True, but this story submitted by deezl said "why not encourage free BitTorrent type distribution for their movies?".
And as I read this again from a different perspective, perhaps deezl was calling out the makers of Celsius 41.11 because if you go to their site, no where does it say where or how or even if you can download their movie. Just lists how to get the DVD.
Here's the rest of George Carlin's rant about "protect the children":
Today's kids are way too soft. : : : For one thing, there's too much emphasis on safety and safety equipment: childproof medicine bottles, fireproof pajamas, child restraints, car seats. And helmets! Bicycle, baseball, skateboard, scooter helmets. Kids have to wear helmets now for everything but jerking off. Grown-ups have taken all the fun out of being a kid. : : : What's happened is, these baby boomers, these soft, fruity baby boomers, have raised an entire generation of soft, fruity kids who aren't even allowed hazardous toys, for Chrissakes! What ever happened to natural selection? Survival of the fittest? The kid who swallows too many marbles doesn't grow up to have kids of his own. Simple stuff. Nature knows best!
Another bunch of ignorant bullshit about your children: school uniforms. Bad theory! The idea that if kids wear uniforms to school, it helps keep order. Hey! Don't these schools do enough damage makin' all these children think alike? Now they're gonna get 'em to look alike, too? : : : And it's not even a new idea; I first saw it in old newsreels from the 1930s, but it was hard to understand, because the narration was in German! But the uniforms looked beautiful. And the children did everything they were told and never questioned authority. Gee, I wonder why someone would want to put our children in uniforms. Can't imagine.
And one more item about children: this superstitous nonsense of blaming tobacco companies for kids who smoke. Listem! Kids don't smoke because a camel in sunglasses tells them to. They smoke for the same reasons adults do, because it's an enjoyable activity that relieves anxiety and depression.
And you'd be anxious and depressed too if you had to put up with these pathetic, insecure, yuppie parents who enroll you in college before you've figured out which side of the playpen smells the worst and then fill you with Ritalin to get you in a mood they approve of, and drag you all over town in search of empty, meaningless structure: Little League, Cub Scouts, swimming, soccer, karate, piano, bagpipes, watercolors, witchcraft, glass blowing, and dildo practice. It's absurd. : : : They even have "play dates", for Christ sake! Playing is now done by appointment! But it's true. A lot of these striving, and parents are burning their kids out on structure. I think what every child needs and ought to have every day is two hours of daydreaming. Plain old daydreaming.
Turn off the internet, the CD-ROMS, and the computer games and let them stare at a tree for a couple of hours. Every now and then they actually come up with one of their own ideas.
You want to know how to help your kids? Leave them the fuck alone.
Really, and in fact, they could care less about "the children" and more about imposing their views on others.
But hey, lets take this even further, let's also demand everyone wear helmets everywhere they go...walking, biking, driving a car...I mean, it only makes sense to wear helmets because you never know if you'll slip and hit your head...and of course you'll be better protected in a car accident! Let's push for mandatory helmets for everyone everywhere now! Remember Dr. Atkins? He'd be alive today if he were only wearing his helmet!
Give me a break...
George Carlin said it best:
Something else I'm getting tired of in this country is all this stupid talk I have to listen to about children. That's all you hear about anymore, children: "Help the children, save the children, protect the children." You know what I say? Fuck the children!
They're getting entirely too much attention. And I know what some of you are thinking: " Jesus, he's not going to attack children, is he?" Yes he is! He's going to attack children. And remember, this is Mr. Conductor talking; I know what I'm talking about.
And I also know that all you boring single dads and working moms, who think you're such fucking heros, aren't gonna like this, but somebody's gotta tell you for your own good: your children are overrated and overvalued, and you've turned them into little cult objects. You have a child fetish, and it's not healthy. And don't give me all that weak shit, "Well, I love my children." Fuck you! Everybody loves their children; it doesn't make you special. : : : John Wayne Gacy loved his children. Yes, he did. That's not what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about is this constant, mindless yammering in the media, this neurotic fixation that suggests that somehow everything--everything--has to revolve around the lives of children. Ist's completely out of balance.
Listen, there are a couple of things about kids you have to remember. First of all, they're not all cute. In fact, if you look at 'em real close, most of them are rather unpleasant looking. And a lot of them don't smell too good either. The little ones in particular seem to have a kind of urine and sour-milk combination that I don't care for at all. Stay with me on this folks, the sooner you face it the better off your going to be.
