However, starting about twenty years ago it started to deteriorate even further, and today it has become a shameless race to the bottom.
Good. 20 years ago the thought of a flight to another country being less than the cost of the train to the airport was a fantasy. Now I basically do weekend trips all over the continent for less than the cost of a night out where I am going.
Kid's lemonade store is about the only case in the USA where when you actually go to pay you will part with exactly as much money as was listed on advertisement.
Gas station? Like the one where I bought a Marsbar for $1.20 and then was asked for $1.35 at the checkout?
Much of Pai's reasoning seems to be "the market will take care of it", but the problem is that there is no real market pressure on ISPs.
The market hasn't taken care of this in any industry or any country in the world. About the only places where consumers aren't hit by hidden costs are places where the law makes it illegal to do so.
It is made worse in the USA by this absurd notion of not actually knowing what the general costs are in the first place. I mean I was completely blown away the first time I visited and I was fully prepared for the strange culture of tipping a certain percentage. But that I couldn't even buy a Marsbar for the advertised price because of taxes just floored me.
Notice Germany and the EU hasn't done a damn thing. And no, "fines" don't count. These people all have plenty of money. Shame on the EU.
And right up until yesterday neither had the USA. Things take time, and while the USA is putting a lot of effort into crucifying one guy both the EU and Germany are instead looking at the entire industry and have only just begun to bring cases against not only VW, but also Daimler and BMW too.
Shame on the USA for scapegoating by going after one person rather than tackling the wider issue.
Nope. I'm doubling down on not arguing with religious extremists. I will provide a cite, you'll reference some small thing you don't like about it, I'll provide another one you'll rinse and repeat because you have formed an opinion and will defend it to the end.
The only way you will change your mind is if you research it yourself and come up with the conclusions yourself. Even then you will likely defend your original opinion in public because that's what stubborn humans do.
What I think is not relevant to you. I put forward a clear and testable logic that can be checked with the most simple of correlations. Rather than argue about the source and quality of data you can fill in the blanks yourself. Don't expect everything to be fed to you just so you can continue an argument.
I'm not making any argument other than the fact that yours are irrelevant in the face of very big and public technical debates on the adoption of systemd.
Whatever you think is behind it doesn't matter. You're just some voice on the internet and don't represent the adopters, technical committees, or the large user base.
Yes they have. They have also been decommissioning older ones at an incredible pace and now vastly outstripped the USA and many European countries in the percentage of new projects providing green power. But I get it, it's all Jina's fault. Not the fault of the country with one of the largest per capita emissions in the world, with one of the largest energy consumption per household in the world, and the only country who thinks the Paris Accords is just so "not fair and I don't want to play anymore".
Energy consumption speaks for itself. Consumption per household is directly correlated to the amount of electricity consumed per household in most countries.
I'm not going to point to anything, you can look up the well known fact that USA households are incredibly wasteful yourself. But I'm willing to listen if you have some kind of psychological explanation to how the USA gets that wasteful if what you think is actually the case,... you know kind of like the massive increase in large car sales as a result of the dropping oil price in the last 2 years. I'm keen to see if you can point to an example of most people on the whole not selflessly exploiting their available opportunities, specifically cheap electricity and cheap oil. The wealth of USA statics on the matter currently speaks against it.
If it were truly a catastrophe, there should be many large cities where whole generations should have perished.
You don't need to outright kill a population for it to be a catastrophe. Heck it would probably be a preferred outcome over disabling them or inflicting chronic illnesses on them instead.
That's not a failing of the currency, that is basic economics. To stabilise a currency you need to peg it to something stable, and historically that is done through trading volumes. If bitcoin were used to purchase goods and services and if every day 10s of millions of dollars of bitcoin were converted back and forth into other currencies it would be very stable. The stability comes through use.
It is failing for many other reasons, such as high transaction costs, but fundamentally the stability is not a failure of bitcoin.
An appreciable amount of people believe in a magical skydaddy. A slight minority of Americans believe that Trump was the best choice for president. Even here on Slashdot where we hold ourselves as members of a generally more intelligent crowd we get people who believe the world is red or blue and don't actually analyse issued on their merits or refuse that both sides of politics are wrong.
What I'm saying is, people don't need to be paid under the table. Some people are genuinely stupid.
No human would be without anomalies if tested intensively enough.
Yes but a group wouldn't have identical anomalies. Also everytime you go to the doctor do you take a healthy person with you and when the doctor asks you to say "aaaah" do you then say you won't believe him that your throat is red until he checks the control group?
If I touch water and find it is wet, do I also need a control group? When do I get to fall back on the past experience of what the brain looks like, what a normal throat looks like, or what my hands feel like when they aren't touching water?
And yet you continue to generalise as a way of countering something specific and demonstrably wrong.
For decades, doctors have been quick to prescribe a perpetual treatment for diabetes
An occasional rogue doctor does not reflect the general medical advice as issued by policy. For that you look to the policy of medical institutions, governments, and the organisations that exist to help reduce the problem. That advice has been clear since day one.
