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Class Act Dynamo writes "CNN does a story on some of the finer points of making the Star Wars flicks. I like the part where Mark Hamill discusses the theoretical logistics of employing janitorial staff for the entire Death Star. Enjoy."
Randal: So they build another Death Star, right?
Dante: Yeah.
Randal: Now the first one they built was completed and fully operational before the Rebels destroyed it.
Dante: Luke blew it up. Give credit where it's due.
Randal:And the second one was still being built when they blew it up.
Dante: Compliments of Lando Calrissian.
Randal: Something just never sat right with me the second time they destroyed it. I could never put my finger on it-something just wasn't right.
Dante: And you figured it out?
Randal: Well, the thing is, the first Death Star was manned by the Imperial army-storm troopers, dignitaries- the only people onboard were Imperials.
Dante: Basically.
Randal: So when they blew it up, no prob. Evil is punished.
Dante: And the second time around...?
Randal: The second time around, it wasn't even finished yet. They were still under construction.
Dante: So?
Randal: A construction job of that magnitude would require a helluva lot more manpower than the Imperial army had to offer. I'll bet there were independent contractors working on that thing: plumbers, aluminum siders, roofers.
Dante: Not just Imperials, is what you're getting at.
Randal: Exactly. In order to get it built quickly and quietly they'd hire anybody who could do the job. Do you think the average storm trooper knows how to install a toilet main? All they know is killing and white uniforms.
Dante: All right, so even if independent contractors are working on the Death Star, why are you uneasy with its destruction?
Randal: All those innocent contractors hired to do a job were killed- casualties of a war they had nothing to do with. (notices Dante's confusion) All right, look-you're a roofer, and some juicy government contract comes your way; you got the wife and kids and the two-story in suburbia-this is a government contract, which means all sorts of benefits. All of a sudden these left-wing militants blast you with lasers and wipe out everyone within a three-mile radius. You didn't ask for that. You have no personal politics. You're just trying to scrape out a living.
(The Blue-Collar Man (Thomas Burke) joins them.)
Blue-Collar Man: Excuse me. I don't mean to interrupt, but what were you talking about?
Randal: The ending of Return of the Jedi.
Dante: My friend is trying to convince me that any contractors working on the uncompleted Death Star were innocent victims when the space station was destroyed by the rebels.
Blue-Collar Man: Well, I'm a contractor myself. I'm a roofer... (digs into pocket and produces business card) Dunn and Reddy Home Improvements. And speaking as a roofer, I can say that a roofer's personal politics come heavily into play when choosing jobs.
Randal: Like when?
Blue-Collar Man: Three months ago I was offered a job up in the hills. A beautiful house with tons of property. It was a simple reshingling job, but I was told that if it was finished within a day, my price would be doubled. Then I realized whose house it was.
Dante: Whose house was it?
Blue-Collar Man: Dominick Bambino's.
Randal: "Babyface" Bambino? The gangster?
Blue-Collar Man: The same. The money was right, but the risk was too big. I knew who he was, and based on that, I passed the job on to a friend of mine.
Dante: Based on personal politics.
Blue-Collar Man: Right. And that week, the Foresci family put a hit on Babyface's house. My friend was shot and killed. He wasn't even finished shingling.
Randal: No way!
Blue-Collar Man: (paying for coffee) I'm alive because I knew there were risks involved taking on that particular client. My friend wasn't so lucky. (pauses to reflect) You know, any contractor willing to work on that Death Star knew the risks. If they were killed, it was their own fault. A roofer listens to this... (taps his heart) not his wallet.
"theoretical logistics of employing janitorial staff"
I'm sure this is just one of the problems HR staff struggle with every day. Or is he implying that janitorial staff are stupid and unable to follow instructions?
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So that's what he's doing these days...
They pay the janitors cheaply so they can afford the movie. Back in the 80's. Its a shame that the movies now cost 100 times more and the labor cost is like 3 times more. But better spending on the movies for better cgi. Go star wars!!!
This isn't the first post you're looking for...
"I like the part where Mark Hamill discusses the theoretical logistics of employing janitorial staff for the entire Death Star. Enjoy."
Well, similar discussions have been had before (http://imdb.com/title/tt0109445/). Please, will someone think of the contract workers?!??!!
Luke just said that Chewbacca is a monkey, not a Wookie. That makes it cannon! Oh man, I'm gonna have to go rewrite my fanfic, now that I know he was born on Earth and not on Kashyyyk.
As Johnnie Cochran once said, "If Chewbacca is a monkey, you must acquit!"
