I agree with everything you said, and am also amazed that the media, and educated people do not get this at all.
To add one more point: perhaps this incident was China's way to do unto us what we did unto the Soviet Union? If we restart a cold war mentality with corresponding increases in spending, then we will bankrupt ourselves (more so than we are already doing now anyway) just like the Soviet Union did. So long as we give China a butt load of our own money in bonds and in interest payments, there is no way for us to win.
Perhaps to see if they could get away with it? Trying that during a Navy exercise would be the perfect opportunity to see if they could get that close undetected. If they do get detected, since it is an exercise it would be likely they wouldnt be sunk (assuming no live ammo in exercises)
On the flip side, trying that during real operations would probably be more dire.
They are often terrible at forging consensus among competing interests or finding workable compromises, and they have no skill at all with using social myths to hold interest groups together. Often they're intellectual imperialists, and would cheerfully jam The Truth (whatever they see it to be) down everyone's throat by force in the misguided belief that all disagreement is merely the result of ignorance, and can be cured by a little (force-fed if necessary) education.
Other than the part of social myths (which I agree with, but don't think that is necessary or even desirable) this entire passage can be applied to Republicans, neocons, religious fundamentalists, and the current administration. I don't see how scientists could do an even worse job.
Fact is, humans specialize, and people good in one field (politics or science) are generally awful in another. Yes, politicians are typically stupid when it comes to science, and a debate like this would expose that, for all of us better-informed about science to have a good laugh.
The current situation appears to me that politicians, who as you say are generally awful in science, are making decisions by not only ignoring science, but are rewriting the reports of scientific experiments and studies to fit their own views. I am not sure why having scientists who are awful at politics could do any worse.
The only situation where scientists could royally screw up may be in diplomacy, where it is important to walk the line between being reasonable and tough in negotiations, but I dont think the current administration thinks much of negotiations and diplomacy, and concentrates solely on the acting tough part, with disastrous, and predictable, results.
Who do you think would cause World War III (as Bush is beginning to mention these days)? A scientist or a Republican/neocon?
I believe that is the true injustice promulgated by the Republicans the last 7 years. Might makes right. Whats good for me isn't good for you. The media doesn't press the administration hard enough when it says, sometimes in the same breath, "We need to monitor you (citizens) for your protection and for national security" and "We won't suffer oversight or monitoring of our meetings or conversations because it would discourage candid advice"
In the end, however, it is we the people who are at fault for voting these people into office. First time may or may not have been a mistake, but this administration got re-elected.
Your first spelling error (conveniently) makes me think your use of discrete, while hilarious, is unintentional. Either way, very funny! (I'm not being sarcastic)
I would mod this Insightful actually. Believe me I'm about as nerdy as they come about embedded hardware, but after reading the summary the one thing that shouted out in my mind was what exactly were the crows doing?? Did the poster not think that a bit relevant at all to include?
Wouldnt this be the most charitable thing to say for our current Prez?
Cheney and the rest of the neo-cons have no such illusions, they just want to accumulate power and wealth. I'm sure Bush was sold something quite like bedtime stories by Cheney and others that invading Iraq and spreading democracy would make him (Bush) a hero, a true leader of the free world.
I think the Republican party (as well as hard-right religious conservatives) is more prone to this, which would be laughable if it didnt adversely affect all of us.
But for a while now I've taken it on faith that when i withdraw $100 in $20 bills I get 5 bills. I take the money and stuff it in my wallet without counting it, mostly because sometimes I withdraw from not the safest neighborhoods and I don't want to be standing around flashing cash while I count.
Does this mean that if I am guilty of being lazy/preoccupied/safety conscious and not count my money after withdrawal I could go to jail?
Much as I agree with your sentiment, I must say I am happy with my 1994 626. For the most part, things haven't fallen apart (except a muffler) and it's still going strong.
Pretty soon they will be believing whatever their overlords the Chinese want them to believe. If they thought liberal professors espousing natural selection was bad, think what the Commies would have them believe, that it was Mao that created humanity or somesuch.
I'm all for people who clamor for "states' rights," so long as we do away with most federal taxes and up the state taxes. I'm not going to prejudge you or where you are from, but I've found that most people who are for "states' rights" are from states that are not that populated, and thus get more in federal tax revenue than they contribute. ie. all rural folk who complain about city slickers and "just want to be left alone" are in fact being subsidized by the same city slickers they despise so much. New York, Massachusetts, California, (blue states, btw) all pay more in federal taxes than they get back in federal services.
So go ahead, weaken federal government and the concept of a UNITED states. Just dont expect urban folk to continue paying for your federal services.
