But you wouldn't know whether there wasn't a nuclear war or there wasn't a tsunami.
I'm sure I won't care if it's a lot of things that won't kill me.
Ever seen a fire alarm button? There's a reason it's one button and not 27.
I have. I also note there is a slot in the bottom to clear the alarm if the glass has been broken accidentally. There's also a panel at the building entry to kill the alarm from another place if it goes off inadvertently. And most larger buildings that have fire alarms also have intercom systems allowing security to inform people if the alarm has been triggered by accident.
Yes that is exactly what I just wrote. It is basically the fundamental principle of a "justice" system. Or do you think Hulk Hogan would have extracted a large settlement out of Gawker for NOT publishing a sex tape and NOT violating his right to privacy?
Let me turn this around: It shouldn't be up to billionaires to hold people accountable. You should be able to be bankrupt and bring down those who violate your rights just as easily as Theil did (and the fuckwits working at Gawker really did make this very easy).
If out of the many millions of people in your country you can't find someone to represent you view against unjust laws who isn't a convicted felon then there is something very wrong with your country.
The main problem here is the public will stand behind anyone or anything (as evident from the monkeys currently in power capable of only throwing feces at each other while grabbing people by their pussies). The public is a crap judge of character. Past actions however is a pretty good judge.
I also call bullshit about vindictive laws being published, especially since the whole point of a democracy is that the laws are the will of the electorate (or at least it should be). You don't see this in most other democracies. e.g. Australia. The constitution has very few protected rights of the people, not even free speech, however it bans people holding office if convicted of an offence punishable by more than 1 year in prison. This is specifically to prevent inciting corruption. There's other checks too, such as you can't be bankrupt or insolvent, be making any profit off the government both directly and indirectly (exceptions being positions appointed by the Queen, e.g. governor can run for parliament).
If they were pre-recorded then it is a mistake that can easily be reversed. Especially since the all-clear with no prior would be obviously incorrect.
In any case it sounds like it is a difficult and convoluted process according to the GP to send one of these out. Having an area in a state of emergency simply because it takes time to record a message to say the emergency is over is not without consequence either.
Doesn't the USA have laws against convicted criminals being elected for public office? Regardless of what you think about her, she still was convicted of a serious crime. How is she fit to serve?
The people who touted it as being as anonymous as cash have been proven wrong.
Traceability and anonymity are two different things. The problem is that people didn't know the difference between the two and thus were "proven wrong" simply because they used the wrong word, and you're falling into the same trap.
Bitcoin is traceable. Bitcoin is anonymous.
Compare it to this slashdot post. It is traceable. You can click my name and compare it to the other posts I made. You can build a complete history of what I said. That said it is also anonymous. Without me providing some 3rd party hint at who I am all you will forever know is that I'm "thegarbz".
Now that said I don't protect my name, and therefore it shouldn't be much effort to find out who I actually am. But a bitcoin wallet remains as anonymous as you make it. What isn't anonymous is the companies which monitor the transnational changes from real world currency (e.g. bank transfer) to and from your wallet. But that doesn't make bitcoin any less anonymous.
So to be clear they had a formally formatted and pre-prepared alert for "incoming missile", but don't have one for "crisis over"? That seems counter-intuitive.
I am offended by other people who are not doing anythings children being given priority access to health and education over my children, because I choose to not do nothing.
So am I, which is why I'm in favour of UBI, especially the "universal" bit rather than the "means tested" or the "single mother" or the "disability* support" (*where disability is defined as anything other than being 100% perfectly healthy).
We also know that a segment of the population, given the option to do nothing WILL DO NOTHING.
That segment of the population is already doing nothing. The whole point about basic is that it is enough for people to survive. Despite what you think of people nearly all of them are not content with surviving. The vast majority of them actually want to live, not just survive.
The billionaire can't shutdown someone who isn't doing something to violate the laws. Regardless of how you paint this as a David and Golliath issue, the fact is that David left himself open as heck. Just because someone is a celebrity doesn't mean the entire world is entitled to a breach of their privacy. That is what got them, not the fact that the other person was a billionaire.