Mark: "Hey! I'm not just another pretty face!"
Janatorial staff? I thought that's why they invented droids.
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Our Star Wars cup runneth over...and spills to the floor causing a puddle where one could easily slip and get a slight sprain in....well, you get my point.
Let's move on now...isn't it time we all start seeing tons of reviews and screen-shots to the extended Return of the King about now so we'll all be nice and sick of it by the time it's actually released?
Hey Pete Jackson, let's keep a little quiet on that ok? Hype can kill something quicker than anything.
Nuff said...
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Didn't I see this story with a Carrie Fisher title like, two days ago?
All I know is that there are people we all know (generally male) who claim to have a large wookie, but when the time of truth comes it ends up looking like Yoda, small stout and green. Let's see if the not so hidden meanings sneek past the moderators!
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I didn't know when Star Wars was being released. I hadn't been paying attention. I know, I know - I'm a bad geek.
:)
As it turns out, my lack of observance didn't matter at all - I'm a bit oversaturated on news and so I tend to read CNN fairly frequently throughout the day. I guessed something was up after two seperate articles on Lucas (and THX1138) showed up, followed by three more on Star Wars (quote heavy thanks to interviews with Mark Hamill), all posted on the main page and all within a twenty-four hour period.
I've been swimming in Star Wars news.
While I don't normally consider this a bad thing it's interesting to see how heavily the tail is wagging the rest of the dog, with respect to CNN; I don't know if they're being paid to be a corporate shill, or if their tech department doing website updates has a strong love of this movie -- whatever the case, it's had better coverage than Iraq this week.
Now we can all cross the phrase "naked wookie" off the list of possible GoogleWhacks, though it might be interesting to see the GoogleAds served op to match this phrase in a few days.
for the documentary on the making of the other three movies, it's amazing what had to be done to get these things made. Say what you want abotu Lucas' judgement on recent things, he had the brains and the stones to get star wars done - In some ways it's as compelling a story as any of the films. And as the man says, iit has the added advantage of being true.
;-) And can you find the translucent x-wings flying through each other?
And for the trailers - they are ruly insufferable - hard to believe anyone went to see ANH on the strength of the trailer - the ROTJ trailer is just tolerable by today's standards,
Also - did I miss something? Wasnt the piece on VH1 last week - with Kevin Smith and lots of others also supposed to be on the DVD set?
Speaking of minutiae, step thru the draw between Greedo and Han
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Having listened to the DVD commentaries for all currently released Star Wars films I have to ask - does anyone else think that the sound guy spends WAY too much time talking?
Lucas has all these cool little insights, but when the sound guy gets started (and boy can he get started) he's still going five minutes later. This isn't just in Phantom Menace and AoTC, but in all of them! I was hoping for some cool insight into some obscure aspect of the films and this guy is going on about how he got to hold the boom mike one day!
I wish they'd also varied the commentary cast a little. I think in every commentary of the original trilogy Carrie Fisher made some comment about how she worried about George Lucas thinking she was fat. Mark Hamill and Anthony Daniels would have made great additions to the commentary teams. A pity that they only used Fisher.
it's 'minutiae' not 'minutae'
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Quote: As the Skywalker actor put it: "How can you be so serious on a film where you are dodging explosions and running away with Sir Alec Guinness on this side and an eight-foot monkey on this side, and the eight-foot monkey is the one flying the spaceship?" Yeah, monkeys cn fly. And we're taking this too serious. Why do so many people have to overanalyze everything and can't just enjoy a movie?
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i wanna hear harrison ford tell me who shoots first :p
Je-heee-zuz H. Christ.
This was a mediocre story which used advanced techniques for about two years and was quickly eclipsed by much better stories using the same and better techniques.
SW is much like Flash Gordon. Put it on the shelf and relive it with a buzz on every five years or so.
Elsewise, get a life, get a life, get a life.
I have never in my life heard the word "minutiae" used where it didn't sound contrived. And I haven't ever heard the word "minutae" in my life, period ("minutia" is the singular and "minutiae" is the plural; "minutae" is not a word).
The recent spate of kidnappings in Iraq represent a horrific, real-world example of the situation laid out by the parent. A number of friends/associates of mine have been offered exceptionally high paying jobs in Iraq and Afghanistan. None of them have accepted as they regard the risk as too great, but I have found myself wondering:
* The pay is high because the risk is high - anybody who takes on such a job must realise this. Is it thus their fault if they are harmed/kidnapped/killed?
