So when you bug Boeing jets and put backdoors into Microsoft Windows, it's all well and good and DEFENDING GLORIOUS FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY because it's your side doing it?
Funny how the Slashdot hivemind is on the wrong side of the discussion yet again, although as usual they were so entirely convinced of their correctness.
So when you guys bug Boeing jets and backdoor Microsoft Windows, this is all well and good, but there might be a backdoor in a Chinese made chip, and it's pitchforks and torches?
As usual the Western hypocrisy reveals itself again. But of course, just like in a sports match, your team has never committed a foul, while everything the other team does is a foul?
The only reason there are negative comments in this thread is because China proposed this, so it must be a nefarious ploy by the Evil Red Menace to destroy America. If this were proposed by the American government all of you would be fainting from excitement.
We will not let this act of naked Western aggression stand without retaliation, and Anonymous is not going to win. They will soon have their own medicine shoved back in their face, and good riddance to bad rubbish.
Sure looks like it here. An Israeli organization is telling the American legal system to crack down, through Twitter, on terrorist organizations which are only minor threats to the US (and in the case of Shabab, not even a threat to Israel).
It's routine for the Americans to insist on other countries to do things for them, but they're now tolerating a Israel telling them to do something for Israel's benefit?
So the great Apple company resorts to patent trolling, through a shell company to obfuscate their intentions. Where is the Slashdot outrage over this? Or does the hivemind still think that Apple can do no evil?
This guy is spouting Republican talking points, saying the program is "creating too much bureaucracy" and "being wasteful government spending". Notice he doesn't actually care about the loss of privacy and rights. If he could contract a private company to strip search everyone and save money on the budget, he'd probably do it. Heck he might even be able to spin it off as "helping the job creators." Just because someone agrees with you an issue doesn't mean he agrees with you for the same reasons nor that you'd like the solutions he'd propose.
Hell, when free elections in Palestine bring Hamas into power, or free elections in Lebanon bring Hezbollah to a parliamentary majority, the US calls them terrorists and imposes economic sanctions. This is just within the last 10 years, the US did this routinely during the Cold War. I wonder what will happen if free elections in Libya bring an Islamist government into power. Perhaps Libya will need to get "freedom" crammed down its throat like Iraq did.
The market will not necessarily support what is good for society, it will only support what is profitable. This company was even given a head start by the government and still couldn't make it. It's very unfortunate that the destructive libertarian argument that the government should stop spending money and let the private sector work it out seemingly has so much traction.
So commerce with China is bad, while selling private information to Israel is OK. Is that it? So because Israel is an "ally", means that selling people's phone numbers and addresses is just fine, and somehow trading with China is selling out to the "evil communists?"
Why don't you just admit that you are only interested in what's good for Israel and not what's good for the US or the rest of the world?
When the Muslim terrorists strike in a Western country, the ranting and raving is about how the "religion of peace" (always used in the sarcastic sense) must be crushed mercilessly and its adherents sent to Guantanamo bay, and countries harboring them must be bombed into oblivion. When the Muslim terrorists (AFGHANISTAN TRAINED, AL-QAEDA AFFILIATED, MIND YOU) strike China, in Xinjiang, the ranting and raving is about the supoposed injustices of the Chinese government and how the terrorists deserve to have their goals fulfilled, never mind that the goal is to establish a Taliban-style Islamic emirate in central Asia.
You claim to be on a war on terror, but it's only a war on terror that goes against Western interests. The Cold War is still on, and the enemy of your enemy is still your friend. Total Western hypocrisy here.
just more American/Western hypocrisy from Slashdot. Typical. The British have done the same thing in their cities, and it's not like America is totally averse to the idea (red light cameras, anyone?) Clearly, it's evil and oppressive just because China does it and China refuses to knuckle under to Western imperialism.
You're denying the validity of this report, which states that a full quarter of hackers are working for the FBI/CIA, and thus proxy agents of the government, which is what Slashdotters routinely accuse of Chinese hackers. But because it's your team does the same act, it's either denied (reports false etc.) or justified as being OK (as in the case of Stuxnet). That's American hypocrisy right there.
The Slashdotters deny, deny, deny, or justify and rationalize that it's just fine. But if China *supposedly* hires hackers to do their bidding, and of which there is as little proof as displayed here, this is worthy of airstrikes apparently. Western hypocrisy on display right here.
Just like the Chinese hack on Google? Oh wait, because it's against Iran, according to Slashdot it's a great stroke for freedom and democracy. Slashdot's Western hypocrisy will quickly show itself once again, and before you say, "but it wasn't America or Israel behind it!!!!!" what proof do you have that the Chinese government was behind the Google hack?
to be a bunch of pro-American hypocrites. If China, Russia, or Iran were doing this to the Americans, you guys would be advocating wiping them off the face of the earth. It's like a sports match. You get all sanctimonious and angry when the other team does it, but when your team does the same thing, it's all good and fine and justified because the other side is a bunch of evil commies, Islamists, or whatever boogeyman you have this year.
