I would recommend they go ahead and test the goop in the shuttle bay and even paint it and see how it does in the vacuumn and exposed to sunlight for a day. Then they can determine if the goop has a good chance of sticking. If they are happy with it, then apply the goop carefully, let it set. Then paint it, let it set. Then inspect one last time and come home.
I'm worried they are still playing Russian roulette with the space shuttle. "Well, it didn't burn up/blow up that time. It must be OK."
I knew one of the early developers who worked on it and the amazing thing about ClarisWorks was that in the Mac market it destroyed the market for Microsoft Works. No small feat.
Why would someone wanting to hide a salami be rated troll? What if you had a vegan friend coming over to visit and couldn't stand the sight of meat and you had a salami laying on the counter. Wouldn't you want to hide it? Possibly in that box holding the big sausage pizza you ordered.
So what happened to all that optical fiber that was laid but unused during the dot com era? Did it finally get used? Every company wants to emulate DeBeers and create artificial scarcity, so they can jack up the price. If spam were ever gotten under control I would imagine that there would be no need to increase bandwidth.
Yet another troll story. Clearly brain parasites, possibly of alien origin, have infected CmdrTaco's brain. I can see no other reasonable explanation for all the stories on Roswell and perpetual motion machines of late on Slashdot. I wish we could Digg this story down.
It doesn't belong under science. Not even close. Is there a pseudoscience category?
I must have struck a nerve to be troll rated. I was shooting for funny. I guess some slashdotters have no sense of humor. I'm not sure what made the troll rating: saying slashdot was worse than digg? saying the perpetual motion machine runs on santorum? or that they got the plans for the ppm from the deathbed Roswell confession?
Wasn't there something in that Roswell deathbed confession about a perpetual motion machine?
Did someone at the slashdot story submission approval have a brainfart? Why are they approving bullshit stories like the perpetual motion machines and Roswell? Somebody must feel they have to compete with Digg.
then I imagine your life would be rather difficult when it comes to intimacy and trust
You just love insulting people, don't you. Well, I do too. We know very little about each other and although I could make a great many assumptions about you, they would be as equally erroneous as the ones you seem to have made about me. After seeing your name, I recognized we've made comments back and forth of equally insulting nature. Would I be making an erroneous assumption that you are a disturbed individual based on the nature of your personal attacks on me?
I assure you that I am a reasonably well educated and well adjusted person who is somewhat baffled by your uncritical acceptance of pseudoscience. Because at times you do seem to write lucidly. Yes, that is judgmental but I see nothing you've said reasoned or insulting to change that view.
If you wish to continue to trade juvenile insults and arguments. I'll be here. I know this will sound ironic to you, but a high intelligence is no guarantee against believing in things that just aren't true. In fact, I'll go on to assert that it is easier for an intelligent person to delude themselves because it is so much easier to find rationalizations for believing that way. And it is harder to convince them otherwise.
What I have to say is incapable of satisfying you, so I won't waste too much effort here. I have enough facts at my disposal to make a reasonably good assessment of Roswell and UFO's in general to sort the wheat from the chaff. And it's all chaff.
Your statement is almost as galling as Bush's commutation of Libby's sentence. The Bush-Cheney cabal have subverted the Constitution and the governmentis NOT working as intended. VP Cheney now claims he is some hitherto unknown fourth branch of government (WTF?). They led us to war on false pretenses. They have ignored the Geneva convention. They are torturing people. They let people drown in New Orleans. They have suspended Habeas Corpus. I don't know what delusional planet you live on but it must be in the 21% that still thinks the Sun shines out Bush's ass.
...you sound rather judgmental and thoughtless to me.
You seem to be implying that's a bad thing. If I said the whole story was total bullshit would that make me more thoughtless and more judgmental? I think doing a deathbed confession hoax would be totally cool. Why? 1. People will believe the dying person has nothing to gain from it so they MUST be telling the truth. 2. Anyone who says it's a hoax will be criticized as being insensitive. 3. There is no way those fooled to get even with the dead person once they figure out they've been duped.