* Also, since they are working for/in-the-name-of people whom some Iraq's would regard as the enemy (they do this knowingly) and since by mutual admission of both sides, this is a war - are they legitimate targets?
I would like to point out that I am referring to people working for western corporations, rather than people performing aid work - the fact medecins sans frontiers and aid workers are being targeted is in my opinion, one of the saddest aspects of this conflict.
That's why R2-D2 is shaped like a trash can.
Palpadine is Yoda :-)
... there's a bit more credence than if undredentialed fans just gushed for an hour. Granted this is promotional material, and Lucas had this made, but when Ridley Scott and James Cameron can tell you why this opened their minds to doing what they have done so well, you tend to listen. Especially when they're referring to a guy who bucked the system, paid thru the nose to defy the DGA, then eventually quit the DGA and MPAA to retain creative control. He could have pulled an Alan Smithee.
Again - it's less science fiction, more space opera. Not much in the way of history-changing technology or advanced science uncovering deep truth and human potential. OK , there may be a little of it, but it's secondary to the plot and drama and spectacle.
In truth, look at the state of science fiction before Star Wars - you had story or realism, but rarely both, and you forgave the missing one. But you still missed it. 2001, Silent Running were two popular exceptions. Star Trek had passable story, cheesy realism, but it was all we had. This had both.
Ditto the state of computer graphics - like Edison, who didn't invent the light bulb, but did invent the electric *company* - Lucas didn't invent CG but likely invented the CG *shop* as we know it today. And that has changed filmmakiing in a deeper way than we usually realize. The Terminal - a movie about a guy in a couple of rooms - had a visual effects department and hired CafeFx - Ok they did the outdoor parts - but today you don't need to move an entire production company made of meat across the country to shoot 30 seconds of film. You pick up the phone and get the bits moving. To paraphrase Nicholas Negroponte, the movement of bits is easier than asses.
For everyone under the age of 27, Star Wars always existed, like electricity or clouds. Under 37, probably also true if they started paying attention to movies about age 10... and by age 37 you've covered more than half the people in the US anyway... so they're not far off the mark for most people. And that's only increasing.
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Clearly Chewbacca needed a nice Hawaiian print pair of bermuda shorts. :-) Or maybe some dockers...
Leia: "Could somebody get this walking carpet out of my way... Hey, nice pants." ;-)
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I don't know what scares me more: that someone would know this, or that it gets modded "+4 insightful"...
If you press R2s red button his top pops open and that's where you drop your trash. The Blue button compacts it.
..........FULL STOP.
Dont they have a right to life?
You insensitive clod!
You will live in your mother's basement. You will never kiss a girl. The only girls you will ever see will be prOn on the internet. You will have no outlet but playing with your own light saber.
Don't cross over to the dork side.
How ya like dat?
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THANK GOD!!!
Not to bring down what is a lighthearted conversation, but the discussion of killing contractors is actually relevant right now. The guerillas are actively targeting the reconstruction crews in Iraq. They view them in the same light that they view the armed forces. Now that we sit on the Empire's side of the whole contractor debate, do we view the death of the contractor's as any more or less tragic then the death of the soldiers?
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CORUSCANT-Presiding over a memorial service commemorating the victims
of the attack on the Death Star, the Emperor declared that while
recent victories over the Rebel Alliance were "encouraging, the War on
Terror is not over yet." "We will continue to fight these terrorists,
and the rogue governments who harbor them, until the universe is safe,
once and for all, and the security of the Neo-New Cosmic Order
ensured."
It was one year ago today that the Death Star, perhaps the
greatest symbol of the Empire's might, was destroyed in an attack by
fanatic Rebels, who used small, single-person crafts to infiltrate
seemingly impenetrable defenses. Thousands of mourners were on hand
to remember and pay tribute to the victims and their families. "We
lost our innocence that day," reflected one mourner. "I guess we
thought we were immune from the kind of violence that happens in other
galaxies. We were wrong." "I lost hundreds of buddies that day," said
one teary-eyed Stormtrooper. "Guys whose only crime was trying make
the Universe a safer place."
Although the day was colored by sadness,
the mourners found some relief in the news of a decisive victory over
the Rebels. In an attack led by Darth Vader, Empire forces were able
to rout hundreds of Rebels from a network of caves underneath the
surface of the planet Hoth. "We're not sure we got them all," says a
Vader spokesman. "There are a lot of places to hide in those
caves. But we've delivered a powerful blow to the terrorist's
infrastructure, that's for sure. Today, the Empire has struck back."
