That's 6 months I was vulnerable, when I could have come up with a work around or used extra caution in my job in order to make sure any of the machines I'm reponsible for didn't get hacked.
Hey, kudos to Microsoft for being able to keep this away from the skr1p7 k1dd13z and all, but next time we might not be so lucky. Lady Luck tends to become one fickle bitch now and again.
"ASN.1 is really an extremely deep...technology in Windows itself," he said. "This investigation required us to evaluate several different aspects. This is an instance where we really had to do our due diligence."
Name me an instance where "really doing due dilligence" vis-a-vis security is an option, like this guy makes it sound. Just one.
Please tell me Microsoft is not as inept as this. Please?
NT for Alpha had no long pointers and the same 4GB memory limit etc. as its IA32 counterpart. The processor was certainly 64 bits, but the OS was 32 bits at it's core. IIRC there were some places where they had to use 64 in order to get the thing to load, but not where it counted.
If Microsoft had actually used the Alpha to it's fullest potential, all of my servers would likely be runnning 21464s, not Xeons.
Yes, I'm still mad at DEC/Compaq/HP for squandering the Alpha tech. *grumble*
I always thought doctors were supposed to be smart.
I thought the same about my fellow geeks. To wit:
Unless you got stuck being an anusologist, stay with medicine.
Anusologist? I believe proctologist is the correct term - google is your friend.
Actually, I think SCO could realy, really use a computer person who is also a skilled proctologist - that way someone would be there to remove Darl's head from his ass.
How about introducing our principles in an even handed manner, as well as taking into consideration the needs of others.
"Thank you for the driver, nVidia. We'll use it, but it would be that much better if you open sourced it. Yes, we can help you keep that valuable IP from ATI, too, if that matters."
What if Darl likes being spanked? Given he became CEO of a sinking company and started a legal fight with IBM, he could very well be a masochist, you know.
Anyone else think the disruption is a bit out of place in their motto?
I think they're referring to "Disruptive Technologies", like the Web or Linux, where something comes along that causes a sea change in the IT industry. It's basically saying "we intend to generate buzzwords for the PHBs, not just follow them."
There have been a few times in the past where an entrenched technology has hit a wall in functionality, but because it was entrenched no one really did anything about it.
Then, someone said "Fuck standards - I have to DO something about this!" and started pushing thier solution. Other saw that someone was willing to take the first step, and took a step themselves. After some shakeouts, a new, more functional standard emerged.
My hope is that Yahoo has started the "SPAM proof MTA" development war for real this time. I want my e-mail system back.
"The next big thing isn't the next gizmo or killer app or hot box. Customers want all this to work together and they want a seamless approach. We're very much going to make sure that the Microsoft and Apple worlds work together. That's part of the power we bring to this thing."
meaning HP is treating Microsoft as just another supplier, where Dell can't.
So, IMHO, because HPs CEO has more balls;^D than Dell's CEO, they're willing to go against "industry standards", namely anything Microsoft tries to cram down thier throats, and give customers what they want.
Windows is not about choice - it is about having developers and service providers further entrench the Windows hegonomy, with little to no effort on the part of MS.
HP made a choice, as the market seems to be doing as well.
Let's see how well Microsoft lives with this.
Oh, and to all of you who say "Watch how high the price of Windows goes for HP", Microsoft won't dare do anything of the sort. Having both IBM and HP actively looking to kill Windows is not something Microsoft shareholders would appreciate.
Take off the tinfoil hat, dude. Checking all pics on the net for steganographic info is virtually impossible - just too much info to sort through in a reasonable time frame.
They likley want this to scan documents leaving thier internal network in an attempt to catch people who are sending out sensitive or secret info. To me this looks like the USAF is plugging a leak, not going on the hunt.
I'm going to be in Australia (and on airplanes) for the week, but we're all in the capable hands of Andrew, so why worry? The fact that I'm fleeing the country should in no way be construed as anything sinister at all, no siree. Nope. I'm innocent, and nobody saw me do it.
Linus is not only a great project manager, system architect and coder, he's funny as hell too.
(If that isn't an underhanded slap in the back of the head of Dalek McBride, I don't know what is. "I'll be in Oz all week, try the veal!!")
I hope SCO sticks around for a while just for the comedy factor.:-)
Lighten up - This is the first I've heard of this article (Okay, I saw it last week on Groklaw too) and it's extremely relevant to the issues facing OSS in the coprorate world, especially with S.C.U.M. lurking about. (That's SCO Corporation's Underhanded Management, BTW). Putting this on the Slashdot front page makes sure that "many eyes" we talk about so often have actually seen it. Getting the word out about good, relevant, useful tools (well, once in a while) is one of the reasons I still come here.
