Let's just make it that if you patent something that is reviewed, and sounds like a dug-headslap type thing - you get a toenail pulled out with a pair of pliers. On severe cases - just bring back public stoning (no, not drug induced bliss - bludgeoned to h*ll with big fu***** rocks) for the offending numbskull, and his/her lawyer.
Sorry, but I already have a patent pending on this exact method. You'll hear from my solicitor in the morning (never liked him anyway).:P
I think they've seen the writing in the wall as far as NetWare goes, and are thinking of taking the best parts of it and porting those parts to Linux. This story on E-Week shows that they've re-organised thier engineering units to make a "Cross Platform" group with Linux as a specific target. MySQL on NetWare may be the first step in a wholesale change at Novell.
If they can pulll this off, they'll survive - quit nicely too, I think. Dunno if I'd mortgage the house to buy thier stock, but they seem a survivor in the IT world.
This is what needs to happen elsewhere! This is where artists need to go - direct to thier listeners.
If I had the business smarts/time/money, I think I'd start a company that did one thing only - helped artists go direct to the public like this guy did. Help them set up a web site that provided thier listeners with such services as:
- buy pre-made CD - burn tracks direct - special recordings (my wife would flip if I got Creed to sing a song just for her - worth mucho $ to me) - lots of other cool stuff (Sorry - I have to... - ???? - Profit!!!!)
I'd also provide the promotion needed to get people to the site. You would then be certain that your money is going to the artist in question, not some (In My Humble Opinion)looney executive's pocket.
There are other hurdles to clear - radio play being a major obstacle - but I bet it would work.
Yes, chroot jails are effective, but there are times when data - possibly sensitive data - has to be kept within the jail, or the daemon needs access to something outside the jail. Chrooting a secure HTTP server that is then compromised by a buffer overflow for example, would expose the files and databases that the HTTP daemon has access to. That is more easily a "get-out-of-jail-free" card than locking down single APIs.
I would put forth that granting setuid via this method is more effective at securing systems, since you can more easily make sure that the API calls that need privs are written well and bullet proof. Minimal exposure to security risks is what we're after, right? So, this minimises the time that apps can expose themselves to major compromises, even more than a chroot jail. Both together means even better security.
BTW, ACLs aren't much of a strain if done well - look at NTFS 5.1, which IMHO has ACLs done very well indeed.
I wholly agree with your comment, but have a few things to point out.
First,
Staying at home with a DVD and the microwave is lame. Dinner and a movie is cool.
The cinema is an appropriate destination to impress one's date after a fine dining experience. A DVD in the microwave is not cool, except to the extent that it produces nice fireworks and JarJar actualy dies. "Dinner and a Movie" is not cool, because of the irritating hosts. Secondly,
Better yet, we may see more innovation in theatres like the Cinema and Drafthouse. If you've never been to one of those, you don't know what you're missing.
Beer at the movies? That sounds tempting, exept I would hope they pause the feature at least 4 times in order to get more beer and remove the beer that has been processed. Imagine trying to sit through "The Titanic" (don't laugh - I'm assuming I'm on a date here) with 2 or 3 pints in your system. Ouch. If it's good beer, properly chilled, on tap etc., 10 intermissions would be much more appropriate(urp).
I like DVDs too (pause button!), but agree that the whole idea of the cinema is the experience, the "value adds" that come with it. Sometimes a true big screen is needed.
Second, it's not exactly passive cooling he has there. I've seen the fan-shaped CPU heatsink before (just can't seem to get Google to spit out who makes it) and he has it in a shroud connected to a fan. Alphas did the same thing - my PWS500a has no heat sink fan, but is cooled by the same shroud/case fan method. It must work, since my elecrticity bills while I was running the SETI@Home client said the thing sucks a ton of juice. Nice, effective low noise solution to the cooling problem, IMHO.
Me too. Actually, the molten web server thingies are kinda neat (WOW! The colours! You have a lump of metallic Sodium in there or something? Never seen one blow up like that before. Cripes!) but they get boring after a while. I'd rather see the "purty pitchers" once in a while.
Think this guy hid under his desk when the "Slashdot Effect" nuclear-holocaust-warning buzzer went off? That would be about the only use for it right about now...
