This all stems from the fact that Google gave developers too much control, and developers treated phones as if they were PCs instead of embedded mobile devices.
This is a counter to an argument that was never fully explored. The GP said "how does anybody manage all of that", the answer is people don't. The phone happily manages itself. No issue with developers or anything, the fact that the GP sees indecipherable processes in the first place or anything beyond a list of apps that he himself installed shows not that Google didn't restrict control, it shows that the GP is doing too much digging and tinkering rather than just using their device.
Now Android is in the completely expected position of trying to lock things down without breaking half the apps on the app store.
Again it's nothing of the sort. Android has handled this issue just fine for years. The problem is idiots telling people they need to micromanage their OS causing people to expect to have the micromanagement handed to them on a silver platter which leads to OEMs developing their custom garbage and utterly pointless systems which have a negative impact on the device.
The advice to force kill backgrounded apps for battery life has been wrong for 10 years, that hasn't reduced the amount of apps that are available for the express purpose of doing this.
It has tons of processes that are indecipherable. How does anybody manage all of that?
Easy answer. You don't. The fact that you even see the tons of processes means that you are not using the OS, you ARE the OS. Android will run perfectly fine with you ever seeing any process referenced which you didn't specifically install. This includes the topic at hand which is about apps being killed and nothing to do with indecipherable background processes that users never see.
Smaller and thicker phones with a decently thick battery.
Phones have been getting thicker and batteries have been getting larger consistently across models for the past 3 years. If you want an even thicker device, get yourself a battery boosting case and don't pretend like you speak for everyone.
Then the battery life is not 'superficially' extended, it is either extended or it isn't.
Splitting hairs will not help your cause. There are many apps that do background related tasks so infrequently that killing them has no more than a "superficial" improvement, which as the definition of the word implies it makes no difference at all to battery life.
Android does not have an internal task scheduler so apps need to suspend themselves in order to run tasks. While they are suspended they have practically no impact on the device.
We don't need that shit running in the background.
You never specified what is running in the background. You don't need a trigger service running in the background when you want to trigger on events? You don't need a syncing service running in the background when you want to automatically cloud sync?
Because that's the "shit" we're talking about. Samsung by default will kill both the Owncloud and IFTTT clients.
How do you get the decryption key without knowing for sure that someone isn't listening? I would propose a system like Quantum Key Distribution, I think I read about it once on Slashdot.
...why anyone would want to use biometric passcodes to unlock anything so private as a cell phone is today.
Because for nearly everyone in the world the biggest security risk is losing their phone and hoping that whoever finds it doesn't have automatic access to your Facebook account.
If you work for the CIA then you may have a differing opinion on that. Personally if you want my phone you can have it. Just don't delete any of the dickpicks. I'll even give you my passcode: 000000
It seems like the whole 5G rollout thing is becoming a bit of a mess
In what regard? It looks just like any other technology transition so far, and that even includes companies lying about their technology.
Better question: With phones no longer being yearly disposable devices does it make sense for Apple to continue to always adopt the latest modem last as they have done with all previous changes in technology? It may be far more than 1 year that you will be waiting.
It does seem that the U.S. is in somewhat of a manufacturing boom of late.
Does it? It would appear as though the entire car industry across the globe is just shuffling people around for the inevitable EV switch.
VW used to make a great product.
FTFY. I wouldn't touch VW with a 10foot pole and that has nothing to do with the diesel scandal. Their cars haven't been great or even deserving of the title "good" for a while now. German (or rather VW group specifically) manufacturing has gone massively downhill.
I've jumped on the buzzword bandwagon and let AI manage it for me.
You jest, but as someone who was forced to use Outlook 365 the first thing I did was switch off that worthless "focused inbox" which appeared to take a guess at what I wanted to see at any given time.
Which of course, introduces the question, why use a 5g connection, or any wireless connection at all, when a wired connection using oh, fiber optic cabling, would be so much more reliable, not to mention faster in terms of both bandwidth and latency...
Why do you make a phone call on 4G right now instead of dragging a fibre cable around behind you? The premise of wireless is that wired connections are not always feasible. The reason for using 5G is bandwidth.
If you didn't read the news, you wouldn't know there is a federal shutdown.
If you didn't read the news you also wouldn't know who is president, if we were at war with anyone, or if your favourite football team won the game last night (unless you happened to be at the game).
That's why it's called the news.
There is literally no impact on regular Americans outside of DC.
And that is literally the dumbest and most ignorant statement I've seen on slashdot, and I browse at -1. Maybe you should actually read the news at some point. You'll see the affects of the shutdown are significant and go well beyond the people who have missed a paycheck right during peak credit card repayment season.
Software is buggy now, it was buggy then. The only difference is there's now a remote connection to your PC. Security was always poor.
RAM is cheaper but software just wastes more
One man's waste is another man's killer feature. You also have to remember that RAM being the fastest to access device in your computer can only offer you benefits if its fully utilised. In that regard RAM isn't "wasted" if what is in it at any point needs to be accessed, regardless of how much of it gets used.