Initial reports are unclear as to the fate of Luke Skywalker, a hero
among the Rebels, who is rumored to have delivered the fatal blow to
the Death Star. Skywalker, a former desert-dweller from the planet
Tattooine, became a part of the Rebellion after family members were
killed. Skywalker was trained by a militant wing of the Rebels, known
as "Jedi Knights." Fanatical in their religious beliefs, the Jedi
Knights claim to derive their power from the mystical "Force." It's
believed that Skywalker was specifically trained by infamous terrorist
O bin Wankanobi.
Wankanobi, occasionally called "Ben" and easily
recognized by his bearded visage and long, flowing robes, achieved
near-martyr status among the Rebels after his death last year during a
spy mission. His more fervent followers believe that Wankanobi lives
on within them today, some even claiming to hear his voice during
times of duress.
The attack on the Death Star came shortly after the
Empire's destruction of Alderstaan, a planet whose government was
known to harbor terrorists. Responding to criticism over the total
annihilation of the planet, Vader stated, "There is no middle ground
in the War on Terror. Those who harbor terrorists are terrorists
themselves. Alderaan was issued ample warning. The fight for
continuing Freedom is often burdened by terrible cost." The cost of
this war can still be seen today in the continuing efforts to build a
coalition government on Tattooine. Longstanding animosities among the
planets various ethnic groups, including the Jawas, Tusken Raiders and
scattered human settlers, have been an impediment to the peace
process. The Empire continues to maintain a small peace keeping force
until a provisional government is finally in place.
Much of the
difficulty in fighting the Rebel forces stems from their lack of a
central organizing structure. "They don't play by the traditional
rules of war," complained one spokesman. "They come in all shapes and
sizes, united only by their single-minded desire to destroy the Empire
before it destroys them." The Emperor closed his comments today by
stating that "the cowardly attack n the Death Star left a deep scar on
the Empire. However, we will not stop fighting until every last
evildoer has been brought to justice." He paused for several moments,
wiping away a tear and then added with determination, "We will never
forget." "I wish we could"
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* The Death Star plans were secret, but rebels managed to obtain them anyway.
* Windows is closed source, but people keep managing to steal bits of code anyway.
* The Empire was confident that The Death Star was secure and couldn't be compromised.
* Microsoft is confident that Windows is secure and cannot be compromised.
* Occassionally, rebellious hackers stumble across Windows vulnerabilities that nobody noticed before or thought was important.
* The rebels discovered a vulnerability into the Death Star that nobody noticed before or thought was important.
* Windows slowly positions itself to wipe out the competition.
* The Death Star slowly positions itself to wipe out the competition.
* Microsoft analyses virus attacks and discovers that there is some danger... albeit too late.
* The Empire analyzed the rebel attack and discovered that there was some danger... albeit too late.
* Script kiddies sometimes take devastatingly accurate shots at these backdoors and weaknesses.
* Luke Skywalker took a devastatingly accurate shot at the Death Star's exhaust port.
* Microsoft is attempting to rebuild Windows from the ground up, promising to make it better than before although it looks pretty much the same.
* The Empire tried to rebuild The Death Star from the ground up, promising to make it better than before although it looks pretty much the same.
Therefore... we can conclude the following:
* Luke Skywalker is a script kiddie.
* The Apple switcher campaign should feature Harrison Ford shouting, "Great shot kid, that was one in a million! Let's blow this thing so we can go home!"
* When Windows explodes... oooohhh... pretty.
* Hackers should have medals presented to them by Carrie Fisher.
* Bill Gates is Linus Torvald's father.
* And finally: Microsoft should not put too much faith in this technological terror they've constructed... the ability to destroy the competition is insignificant next to the power of open source.
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Good work. This is a classic.
Too bad you got a troll mod by some fanatical right-wing fascist pig-dog. But you can't print something brilliant like this without taking some shit.
too true
Hey, this is slightly off subject, but last night I was watching the new Star Wars DVD and during the scene where Luke and Han Solo were at the gunners station in the millenium falcon shooting at tie fighters (I believe it's after they escape the death star and obi wan's killed), one of the tie's flys by and has a GREEN FUCKING BOX around it! Looks like someone at ILM didn't clean that up! Anyone else get this problem??
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Have you ever thought of the type of people that would be drawn to work as a contractor in a lawless country?
I'm sure there are some good samaritins that are in Iraq working as contractors who are doing it for the warm fuzzy feeling they get. But there are probably others who are attracted to the 'Wild West' atmosphere there.