Which is the point, I think, for the gentle reminder from krygny.
One would hope that any person from Slashdot would think about thier response and make it palletable for the masses, instead of just allowing thier feelings about the DMCA to come to the fore un-abated. Your opinions will be on public display if you choose to respond, so please keep the invective for Slashdot comments, not on a site whose audience won't be so tolerant of trolling. There's no moderators out there, after all.
Does anyone want to explain what this would mean for my.org domain? I actually own several others, but is it going to move to a non-profit only kind of domain, or will they still be available for anyone?
A question I have - in the same vien as yours - is what will happen to the URL you use to get here -./ itself - http://slatshdot.org. Snide remarks about profit aside, Slashdot is supposed to make money for VA Linux. If ISOC demands that.org is for non-profits only, will this domain be moved to.com,.info or somewhere else? Is this site enough about "a community" that ISOC will look the other way? Will Rob be forced to become what he hates and use the courts to retain the current domain name?
No, Junk Mail. The Music Industry has some experience with that, too. Getting a link to this beauty (Warning - OUCH!!!) in your e-mail inbox would be considered SPAM.
Soko
P.S. - Please pardon the SPAM in the link denegrating the SPAMmers. SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAM...
I've already told my rep what I think of DRM, though I don't suppose it would hurt to tell him again. I believe DRM is 21st century solution to a 21st century problem. We need to have some way of protecting innovation from those, like the inhabitants of Slashdot, that choose to steal rather than create. If this means that I lose a little convience in the pursuit of a larger good, well then so be it.
I whole heartedly agree. I will gladly give up a little convenience in order to help out artists - or Physicists that write important papers.
I will not, however, give up my personal freedoms in order to help out artists. This is a "larger good" than making sure artists get paid. There is a subtle but important difference, Mr. PhysicsGenius. DRM must accomodate what I want to do within the confines of the Law as well, or it is worthless.
I'm a computer guy, so my future is in (for lack of a better term) cyberspace. DRM must not package up the keys to the digital future solely for the use of those already in power. To just stand idly by and let my personal freedoms be trampled on just to ensure the status quo in a market segment would be an insult to all those who have fought for my freedom in the past will have done so for naught. If you feel that your right to money exceeds my right to freedom, so be it - we will have to agree to be at odds then.
Soko
P.S. - No, I'm not a hypocrite. I own the CD to every MP3 on my computers, paid for the licenses of the software that requires doing so and P2P networking is nowhere to be seen on my systems.
To KDE, or not to KDE: that is the question: Whether 'tis GNOMEbler in the mind to suffer The flames and trolls of outrageous UserInterface, Or to take arms against a sea of disparate apps, And by opposing end them? To kill -9: to sleep;...
Don't worry, the conspirists will come up with a way to spin-doctor this article to sound like MS has found a new way to screw people. It's already happening on Slashdot.
The realists will know that Microsoft did this to make thier product sell better and actually make money. Like any good business, they'll only screw people if it increases shareholder value, right? Well, this time Microsoft customers didn't have to drink the Kool-aid, so forced copy protection has been shelved. Not scraped, but shelved...
It does make me curious: which distros of Linux provide similar PVR support. Mmmm?
Heard of Tivo? Ok, that's not a distro. Must be in here somewhere though...
This is the same guy that did the Periodic Table Table - see this story for how I got there.
Anyway, the video of the sodium lump dancing around the lake in a chaotic and totally uncontrolled manner was fair enough warning for me. I'd hate for pure Na to hit something made of flesh. *shudder*
Paying people to work on an OSS project is strategic for any business for the following reasons:
1. You get in on the ground floor. If your competitors have core developers on an important Open Source project, you are at a disadvantage. They will have intimate knowledge of the product, since they helped generate the source code. You, on the other hand will have to read and decode the source. You then spend more time - and $ - getting up to speed in supporting your end users. Having a core developer means you're that much closer to the information you need.
2. Standards compliance. If you and 2 or 3 of your competitors are all working on an OSS product, it will become a standard, since everyone has to agree on the functionality of the package. It is impossible to do otherwise. Basically, you all agree to detente - you permenately remove a weapon from the arsenal. This stops an expensive "arms race", and also means less things to worry about and/or reverse engineer. Interoperability is assured then, so it means $ can be spent in more constructive ways.