Just because muck raking is tradition doesn't mean it should continue, and doesn't mean it should be exempt from laws. And based on the comments during the lawsuit Gawker deserves to not exist, despite the fact that there was good journalism mixed in with their screwed up practices.
Ah, yes & no - those protections you speak of are in the PLC and controller code, which may well be able to be changed via these apps or vulnerabilities exposed to or by these apps.
No and no. There's no safety systems vendor in the world that provides an "app" that can write to a safety system, and PLCs and controller codes are far from the only systems. Thermal protection for machines is often independent of safety and controllers, for electrical they sit in the electrical protection domain even for things like temperature. For pressure protection there are relief valves, and bursting discs. For flow protection we have check valves (which admittedly spend more time in a jammed state than anything useful). But fundamentally when analysing the risk on a site the primary scenario you take into account is the failure of the control system.
like mix explosive chemicals
So your safety system isn't configured correctly?
run at unsafe speeds/temps with various material mixtures, over-tension, etc.
Your overspeed protection is set incorrectly?
The control system can't know everything in complex systems.
It doesn't need to. In process in general there's a 100 ways to screw up a product but only a select few ways to kill people or properly blow something up. Those are typically clearly defined and easily identifiable.
Plus lots of systems have manual modes and sequencing that depend on operator brains and skills,
Anything an operator can manually do should not result in a major incident. Sequence aborted, yes, process shutdown, yes, maybe even minor equipment damage such as carrying catalyst to a place it shouldn't, yes. But anything that results in significant safety risks should have independent systems to ensure that during the sequence an incident can't eventuate.
Now that is if you're compliant with risk assessment processes. Clearly there are plenty that are not, e.g. on the Chemical Safety Board's website the very first article is about operators manually mixing two chemicals by hooking up to the wrong line which wasn't clearly identified and valves weren't lined up correctly and no interlocks were in place. From my comment I wouldn't considered this as maintained to minimum standards from the HSE (and likely OSHA too) since this risk was either not understood, or almost criminally not mitigated.
and perhaps maintenance modes.
Now we're talking! This is actually the single largest cause of incidents in the west. Miss-management of abnormal operating conditions. Failure to do management of change, failure to risk assess, failure to identify changes in the plant operation, failure to manage bypasses etc. The vast majority of our leaks, fires, explosions, etc are all caused by someone making a physical change to the process or removing (or not replacing) one of the safety barriers.
Anyone who suggests this should be possible from an some app, or at the press of a button should have their pubic hair individually plucked. Yes I agree with you the idea to turn everything into a fucking app is horrible.:-)
the police would knock on the door politely, walk in calmly, and sit down for some milk and cookies?
Well yes, that's how hostage situations are diffused in much of the rest of the world. The fact that swatting is a thing just shows how fucked up your police are in the first place.
There's something even more screwed up about the "leftpad" example: The package that half of the world depended on was leftpad 0.0.3. So someone had the genius to depend on code which based on its version number looked like an early alpha release.
To who? In general content speedlanes (i.e video streaming over gaming) has at no time ever been discussed. The problem was source based speedlanes (i.e. Netflix over Hulu). I think you'll find consumers generally do not know if they want content based speedlanes or not since it has never been on the table.
How do you bypass the BIOS password if you can't get to the BIOS boot menu, because you don't have the BIOS password?
That is what is expressly addressed by this "vulnerability". You don't need to enter a BIOS menu to access MEBx, and if you have remote administration enabled in AMT you don't even need to be at the computer. Yet from there you can specifically change BIOS settings.
In Portuguese the word is "chá" and originated in Macau.
The Portuguese trading empire was a tiny fraction of what the Dutch accomplished. The Dutch fleet was estimated to be larger than all other traders in Europe combined and it was the Dutch that introduced tea to most of Europe.
That does not match the article theory: it came through sea trade, at least in that case.
Unless there is something wrong with the current interface, updating for the sake of it...
Despite what users think very few updates are "for the sake of it". Typically updates to interfaces are to capture new users with the knowledge that the old users while complaining bitterly are locked in to your platform. When your growth stagnates a new interface and give it yet another bump.