I thought only the enemies of America, like the nefarious Chinese communists and the Iranian ayatollahs, did evil things like hire hackers to do their bidding.
Par for the course, the Slashdot crowd hates on China irrationally, and it gets moderated up due to the ridiculous groupthink. What, you need another Soviet Union to blame everything on and which you can reflexively call evil everything that comes out of there? Aren't you still busy hating on the Arabs?
are either denying the obvious/equivocating ridiculously i.e. "this is not confirmation, so we can't take it as fact, even though it's almost certainly true" or flat out justifying the sabotage. If some Chinese hacker group (which would clearly be some shadow arm of the EVIL COMMUNIST PARTY) did this to an American government institution, the masses here would be calling for immediate war against China.
The Western hypocrisy is strong with Slashdot, as it has always been. It loves to get on its soapbox and be sanctimonious when non-allied nations try to defend themselves against Western imperialism, but it's clear that when it's your team doing it, it's all good, just like in a sports match.
I know why. Because Slashdot is full of irrational China-haters.
This post asserts one of the silliest things I've ever heard. Why would we engineer a DDoS to block release of AMERICAN GOVERNMENT documents, which no matter what it says, we can easily explain away by saying it's just American propaganda, because that's exactly what these documents are? State Department communications are American propaganda directed toward other countries essentially. We welcome the release of these documents, because they make the Americans look worse, and thus us look better, and the Americans are taking heavy handed actions against Wikileaks and Assange, which makes them hypocrites if they then try to complain about our actions against say the Falun Gong.
But no, it's always China's fault. China is the new bogeyman. I suppose it makes the simpletons here on Slashdot feel better.
So this means that Wikileaks is an evil organization jeopardizing lives and setting back the cause of freedom and democracy, since that's what the American government been saying? Just like how Osama and the Taliban were freedom fighters against the "evil empire" Soviets and Saddam was a moderate secular leader who was the bulwark against the evil Iranian mullahs back in the 1980's?
Accepting this as truth is Western/American hypocrisy at its finest. As usual, people here will believe something they want to be true, because they hate China and hate the fact that it is no longer an impoverished third-world country but instead is an emerging power capable of competing against the Americans on many fronts, logical consistency be damned.
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LMAO, do you seriously think Romney would be any better?
So when you bug Boeing jets and put backdoors into Microsoft Windows, it's all well and good and DEFENDING GLORIOUS FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY because it's your side doing it?
Funny how the Slashdot hivemind is on the wrong side of the discussion yet again, although as usual they were so entirely convinced of their correctness.
or Brazil is found to be harboring Al-Qaeda and hiding weapons of mass destruction?
about the supposed Chinese hackers? Since they're doing the same thing themselves against people they don't like?
But of course they won't. The West can't help but be sanctimonious and hypocritical.
So when you guys bug Boeing jets and backdoor Microsoft Windows, this is all well and good, but there might be a backdoor in a Chinese made chip, and it's pitchforks and torches?
As usual the Western hypocrisy reveals itself again. But of course, just like in a sports match, your team has never committed a foul, while everything the other team does is a foul?
The only reason there are negative comments in this thread is because China proposed this, so it must be a nefarious ploy by the Evil Red Menace to destroy America. If this were proposed by the American government all of you would be fainting from excitement.
that they can beat our hackers?
We will not let this act of naked Western aggression stand without retaliation, and Anonymous is not going to win. They will soon have their own medicine shoved back in their face, and good riddance to bad rubbish.
Sure looks like it here. An Israeli organization is telling the American legal system to crack down, through Twitter, on terrorist organizations which are only minor threats to the US (and in the case of Shabab, not even a threat to Israel).
It's routine for the Americans to insist on other countries to do things for them, but they're now tolerating a Israel telling them to do something for Israel's benefit?
So the great Apple company resorts to patent trolling, through a shell company to obfuscate their intentions. Where is the Slashdot outrage over this? Or does the hivemind still think that Apple can do no evil?
This guy is spouting Republican talking points, saying the program is "creating too much bureaucracy" and "being wasteful government spending". Notice he doesn't actually care about the loss of privacy and rights. If he could contract a private company to strip search everyone and save money on the budget, he'd probably do it. Heck he might even be able to spin it off as "helping the job creators." Just because someone agrees with you an issue doesn't mean he agrees with you for the same reasons nor that you'd like the solutions he'd propose.
Hell, when free elections in Palestine bring Hamas into power, or free elections in Lebanon bring Hezbollah to a parliamentary majority, the US calls them terrorists and imposes economic sanctions. This is just within the last 10 years, the US did this routinely during the Cold War. I wonder what will happen if free elections in Libya bring an Islamist government into power. Perhaps Libya will need to get "freedom" crammed down its throat like Iraq did.
