Or maybe spend more than $2 at the discount theatre.
Personally, my theatre has a great sound system, stadium seating (tall guy not a problem, seats wide and comfy), never seen a laser pointer in my life, and I haven't heard a cell phone in ages (think that most people are clueing in these days).
Yes, here on Bizarro Earth, a single example of a few Americans caring about the environment easily trumps the counter-example of the vast majority of Americans--and is a logically valid argument too!
No, the logically invalid argument here is assuming that "caring" means "deprivation", that somehow you have to prove how much you care through some puritan "ethic of pain" (and I can't think of many things more painful than voting for Al Gore).
"Caring" means solving problems, not closing your eyes and pretending that the world is going to go backwards and conserve anything. Environmentalists almost universally distrust technology. They would rather wring their hands and "care more than thou" instead of actually doing something (e.g., the antinuclear nuts).
Yes, here on Bizarro Earth Americans are well known for their concern for the environment.
And then on Bizarro Earth Americans invent the technology to turn trash into crude oil.
Wait, you mean necessity breeds invention? Good Lord, what an idea. I thought that technology always stayed static until the sky fell.
Man, what next? Capitalism generally ends up taking care of problems? Nah, that couldn't be. I'm sure socialist countries that "care" about the environment had these problems solved a long time ago.
I'm going to have to agree with the parent. The concept of teachers evaluating students based on performance, effort, and ability is absurd. Next you know, they're going to start grouping these evaluations into categories and assingning them letters or something.
Apparently you didn't read the thread, so I don't know why I'm bothering replying, but no one talked about grades. We're talking about a teacher ripping students in the classroom and telling them, in essence, that it doesn't matter if they try in the future, they are destined to fail. That is completely different than saying (via grades), "This is how well you did on your past performance."
Pick a large-scale court case -- any large scale court case. How many mysterious suicides do you think we can find connected to it, just because of the sheer numbers of connected people? Suicide happens ALL THE TIME. And do you really think suicide always happens to people who are obvious raving lunatics? I'm reminded of that one teenage genius kid who was "happy and well adjusted" who recently committed suicide. It happens.
As I read it, the police themselves have requested that she publicly establish that she has no intention of commiting suicide.
PJ didn't specify who gave her that advice. If the police seriously thought her life was in danger, they would be opening an investigation. Either 1) she got that advice from some paranoid friends, or 2) the officials told her that to get her off the phone.
Being paranoid is in fact intelligent when you have the likes of SCOg attacking you. They're the types who'd sue their own customers to make money (Chrysler, et al).
Being paranoid is intelligent when you have the mob after you. Being paranoid that you're going to be murdered by SCO is just stupid.
They're the types who'd sue their own customers to make money (Chrysler, et al).
So you think that someone who would file a lawsuit is automatically capable of murder?
The kind that recognizes that everyone has limitations, and once you have made an honest effort to reach as high as you can, continued striving above your limitations benefits no one.
Everyone has limitations, but it's not for the teacher to judge who has them and who doesn't, because he can't. That fucker should be fired, if not put in jail. I wonder how many kids he screwed up with his smack down comments.
I also wonder how many kids would have done well with a more positive teacher, but now think they have "limitations" due to this teacher.
Ever hear of Coretta Scott King? If not, she is the widow of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. so what she says on the civil rights movement carries a bit more weight than a bunch of screaming "Christians" engaging in a reaction formation.
What??? I'm pro gay rights, but who gives a crap what the widow of MLK thinks?
Anyway, "Argument by authority" is a logic flaw. Citing an authority is not an argument.
Shouldn't it just be illegal to discriminate against anyone in hiring practices unless it's some criterion relevant to job performance?
The problem is that everything is arguably relevant to job performance. "I can't hire Joe because [blah blahs] might offend our customers, or might offend our employees."
Something things that are not directly relevant to the job DO matter. Personal cleanliness, for example. You can't just say everything, or an employee might say, "I should be able to never shower and stink, as long as I do my job."
There are a lot of things that can be said, but I think the biggest problem with design docs is that they aren't kept up-to-date.