CPUs are much faster but software is just slower to compensate.
Software is not slower at all. It still computes at the same speed. Software may do different things, often doing far more of it, often waiting on external input (rarely the CPU), and may render the result in an eye pleasing but slower manner, but it isn't "slower". Being slow implies a faster CPU would make it run faster. That isn't the case and software hasn't been CPU constrained for years.
Bandwidth is overpriced as fuck.
I'm sorry but my 500mbit connection compared to my 56kbps modem which barely worked faster than 28.8 at the exact same price inflation adjusted could not disagree more.
Dishonesty runs rampant in the industry, causing permanent erosion of the public trust.
And despite all of my disagreements with your post, this comment here I can stand behind. This entire post is worthy of an upmod just for this sentence.
The paperless office works just fine. The criteria for it though is that the company you work for needs to not use Dilbert as it's primary strategic guide.
I think I printed a total of about 100 pages last year, and 50 of those were my resume. On the flipside my Outlook and OneDrive accounts have increased by many gigabytes.
Personally I can't even imagine owning the kind of houses my parents could afford back then.
Move to a city with the same population as your parents and you'll find houses at the same prices. Yeah my house cost double what my parent's did inflation taken into account. I also earn more, live closer to the city, and that same city has exactly doubled in population since 1980.
My house is also larger, as has been the trend of building McMansions int he past 30 years.
We still have the same roads and houses I had growing up in the 1980s.
Really? You had roads littered with electric chargers, virtual parking meters, advanced predictive traffic light management? Or are you just talking about the colour?
Likewise with your house, there have been leaps and strides in terms of energy efficiency, insulation, cooling, technology for smart home management and security. Or are you talking about that fact that it still is a set of walls with an angled roof?
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This all stems from the fact that Google gave developers too much control, and developers treated phones as if they were PCs instead of embedded mobile devices.
This is a counter to an argument that was never fully explored. The GP said "how does anybody manage all of that", the answer is people don't. The phone happily manages itself. No issue with developers or anything, the fact that the GP sees indecipherable processes in the first place or anything beyond a list of apps that he himself installed shows not that Google didn't restrict control, it shows that the GP is doing too much digging and tinkering rather than just using their device.
Now Android is in the completely expected position of trying to lock things down without breaking half the apps on the app store.
Again it's nothing of the sort. Android has handled this issue just fine for years. The problem is idiots telling people they need to micromanage their OS causing people to expect to have the micromanagement handed to them on a silver platter which leads to OEMs developing their custom garbage and utterly pointless systems which have a negative impact on the device.
The advice to force kill backgrounded apps for battery life has been wrong for 10 years, that hasn't reduced the amount of apps that are available for the express purpose of doing this.
It has tons of processes that are indecipherable. How does anybody manage all of that?
Easy answer. You don't. The fact that you even see the tons of processes means that you are not using the OS, you ARE the OS. Android will run perfectly fine with you ever seeing any process referenced which you didn't specifically install. This includes the topic at hand which is about apps being killed and nothing to do with indecipherable background processes that users never see.
Smaller and thicker phones with a decently thick battery.
Phones have been getting thicker and batteries have been getting larger consistently across models for the past 3 years. If you want an even thicker device, get yourself a battery boosting case and don't pretend like you speak for everyone.
Then the battery life is not 'superficially' extended, it is either extended or it isn't.
Splitting hairs will not help your cause. There are many apps that do background related tasks so infrequently that killing them has no more than a "superficial" improvement, which as the definition of the word implies it makes no difference at all to battery life.
Android does not have an internal task scheduler so apps need to suspend themselves in order to run tasks. While they are suspended they have practically no impact on the device.
We don't need that shit running in the background.
You never specified what is running in the background. You don't need a trigger service running in the background when you want to trigger on events? You don't need a syncing service running in the background when you want to automatically cloud sync?
Because that's the "shit" we're talking about. Samsung by default will kill both the Owncloud and IFTTT clients.
What I'd like is a simple BT receiver that handle HD codec
A dongle on the other end of the connection sounds like the worst of all worlds.
The argument about people wanting thinner phones is total bullshit.
Apple's thinnest phone had a 3.5mm jack. The first jack to drop the 3.5mm jack was 0.2mm thicker.
But you can always just dongle the dongle dongle and then enjoy all the dongling. It's called progress.
So, in other words, a complete repeat of every Bluetooth or USB audio adventure ever. No lessons learned.
Well the industry is used to this. I mean let's face it, it's not like the old 3.5mm plug worked universally. ... errr. oh wait yes it did.
without the decryption keys?
How do you get the decryption key without knowing for sure that someone isn't listening? I would propose a system like Quantum Key Distribution, I think I read about it once on Slashdot.
...why anyone would want to use biometric passcodes to unlock anything so private as a cell phone is today.
Because for nearly everyone in the world the biggest security risk is losing their phone and hoping that whoever finds it doesn't have automatic access to your Facebook account.