You see marketing people are just like any other people, they are a business decision that need to provide more value to the company than their paycheck or they get made redundant. Without marketing people doing things like playing with the interface you get... Linux software with its wonderfully huge single digit percentage adoption rates, or you get stagnation with no new users (who wants to start using untrendy software that looks like it hasn't been updated in years) and an eventual loss of old users due to churn.
I haven't heard anything convincing that says Spectre can be fixed with a software update.
There's two variants of Spectre: Variant 1 is fixed in the kernel OR on recent processors with a microcode update. Both rely on the LFENCE opcode.
Variant 2 is fixed in the kernel with IBRS AND a microcode update (no performance on Skylake and more recent processors). It can also be mitigated in software using retpoline in the software + kernel support (no performance hit, but relies on individual programs being updated).
And for comlpeteness sake Meltdown is fixed in the kernel with KPTI.
Interestingly enough Windows rolled out a fix to variant 1 straight away, where Linux vendors focused on variant 2.
If this were about money then you wouldn't have bought Intel shit to start with. -_- This is obviously about superior performance.
You presume to know *when* I bought my system. For a longest time Intel was the only option when it came to performance. AMD was the choice of idealism and if you were looking for something performing worse than a Celeron. It is only recently that AMD has once again become a viable contender.
Why do you have to have a second "normal" car? I go to a sandy island accessible only by SUV several times a year camping. I don't own an SUV. Somehow I still manage to drive one there.
It's almost like there are some companies that fill the need for the occasional use cases people constantly come up with.
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But you wouldn't know whether there wasn't a nuclear war or there wasn't a tsunami.
I'm sure I won't care if it's a lot of things that won't kill me.
Ever seen a fire alarm button? There's a reason it's one button and not 27.
I have. I also note there is a slot in the bottom to clear the alarm if the glass has been broken accidentally. There's also a panel at the building entry to kill the alarm from another place if it goes off inadvertently. And most larger buildings that have fire alarms also have intercom systems allowing security to inform people if the alarm has been triggered by accident.
Thanks, you picked a really good example.
Yes that is exactly what I just wrote. It is basically the fundamental principle of a "justice" system. Or do you think Hulk Hogan would have extracted a large settlement out of Gawker for NOT publishing a sex tape and NOT violating his right to privacy?
Let me turn this around: It shouldn't be up to billionaires to hold people accountable. You should be able to be bankrupt and bring down those who violate your rights just as easily as Theil did (and the fuckwits working at Gawker really did make this very easy).
All of which is completely and utterly irrelevant to my question.
you allow unjust laws to ferment unchallenged
If out of the many millions of people in your country you can't find someone to represent you view against unjust laws who isn't a convicted felon then there is something very wrong with your country.
The main problem here is the public will stand behind anyone or anything (as evident from the monkeys currently in power capable of only throwing feces at each other while grabbing people by their pussies). The public is a crap judge of character. Past actions however is a pretty good judge.
I also call bullshit about vindictive laws being published, especially since the whole point of a democracy is that the laws are the will of the electorate (or at least it should be). You don't see this in most other democracies. e.g. Australia. The constitution has very few protected rights of the people, not even free speech, however it bans people holding office if convicted of an offence punishable by more than 1 year in prison. This is specifically to prevent inciting corruption. There's other checks too, such as you can't be bankrupt or insolvent, be making any profit off the government both directly and indirectly (exceptions being positions appointed by the Queen, e.g. governor can run for parliament).
If they were pre-recorded then it is a mistake that can easily be reversed. Especially since the all-clear with no prior would be obviously incorrect.
In any case it sounds like it is a difficult and convoluted process according to the GP to send one of these out. Having an area in a state of emergency simply because it takes time to record a message to say the emergency is over is not without consequence either.
Doesn't the USA have laws against convicted criminals being elected for public office? Regardless of what you think about her, she still was convicted of a serious crime. How is she fit to serve?
The people who touted it as being as anonymous as cash have been proven wrong.
