a free NT clone for a while now and I like it. Definatly not your everyday OS, but its starting o get the GDI and theres plans for a java subsystem. I think it will gain a bit of popularity as the days go by.
So I take it you heard the big old hunk of junk once known as kepler resides in my garage. I'm looking for an ethernet jack and a 220 outlet for it.
2. Should be 5% bigger than the parent star
Would the laws of physics allow this? I suppose you mean at least 5% smaller. Last time I checked the sun was far bigger than any planet.
Where can I purchase this telephone? And let me stamp out the trolls by saying: Image playing quake on a beowulf of these while calling Natalie Portman up and asking her if you can pour grits on her.
We'll still need the admins, to recompile everything when version 2.0 of the resulting Lin-NT-XP with the NT kernel as the core, Subsystems for Dos, Win16, Win32, Linux and Java, GTK and QT libs integrated mozilla browser to replace IE and god knows what the hell else were going to stick in it just cause we can. I personally would just stick to FreeBSD if the NT source were released. There would be to much infighting in the NT camp about directions to go and how to revamp the build system. The Linux camps would take segments of the code and port it all over to linux. However, the FreeBSD camp would refine there NTFS driver with the new source code, perhaps improve ACLs, and port over the good that comes from the NT and Linux People. Besides, do you know how long its going to take for a properly disorganized group to get together and be considered the "official" project leads. If Microsoft did a Mozilla or Watcom thing and provided engineers and project management until a community formed around the code then we would see a truely beautiful OS a year from said happening. There would be a compile without IE option, a side project to make gecko the rendering engine for IE, Built in SSH, X11 and more. You can't just release a tarball of source code into the wild and expect it to evolve, you need some organization.
Well the real prolem with all this is if you die and they freeze you, you get thawed out as a corpse. Once we solve the freezing people properly problem we still have more to do. Although, at the very least all this cooling technology might be useful for hardwae manufacturers.
Well some of them go through O'Hare.
Flash freezing works great for mice and suck, but I don't know of anyone that has successfully done it to large animals. The larger an animal is the longer it is going to retain its heat when immersed in something really cold. Now last time I looked into it, most scientists believed current people freezing methods are not good enough to prevent water from forming crystals. However, If you drop a gerbil in some liquid nitrogen and let it thaw out at room temperature chances are it will unfreeze and walk around.
But the data has skyrocketed, and the transfer rates have also skyrocketed. So caches have increased due to there being more stuff to cache.
Well I'd have to look into standards and such, but perhaps the problem is that in BSD the bash port should have a default prefix of '/'. Perhaps all shells belong there. Then again you have the same problem with perl. Do you do a #!/usr/bin/perl or #!/usr/local/bin/perl? Mabey we all need to get together and rethink the right way to #!.
But that not out of box configuration. Yeah I can take a solaris and add a whole lot of gnu programs to it. I can add zsh, wmaker, wget, gcc, vim and all their friends. for that matter too. I can do the same thing for windows and cygwin too. Were talking out of box configuration though. Granted if you buy a sun you probally can figure out how to install bash, or at least your sysadmin can if your a phb. However, thats not out of box.
Ok but the point is my friends are early adopter type people. They were the first to leave there home PCs on 24/7. Now even my aunt who's a salesman for a shipping company does. Stuff we do tends to drip down to the masses. More and more people are leaving there computer on 24/7. I think the pattern is going to continue until everyone but the I don't have a cell phone crowd does it. At that point people are going to adopt newer clients and protocols that will eventually turn it email.
I never used zsh so I can't comment on that. While I'm not completely against using it in shell scripts, I would never use it for a shell scripts. genmenu, a shell script that generates menus for various window managers uses bash and while all that means for a FreeBSD user such as myself is changing the first line to #!/usr/local/bin/bash, its still annoying. Of course I should probally rewrite the one loop that depends on bash and email it to t developer.
Well how do we stop everyone from doing this. Most of my friends leave aim on all the time. Most of them are engineering students some of which will go on to write software which might be instant messaging clients. Some might propose to management that more features might be added for using it as a non realtime method. I think I'm just an early adopter that implemented these features in a home-grown manner.
Ok first of all I'm joking. I don't own a gun, I've fired .22 rifles and 20 guage shot guns on ocassion and handled a few handguns, mostly .45s, non of them were loaded.
And the point of a mercury tipped bullet, if the front was open and covered by something such as wax that would evaporate upon firing is the mercury would be put inder great pressure upon the slug being fired due to thee air pressure pushing it back. Upon impact the bullet would slow down and the mercury would vaporize due to the temperature increace from the pressure. Due to momentum the exit wound would be huge and the collateral damage would be nerver damage to anyone behind the person.
Wether this really would work I don't know, but I dont have the proper balistics testing lab, or klnowledge of how to hand assemble shutgun rounds to test my idea.
So I guess that fact that I have gaim running on a vnc session set up purely for runnin said gaim session, attemopt to be signed on 99.99% of the time. Only log on from this one client (until I get the time to to write a program to update the chat logs remotely), hardly check my IMs, don't always put up an away message and frequently have voicemail tag like conversations with people ove the course of several days is missing the whole point.
I hate to say it, and you can argue that /bin/sh should be linked to ash and not bash or a port true of the one true bourne, but Linux kicks the shit outta Solaris, the BSDs and I'm sure most unixes I've not tried in terms of default CLI. Bash may be big, it may be bloated, it may be the emacs of shells, but it has the best out of box tab completion and command history.
Sure, if I were setting up a 486 to provide shell access to 500 vt420s I would setup tcsh as the default shell and enable tab completion and command history in an attempt to save a little ram. However, in most situations Bash is well worth the bloat.
For those that think bash is indeed to bloated, just remember, vi was considered bloatware at the time it was first introduced, so unless you use ed on your dual athalon via a serial terminal, because a video card and 14" monitor would be a waste of money, to search for prime numbers or someting similar, quit yer bitchin!
I prefer and 8 gauge with a hollowed steel slug filled with mercury. Just dont shoot it at close range or you'll develop mad hatters disease.
Its really not that bad conidering I have to compile mozilla every time I want to install a gecko browser on FreeBSD. It may take over an hour on a PIII-400 but that more to do with the 128 megs of ram and the fact that being its a laptop and I dont currently have the luxury of having 5 or 6 computers setup in my house to chose between I'm usually doing that in the background while doinging the (write code, compile, test, write more code) cycle on the same machine eating up more ram and CPU.
So in M$ Office the errors are features, while in staroffice/openoffice/gnumeric and the gang their just bugs.