Roswell as an alien spaceship crash has been so thoroughly debunked that it was unnecessary for me to go over the same ground again. But I'm sure aliens abducting a few top officials and giving them a good anal probing should get to the bottom of this.
I know Darwin didn't give a deathbed confession about evolution. And it wouldn't have mattered if he did. I'm sorry, I should have clarified that. What I was pointing out how bogus this Roswell deathbed confession was.
Can we digg this story down? This has to be the lamest non-Roland Piquepaille story I've seen on slashdot. It's more of a digg headline. Anyway, supposedly Darwin confessed on his deathbed evolution was wrong. Crackpots can have deathbed confessions too. They may honestly believe that what they say is true even on their deathbeds. It doesn't give it any more credibility and dying people aren't necessarily their most lucid in their final moments.
I worked in a call center that supported PC's and other electronic gadgets for a office supply store chain. I worked for an outsourcing call center. I switched from supporting a cell phone carrier which sucked major ass. The PC support side was a little better because if the EU (end user/customer) didn't want to co-operate I didn't have to help them. I know why most customers were unsatisfied because the majority of solutions with PC's were doing a system restore. This usually meant losing all those family pics.
And if they had to get their printer replaced with their extended warranty, the replacement came from yet another third party and we no longer supported the replacement. They had to get support from a third party for a third party.
The original pictures do look like they are on a slope and it does look like sediment in them. Plain water can't stay liquid for very long at Mar's near vacuum. So the question is what water solutions can stay liquid at that temperature and pressure and for how long? Mars is by no means wet. It is mostly dry, but that doesn't mean it's not damp in spots.
Looking at the very hi-res version of the panorama reminds me of damp soil. If it were shallow liquid the shadows would look different in them I think. There are a few spots that looks like a thin layer of water flowing across sand, but that's what my experiences tell me, so it doesn't necessarily translate into Mars geology, er areology.
It'll be interesting what the explanation turns out be. I would start of with the assumption that it's an artifact of the photo manipulation, and that we'd like it be a water solution of some sort. Then we must do what we can to eliminate our prejudices and artifacts to get to the real story. Whatever it really is will be far more surprising than we can imagine.
They are saying that the continents drifted apart from Pangaea in the last six thousand years!
Yes, indeed. They could slide around a lot faster back then. There was a lot more santorum in continents (heh, heh, get it? incontinents), or rather between them and the mantle. It provided just the right amount of lubrication. Because of that superabundance of that frothy mixture God had to destroy most of mankind.
There was a museum dedicated to Noah's Flood in Tulsa, Oklahoma, home of the 900 foot Jesus. It didn't last long and Tulsa is in the tang on the buckle of the Bible Belt.
According to the origins theory model used by creation scientists, modern kangaroos are the descendants of the two founding members of the modern kangaroo baramin that were taken aboard Noah's Ark prior to the Great Flood. It has not yet been determined by baraminologists whether kangaroos form a holobaramin with the wallaby, tree-kangaroo, wallaroo, pademelon and quokka, or if all these species are in fact apobaraminic or polybaraminic. There is, however, no evidence of a genetic bottleneck in the kangaroo species which would be expected if all kangaroos were descended from two individuals.
After the Flood, these kangaroos bred from the Ark passengers migrated to Australia. There is debate whether this migration happened over land[5] with lower sea levels during the post-flood ice age, or before the supercontinent of Pangea broke apart[6], or if they rafted on mats of vegetation torn up by the receding flood waters.[5] The idea that God simply generated kangaroos into existence there is considered by most creation researchers to be contra-Biblical.
There you have it. Kangaroos got to Australia from the Ark by floating on rafts of vegetation. And what the fuck is a baramin? Is that what they were smoking when they wrote that entry?
Astrobiology Magazine had the opportunity to review some of the martian olivine mystery with planetary scientist Dr. Bill Hartmann, a Mars Global Surveyor team member.
Astrobiology Magazine: There seems to be a brewing mystery centered around the geology of Mars, in that it has water-formed minerals like hematite, but also has water-reactive minerals like olivine. This seems to indicate that flowing water can't be there, particularly if olivine remains. Can you comment, and do you think these kinds of issues can be resolved with the current generation of experiments?