If you're really serious about having useful design docs, the only way to do it is to have a dedicated staff whose job it is to keep it current, accurate and useful. Coders are rarely good writers, and even if they are, it's almost impossible to get them to keep docs in sync.
Yeah, because the groups in charge of environmental exploitation (mega-corporations and their pet congressmen) really care about preserving ecosystems for monocellular alien life that in all likelihood has never existed.
If you're cynical view was true, then there would be no environmental regulation at all. We'd have no national parks. They wouldn't be trying to reclaim the florida everglades. On and on. There is a reason for this (see below).
Humans squeezing out their survival on the pioneer DON'T care about environmentalism.
Pioneering is dead. You need two things to be a pioneer: 1) ability to live off the land, and 2) be able to hide what you're doing. The first planetary colony simply can't be self-sufficient, and it's a fantasy to think you can. And even if you could, 2) You'd never be able to hide what you're doing. If someone started trying to do it, Mars or whatever would simply be declared as owned by some or all countries of the world. Can't happen? Already has -- see Antarctica.
So you think they'll just go anyway with an attitude of "let them stop us"? You can't get off the ground without permission. And even if you could, you can't carry enough to be self-sufficient.
Now the reason governments will care about this is because of modern communication. If a sufficient proportion of the population cares about something, then politicians will care about it. That's why environmentalism has any traction -- because there are groups dedicated to making the population care. Once there is a possibility of a totally unique environment being totally contaminated, you will see a HUGE PR campaign to get any colony killed. Of course, they will phrase it as "temporary, until we study the planet more and make sure there isn't any life there", but it'll really be a permanent ban. Count on it.
then the same thing would have happened to Apple hardware.
Then why hasn't it? There are numerous companies that would LOVE to clone Apple's hardware, but so far Apple has managed to squash any attempts. Not to mention the O/S license agreement says it can only run on Apple hardware.
One such standard would be POSIX. Implemented by multiple operating systems, all in competition with each other.
Have you ever looked at the POSIX standard? Apparently not. POSIX is an incredibly weak standard, representing the least common demoninator when it comes to Unix. A modern operating system simply couldn't be implemented solely with POSIX.
Let's talk about graphics. X11, by itself, doesn't completely suck, but it sucks in a lot of ways -- fonts and speed, to name two. The higher level toolkits were terrible ten years ago. I suffered with Xt and Motif. Utter crap. Then we could talk about printing, objects, etc. Other standards existed, but they were either weak or not implemented. Windows won because they got software to market, and brought the developers on board.
Also remember that Unix was extremely slow in those days. XENIX was pathetic on a 286. Windows was written in assembly language. You needed to squeeze every ounce of power out of processors in those days. Unix simply couldn't have been the standard.
If Bill Gates never came along, then Apple might've won, and then we would have been stuck with an software AND hardware monopoly. Computers would cost $10,000, run 1/10th the speed, and only after much pain and suffering would Apple have been broken up.
Gates was GOOD for the industry. He "got it" (something Apple still hasn't) -- commodity hardware is good, and fosters a healthy software industry.
Like it or not, an operating system is a natural monopoly. *Something* would have won out. Software companies need a standard to write to.
There is no way we could've had a web platform a decade ago. Hell, a web platform might not be possible now, even with relatively common broadband. Not to mention that a web platform will suck for a lot of things. And let's not even talk about how screwed up Netscape was. Their software was HORRIBLE toward the end.
I think we should have "Muni-Sushi". Lots of people like Sushi, right? So why shouldn't cities pay to have Sushi available on every street corner for free?
And hey, if someone doesn't like Sushi and doesn't want to pay for other people's Sushi, screw 'em. And who cares about the Sushi businesses that go bankrupt -- they're just greedy corporate types that don't want to suppress the PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO FREE SUSHI! Damn corporations.
Well, Mars is a big rock, too. Everybody knows that we can go to Mars; that's why we DON'T go. Contradiction? Not at all -- there's no mystery about the trip, like there was going to the Moon. We didn't know if we could make it to the moon, so there was an adventure involved. Since we already know we can go to Mars, it's boring. It's an enormous expenditure of money and doesn't prove anything.