Actually, I did that - got Nvidia drivers runnning on XP in under 4 hours. That was for work.
I then installed Fedora Core 1 on another partition, got it all running and happy, and then downloaded the 2.6.0 kernel source and went to town. NVidia drivers and all. It was a riot.
Some things in life are needlessly fucking complicated and obscure - and a hell of a lot fun figuring out how to make them work. For everything else there's Windows.
Perhaps there's a time-loop in the "Mysterious Future" that causes subscribers to miss duplicates and not e-mail the editors when they're about to waste yet more bandwidth? Sheesh.
Dollars to doughnuts I get 2 slashdot subscriptions for Xmas. Hope the returns dept. is open on boxing day./troll mode off
Soko
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Perhaps he meant "$2000 Capital Investment"?
Most of what he calls for can usually be gleaned from the office "PC Bone Yard". The most expensive item is the big dual head computer with associated software. Getting it all for under $2K would be a challenge, but not impossible. As for working for free - he set this up for his employer (An assumption - I'll RTFA when it's not/.ed), so they'd be paying him anyway. Since he's trying to make himself more productive, they'll get more for less in the end. I can't see a problem with that, as long as his other duties are kept up as well.
Sliping stuff you need in under the coprorate radar is easily done with FOSS. When setting up a NOC, if you spread any purchases you need out a bit most of them will be cheap enough that they can be bought on an expense account or with petty cash - you avoid Budget Comittees and/or the Accounting Dept. Call it a "Test Case", and use it to prove that a NOC is a good investment, not just some toy or geeky buzzword. Being able to have concrete numbers that say "See? My NOC isn't really expensive, but it adds a ton of value." will keep the bean counters happy. Once the NOC is in place and you show it has value, you will get to keep it - and sometimes expand it.
This is one of the ways that FOSS shines - you can (most times) just get the job done without getting caught up in coprorate red tape, since the inital capital outlay is usually minimal.
I might be a little cynical but could it just be the NHS trying to get a better deal from MS?
And why the hell wouldn't they? That's one of the reasons I've gotten into FOSS - I want a big stick with which to beat Microsoft into submission with.
It's called competition, friend. Every time someone uses FOSS to get deep discounts on Windows and/or Office, it takes just a little more steam out of the Microsoft steamroller. I hate to wish ill on anyone, but this is good for the IT industry, IMHO.
It also makes a business case for evaluating FOSS, putting it into the minds (if not the hearts) of the PHBs. It will become a more common thing to have Linux installs, which will cause Microsoft's customers to make them conform to standards that everyone can live with.
All around, there is no downside here. Your cynicism is born from impatience, of wanting FOSS to win NOW. Patience, friend, and keep a clear head - intelligence, not emotion, is what we need to use in order to restore innovation and freedom to the industry.
I understand where you're coming from, friend - not wanting to take anyone's freedom away. However, a doctor's function is to heal patients, not architect Information Systems. As long as the systems put in place provide him with the information he or she needs, in the form needed when it is needed, there should be no problem at all, after the initial learning curve.
As an IT professional, I know how to heal a sick computer, but for sick humans I refer them to a more much more qualified professional - a Doctor. The reverse should also be true.
"[t]he economic philosophy behind the [Copyright [C]lause... is the conviction that encouragement of individual effort by personal gain is the best way to advance public welfare through the talents of authors and inventors."... Accordingly, "copyright law celebrates the profit motive, recognizing that the incentive to profit from the exploitation of copyrights will redound to the public benefit by resulting in the proliferation of knowledge.... The profit motive is the engine that ensures the progress of science."... Rewarding authors for their creative labor and "promot [ing]... Progress"
not once does it mention "monetary gain", only "profit".
I don't know about others, but I'm profiting very nicely by the (admittedly very small) contibutions I've made to GPLed software. It just doesn't always show itself as $ in my hands.
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That's 6 months I was vulnerable, when I could have come up with a work around or used extra caution in my job in order to make sure any of the machines I'm reponsible for didn't get hacked.
Hey, kudos to Microsoft for being able to keep this away from the skr1p7 k1dd13z and all, but next time we might not be so lucky. Lady Luck tends to become one fickle bitch now and again.
Soko
"ASN.1 is really an extremely deep...technology in Windows itself," he said. "This investigation required us to evaluate several different aspects. This is an instance where we really had to do our due diligence."
Name me an instance where "really doing due dilligence" vis-a-vis security is an option, like this guy makes it sound. Just one.