Bill Hartmann: The lack of spectral detection of lakebed salts and carbonates does not prove that lakes never formed (as widely reported in the press) but only that if they did form, say 3 billion years ago, they are now covered and hidden by sediments and dust drifts.
Olivine has been detected spectrally in a few regions, and part of the dominant basaltic rock type, and it's true geologically that prolonged water exposure weathers basalt to other forms. So it's been argued that Mars was never very wet.
But on the other hand, it's just not true that this rules out water activity. Most Mars meteorites, studied in labs on earth, have clear evidence of having been exposed to moisture and salty water. One (named Lafayette) has enough weathered minerals that they could be dated by two labs (California and Arizona) and the water exposure was found to have happened 670 million years ago.
It's not a question of "never any flowing water on Mars," but rather a question of dates of water, duration of exposure of the rock and soils to water, replacement by fresh unweathered rocks such as lavas. After all, earth has lots of basalt rich lava flows and even whole beaches of olivine rich sand with wave lapping on them (I've walked on them!). And no one is going to characterize Earth as a planet devoid of flowing water!
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I'm worried they are still playing Russian roulette with the space shuttle. "Well, it didn't burn up/blow up that time. It must be OK."
I knew one of the early developers who worked on it and the amazing thing about ClarisWorks was that in the Mac market it destroyed the market for Microsoft Works. No small feat.
And you'll let the wookie win, right?
Why would someone wanting to hide a salami be rated troll? What if you had a vegan friend coming over to visit and couldn't stand the sight of meat and you had a salami laying on the counter. Wouldn't you want to hide it? Possibly in that box holding the big sausage pizza you ordered.
A salami.
So what happened to all that optical fiber that was laid but unused during the dot com era? Did it finally get used? Every company wants to emulate DeBeers and create artificial scarcity, so they can jack up the price. If spam were ever gotten under control I would imagine that there would be no need to increase bandwidth.
Smells like FUD to me.
Church? WTF?
Yet another troll story. Clearly brain parasites, possibly of alien origin, have infected CmdrTaco's brain. I can see no other reasonable explanation for all the stories on Roswell and perpetual motion machines of late on Slashdot. I wish we could Digg this story down.
It doesn't belong under science. Not even close. Is there a pseudoscience category?
I must have struck a nerve to be troll rated. I was shooting for funny. I guess some slashdotters have no sense of humor. I'm not sure what made the troll rating: saying slashdot was worse than digg? saying the perpetual motion machine runs on santorum? or that they got the plans for the ppm from the deathbed Roswell confession?
Wasn't there something in that Roswell deathbed confession about a perpetual motion machine?
Did someone at the slashdot story submission approval have a brainfart? Why are they approving bullshit stories like the perpetual motion machines and Roswell? Somebody must feel they have to compete with Digg.
Santorum defined.
then I imagine your life would be rather difficult when it comes to intimacy and trust
You just love insulting people, don't you. Well, I do too. We know very little about each other and although I could make a great many assumptions about you, they would be as equally erroneous as the ones you seem to have made about me. After seeing your name, I recognized we've made comments back and forth of equally insulting nature. Would I be making an erroneous assumption that you are a disturbed individual based on the nature of your personal attacks on me?
I assure you that I am a reasonably well educated and well adjusted person who is somewhat baffled by your uncritical acceptance of pseudoscience. Because at times you do seem to write lucidly. Yes, that is judgmental but I see nothing you've said reasoned or insulting to change that view.
If you wish to continue to trade juvenile insults and arguments. I'll be here. I know this will sound ironic to you, but a high intelligence is no guarantee against believing in things that just aren't true. In fact, I'll go on to assert that it is easier for an intelligent person to delude themselves because it is so much easier to find rationalizations for believing that way. And it is harder to convince them otherwise.
What I have to say is incapable of satisfying you, so I won't waste too much effort here. I have enough facts at my disposal to make a reasonably good assessment of Roswell and UFO's in general to sort the wheat from the chaff. And it's all chaff.