Second, premise: not all chidren are smart and clever. Got that? Kids are like any other group of people: a few winners, a whole lot of losers! This country is filled with loser kids who simply...aren't...going anywhere! And there's nothing you can do about it, folks. Nothing! You can't save them all. You can't do it. You gotta let 'em go; you gotta cut 'em loose; you gotta stop over-protecting them, because your making 'em too soft.
To respond to that idiot anonymous troll earlier, a quick Google search will show quite a few sites and quotes such as:
LIGHTING V'GER - a site about the original Star Trek: The Motion Picture Apogee closed it's doors a couple of years ago, but in 1979 it was barely two years old, having formed when Dykstra, and several other key players from Lucas' Star Wars, remained at the former ILM facility in Van Nuys after Lucas moved north.
Hollywood VFX Master, Richard Edlund, Talks About His Work On The Original Battlestar Galactica At this point, John Dykstra got a call from Glen Larson. Glen had contacted either George Lucas or Gary Kurtz to find out if he and Universal could lease the ILM Van Nuys facility we had used to create the VFX for Star Wars, in order to shoot Battlestar Galactica. And apparently, George agreed to it. So our main team, minus Robby Blalack, signed on to do the Galactica visual effects.
And one more: A Critical History of Computer Graphics and Animation Lucas hired effects expert John Dykstra to head a new production facility, located in old warehouses in Van Nuys, California. After completing Star Wars he relocated ILM to the Bay Area.
Apogee was the FX facility created by John Dykstra, the original Star Wars supervisor. John Dykstra decided not to move to Northern California and opened shop in the old ILM facilities of Van Nuys. There he worked on several projects like Star Trek The Motion Picture, Firefox and Invaders From Mars. In 1993 Apogee closed. John Dykstra continued working as an independent VFX Supervisor and currently works for Imageworks on such projects as Stuart Little and Spider-Man.
All the misinformation in your post makes me question your original assertion that you ever worked in the space balls movie.
I hope others catch you in your lies and mod you down to -5 liar.
Actually, you're very wrong indeed. ILM DID start at the same facilities as Apogee...I know, I was fucking there. Where YOU there? Of course not, course, couldn't prove it either way since you hid behind an anonymous coward post.
Apogee didn't start up shop until AFTER ILM moved north, Dykstra remained behind and went on his own and did Battlestar Galactica.
Hell, you can even look at old pictures of them doing the original Star Wars where they're out in the parking lot shooting some of the Death Star scenes. That was the same parking lot at Apogee!
Sheesh. Also, I was a production assistant, which ment that I took film to the lab...that's it. I didn't work on the film per-se...I was a peon. Want the name and address of the Lab I took the film to also?
I actually worked on the original Space Balls. I was a production assistant at the now defunct Apogee which did the effects for the film.
Apogee was the original ILM near Van Nuys airport, but John Dykstra kept it after ILM moved north. It was cool working there seeing some of the original models of the X-wing in the lobby of Apogee.
OK, don't know if this is a flame or troll or you're just plain ignorant of the facts.
One - Wallace died in 1998, not 1968. He was shot back then, but not killed...paralized.
Two - He was a mainly a democrat.
Three - He was elected Governor of Alabama (as a Democrat) four times
Four - he carried five Southern states, gaining almost enough electoral votes to throw the election to the House of Representatives. He was a candidate of the American Independent Party.
Frankly, Nip/Tuck is a legitimate excuse for missing such nerdy/intellectual public broadcasting Nova fun. Why? Boobies! Hotties! BOOBIES and HOTTIES, MAN!
Meh...it's still on regular cable, which means covered boobs. Boobs are better uncovered than covered.
I don't find this at all in theaters...in fact, it's the opposite for me.
Watching at the theater, the movie has your undivided attention. At HOME is where the movie experience falls short.
I don't have a ton of money, so of course I don't have a home theater so I have to watch everything on a 27" TV...
But watching a movie at home you have:
-people talking openly: wife asking who is that, what happened there, did you hear what happened to so and so down the street...it's even worse when her family is over here to "watch a movie" which includes everything other than actually "watching the movie".
-kids running in and out of the room with various things/problems
-The ability to pause and go to the bathroom...now many people think this is an advantage, but it breaks up the movie experience and cuts into the flow of the story etc etc.
-Phone calls in the middle of the movie.