Please tell me Microsoft is not as inept as this. Please?
Soko
NT for Alpha had no long pointers and the same 4GB memory limit etc. as its IA32 counterpart. The processor was certainly 64 bits, but the OS was 32 bits at it's core. IIRC there were some places where they had to use 64 in order to get the thing to load, but not where it counted.
If Microsoft had actually used the Alpha to it's fullest potential, all of my servers would likely be runnning 21464s, not Xeons.
Yes, I'm still mad at DEC/Compaq/HP for squandering the Alpha tech. *grumble*
Soko
I always thought doctors were supposed to be smart.
I thought the same about my fellow geeks. To wit:
Unless you got stuck being an anusologist, stay with medicine.
Anusologist? I believe proctologist is the correct term - google is your friend.
Actually, I think SCO could realy, really use a computer person who is also a skilled proctologist - that way someone would be there to remove Darl's head from his ass.
Soko
I can't see anything. I must be deaf. ;^)
Soko
Hunh?
How about introducing our principles in an even handed manner, as well as taking into consideration the needs of others.
"Thank you for the driver, nVidia. We'll use it, but it would be that much better if you open sourced it. Yes, we can help you keep that valuable IP from ATI, too, if that matters."
Soko
What if Darl likes being spanked? Given he became CEO of a sinking company and started a legal fight with IBM, he could very well be a masochist, you know.
Soko
Anyone else think the disruption is a bit out of place in their motto?
I think they're referring to "Disruptive Technologies", like the Web or Linux, where something comes along that causes a sea change in the IT industry. It's basically saying "we intend to generate buzzwords for the PHBs, not just follow them."
Soko
Beagle...Rover...
Great. We're not on Mars yet and it's already gone to the dogs.
Soko
Development of a workable solution, that is.
There have been a few times in the past where an entrenched technology has hit a wall in functionality, but because it was entrenched no one really did anything about it.
Then, someone said "Fuck standards - I have to DO something about this!" and started pushing thier solution. Other saw that someone was willing to take the first step, and took a step themselves. After some shakeouts, a new, more functional standard emerged.
My hope is that Yahoo has started the "SPAM proof MTA" development war for real this time. I want my e-mail system back.
Soko
I think you're right. According to Carly,
;^D than Dell's CEO, they're willing to go against "industry standards", namely anything Microsoft tries to cram down thier throats, and give customers what they want.
"The next big thing isn't the next gizmo or killer app or hot box. Customers want all this to work together and they want a seamless approach. We're very much going to make sure that the Microsoft and Apple worlds work together. That's part of the power we bring to this thing."
meaning HP is treating Microsoft as just another supplier, where Dell can't.
So, IMHO, because HPs CEO has more balls
Yay competition!
Soko
Windows is not about choice - it is about having developers and service providers further entrench the Windows hegonomy, with little to no effort on the part of MS.
HP made a choice, as the market seems to be doing as well.
Let's see how well Microsoft lives with this.
Oh, and to all of you who say "Watch how high the price of Windows goes for HP", Microsoft won't dare do anything of the sort. Having both IBM and HP actively looking to kill Windows is not something Microsoft shareholders would appreciate.
Soko
Take off the tinfoil hat, dude. Checking all pics on the net for steganographic info is virtually impossible - just too much info to sort through in a reasonable time frame.
They likley want this to scan documents leaving thier internal network in an attempt to catch people who are sending out sensitive or secret info. To me this looks like the USAF is plugging a leak, not going on the hunt.
Soko
I'm going to be in Australia (and on airplanes) for the week, but we're
:-)
all in the capable hands of Andrew, so why worry? The fact that I'm
fleeing the country should in no way be construed as anything sinister at
all, no siree. Nope. I'm innocent, and nobody saw me do it.
Linus is not only a great project manager, system architect and coder, he's funny as hell too.
(If that isn't an underhanded slap in the back of the head of Dalek McBride, I don't know what is. "I'll be in Oz all week, try the veal!!")
I hope SCO sticks around for a while just for the comedy factor.
Soko
One fix up to this:
Lesson: if the certificate expired yesterday, remove IIS and then reboot the thing.
HTH. HAND.
Soko
Lighten up - This is the first I've heard of this article (Okay, I saw it last week on Groklaw too) and it's extremely relevant to the issues facing OSS in the coprorate world, especially with S.C.U.M. lurking about. (That's SCO Corporation's Underhanded Management, BTW). Putting this on the Slashdot front page makes sure that "many eyes" we talk about so often have actually seen it. Getting the word out about good, relevant, useful tools (well, once in a while) is one of the reasons I still come here.