3. Wealth of focused resources. A compelling Open Source product will attract the brightest users who have a vested interest in your product. The quality of bug reports usually is better and more diverse. For that matter, the coders outside of your organisation also will have a vested interest in your product, since they aren't motivated by getting paid to submit changes and bug fixes. This means development is focused on getting the right product in user's hands - not what marketing thinks is the right stuff. The feedback loop from the field is much better. Less $ wasted on dead end products, or going down the wrong development path.
4. Marketing. If your organisation starts an OSS project and keeps/pays the lead developers, your name is attached to it, even if others contribute to the code. Everyone knows that JFS is and IBM product, as well that XFS is an SGI product. They just happen to be OpenSource. This doesn't result in tangeable $, but other things that can lead to more $ - like goodwill from the development community, end users and sometimes even (gasp!) your competition.
5. Undercutting the competition. If your OSS project provides the same funtionality as a competitors closed source product at the same quality level (most indications state quality will be above Closed Source), you've effectively removed most of the reasons that your competitions product will be bought. If you're paying 2 developers and have 10 other regularily contributing code an OSS product under the GPL, but a competing product needs 20 developers to code (and untold others to support the product and the codrs too), well the math is easy. Cut throat, but effective business strategy.
There are likely many other benefits that come from "owning" OSS code, but I'll stop here for brevities sake.
Soko
P.S. - I haven't listed the downsides, since we, unh, know there aren't any/sarcasm;-)
Wait..!!! I know why, cause they get paid for every crappy law they make.. and we all know how corrupt and money hungry politicans are!!!!!!
From your post:
No, they attack P2P networks because the lobbyists (RIAA, MPAA, Lars Ulrich) have massive amounts of cash.
So, you say basically the same thing, and yet tell the guy to get off of his ass, stop whining and change the system, or move to a communist or a formerly communist country. IOW, you seem to be willing to accept the status quo of lobbyists buying laws since "that's capitalism - like it, change it or leave it."
Lesse, we have big media companies lobbying for and getting passed laws that are actually bad for consumers. In order to change this, we need to get the word out to as many voters as possible. Since it's "one person, one vote" as is proper, we need to convince lots and lots of people to fight this. OK, let's use TV air time, magazine ads, etc. In short, we need to use the, er, big media companies...
Hmmmmmm - how effective will that be ya think? You think big media will say "Sure, shoot me with my own gun, buddy!"?? Right.
So, what we need are ways to change the law outside of the prevue of those that make - or buy - the law. Hence, Kazaa et. al. are quite happy to allow USAians to choose to step outside the sphere of influence of the US Congress and violate a law of questionalble value to consumers. Seems like Capitalism at it's finest - consumers going to the best price for the best goods, regardless of what the US Congress thinks. As is proper.
News.com does a whole lot better if there's controversy happening somewhere in the IT world. IOW, if it's getting boring, nothing new happening, same run-o-the-mill Microsoft announcements on the front page, most people spend less thatn 30 seconds looking at it. Now, if they get sued, they get to play hero to the geeks and "stand up for user's rights", and in doing so become the centre themselves of a big (they hope) news story. Traffic galore - including getting/.ed regularily. Very clever.
IMHO, it's a case of the news reporters manufacturing news. I say let them whore all they want. I'm sure they can bring some bigger legal artillery to a court case - hopefully thier journalistic bretheren. I'll be happy when the DMCA is smacked down no matter who, what or how it's done.
Slashdot Mirror
A system for the disabling of logical, rational thought; a system that creates random decisions and has no method of control or accountability?
Sorry. I really don't think you can patent the U.S. Patent Office itself.
Soko
Let's just make it that if you patent something that is reviewed, and sounds like a dug-headslap type thing - you get a toenail pulled out with a pair of pliers. On severe cases - just bring back public stoning (no, not drug induced bliss - bludgeoned to h*ll with big fu***** rocks) for the offending numbskull, and his/her lawyer.
:P
Sorry, but I already have a patent pending on this exact method. You'll hear from my solicitor in the morning (never liked him anyway).
Soko
Actually, let me make an educated guess here.