Your statement is almost as galling as Bush's commutation of Libby's sentence. The Bush-Cheney cabal have subverted the Constitution and the governmentis NOT working as intended. VP Cheney now claims he is some hitherto unknown fourth branch of government (WTF?). They led us to war on false pretenses. They have ignored the Geneva convention. They are torturing people. They let people drown in New Orleans. They have suspended Habeas Corpus. I don't know what delusional planet you live on but it must be in the 21% that still thinks the Sun shines out Bush's ass.
...you sound rather judgmental and thoughtless to me.
You seem to be implying that's a bad thing. If I said the whole story was total bullshit would that make me more thoughtless and more judgmental? I think doing a deathbed confession hoax would be totally cool. Why? 1. People will believe the dying person has nothing to gain from it so they MUST be telling the truth. 2. Anyone who says it's a hoax will be criticized as being insensitive. 3. There is no way those fooled to get even with the dead person once they figure out they've been duped.
Roswell as an alien spaceship crash has been so thoroughly debunked that it was unnecessary for me to go over the same ground again. But I'm sure aliens abducting a few top officials and giving them a good anal probing should get to the bottom of this.
I know Darwin didn't give a deathbed confession about evolution. And it wouldn't have mattered if he did. I'm sorry, I should have clarified that. What I was pointing out how bogus this Roswell deathbed confession was.
Can we digg this story down? This has to be the lamest non-Roland Piquepaille story I've seen on slashdot. It's more of a digg headline. Anyway, supposedly Darwin confessed on his deathbed evolution was wrong. Crackpots can have deathbed confessions too. They may honestly believe that what they say is true even on their deathbeds. It doesn't give it any more credibility and dying people aren't necessarily their most lucid in their final moments.
Microsoft will plead users to whack their foreheads repeatedly against their Microsoft keyboards.
I worked in a call center that supported PC's and other electronic gadgets for a office supply store chain. I worked for an outsourcing call center. I switched from supporting a cell phone carrier which sucked major ass. The PC support side was a little better because if the EU (end user/customer) didn't want to co-operate I didn't have to help them. I know why most customers were unsatisfied because the majority of solutions with PC's were doing a system restore. This usually meant losing all those family pics.
And if they had to get their printer replaced with their extended warranty, the replacement came from yet another third party and we no longer supported the replacement. They had to get support from a third party for a third party.
So, I wonder what they'll do if you drive an all electric vehicle. It doesn't use fuel.
Anyway, the moral of the story is twofold: No good deed goes unpunished. Don't tell advertise you are using biofuels.
The original pictures do look like they are on a slope and it does look like sediment in them. Plain water can't stay liquid for very long at Mar's near vacuum. So the question is what water solutions can stay liquid at that temperature and pressure and for how long? Mars is by no means wet. It is mostly dry, but that doesn't mean it's not damp in spots.
Looking at the very hi-res version of the panorama reminds me of damp soil. If it were shallow liquid the shadows would look different in them I think. There are a few spots that looks like a thin layer of water flowing across sand, but that's what my experiences tell me, so it doesn't necessarily translate into Mars geology, er areology.
It'll be interesting what the explanation turns out be. I would start of with the assumption that it's an artifact of the photo manipulation, and that we'd like it be a water solution of some sort. Then we must do what we can to eliminate our prejudices and artifacts to get to the real story. Whatever it really is will be far more surprising than we can imagine.
Yes, indeed. They could slide around a lot faster back then. There was a lot more santorum in continents (heh, heh, get it? incontinents), or rather between them and the mantle. It provided just the right amount of lubrication. Because of that superabundance of that frothy mixture God had to destroy most of mankind.
If you want to know just how whacked out this shit they have at this "Creation Museum", read this entry from Conservapedia on the origin of kangaroos:
There you have it. Kangaroos got to Australia from the Ark by floating on rafts of vegetation. And what the fuck is a baramin? Is that what they were smoking when they wrote that entry?
Time to feed HP to Wu's pigs.