At a theater I get none of these things. Yes, there are other people there, but when the movie starts, we get so absorbed into the movie that I don't notice the guy slurping his drink, or really anyone talking. Has it happened in the past? Oh sure, you hear a cell phone go off or one or two people whispering/talking a little, but STILL it's not as distracting as all the things I mentioned above when watching a good movie.
I also don't have a short attention span, so I'm not easily distracted by minute and harmless things.
This is a link to the OLD transgaming forums...the ones that don't work. that link is old.
The NEW forums are available to members...is kind of a pain.
Anyway, from what I can gather, it's only a matter between DirectX 9.0b and 9.0c...and it doesn't sound to serious of a problem, though the game isn't working yet.
Though why Transgaming allows the old forums to be read by the general public, then makes you join to read the real forums is kind of stupid. The general public when they want to check on a game only see the old forums and games listing...which doesn't mean squat. If you read the old forums you'd think that World of Warcraft wasn't working with Cedega...but it is!
Lucas Films is overly obsessive over the conditions in the theaters in which Star Wars movies played...
They should have been paying more attention on the quality of the movies themselves! As in story and acting and DIRECTING! Honestly people, Lucas is a hell of a producer, but he REALLY is bad as a director.
Just stick to producing there George...and also, don't worry about what others are parodying around with your movies. It's called "fair use". Also, it was a LIVE performance.
George is worried about his legacy...well, he's killed his legacy himself.
I didn't like the original Sims...I was too busy playing Counterstrike or RTCW or RTCW:Enemy Territory.
But I got this game for my wife and I'm kinda absorbed into it now. It's kinda neat. Certainly better than the original...but it's still basically a computerized dollhouse...but there's nothing wrong with that.
Our Star Wars cup runneth over...and spills to the floor causing a puddle where one could easily slip and get a slight sprain in....well, you get my point.
Let's move on now...isn't it time we all start seeing tons of reviews and screen-shots to the extended Return of the King about now so we'll all be nice and sick of it by the time it's actually released?
Hey Pete Jackson, let's keep a little quiet on that ok? Hype can kill something quicker than anything.
This is a non-problem really. I use Linux every day...it's my OS of choice and I can tell you, I interoperate between kde and gnome programs all the time and don't see anything wrong.
Also, there are not guidelines in regards to ALT-F4...well, just for Windows I guess. ALT-F4 will get you desktop number 4 on my system.
As far as keyboard shortcuts, kde has an option where it mimics the keyboard shorts of different UI's if you wish...or if you wish you can configure them to anything you want...how YOU want your desktop to flow.
But, having said all this, perhaps KDE should work on this a bit. As it stands now, it's NOT what is or isn't included in KDE, it's more of what is turned on or off by default for new users. I think that the defaults could be tweaked better by KDE for a new install, so font-aliasing is turned on by default, then it asks you what keyboard config you wish to use on the outset, feedback on password typing...all these things and more can be tweaked and/or turned on/off for the absolute default newbie startup.
But I tell you, you can NOT please everyone. If you did this or do the suggestions in the original story, people would then complain that the advanced options are too hidden and not enough are turned on.
Everyone complains. Everyone complains on Windows and Macintosh and Linux since day one...just have to find the happy medium.
The producers of "That 70's Show" plans it's own music download service.
Rheem - makers of fine water heaters and air conditioners, plans it's own music download service.
My cousin, brother, both sisters, guy down the street, Old Man Jenkins at the haunted amusement park....all are planning their own music download service.
Slashdot Mirror
True, but this story submitted by deezl said "why not encourage free BitTorrent type distribution for their movies?".
And as I read this again from a different perspective, perhaps deezl was calling out the makers of Celsius 41.11 because if you go to their site, no where does it say where or how or even if you can download their movie. Just lists how to get the DVD.
Yeah, I remember that too. It was even talked about here at slashdot as I recall.
deezl needs to do a little more research before he posts stuff like this. He's calling Moore out when in fact he already said download his movie!
Talk about embarassing for deezl!
Here's the rest of George Carlin's rant about "protect the children":
Today's kids are way too soft. : : : For one thing, there's too much emphasis on safety and safety equipment: childproof medicine bottles, fireproof pajamas, child restraints, car seats. And helmets! Bicycle, baseball, skateboard, scooter helmets. Kids have to wear helmets now for everything but jerking off. Grown-ups have taken all the fun out of being a kid. : : : What's happened is, these baby boomers, these soft, fruity baby boomers, have raised an entire generation of soft, fruity kids who aren't
even allowed hazardous toys, for Chrissakes! What ever happened to natural selection? Survival of the fittest? The kid who swallows too many marbles doesn't grow up to have kids of his own. Simple stuff. Nature knows best!