Traceability and anonymity are two different things. The problem is that people didn't know the difference between the two and thus were "proven wrong" simply because they used the wrong word, and you're falling into the same trap.
Bitcoin is traceable.
Bitcoin is anonymous.
Compare it to this slashdot post. It is traceable. You can click my name and compare it to the other posts I made. You can build a complete history of what I said. That said it is also anonymous. Without me providing some 3rd party hint at who I am all you will forever know is that I'm "thegarbz".
Now that said I don't protect my name, and therefore it shouldn't be much effort to find out who I actually am. But a bitcoin wallet remains as anonymous as you make it. What isn't anonymous is the companies which monitor the transnational changes from real world currency (e.g. bank transfer) to and from your wallet. But that doesn't make bitcoin any less anonymous.
So to be clear they had a formally formatted and pre-prepared alert for "incoming missile", but don't have one for "crisis over"? That seems counter-intuitive.
It doesn't seem to be a coincidence that Microsoft and Facebook were founded by college students living on daddy's dime.
You have picked two examples out of millions around the world. That is by definition a coincidence.
Obligatory XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1827/ Survivorship Bias.
I am offended by other people who are not doing anythings children being given priority access to health and education over my children, because I choose to not do nothing.
So am I, which is why I'm in favour of UBI, especially the "universal" bit rather than the "means tested" or the "single mother" or the "disability* support" (*where disability is defined as anything other than being 100% perfectly healthy).
We also know that a segment of the population, given the option to do nothing WILL DO NOTHING.
That segment of the population is already doing nothing. The whole point about basic is that it is enough for people to survive. Despite what you think of people nearly all of them are not content with surviving. The vast majority of them actually want to live, not just survive.
The billionaire can't shutdown someone who isn't doing something to violate the laws. Regardless of how you paint this as a David and Golliath issue, the fact is that David left himself open as heck. Just because someone is a celebrity doesn't mean the entire world is entitled to a breach of their privacy. That is what got them, not the fact that the other person was a billionaire.
Just because muck raking is tradition doesn't mean it should continue, and doesn't mean it should be exempt from laws. And based on the comments during the lawsuit Gawker deserves to not exist, despite the fact that there was good journalism mixed in with their screwed up practices.
Ah, yes & no - those protections you speak of are in the PLC and controller code, which may well be able to be changed via these apps or vulnerabilities exposed to or by these apps.
No and no. There's no safety systems vendor in the world that provides an "app" that can write to a safety system, and PLCs and controller codes are far from the only systems. Thermal protection for machines is often independent of safety and controllers, for electrical they sit in the electrical protection domain even for things like temperature. For pressure protection there are relief valves, and bursting discs. For flow protection we have check valves (which admittedly spend more time in a jammed state than anything useful). But fundamentally when analysing the risk on a site the primary scenario you take into account is the failure of the control system.
like mix explosive chemicals
So your safety system isn't configured correctly?
run at unsafe speeds/temps with various material mixtures, over-tension, etc.
Your overspeed protection is set incorrectly?
The control system can't know everything in complex systems.
It doesn't need to. In process in general there's a 100 ways to screw up a product but only a select few ways to kill people or properly blow something up. Those are typically clearly defined and easily identifiable.
Plus lots of systems have manual modes and sequencing that depend on operator brains and skills,
Anything an operator can manually do should not result in a major incident. Sequence aborted, yes, process shutdown, yes, maybe even minor equipment damage such as carrying catalyst to a place it shouldn't, yes. But anything that results in significant safety risks should have independent systems to ensure that during the sequence an incident can't eventuate.
Now that is if you're compliant with risk assessment processes. Clearly there are plenty that are not, e.g. on the Chemical Safety Board's website the very first article is about operators manually mixing two chemicals by hooking up to the wrong line which wasn't clearly identified and valves weren't lined up correctly and no interlocks were in place. From my comment I wouldn't considered this as maintained to minimum standards from the HSE (and likely OSHA too) since this risk was either not understood, or almost criminally not mitigated.
and perhaps maintenance modes.
