I don't think you understand the point and basis of using GIS combined with this type of data: performance measurement.
Anecdotal evidence is fine for a beat cop, but the decision makers in the department (or those FUNDING the police department) who make allocation decisions never get that information. I think more importandly is measuring SUCESS of the increased patrols in a meaningful way. People UNDERSTAND if you show them two maps of their neighborhood and if the violent crime indicator went from "DEEP RED" to a "Pleasent Peach"... or if the red migrated to some other neighborhood.
GIGO (garbage in garbage out) if you are using crappy maps with crappy data, how could one expect a positive outcome? If the department you were doing analysis/studies for purchased 3 different systems and "attempted to find a use" then that's indicative of other internal and process issues, that of course GIS won't magically fix. GIS is a tool not a panacea. Give a monkey a hammer it won't build a house (unless that's one talented monkey!)
*shrug* YMMV and it's not for every sized city, but there's a visualization power that comes when meaningful data is presented well through competent GIS maps.
It doesn't solve crimes for the officers, but it might help justify highering more officers, more specific patrol/equipment types, and measuring the quality of the enforcement (your tax dollars at work)
E.
PS It looks like my eyes glazed over at the initial article where they mentioned mapping =P mea culpa
I hope they implement some sort of GIS/mapping solution (no not google image search) to make all that data more useful/presentable.
That's one thing that NYC did right in lowering their crime rate/"cleaning up the streets". They'd did very simple mappings of WHERE and WHEN crimes would occur (turns out there was a pattern... they'd show up to one complex every night just after dark with all sorts of calls)... and increase patrols in those areas during those times. Thereby using their available forces more efficiently by using the data they already had more effectively.
*shrug* It's not just about instant access to relevant information for the officers, it's what they do with it... (for good or bad) =)
On a serious note: google is very tight lipped about what services they will be launching (until after they launch/beta) so not sure how credible these rumblings are...
"The Union of Concerned Scientists says the Bush administration manipulates and suppresses science. The administration points out that the Union of Bought and Paid for Scientists disagrees"
huh... that's weird... Battery life on my transmeta based T-1000 from compaq/hp has like 4/5 hours of life. Although now the latest model uses an intel mobile chip... harumph! t1100
Here's why I chose the tablet I did.
It was a TRUE tablet, not just these pansy convertibles. I could disconnect the keyboard completely not just fold it over.
Built in wifi (should be a given for any tablet but wasn't at the time of purchase)
Light and sexy form factor.
Ample ram / chipspeed
Here's what I didn't like:
Tablet edition of windows XP feels like a desktop os shoe horned in with scribble recognition/etc into the tablet. It "feels" like a PC with a Pen instead of a tablet (if that makes sense --> haven't put linux on it... yet...)
The screen on this model sucks ass in the sunlight, near useless (which is what we wanted it for -- mobile, outdoors GPS/GIS w/wifi... no love there if you can't see the screen)
if you do use the keyboard, it's counter weighted funny... the screen is heavier than the tablet portion so unless you put the screen at a 90 degree angle it's top heavy and prone to tipping over (or worse *gulp*)
We were kinda hoping to use it as an "uber" handheld, but found it was more an "uber" portable laptop with scribbling enabled.
*shrug* ymmv but figured some of those thoughts would help. Good luck!
#### Of course an article/posting on debianhelp.org is going to say that its the fastest growing distro. Relying on that information is like relying on the Microsoft TCO numbers from an "independant" research company. ####
touche,
but more importantly there *is* some signifigance in that it was in the google first "I feel lucky" spot/rank.
In this case, I'm calling google the authority (somewhat tongue and cheek). At the very minimum it means people are talking about debian, fastest growing linux et al in the same sentence/page/context AND linking to the page/site I referenced earlier, with similiar text in some sort of quantity and/or quality.
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I could just do wacky stuff like live in a house made out of cantelope... accuse chestnuts of being lazy... buy out heinz and change the label to 56 varietys... ah. the possibilities would be endless! I'd never be out of the tabloids =P
wait a minute... it sounds like i want to be strongbad with a bankroll, that's not quite right. I'll have to rethink this.
from the obvious department Newest electronics short on simplicity *shrug* of course if it's too complicated, you might be too old (think blinking 12:00 on a vcr at your parents/grandparents house)
I saw a headline that went Gxxx xx xxx Gxxxxx Wxxd and immediately thought it was an article about Girls Gone Wild...
e.
Internet Help Desk skit (it's in quicktime)
It's mildly amusing, but there is grains of truth in the humor...
e.
That the pocket protector will come back in style!
e.
... can I get a sticker that says, "SCO Inside" ?
or maybe a paper certificate that says, "I paid to license SCO's UNIX IP and all I got was this lousy certificate"
e.
I don't think you understand the point and basis of using GIS combined with this type of data: performance measurement.
Anecdotal evidence is fine for a beat cop, but the decision makers in the department (or those FUNDING the police department) who make allocation decisions never get that information. I think more importandly is measuring SUCESS of the increased patrols in a meaningful way. People UNDERSTAND if you show them two maps of their neighborhood and if the violent crime indicator went from "DEEP RED" to a "Pleasent Peach"... or if the red migrated to some other neighborhood.
GIGO (garbage in garbage out) if you are using crappy maps with crappy data, how could one expect a positive outcome? If the department you were doing analysis/studies for purchased 3 different systems and "attempted to find a use" then that's indicative of other internal and process issues, that of course GIS won't magically fix. GIS is a tool not a panacea. Give a monkey a hammer it won't build a house (unless that's one talented monkey!)