Another bunch of ignorant bullshit about your children: school uniforms. Bad theory! The idea that if kids wear uniforms to school, it helps keep order. Hey! Don't these schools do enough damage makin' all these children think
alike? Now they're gonna get 'em to look alike, too? : : : And it's not even a new idea; I first saw it in old newsreels from the 1930s, but it was hard to understand, because the narration was in German! But the uniforms looked beautiful. And the children did everything they were told and never questioned authority. Gee, I wonder why someone would want to put our children in uniforms. Can't imagine.
And one more item about children: this superstitous nonsense of blaming tobacco companies for kids who smoke. Listem! Kids don't smoke because a camel in sunglasses tells them to. They smoke for the same reasons adults do, because it's an enjoyable activity that relieves anxiety and depression.
And you'd be anxious and depressed too if you had to put up with these pathetic, insecure, yuppie parents who enroll you in college before you've figured out which side of the playpen smells the worst and then fill you with Ritalin to get you in a mood they approve of, and drag you all over town in search of empty, meaningless structure: Little League, Cub Scouts, swimming, soccer, karate, piano, bagpipes, watercolors, witchcraft, glass blowing, and dildo practice. It's absurd. : : : They even have "play dates", for Christ sake! Playing is now done by appointment! But it's true. A lot of these striving, and parents are burning their kids out on structure. I think what every child needs and ought to have every day is two hours of daydreaming. Plain old daydreaming.
Turn off the internet, the CD-ROMS, and the computer games and let them stare at a tree for a couple of hours. Every now and then they actually come up with one of their own ideas.
You want to know how to help your kids? Leave them the fuck alone.
Thanks George!
Really, and in fact, they could care less about "the children" and more about imposing their views on others.
But hey, lets take this even further, let's also demand everyone wear helmets everywhere they go...walking, biking, driving a car...I mean, it only makes sense to wear helmets because you never know if you'll slip and hit your head...and of course you'll be better protected in a car accident! Let's push for mandatory helmets for everyone everywhere now! Remember Dr. Atkins? He'd be alive today if he were only wearing his helmet!
Give me a break...
George Carlin said it best:
Something else I'm getting tired of in this country is all this stupid talk
I have to listen to about children. That's all you hear about anymore, children: "Help the children, save the children, protect the children." You
know what I say? Fuck the children!
They're getting entirely too much attention. And I know what some of you are thinking: " Jesus, he's not going to attack children, is he?" Yes he is! He's going to attack children. And remember, this is Mr. Conductor talking; I know what I'm talking about.
And I also know that all you boring single dads and working moms, who think you're such fucking heros, aren't gonna like this, but somebody's gotta tell you for your own good: your children are overrated and overvalued, and you've turned them into little cult objects. You have a child fetish, and it's not healthy. And don't give me all that weak shit, "Well, I love my children." Fuck you! Everybody loves their children; it doesn't make you special. : : : John Wayne Gacy loved his children. Yes, he did. That's not what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about is this constant, mindless yammering in the media, this neurotic fixation that suggests that somehow everything--everything--has to revolve around the lives of children. Ist's completely out of balance.
Listen, there are a couple of things about kids you have to remember. First of all, they're not all cute. In fact, if you look at 'em real close, most of them are rather unpleasant looking. And a lot of them don't smell too good either. The little ones in particular seem to have a kind of urine and sour-milk combination that I don't care for at all. Stay with me on this folks, the sooner you face it the better off your going to be.
Second, premise: not all chidren are smart and clever. Got that? Kids are like any other group of people: a few winners, a whole lot of losers! This country is filled with loser kids who simply...aren't...going anywhere! And there's nothing you can do about it, folks. Nothing! You can't save them all. You can't do it. You gotta let 'em go; you gotta cut 'em loose; you gotta stop over-protecting them, because your making 'em too soft.
Nuff said...
To respond to that idiot anonymous troll earlier, a quick Google search will show quite a few sites and quotes such as:
LIGHTING V'GER - a site about the original Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Apogee closed it's doors a couple of years ago, but in 1979 it was barely two years old, having formed when Dykstra, and several other key players from Lucas' Star Wars, remained at the former ILM facility in Van Nuys after Lucas moved north.