To follow the guy's logic, if we are to treat creative works like property, the federal/state governments should be able to tax the hell out of them for the public good. Like property taxes are often used to shore up deficits, or pay for public education, we should tax copyright holders on any income or royalty they make, in addition to the income taxes they pay now.
If his reduces taxes on the rest of us, I'm all for it! Following this author's ridiculous logic to its natural conclusion, we will kill all innovation, but hey, so long as we stop this "unfair inequality" he whines about.
I'm not going to speculate on what political affiliation this poster has, but that is a common Republican line, "yes we did some heinous things, but look, so do Democrats, so we are all the same"
I wonder when the last time any of us geeks ever bothered to walk up to a tv to turn it on, instead of using the remote (or a robot configured to use its IR transmitter to emulate a remote)
This is exactly why I think this kid's essay shouldnt be cause for a disorderly conduct charge. He didnt specifically threaten the teacher. He should certainly have a psychiatric evaluation, but arrest? no way.
Sadly, your scenario is all too likely to happen in this country today.
I think it very interesting that the article mentions he wants to join the Marines. I bet they would love to have him!
BTW I used to work with Marines, (in an office setting), and while they are very professional during work, they probably identify more with this guy than his teacher.
Uh, not that I disagree with your points, but isnt that what many Democrats (not the chicken politicians, but citizens) believed before the war? Give the UN inspectors a chance, Hussein is being contained, etc. etc.
It's an indication of how far right this country has become that what the true left believes is the "middle ground"
Isn't part of this what a lot of people say is required to have a "fair and balanced" discussion? No matter that there is a preponderance of evidence in one direction (global warming, evolution, Russian chaos) there must be a "fair and balanced" accounting.
I find it interesting we are quick to criticize other countries for their supposed failings while we engage in pretty much the same thing.
very good point! LLC means limited liability company, not a corporation, but your point is still valid.
I guess the fact that without the limited liability I could conceivably (as opposed to likely) be sued for personal assets scares me senseless. In that way I'm pretty risk averse.
I have a great deal of faith that someone somewhere will find some way to find fault with my software and sue me. Plus I may want to branch out into small hobby circuit boards which may more likely cause injury---I guess you can slip and fall over a circuit board:)
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I agree with everything you said, and am also amazed that the media, and educated people do not get this at all.
To add one more point: perhaps this incident was China's way to do unto us what we did unto the Soviet Union? If we restart a cold war mentality with corresponding increases in spending, then we will bankrupt ourselves (more so than we are already doing now anyway) just like the Soviet Union did. So long as we give China a butt load of our own money in bonds and in interest payments, there is no way for us to win.
Perhaps to see if they could get away with it? Trying that during a Navy exercise would be the perfect opportunity to see if they could get that close undetected. If they do get detected, since it is an exercise it would be likely they wouldnt be sunk (assuming no live ammo in exercises)
On the flip side, trying that during real operations would probably be more dire.
Welcome to the Republican Party!
seriously though Democrats are almost as worse, I don't know if they are marginally more moral or less competent.
Since chemistry sets kill people, not people, logically it follows that the following should also be banned/neutered
...
1) Guns
2) Computers
3) Fertilizer
4) Cars and Trucks
5)
Other than the part of social myths (which I agree with, but don't think that is necessary or even desirable) this entire passage can be applied to Republicans, neocons, religious fundamentalists, and the current administration. I don't see how scientists could do an even worse job.
The current situation appears to me that politicians, who as you say are generally awful in science, are making decisions by not only ignoring science, but are rewriting the reports of scientific experiments and studies to fit their own views. I am not sure why having scientists who are awful at politics could do any worse.
The only situation where scientists could royally screw up may be in diplomacy, where it is important to walk the line between being reasonable and tough in negotiations, but I dont think the current administration thinks much of negotiations and diplomacy, and concentrates solely on the acting tough part, with disastrous, and predictable, results.
Who do you think would cause World War III (as Bush is beginning to mention these days)? A scientist or a Republican/neocon?
I believe that is the true injustice promulgated by the Republicans the last 7 years. Might makes right. Whats good for me isn't good for you. The media doesn't press the administration hard enough when it says, sometimes in the same breath, "We need to monitor you (citizens) for your protection and for national security" and "We won't suffer oversight or monitoring of our meetings or conversations because it would discourage candid advice"
In the end, however, it is we the people who are at fault for voting these people into office. First time may or may not have been a mistake, but this administration got re-elected.
Your first spelling error (conveniently) makes me think your use of discrete, while hilarious, is unintentional. Either way, very funny! (I'm not being sarcastic)
I would mod this Insightful actually. Believe me I'm about as nerdy as they come about embedded hardware, but after reading the summary the one thing that shouted out in my mind was what exactly were the crows doing?? Did the poster not think that a bit relevant at all to include?