*shrug* YMMV and it's not for every sized city, but there's a visualization power that comes when meaningful data is presented well through competent GIS maps.
It doesn't solve crimes for the officers, but it might help justify highering more officers, more specific patrol/equipment types, and measuring the quality of the enforcement (your tax dollars at work)
E.
PS It looks like my eyes glazed over at the initial article where they mentioned mapping =P mea culpa
I hope they implement some sort of GIS/mapping solution (no not google image search) to make all that data more useful/presentable.
That's one thing that NYC did right in lowering their crime rate/"cleaning up the streets". They'd did very simple mappings of WHERE and WHEN crimes would occur (turns out there was a pattern... they'd show up to one complex every night just after dark with all sorts of calls)... and increase patrols in those areas during those times. Thereby using their available forces more efficiently by using the data they already had more effectively.
*shrug* It's not just about instant access to relevant information for the officers, it's what they do with it... (for good or bad) =)
E.
You're right... sorry about that, I didn't have a chance to read the previous article I was alluding and was jumping to cynical conclusions...
Disegard... move along people nothing to see here...
e.
loismustdie@google.com
On a serious note: google is very tight lipped about what services they will be launching (until after they launch/beta) so not sure how credible these rumblings are...
E.
*Shrug* didn't intel just declare that bluetooth was dead? But hey don't mourn, we've got wireless USB ready to help console you...
I guess I needed some new peripherals anyways...
e.
reminds me of the old fishdot.org bit on star wars liquors. Unfortunately it's no more so here's a wayback machine look at it
*Shrug*
e.
Fark had the best headline for this:
"The Union of Concerned Scientists says the Bush administration manipulates and suppresses science. The administration points out that the Union of Bought and Paid for Scientists disagrees"
I almost forgot, It's handy for playing vertical mame games flipped on it's side. I plug a usb port and go nuts with galaga =P
I've contemplated putting counter-strike on there for headshot's with the stylus/pen, but bet steam would suck on it.
*shrug*
e.
huh... that's weird... Battery life on my transmeta based T-1000 from compaq/hp has like 4/5 hours of life. Although now the latest model uses an intel mobile chip... harumph! t1100
Here's why I chose the tablet I did.
It was a TRUE tablet, not just these pansy convertibles. I could disconnect the keyboard completely not just fold it over.
Built in wifi (should be a given for any tablet but wasn't at the time of purchase)
Light and sexy form factor.
Ample ram / chipspeed
Here's what I didn't like:
Tablet edition of windows XP feels like a desktop os shoe horned in with scribble recognition/etc into the tablet. It "feels" like a PC with a Pen instead of a tablet (if that makes sense --> haven't put linux on it... yet...)
The screen on this model sucks ass in the sunlight, near useless (which is what we wanted it for -- mobile, outdoors GPS/GIS w/wifi... no love there if you can't see the screen)
if you do use the keyboard, it's counter weighted funny... the screen is heavier than the tablet portion so unless you put the screen at a 90 degree angle it's top heavy and prone to tipping over (or worse *gulp*)
We were kinda hoping to use it as an "uber" handheld, but found it was more an "uber" portable laptop with scribbling enabled.
*shrug* ymmv but figured some of those thoughts would help. Good luck!
E.
####
Of course an article/posting on debianhelp.org is going to say that its the fastest growing distro. Relying on that information is like relying on the Microsoft TCO numbers from an "independant" research company.
####
touche,
but more importantly there *is* some signifigance in that it was in the google first "I feel lucky" spot/rank.
In this case, I'm calling google the authority (somewhat tongue and cheek). At the very minimum it means people are talking about debian, fastest growing linux et al in the same sentence/page/context AND linking to the page/site I referenced earlier, with similiar text in some sort of quantity and/or quality.
*shrug* but you knew that, right?
e.
It's Debian *shrug*
:: debianHELP ... ... We use GNU! We use GNU... ..do you?! Debian is the fastest growing GNU/Linux ...
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KnoppMyth
Practically a linux PVR on a bootable CD...
E.
Excellent Point (I thought the same thing) don't have the mod points to give ya pal though...
cheers
The music in porn? What if you file share that!?
Wah guitar at it's baunt chicka baunt bauw finest!
IIRC they actually released a compilation CD of tracks from "famous" 70's/80's porn... the ron jeremy shuffle if you will.
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I could just do wacky stuff like live in a house made out of cantelope... accuse chestnuts of being lazy... buy out heinz and change the label to 56 varietys... ah. the possibilities would be endless! I'd never be out of the tabloids =P
wait a minute... it sounds like i want to be strongbad with a bankroll, that's not quite right. I'll have to rethink this.
e.
great links, thanks... made my day!
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Can my email get the "true coat" undercarriage protectant as well?
e.
They need a security hole that fixes the ..." buffering... buffering... buffering..."
e
It should be "Shave and a Haircut, 2 Bits"
Does this remind anyone of Close Encounters if there was some musical visual interface to manually select the port numbers/sequence?
*shrug*
e.
from the obvious department Newest electronics short on simplicity *shrug* of course if it's too complicated, you might be too old (think blinking 12:00 on a vcr at your parents/grandparents house)
e.
because they probably:
A: traded in there PSone towards the purchase of the ps2
B: traded in there PSone to pay for some new fangled PS2 game
Decided to keep the better games in their PS1 library..
*shrug*
E.