The other thing that space advocates don't understand is that we will NEVER have planetary colonies. Mark my words -- if it ever becomes realistic, it will be stopped because we'd be contaminating a native environment. Beyond that, it's probably going to be unhealthy to live in a low-grav environment.
The future of space colonization is space stations. Cheaper to build, cheaper to get to and from, unlimited room to build, and you can spin them for earth-like gravity. I say we should skip these planetary fantasies and skip to the end-game.
Yeah, because Howard Stern was allowed to say whatever he wanted, and there was _no_ hysterical reaction in the grand ol' US of A, huh? Or Janet Jackson...
Yeah, and I for one am glad they were thrown in jail.
This was a very interesting point for them to make, not least because I would wager that there are a substantial number of people on MGM s side of the case who don t think that example is one bit legal.
Show me one official instance where anyone has claimed that ripped CDs for personal use is not legal. I HATE when people on the other side exaggerate (and apparently flat-out lie) just to score points.
Personally, my theatre has a great sound system, stadium seating (tall guy not a problem, seats wide and comfy), never seen a laser pointer in my life, and I haven't heard a cell phone in ages (think that most people are clueing in these days).
As for pausing the movie, get an attention span.
No, the logically invalid argument here is assuming that "caring" means "deprivation", that somehow you have to prove how much you care through some puritan "ethic of pain" (and I can't think of many things more painful than voting for Al Gore).
"Caring" means solving problems, not closing your eyes and pretending that the world is going to go backwards and conserve anything. Environmentalists almost universally distrust technology. They would rather wring their hands and "care more than thou" instead of actually doing something (e.g., the antinuclear nuts).
And then on Bizarro Earth Americans invent the technology to turn trash into crude oil.
Wait, you mean necessity breeds invention? Good Lord, what an idea. I thought that technology always stayed static until the sky fell.
Man, what next? Capitalism generally ends up taking care of problems? Nah, that couldn't be. I'm sure socialist countries that "care" about the environment had these problems solved a long time ago.
Apparently you didn't read the thread, so I don't know why I'm bothering replying, but no one talked about grades. We're talking about a teacher ripping students in the classroom and telling them, in essence, that it doesn't matter if they try in the future, they are destined to fail. That is completely different than saying (via grades), "This is how well you did on your past performance."
As I read it, the police themselves have requested that she publicly establish that she has no intention of commiting suicide.
PJ didn't specify who gave her that advice. If the police seriously thought her life was in danger, they would be opening an investigation. Either 1) she got that advice from some paranoid friends, or 2) the officials told her that to get her off the phone.
Being paranoid is intelligent when you have the mob after you. Being paranoid that you're going to be murdered by SCO is just stupid.
They're the types who'd sue their own customers to make money (Chrysler, et al).
So you think that someone who would file a lawsuit is automatically capable of murder?
Show me exactly how was murdered by SCO. It's complete bullshit.
Paranoia is not intelligence. In fact, her posting that she might undergo a mysterious "suicide" is plain silliness.
There's a reason that it's never happened. It's cultural.
Everyone has limitations, but it's not for the teacher to judge who has them and who doesn't, because he can't. That fucker should be fired, if not put in jail. I wonder how many kids he screwed up with his smack down comments.
I also wonder how many kids would have done well with a more positive teacher, but now think they have "limitations" due to this teacher.
Gah, that's maddening.
Can't be worse than Quicktime for Windows.
What??? I'm pro gay rights, but who gives a crap what the widow of MLK thinks?
Anyway, "Argument by authority" is a logic flaw. Citing an authority is not an argument.
The problem is that everything is arguably relevant to job performance. "I can't hire Joe because [blah blahs] might offend our customers, or might offend our employees."
Something things that are not directly relevant to the job DO matter. Personal cleanliness, for example. You can't just say everything, or an employee might say, "I should be able to never shower and stink, as long as I do my job."
If you're really serious about having useful design docs, the only way to do it is to have a dedicated staff whose job it is to keep it current, accurate and useful. Coders are rarely good writers, and even if they are, it's almost impossible to get them to keep docs in sync.