Now I have to go to TFA
This runs counter to the proliferation of large plasma and lcd hdtv's, which came out sooner than in the US.
Still, the main point is probably true. TV's may be large in Japan, but computers and game consoles must be small
Wouldnt this be the most charitable thing to say for our current Prez?
Cheney and the rest of the neo-cons have no such illusions, they just want to accumulate power and wealth. I'm sure Bush was sold something quite like bedtime stories by Cheney and others that invading Iraq and spreading democracy would make him (Bush) a hero, a true leader of the free world.
I think the Republican party (as well as hard-right religious conservatives) is more prone to this, which would be laughable if it didnt adversely affect all of us.
But for a while now I've taken it on faith that when i withdraw $100 in $20 bills I get 5 bills. I take the money and stuff it in my wallet without counting it, mostly because sometimes I withdraw from not the safest neighborhoods and I don't want to be standing around flashing cash while I count.
Does this mean that if I am guilty of being lazy/preoccupied/safety conscious and not count my money after withdrawal I could go to jail?
Umm it's been ages since I took any astronomy course, but I thought Kepler figured out that *our* orbit was elliptical?
I assume the article meant "elliptical" in the qualitative sense, that their orbits "looked" like ellipses while our orbit "looks" like a circle.
Much as I agree with your sentiment, I must say I am happy with my 1994 626. For the most part, things haven't fallen apart (except a muffler) and it's still going strong.
Pretty soon they will be believing whatever their overlords the Chinese want them to believe. If they thought liberal professors espousing natural selection was bad, think what the Commies would have them believe, that it was Mao that created humanity or somesuch.
I'm all for people who clamor for "states' rights," so long as we do away with most federal taxes and up the state taxes. I'm not going to prejudge you or where you are from, but I've found that most people who are for "states' rights" are from states that are not that populated, and thus get more in federal tax revenue than they contribute. ie. all rural folk who complain about city slickers and "just want to be left alone" are in fact being subsidized by the same city slickers they despise so much. New York, Massachusetts, California, (blue states, btw) all pay more in federal taxes than they get back in federal services.
So go ahead, weaken federal government and the concept of a UNITED states. Just dont expect urban folk to continue paying for your federal services.
To follow the guy's logic, if we are to treat creative works like property, the federal/state governments should be able to tax the hell out of them for the public good. Like property taxes are often used to shore up deficits, or pay for public education, we should tax copyright holders on any income or royalty they make, in addition to the income taxes they pay now.
If his reduces taxes on the rest of us, I'm all for it! Following this author's ridiculous logic to its natural conclusion, we will kill all innovation, but hey, so long as we stop this "unfair inequality" he whines about.
I think the world would be a significantly better place if more people were happier looking at breasts than waging war.
I'm not a "make love not war" hippie, but in this current example I think it fits.
I'm not going to speculate on what political affiliation this poster has, but that is a common Republican line, "yes we did some heinous things, but look, so do Democrats, so we are all the same"
I wonder when the last time any of us geeks ever bothered to walk up to a tv to turn it on, instead of using the remote (or a robot configured to use its IR transmitter to emulate a remote)
This is exactly why I think this kid's essay shouldnt be cause for a disorderly conduct charge. He didnt specifically threaten the teacher. He should certainly have a psychiatric evaluation, but arrest? no way.
Sadly, your scenario is all too likely to happen in this country today.
I think it very interesting that the article mentions he wants to join the Marines. I bet they would love to have him!
BTW I used to work with Marines, (in an office setting), and while they are very professional during work, they probably identify more with this guy than his teacher.
Uh, not that I disagree with your points, but isnt that what many Democrats (not the chicken politicians, but citizens) believed before the war? Give the UN inspectors a chance, Hussein is being contained, etc. etc.
It's an indication of how far right this country has become that what the true left believes is the "middle ground"
This reminds me of a retail cd drive that came with no printed installation instructions, the manual was on a CD.
Isn't part of this what a lot of people say is required to have a "fair and balanced" discussion? No matter that there is a preponderance of evidence in one direction (global warming, evolution, Russian chaos) there must be a "fair and balanced" accounting.
I find it interesting we are quick to criticize other countries for their supposed failings while we engage in pretty much the same thing.
very good point! LLC means limited liability company, not a corporation, but your point is still valid.
:)
I guess the fact that without the limited liability I could conceivably (as opposed to likely) be sued for personal assets scares me senseless. In that way I'm pretty risk averse.
I have a great deal of faith that someone somewhere will find some way to find fault with my software and sue me. Plus I may want to branch out into small hobby circuit boards which may more likely cause injury---I guess you can slip and fall over a circuit board