If you work for the CIA then you may have a differing opinion on that. Personally if you want my phone you can have it. Just don't delete any of the dickpicks. I'll even give you my passcode: 000000
I'd rather take my chances with "unsupported" Windows 7 (been running with automatic updates disabled for years)
Slashdot. Where anti-vaxxers are universally hated, except when we're talking about technology. Then they are "insightful".
It seems like the whole 5G rollout thing is becoming a bit of a mess
In what regard? It looks just like any other technology transition so far, and that even includes companies lying about their technology.
Better question: With phones no longer being yearly disposable devices does it make sense for Apple to continue to always adopt the latest modem last as they have done with all previous changes in technology? It may be far more than 1 year that you will be waiting.
It does seem that the U.S. is in somewhat of a manufacturing boom of late.
Does it? It would appear as though the entire car industry across the globe is just shuffling people around for the inevitable EV switch.
VW used to make a great product.
FTFY. I wouldn't touch VW with a 10foot pole and that has nothing to do with the diesel scandal. Their cars haven't been great or even deserving of the title "good" for a while now. German (or rather VW group specifically) manufacturing has gone massively downhill.
Damn. I was planning to make a terrorist attack but I don't want to fall afoul of the FAA guidelines for when I am allowed to use a drone.
I've jumped on the buzzword bandwagon and let AI manage it for me.
You jest, but as someone who was forced to use Outlook 365 the first thing I did was switch off that worthless "focused inbox" which appeared to take a guess at what I wanted to see at any given time.
this surgery could've just bee done with a wired connection over wifi
Of course it could have. And as a proof of concept how would this help a situation where wifi / wired connection does not exist?
Wireless is not a technology looking for a problem to solve. The problems are well known and are driving continued improvements in wireless.
Which of course, introduces the question, why use a 5g connection, or any wireless connection at all, when a wired connection using oh, fiber optic cabling, would be so much more reliable, not to mention faster in terms of both bandwidth and latency...
Why do you make a phone call on 4G right now instead of dragging a fibre cable around behind you? The premise of wireless is that wired connections are not always feasible. The reason for using 5G is bandwidth.
I need a receipt
What for?
If you didn't read the news, you wouldn't know there is a federal shutdown.
If you didn't read the news you also wouldn't know who is president, if we were at war with anyone, or if your favourite football team won the game last night (unless you happened to be at the game).
That's why it's called the news.
There is literally no impact on regular Americans outside of DC.
And that is literally the dumbest and most ignorant statement I've seen on slashdot, and I browse at -1. Maybe you should actually read the news at some point. You'll see the affects of the shutdown are significant and go well beyond the people who have missed a paycheck right during peak credit card repayment season.
Audio/hifi equipment is of poor quality.
You get what you pay for. The good quality equipment is still very much available if you ever wish to not paying Chinese import prices for it.
Security is worse.
Software is buggy now, it was buggy then. The only difference is there's now a remote connection to your PC. Security was always poor.
RAM is cheaper but software just wastes more
One man's waste is another man's killer feature. You also have to remember that RAM being the fastest to access device in your computer can only offer you benefits if its fully utilised. In that regard RAM isn't "wasted" if what is in it at any point needs to be accessed, regardless of how much of it gets used.
CPUs are much faster but software is just slower to compensate.
Software is not slower at all. It still computes at the same speed. Software may do different things, often doing far more of it, often waiting on external input (rarely the CPU), and may render the result in an eye pleasing but slower manner, but it isn't "slower". Being slow implies a faster CPU would make it run faster. That isn't the case and software hasn't been CPU constrained for years.
Bandwidth is overpriced as fuck.
I'm sorry but my 500mbit connection compared to my 56kbps modem which barely worked faster than 28.8 at the exact same price inflation adjusted could not disagree more.
Dishonesty runs rampant in the industry, causing permanent erosion of the public trust.
And despite all of my disagreements with your post, this comment here I can stand behind. This entire post is worthy of an upmod just for this sentence.
The paperless office works just fine. The criteria for it though is that the company you work for needs to not use Dilbert as it's primary strategic guide.
I think I printed a total of about 100 pages last year, and 50 of those were my resume. On the flipside my Outlook and OneDrive accounts have increased by many gigabytes.
Personally I can't even imagine owning the kind of houses my parents could afford back then.
Move to a city with the same population as your parents and you'll find houses at the same prices. Yeah my house cost double what my parent's did inflation taken into account. I also earn more, live closer to the city, and that same city has exactly doubled in population since 1980.
My house is also larger, as has been the trend of building McMansions int he past 30 years.
We still have the same roads and houses I had growing up in the 1980s.
Really? You had roads littered with electric chargers, virtual parking meters, advanced predictive traffic light management? Or are you just talking about the colour?
Likewise with your house, there have been leaps and strides in terms of energy efficiency, insulation, cooling, technology for smart home management and security. Or are you talking about that fact that it still is a set of walls with an angled roof?