The market will not necessarily support what is good for society, it will only support what is profitable. This company was even given a head start by the government and still couldn't make it. It's very unfortunate that the destructive libertarian argument that the government should stop spending money and let the private sector work it out seemingly has so much traction.
So commerce with China is bad, while selling private information to Israel is OK. Is that it? So because Israel is an "ally", means that selling people's phone numbers and addresses is just fine, and somehow trading with China is selling out to the "evil communists?"
Why don't you just admit that you are only interested in what's good for Israel and not what's good for the US or the rest of the world?
When the Muslim terrorists strike in a Western country, the ranting and raving is about how the "religion of peace" (always used in the sarcastic sense) must be crushed mercilessly and its adherents sent to Guantanamo bay, and countries harboring them must be bombed into oblivion. When the Muslim terrorists (AFGHANISTAN TRAINED, AL-QAEDA AFFILIATED, MIND YOU) strike China, in Xinjiang, the ranting and raving is about the supoposed injustices of the Chinese government and how the terrorists deserve to have their goals fulfilled, never mind that the goal is to establish a Taliban-style Islamic emirate in central Asia. You claim to be on a war on terror, but it's only a war on terror that goes against Western interests. The Cold War is still on, and the enemy of your enemy is still your friend. Total Western hypocrisy here.
just more American/Western hypocrisy from Slashdot. Typical. The British have done the same thing in their cities, and it's not like America is totally averse to the idea (red light cameras, anyone?) Clearly, it's evil and oppressive just because China does it and China refuses to knuckle under to Western imperialism.
You're denying the validity of this report, which states that a full quarter of hackers are working for the FBI/CIA, and thus proxy agents of the government, which is what Slashdotters routinely accuse of Chinese hackers. But because it's your team does the same act, it's either denied (reports false etc.) or justified as being OK (as in the case of Stuxnet). That's American hypocrisy right there.
The Slashdotters deny, deny, deny, or justify and rationalize that it's just fine. But if China *supposedly* hires hackers to do their bidding, and of which there is as little proof as displayed here, this is worthy of airstrikes apparently. Western hypocrisy on display right here.
Just like the Chinese hack on Google? Oh wait, because it's against Iran, according to Slashdot it's a great stroke for freedom and democracy. Slashdot's Western hypocrisy will quickly show itself once again, and before you say, "but it wasn't America or Israel behind it!!!!!" what proof do you have that the Chinese government was behind the Google hack?
to be a bunch of pro-American hypocrites. If China, Russia, or Iran were doing this to the Americans, you guys would be advocating wiping them off the face of the earth. It's like a sports match. You get all sanctimonious and angry when the other team does it, but when your team does the same thing, it's all good and fine and justified because the other side is a bunch of evil commies, Islamists, or whatever boogeyman you have this year.
I thought only the enemies of America, like the nefarious Chinese communists and the Iranian ayatollahs, did evil things like hire hackers to do their bidding.
Par for the course, the Slashdot crowd hates on China irrationally, and it gets moderated up due to the ridiculous groupthink. What, you need another Soviet Union to blame everything on and which you can reflexively call evil everything that comes out of there? Aren't you still busy hating on the Arabs?
are either denying the obvious/equivocating ridiculously i.e. "this is not confirmation, so we can't take it as fact, even though it's almost certainly true" or flat out justifying the sabotage. If some Chinese hacker group (which would clearly be some shadow arm of the EVIL COMMUNIST PARTY) did this to an American government institution, the masses here would be calling for immediate war against China.
The Western hypocrisy is strong with Slashdot, as it has always been. It loves to get on its soapbox and be sanctimonious when non-allied nations try to defend themselves against Western imperialism, but it's clear that when it's your team doing it, it's all good, just like in a sports match.
I know why. Because Slashdot is full of irrational China-haters.
This post asserts one of the silliest things I've ever heard. Why would we engineer a DDoS to block release of AMERICAN GOVERNMENT documents, which no matter what it says, we can easily explain away by saying it's just American propaganda, because that's exactly what these documents are? State Department communications are American propaganda directed toward other countries essentially. We welcome the release of these documents, because they make the Americans look worse, and thus us look better, and the Americans are taking heavy handed actions against Wikileaks and Assange, which makes them hypocrites if they then try to complain about our actions against say the Falun Gong.
But no, it's always China's fault. China is the new bogeyman. I suppose it makes the simpletons here on Slashdot feel better.
means it's true?
So this means that Wikileaks is an evil organization jeopardizing lives and setting back the cause of freedom and democracy, since that's what the American government been saying? Just like how Osama and the Taliban were freedom fighters against the "evil empire" Soviets and Saddam was a moderate secular leader who was the bulwark against the evil Iranian mullahs back in the 1980's?
Accepting this as truth is Western/American hypocrisy at its finest. As usual, people here will believe something they want to be true, because they hate China and hate the fact that it is no longer an impoverished third-world country but instead is an emerging power capable of competing against the Americans on many fronts, logical consistency be damned.