I lived in Cambodia for a few years and there were still a few people hanging around from the more lawless days there. They were typically men in there 40's with a family back home that wouldn't speak to them and they came to Cambodia for some 'excitement'.
I bet you in a few years they will see that the AIDS rate in Iraq went through the roof after all these contractors with their big bucks and a death wish started to sample the wares of the local prostitutes. I've talk to a few of the guys in Cambodia that would have unprotected sex with prostitues on a daily basis. They could care less if they got AIDS and died.
Involvement with Iraq also gives these guys instant respect and honor. It's a last ditch effort to do something with their lives.
The tragic death of innocent Contractors? It's not tragic and they aren't innocent.
(Yeah, yeah, off-topic but you've got to respond when someone asks that kind of question.)
The US occupiers in post-WWII weren't calling in air strikes on cities and killing innocent men, women and children in the process. If you're American, you hear about every US soldier that dies but how often do you hear about Iraqi deaths at American hands?
According to some estimates, this war has killed over 25,000 Iraqi civilians so far. Note, those are estimates, because nobody's been keeping an official count of Iraqi dead probably because - and this is the honest truth that most politicians wouldn't admit - most people in positions of responsibility don't give a shit.
Now, answer honestly, if you're an average Joe, and your wife and kids are killed in by an American air strike that flattens you home and you neighbourhood, just how hurt, how frustrated and how angry are you going to feel? And what are you more likely to do: take it lying down or want to fight back.
300 Iraqis civilians are dying every week as a result of the ongoing fighting. That's 300 people per week in a country with less than 10 percent of America's population. In other words, that's the Iraqi equivalent of a September 11th every damn week.
Now do you get an idea of why the country is so fucked up?
Did I mention that the war's illegal? That there never were WMDs? That there never was any link between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's regime? That September 11th had nothing to do with Iraq? Etc, etc.
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Luke just said that Chewbacca is a monkey, not a Wookie. That makes it cannon!
Or "canon", even.
Freedom: "I won't!"
I missed the part where the empire deliberately executed a complete planet full of people.
Oh wait, sorry. That's not terrorism. That's just sexy, charasmatic people doin' their thang.
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The first or the second? The argument was regarding the Death Star in Return of the Jedi. I didn't see any giant insect creatures in that film.
Why do I overanalyse films? Because I am hoping to see the film that has been sold to me, not what I actually get. I refrained from analysing 'Dodgeball' because it was sold to me as a bit of fun. Sell me something as 'excitement and edge-of-the-seat suspense' and I will bitch about why I wasn't excited and slouched in my seat.
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Then you can say it was a bad movie... no need to think about the janitorial staff or that maybe the director had a bad breakfast and the main actor smiled a little too much, ruining the whole film.
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Might want to actually READ the post then. What you mentioned is in there.
They're not a 'hive mind', they just have a 'hive mentality'. The difference is, they're individuals, but their insect nature makes it basically impossible for them to function outside the hive. They get scared, kinda like super agoraphobia. This is why they make such good workers, you can treat them as bad as you want and they'll take it from fear of being kicked out of the hive.
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The Japanese surrendered and didn't put up a fight with the occupying forces because their Emperor told them to do so against the wishes of the military government and at the own risk of his own life I might add.
The second reason for the lack of resistance was the fact the US government let Japan keep it's Emperor which would have otherwise led to "to the last person" type of battle which the US wanted to avoid even with the Bomb.
Germany on the otherhand had the Werewolf units which targeted US Forces during the occupation, but only lasted for a while. Mostly because the average West German was seeing the US as a saviour from Soviet Occupation.
I bent my Wookiee!
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I can tell you that as a prior member of the military, there aren't any janitorial staff to worry about. When our shift on watch was over, it was our job to clean up a designated area, including possibly stripping and waxing the floors. Soldiers and [Imperial] Sailors are taught more than just how to steer a ship and fire a gun. We're taught a certain amount of self-maintainance as well.
Now the contractors working on the second death star? I agree with the roofer in the conversation with Dante. They knew they were working for the government and that the government had enemies (the rebels). They should make sure their life insurance is paid up (and doesn't have a combat zone clause, as so many do) before they start such a job, if they're truly taking it to take care of the family.
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Re: Name change
Suggest we call the new battle station "The Hospital Star".
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The only "control" Bush wanted (in theory) (as explained to the American public) was to control the threat that Iraq posed to USA, mainly "controlling" it by eliminating it. That is, finding and destroying all the ICBMs and their associated nuclear warheads. Now that the mission has been accomplished, further "control" isn't really something that is useful to pursue.