Java Version, though you need a key. :)
If you're cynical view was true, then there would be no environmental regulation at all. We'd have no national parks. They wouldn't be trying to reclaim the florida everglades. On and on. There is a reason for this (see below).
Humans squeezing out their survival on the pioneer DON'T care about environmentalism.
Pioneering is dead. You need two things to be a pioneer: 1) ability to live off the land, and 2) be able to hide what you're doing. The first planetary colony simply can't be self-sufficient, and it's a fantasy to think you can. And even if you could, 2) You'd never be able to hide what you're doing. If someone started trying to do it, Mars or whatever would simply be declared as owned by some or all countries of the world. Can't happen? Already has -- see Antarctica.
So you think they'll just go anyway with an attitude of "let them stop us"? You can't get off the ground without permission. And even if you could, you can't carry enough to be self-sufficient.
Now the reason governments will care about this is because of modern communication. If a sufficient proportion of the population cares about something, then politicians will care about it. That's why environmentalism has any traction -- because there are groups dedicated to making the population care. Once there is a possibility of a totally unique environment being totally contaminated, you will see a HUGE PR campaign to get any colony killed. Of course, they will phrase it as "temporary, until we study the planet more and make sure there isn't any life there", but it'll really be a permanent ban. Count on it.
Then why hasn't it? There are numerous companies that would LOVE to clone Apple's hardware, but so far Apple has managed to squash any attempts. Not to mention the O/S license agreement says it can only run on Apple hardware. One such standard would be POSIX. Implemented by multiple operating systems, all in competition with each other.
Have you ever looked at the POSIX standard? Apparently not. POSIX is an incredibly weak standard, representing the least common demoninator when it comes to Unix. A modern operating system simply couldn't be implemented solely with POSIX.
Let's talk about graphics. X11, by itself, doesn't completely suck, but it sucks in a lot of ways -- fonts and speed, to name two. The higher level toolkits were terrible ten years ago. I suffered with Xt and Motif. Utter crap. Then we could talk about printing, objects, etc. Other standards existed, but they were either weak or not implemented. Windows won because they got software to market, and brought the developers on board.
Also remember that Unix was extremely slow in those days. XENIX was pathetic on a 286. Windows was written in assembly language. You needed to squeeze every ounce of power out of processors in those days. Unix simply couldn't have been the standard.
Gates was GOOD for the industry. He "got it" (something Apple still hasn't) -- commodity hardware is good, and fosters a healthy software industry.
Like it or not, an operating system is a natural monopoly. *Something* would have won out. Software companies need a standard to write to.
There is no way we could've had a web platform a decade ago. Hell, a web platform might not be possible now, even with relatively common broadband. Not to mention that a web platform will suck for a lot of things. And let's not even talk about how screwed up Netscape was. Their software was HORRIBLE toward the end.
And hey, if someone doesn't like Sushi and doesn't want to pay for other people's Sushi, screw 'em. And who cares about the Sushi businesses that go bankrupt -- they're just greedy corporate types that don't want to suppress the PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO FREE SUSHI! Damn corporations.
The other thing that space advocates don't understand is that we will NEVER have planetary colonies. Mark my words -- if it ever becomes realistic, it will be stopped because we'd be contaminating a native environment. Beyond that, it's probably going to be unhealthy to live in a low-grav environment.
The future of space colonization is space stations. Cheaper to build, cheaper to get to and from, unlimited room to build, and you can spin them for earth-like gravity. I say we should skip these planetary fantasies and skip to the end-game.
That's because all of your countries are the size of one of our football stadiums.
Yeah, and I for one am glad they were thrown in jail.
Oh wait...
This was a very interesting point for them to make, not least because I would wager that there are a substantial number of people on MGM s side of the case who don t think that example is one bit legal.
Show me one official instance where anyone has claimed that ripped CDs for personal use is not legal. I HATE when people on the other side exaggerate (and apparently flat-out lie) just to score points.
Now how many multimillionaires have been created with a label? [Oh wait, they don't exist, according to Slashdot Group Think]
Hopefully the answer of what you should do is obvious. If you don't want to get ripped off, then a good entertainment attorney and a good agent.
I'm ashamed to say that I laughed out loud at that.