Mind you there are legitimate reasons to prescribe medications as well. I have a friend who got Type 2 diabetes and was instantly put on drugs. Mind you suddenly going blind in one eye and passing out while walking down the road does that. Surprise surprise 4 weeks later when he was stable the advice was to manage diet and weight and start weening off drugs.
But I'm not going to convince you of anything. You made up your mind about the evil MIC before you even posted. I'm just pointing out your arguments backing your opinion are incredibly poor.
But no, rich people obviously have large private vaults where they swim in gold coins right?
You do realise the GP was postulating a theory based on the idea of perfect economics. The reality is not that they put it in the bank available to others, but invest it to further enrich themselves. A petty few turn to philanthropy and spend it on the poor, but the vast majority isn't available to someone as lending power, as evident by the amount of efforts the government put into propping up the banks when it all went tits up 10 years ago.
That graph is only of interest to residents of Hawaii. Electricity in the USA is priced in a way that doesn't make it at all surprising that they have one of the largest energy uses per household in the world.
At no point in your reply did you come close to making a point against what I said. Industrial customers are just one small aspect of civilisation.
Your idea that we don't need power is also absolutely preposterous when faced with clear evidence of what happens in areas when the power goes out (food waste, crime, looting, work disruption, and depending on how long the outage lasts: panic, and medical dramas.
The only thing that is 100% certain is that if you run for president on a platform that people should not expect perfectly reliable power, you won't be any more president after the election than you are now. There's a reason "power" (or lack there of) is a political poison pill.
Speaking of politics and your idea to move industry around to level out power, you can start by telling people they will need to universally adopt shift work. See how well that goes down.
Many thanks. We were looking at this the other day as we were close to getting a Chromecast because Kodi is just taking forever to get Netflix support. But 2 weeks ago Amazon Prime came to the Netherlands, and put that idea on hold.
And the smart TV's built in Netflix App is garbage (doesn't understand accounts), and so is the Prime app (crashes a lot, sometimes mid-movie).
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However, starting about twenty years ago it started to deteriorate even further, and today it has become a shameless race to the bottom.
Good. 20 years ago the thought of a flight to another country being less than the cost of the train to the airport was a fantasy. Now I basically do weekend trips all over the continent for less than the cost of a night out where I am going.
Keep the race going, this has been great.
Kid's lemonade store is about the only case in the USA where when you actually go to pay you will part with exactly as much money as was listed on advertisement.
Gas station? Like the one where I bought a Marsbar for $1.20 and then was asked for $1.35 at the checkout?
Much of Pai's reasoning seems to be "the market will take care of it", but the problem is that there is no real market pressure on ISPs.
The market hasn't taken care of this in any industry or any country in the world. About the only places where consumers aren't hit by hidden costs are places where the law makes it illegal to do so.
It is made worse in the USA by this absurd notion of not actually knowing what the general costs are in the first place. I mean I was completely blown away the first time I visited and I was fully prepared for the strange culture of tipping a certain percentage. But that I couldn't even buy a Marsbar for the advertised price because of taxes just floored me.
Notice Germany and the EU hasn't done a damn thing. And no, "fines" don't count. These people all have plenty of money. Shame on the EU.
And right up until yesterday neither had the USA. Things take time, and while the USA is putting a lot of effort into crucifying one guy both the EU and Germany are instead looking at the entire industry and have only just begun to bring cases against not only VW, but also Daimler and BMW too.
Shame on the USA for scapegoating by going after one person rather than tackling the wider issue.
Nope. I'm doubling down on not arguing with religious extremists. I will provide a cite, you'll reference some small thing you don't like about it, I'll provide another one you'll rinse and repeat because you have formed an opinion and will defend it to the end.
The only way you will change your mind is if you research it yourself and come up with the conclusions yourself. Even then you will likely defend your original opinion in public because that's what stubborn humans do.
What I think is not relevant to you. I put forward a clear and testable logic that can be checked with the most simple of correlations. Rather than argue about the source and quality of data you can fill in the blanks yourself. Don't expect everything to be fed to you just so you can continue an argument.
She's in nursing school right now
So a member of a different generation making everything you said irrelevant. Why didn't you just open with that?
I'm not making any argument other than the fact that yours are irrelevant in the face of very big and public technical debates on the adoption of systemd.
Whatever you think is behind it doesn't matter. You're just some voice on the internet and don't represent the adopters, technical committees, or the large user base.
No Supply and Demand determine the price, not the stability.
Large volumes determine stability, that way a shift in supply and a shift in demand doesn't have such an effect on the price.
The globe does not fucking care where CO2 comes from. It DOES care about total concentration.
Exactly, so the USA among the dirtiest people on our global globe should stop pointing fingers.
Yes they have. They have also been decommissioning older ones at an incredible pace and now vastly outstripped the USA and many European countries in the percentage of new projects providing green power. But I get it, it's all Jina's fault. Not the fault of the country with one of the largest per capita emissions in the world, with one of the largest energy consumption per household in the world, and the only country who thinks the Paris Accords is just so "not fair and I don't want to play anymore".