Hollywood VFX Master, Richard Edlund, Talks About His Work On The Original Battlestar Galactica
At this point, John Dykstra got a call from Glen Larson. Glen had contacted either George Lucas or Gary Kurtz to find out if he and Universal could lease the ILM Van Nuys facility we had used to create the VFX for Star Wars, in order to shoot Battlestar Galactica. And apparently, George agreed to it. So our main team, minus Robby Blalack, signed on to do the Galactica visual effects.
And one more:
A Critical History of Computer Graphics and Animation
Lucas hired effects expert John Dykstra to head a new production facility, located in old warehouses in Van Nuys, California. After completing Star Wars he relocated ILM to the Bay Area.
Apogee was the FX facility created by John Dykstra, the original Star Wars supervisor. John Dykstra decided not to move to Northern California and opened shop in the old ILM facilities of Van Nuys. There he worked on several projects like Star Trek The Motion Picture, Firefox and Invaders From Mars. In 1993 Apogee closed. John Dykstra continued working as an independent VFX Supervisor and currently works for Imageworks on such projects as Stuart Little and Spider-Man.
Ok class...any questions?
All the misinformation in your post makes me question your original assertion that you ever worked in the space balls movie.
I hope others catch you in your lies and mod you down to -5 liar.
Actually, you're very wrong indeed. ILM DID start at the same facilities as Apogee...I know, I was fucking there. Where YOU there? Of course not, course, couldn't prove it either way since you hid behind an anonymous coward post.
Apogee didn't start up shop until AFTER ILM moved north, Dykstra remained behind and went on his own and did Battlestar Galactica.
Hell, you can even look at old pictures of them doing the original Star Wars where they're out in the parking lot shooting some of the Death Star scenes. That was the same parking lot at Apogee!
Sheesh. Also, I was a production assistant, which ment that I took film to the lab...that's it. I didn't work on the film per-se...I was a peon. Want the name and address of the Lab I took the film to also?
I actually worked on the original Space Balls. I was a production assistant at the now defunct Apogee which did the effects for the film.
Apogee was the original ILM near Van Nuys airport, but John Dykstra kept it after ILM moved north. It was cool working there seeing some of the original models of the X-wing in the lobby of Apogee.
But this was way before CGI came to the scene.
Imagine a Teowulf Tluster of these!
OK, don't know if this is a flame or troll or you're just plain ignorant of the facts.
One - Wallace died in 1998, not 1968. He was shot back then, but not killed...paralized.
Two - He was a mainly a democrat.
Three - He was elected Governor of Alabama (as a Democrat) four times
Four - he carried five Southern states, gaining almost enough electoral votes to throw the election to the House of Representatives. He was a candidate of the American Independent Party.
Frankly, Nip/Tuck is a legitimate excuse for missing such nerdy/intellectual public broadcasting Nova fun. Why? Boobies! Hotties! BOOBIES and HOTTIES, MAN!
Meh...it's still on regular cable, which means covered boobs. Boobs are better uncovered than covered.
But hey, that's just my opinion.
really, the description of this series sounds like it was lifted straight off of the Cosmos description.
But I'll certainly tune in! Sounds great.
Porn stars and wanna-be's rejoice
I get the "wanna-be's" reference I guess...but porn stars? Why does the poster single out porn stars to rejoice?
I don't find this at all in theaters...in fact, it's the opposite for me.
Watching at the theater, the movie has your undivided attention. At HOME is where the movie experience falls short.
I don't have a ton of money, so of course I don't have a home theater so I have to watch everything on a 27" TV...
But watching a movie at home you have:
-people talking openly: wife asking who is that, what happened there, did you hear what happened to so and so down the street...it's even worse when her family is over here to "watch a movie" which includes everything other than actually "watching the movie".
-kids running in and out of the room with various things/problems
-The ability to pause and go to the bathroom...now many people think this is an advantage, but it breaks up the movie experience and cuts into the flow of the story etc etc.
-Phone calls in the middle of the movie.
At a theater I get none of these things. Yes, there are other people there, but when the movie starts, we get so absorbed into the movie that I don't notice the guy slurping his drink, or really anyone talking. Has it happened in the past? Oh sure, you hear a cell phone go off or one or two people whispering/talking a little, but STILL it's not as distracting as all the things I mentioned above when watching a good movie.
I also don't have a short attention span, so I'm not easily distracted by minute and harmless things.
This is a link to the OLD transgaming forums...the ones that don't work. that link is old.