Now we're talking! This is actually the single largest cause of incidents in the west. Miss-management of abnormal operating conditions. Failure to do management of change, failure to risk assess, failure to identify changes in the plant operation, failure to manage bypasses etc. The vast majority of our leaks, fires, explosions, etc are all caused by someone making a physical change to the process or removing (or not replacing) one of the safety barriers.
Anyone who suggests this should be possible from an some app, or at the press of a button should have their pubic hair individually plucked. Yes I agree with you the idea to turn everything into a fucking app is horrible. :-)
This unaccepted pull request to fix it is hilarious: https://github.com/stevemao/le... [github.com]
I think the single most amazing thing about that fix is that the single line change literally modifies ~10% of the code of the package :-)
the police would knock on the door politely, walk in calmly, and sit down for some milk and cookies?
Well yes, that's how hostage situations are diffused in much of the rest of the world. The fact that swatting is a thing just shows how fucked up your police are in the first place.
There's something even more screwed up about the "leftpad" example: The package that half of the world depended on was leftpad 0.0.3. So someone had the genius to depend on code which based on its version number looked like an early alpha release.
To who? In general content speedlanes (i.e video streaming over gaming) has at no time ever been discussed. The problem was source based speedlanes (i.e. Netflix over Hulu). I think you'll find consumers generally do not know if they want content based speedlanes or not since it has never been on the table.
How do you bypass the BIOS password if you can't get to the BIOS boot menu, because you don't have the BIOS password?
That is what is expressly addressed by this "vulnerability". You don't need to enter a BIOS menu to access MEBx, and if you have remote administration enabled in AMT you don't even need to be at the computer. Yet from there you can specifically change BIOS settings.
In Portuguese the word is "chá" and originated in Macau.
The Portuguese trading empire was a tiny fraction of what the Dutch accomplished. The Dutch fleet was estimated to be larger than all other traders in Europe combined and it was the Dutch that introduced tea to most of Europe.
That does not match the article theory: it came through sea trade, at least in that case.
The article specifically talks about it.
basic entomology one can look up online in 5 seconds
I'd like to file a bug report on your post.
Unless there is something wrong with the current interface, updating for the sake of it ...
Despite what users think very few updates are "for the sake of it". Typically updates to interfaces are to capture new users with the knowledge that the old users while complaining bitterly are locked in to your platform. When your growth stagnates a new interface and give it yet another bump.
You see marketing people are just like any other people, they are a business decision that need to provide more value to the company than their paycheck or they get made redundant. Without marketing people doing things like playing with the interface you get ... Linux software with its wonderfully huge single digit percentage adoption rates, or you get stagnation with no new users (who wants to start using untrendy software that looks like it hasn't been updated in years) and an eventual loss of old users due to churn.
I haven't heard anything convincing that says Spectre can be fixed with a software update.
There's two variants of Spectre:
Variant 1 is fixed in the kernel OR on recent processors with a microcode update. Both rely on the LFENCE opcode.
Variant 2 is fixed in the kernel with IBRS AND a microcode update (no performance on Skylake and more recent processors). It can also be mitigated in software using retpoline in the software + kernel support (no performance hit, but relies on individual programs being updated).
And for comlpeteness sake Meltdown is fixed in the kernel with KPTI.
Interestingly enough Windows rolled out a fix to variant 1 straight away, where Linux vendors focused on variant 2.
If this were about money then you wouldn't have bought Intel shit to start with. -_-
This is obviously about superior performance.
You presume to know *when* I bought my system. For a longest time Intel was the only option when it came to performance. AMD was the choice of idealism and if you were looking for something performing worse than a Celeron. It is only recently that AMD has once again become a viable contender.
Why do you have to have a second "normal" car? I go to a sandy island accessible only by SUV several times a year camping. I don't own an SUV. Somehow I still manage to drive one there.
It's almost like there are some companies that fill the need for the occasional use cases people constantly come up with.
Does anyone really think they will be taking a driverless taxi/uber anywhere before 2025?
Given how far we've come in the past 2 years, yes. Yes I do.