Soko
Actually, I did that - got Nvidia drivers runnning on XP in under 4 hours. That was for work.
I then installed Fedora Core 1 on another partition, got it all running and happy, and then downloaded the 2.6.0 kernel source and went to town. NVidia drivers and all. It was a riot.
Some things in life are needlessly fucking complicated and obscure - and a hell of a lot fun figuring out how to make them work. For everything else there's Windows.
Soko
Actually, I think that there were 400 shares that were "asked for", and 89200 that were put on the block for sale.
Your final analysis is correct, however.
Soko
Posted 2 days ago here.
/troll mode off
Perhaps there's a time-loop in the "Mysterious Future" that causes subscribers to miss duplicates and not e-mail the editors when they're about to waste yet more bandwidth? Sheesh.
Dollars to doughnuts I get 2 slashdot subscriptions for Xmas. Hope the returns dept. is open on boxing day.
Soko
Free/Open Source Software as I've heard the term.
Soko
Perhaps he meant "$2000 Capital Investment"?
/.ed), so they'd be paying him anyway. Since he's trying to make himself more productive, they'll get more for less in the end. I can't see a problem with that, as long as his other duties are kept up as well.
Most of what he calls for can usually be gleaned from the office "PC Bone Yard". The most expensive item is the big dual head computer with associated software. Getting it all for under $2K would be a challenge, but not impossible. As for working for free - he set this up for his employer (An assumption - I'll RTFA when it's not
Sliping stuff you need in under the coprorate radar is easily done with FOSS. When setting up a NOC, if you spread any purchases you need out a bit most of them will be cheap enough that they can be bought on an expense account or with petty cash - you avoid Budget Comittees and/or the Accounting Dept. Call it a "Test Case", and use it to prove that a NOC is a good investment, not just some toy or geeky buzzword. Being able to have concrete numbers that say "See? My NOC isn't really expensive, but it adds a ton of value." will keep the bean counters happy. Once the NOC is in place and you show it has value, you will get to keep it - and sometimes expand it.
This is one of the ways that FOSS shines - you can (most times) just get the job done without getting caught up in coprorate red tape, since the inital capital outlay is usually minimal.
Soko
I might be a little cynical but could it just be the NHS trying to get a better deal from MS?
And why the hell wouldn't they? That's one of the reasons I've gotten into FOSS - I want a big stick with which to beat Microsoft into submission with.
It's called competition, friend. Every time someone uses FOSS to get deep discounts on Windows and/or Office, it takes just a little more steam out of the Microsoft steamroller. I hate to wish ill on anyone, but this is good for the IT industry, IMHO.
It also makes a business case for evaluating FOSS, putting it into the minds (if not the hearts) of the PHBs. It will become a more common thing to have Linux installs, which will cause Microsoft's customers to make them conform to standards that everyone can live with.
All around, there is no downside here. Your cynicism is born from impatience, of wanting FOSS to win NOW. Patience, friend, and keep a clear head - intelligence, not emotion, is what we need to use in order to restore innovation and freedom to the industry.
Soko
They learn and adapt to use the tools provided?
I understand where you're coming from, friend - not wanting to take anyone's freedom away. However, a doctor's function is to heal patients, not architect Information Systems. As long as the systems put in place provide him with the information he or she needs, in the form needed when it is needed, there should be no problem at all, after the initial learning curve.
As an IT professional, I know how to heal a sick computer, but for sick humans I refer them to a more much more qualified professional - a Doctor. The reverse should also be true.
Soko
If you read this:
... is the conviction that encouragement of individual effort by personal gain is the best way to advance public welfare through the talents of authors and inventors." ... Accordingly, "copyright law celebrates the profit motive, recognizing that the incentive to profit from the exploitation of copyrights will redound to the public benefit by resulting in the proliferation of knowledge.... The profit motive is the engine that ensures the progress of science."... Rewarding authors for their creative labor and "promot [ing] ... Progress"
"[t]he economic philosophy behind the [Copyright [C]lause
not once does it mention "monetary gain", only "profit".
I don't know about others, but I'm profiting very nicely by the (admittedly very small) contibutions I've made to GPLed software. It just doesn't always show itself as $ in my hands.
Think about it, Darl.
Soko
Actually, I was wondering what all of the bright white star-like objects were.
/. effect - they must be servers and/or routers going nova. (Si amigo, that's a pun.)
/.ed today, you can point at a star and say "There's my server!".
Then I remembered the
So, if you were
Soko