The NEW forums are available to members...is kind of a pain.
Anyway, from what I can gather, it's only a matter between DirectX 9.0b and 9.0c...and it doesn't sound to serious of a problem, though the game isn't working yet.
Though why Transgaming allows the old forums to be read by the general public, then makes you join to read the real forums is kind of stupid. The general public when they want to check on a game only see the old forums and games listing...which doesn't mean squat. If you read the old forums you'd think that World of Warcraft wasn't working with Cedega...but it is!
Or "Your Rights...On The Line"
Lucas Films is overly obsessive over the conditions in the theaters in which Star Wars movies played...
They should have been paying more attention on the quality of the movies themselves! As in story and acting and DIRECTING! Honestly people, Lucas is a hell of a producer, but he REALLY is bad as a director.
Just stick to producing there George...and also, don't worry about what others are parodying around with your movies. It's called "fair use". Also, it was a LIVE performance.
George is worried about his legacy...well, he's killed his legacy himself.
I didn't like the original Sims...I was too busy playing Counterstrike or RTCW or RTCW:Enemy Territory.
But I got this game for my wife and I'm kinda absorbed into it now. It's kinda neat. Certainly better than the original...but it's still basically a computerized dollhouse...but there's nothing wrong with that.
When it does, it will be the closest any known object of this size (3 miles) has passed near Earth in this century.
Wow! You mean to tell me it's the largest object to pass near here in over 3 years!!!
OK, one of those things that sounds impressive, then when one thinks a little, isn't all that big a deal...
Were it that simple...can't turn off everyone talking about it around me. I don't have TV so at least not getting hit with it on there.
I'm talking about everywhere. Not just Slashdot. I like the movies, don't get me wrong...but come on.
Our Star Wars cup runneth over...and spills to the floor causing a puddle where one could easily slip and get a slight sprain in....well, you get my point.
Let's move on now...isn't it time we all start seeing tons of reviews and screen-shots to the extended Return of the King about now so we'll all be nice and sick of it by the time it's actually released?
Hey Pete Jackson, let's keep a little quiet on that ok? Hype can kill something quicker than anything.
Nuff said...
After this past month of hurricanes down there, I think I'll cross Florida off my "gotta move there" list.
This is a non-problem really. I use Linux every day...it's my OS of choice and I can tell you, I interoperate between kde and gnome programs all the time and don't see anything wrong.
Also, there are not guidelines in regards to ALT-F4...well, just for Windows I guess. ALT-F4 will get you desktop number 4 on my system.
As far as keyboard shortcuts, kde has an option where it mimics the keyboard shorts of different UI's if you wish...or if you wish you can configure them to anything you want...how YOU want your desktop to flow.
But, having said all this, perhaps KDE should work on this a bit. As it stands now, it's NOT what is or isn't included in KDE, it's more of what is turned on or off by default for new users. I think that the defaults could be tweaked better by KDE for a new install, so font-aliasing is turned on by default, then it asks you what keyboard config you wish to use on the outset, feedback on password typing...all these things and more can be tweaked and/or turned on/off for the absolute default newbie startup.
But I tell you, you can NOT please everyone. If you did this or do the suggestions in the original story, people would then complain that the advanced options are too hidden and not enough are turned on.
Everyone complains. Everyone complains on Windows and Macintosh and Linux since day one...just have to find the happy medium.
There is nothing wrong with making a copy of a CD and giving it to a friend.
There is nothing wrong with making a copy of a TV show to give to a friend.
If you think otherwise, then I'd have to question your entire sense of right and wrong.
Morally wrong to make a copy for a friend. No, I don't think it's morally wrong. Legally wrong is another matter though.
It's a question of numbers I suspect. If you buy a CD and make a copy for like 3 or 4 friends, no...I don't see the police knocking down your door.
Now, making 10,000 copies and giving them away to 10,000 friends...they may have something to say about that. I could be wrong.
Slashdot plans it's own music download service.
Gentoo plans it's own music download service.
The producers of "That 70's Show" plans it's own music download service.
Rheem - makers of fine water heaters and air conditioners, plans it's own music download service.
My cousin, brother, both sisters, guy down the street, Old Man Jenkins at the haunted amusement park....all are planning their own music download service.
Um...that came with my wife's Gateway machine. It's not like we copied some "l33t" CD copy program hack. It fricken CAME with the machine!
What up? Then they list a patch that will bypass it anyway? What up? Why did they even include it in the first place?
Again, what up?