Energy consumption speaks for itself. Consumption per household is directly correlated to the amount of electricity consumed per household in most countries.
I'm not going to point to anything, you can look up the well known fact that USA households are incredibly wasteful yourself. But I'm willing to listen if you have some kind of psychological explanation to how the USA gets that wasteful if what you think is actually the case, ... you know kind of like the massive increase in large car sales as a result of the dropping oil price in the last 2 years. I'm keen to see if you can point to an example of most people on the whole not selflessly exploiting their available opportunities, specifically cheap electricity and cheap oil. The wealth of USA statics on the matter currently speaks against it.
A day when no government can create or destroy money is a win for the world.
You have never taken an economics class have you.
You can always do your cryptocurrency computation only in the winter, in a northern climate, and use the heat to warm your house.
Horrible idea. Why would you waste energy like that when a heatpump could do it with far lower resources?
We could see species adaptions there that donâ(TM)t exist anywhere else.
Just what we need. The first superhuman turns out to be a supervillain with the powers to telemarket to everyone at the same time.
If it were truly a catastrophe, there should be many large cities where whole generations should have perished.
You don't need to outright kill a population for it to be a catastrophe. Heck it would probably be a preferred outcome over disabling them or inflicting chronic illnesses on them instead.
That's not a failing of the currency, that is basic economics. To stabilise a currency you need to peg it to something stable, and historically that is done through trading volumes. If bitcoin were used to purchase goods and services and if every day 10s of millions of dollars of bitcoin were converted back and forth into other currencies it would be very stable. The stability comes through use.
It is failing for many other reasons, such as high transaction costs, but fundamentally the stability is not a failure of bitcoin.
I wonder who is paying him under the table?
An appreciable amount of people believe in a magical skydaddy.
A slight minority of Americans believe that Trump was the best choice for president.
Even here on Slashdot where we hold ourselves as members of a generally more intelligent crowd we get people who believe the world is red or blue and don't actually analyse issued on their merits or refuse that both sides of politics are wrong.
What I'm saying is, people don't need to be paid under the table. Some people are genuinely stupid.
What's this "constitution" thing? Asking for a friend.
- Trump.
No human would be without anomalies if tested intensively enough.
Yes but a group wouldn't have identical anomalies. Also everytime you go to the doctor do you take a healthy person with you and when the doctor asks you to say "aaaah" do you then say you won't believe him that your throat is red until he checks the control group?
If I touch water and find it is wet, do I also need a control group? When do I get to fall back on the past experience of what the brain looks like, what a normal throat looks like, or what my hands feel like when they aren't touching water?
And yet you continue to generalise as a way of countering something specific and demonstrably wrong.
For decades, doctors have been quick to prescribe a perpetual treatment for diabetes
An occasional rogue doctor does not reflect the general medical advice as issued by policy. For that you look to the policy of medical institutions, governments, and the organisations that exist to help reduce the problem. That advice has been clear since day one.
Mind you there are legitimate reasons to prescribe medications as well. I have a friend who got Type 2 diabetes and was instantly put on drugs. Mind you suddenly going blind in one eye and passing out while walking down the road does that. Surprise surprise 4 weeks later when he was stable the advice was to manage diet and weight and start weening off drugs.
But I'm not going to convince you of anything. You made up your mind about the evil MIC before you even posted. I'm just pointing out your arguments backing your opinion are incredibly poor.
No they don't. The word you are looking for is "few". If it as infact "many" then the USA wouldn't hold that dubious title it holds.
People care about complaining to the government that their power is unreliable and that energy saving bulbs contain teh mercuries.
But no, rich people obviously have large private vaults where they swim in gold coins right?
You do realise the GP was postulating a theory based on the idea of perfect economics. The reality is not that they put it in the bank available to others, but invest it to further enrich themselves. A petty few turn to philanthropy and spend it on the poor, but the vast majority isn't available to someone as lending power, as evident by the amount of efforts the government put into propping up the banks when it all went tits up 10 years ago.
That graph is only of interest to residents of Hawaii. Electricity in the USA is priced in a way that doesn't make it at all surprising that they have one of the largest energy uses per household in the world.
At no point in your reply did you come close to making a point against what I said. Industrial customers are just one small aspect of civilisation.
Your idea that we don't need power is also absolutely preposterous when faced with clear evidence of what happens in areas when the power goes out (food waste, crime, looting, work disruption, and depending on how long the outage lasts: panic, and medical dramas.
The only thing that is 100% certain is that if you run for president on a platform that people should not expect perfectly reliable power, you won't be any more president after the election than you are now. There's a reason "power" (or lack there of) is a political poison pill.
Speaking of politics and your idea to move industry around to level out power, you can start by telling people they will need to universally adopt shift work. See how well that goes down.
Many thanks. We were looking at this the other day as we were close to getting a Chromecast because Kodi is just taking forever to get Netflix support. But 2 weeks ago Amazon Prime came to the Netherlands, and put that idea on hold.
And the smart TV's built in Netflix App is garbage (doesn't understand accounts), and so is the Prime app (crashes a lot, sometimes mid-movie).