I think they've seen the writing in the wall as far as NetWare goes, and are thinking of taking the best parts of it and porting those parts to Linux. This story on E-Week shows that they've re-organised thier engineering units to make a "Cross Platform" group with Linux as a specific target. MySQL on NetWare may be the first step in a wholesale change at Novell.
If they can pulll this off, they'll survive - quit nicely too, I think. Dunno if I'd mortgage the house to buy thier stock, but they seem a survivor in the IT world.
Soko
Good for Lobao! Wish I could read Portugese...
This is what needs to happen elsewhere! This is where artists need to go - direct to thier listeners.
If I had the business smarts/time/money, I think I'd start a company that did one thing only - helped artists go direct to the public like this guy did. Help them set up a web site that provided thier listeners with such services as:
- buy pre-made CD
- burn tracks direct
- special recordings (my wife would flip if I got Creed to sing a song just for her - worth mucho $ to me)
- lots of other cool stuff
(Sorry - I have to...
- ????
- Profit!!!!)
I'd also provide the promotion needed to get people to the site. You would then be certain that your money is going to the artist in question, not some (In My Humble Opinion)looney executive's pocket.
There are other hurdles to clear - radio play being a major obstacle - but I bet it would work.
Soko
Yes, chroot jails are effective, but there are times when data - possibly sensitive data - has to be kept within the jail, or the daemon needs access to something outside the jail. Chrooting a secure HTTP server that is then compromised by a buffer overflow for example, would expose the files and databases that the HTTP daemon has access to. That is more easily a "get-out-of-jail-free" card than locking down single APIs.
I would put forth that granting setuid via this method is more effective at securing systems, since you can more easily make sure that the API calls that need privs are written well and bullet proof. Minimal exposure to security risks is what we're after, right? So, this minimises the time that apps can expose themselves to major compromises, even more than a chroot jail. Both together means even better security.
BTW, ACLs aren't much of a strain if done well - look at NTFS 5.1, which IMHO has ACLs done very well indeed.
Soko
I wholly agree with your comment, but have a few things to point out.
First,
Staying at home with a DVD and the microwave is lame. Dinner and a movie is cool.
The cinema is an appropriate destination to impress one's date after a fine dining experience. A DVD in the microwave is not cool, except to the extent that it produces nice fireworks and JarJar actualy dies. "Dinner and a Movie" is not cool, because of the irritating hosts. Secondly,
Better yet, we may see more innovation in theatres like the Cinema and Drafthouse. If you've never been to one of those, you don't know what you're missing.
Beer at the movies? That sounds tempting, exept I would hope they pause the feature at least 4 times in order to get more beer and remove the beer that has been processed. Imagine trying to sit through "The Titanic" (don't laugh - I'm assuming I'm on a date here) with 2 or 3 pints in your system. Ouch. If it's good beer, properly chilled, on tap etc., 10 intermissions would be much more appropriate(urp).
I like DVDs too (pause button!), but agree that the whole idea of the cinema is the experience, the "value adds" that come with it. Sometimes a true big screen is needed.
Soko
Illiad had this figured out a while ago...
Doubt it, though I wonder if Mr. Tanenbaum will ever want to change his mind and give Mr. Tovalds "a passing grade" for his kernel design. ^_^
First of all, thanks for the pictures.
Second, it's not exactly passive cooling he has there. I've seen the fan-shaped CPU heatsink before (just can't seem to get Google to spit out who makes it) and he has it in a shroud connected to a fan. Alphas did the same thing - my PWS500a has no heat sink fan, but is cooled by the same shroud/case fan method. It must work, since my elecrticity bills while I was running the SETI@Home client said the thing sucks a ton of juice. Nice, effective low noise solution to the cooling problem, IMHO.
Soko
Me too. Actually, the molten web server thingies are kinda neat (WOW! The colours! You have a lump of metallic Sodium in there or something? Never seen one blow up like that before. Cripes!) but they get boring after a while. I'd rather see the "purty pitchers" once in a while.
Think this guy hid under his desk when the "Slashdot Effect" nuclear-holocaust-warning buzzer went off? That would be about the only use for it right about now...
Soko
Hmmmmm.... Let's compare -
This
to
the right side of this.
Maybe SETI could ask E.T. for a few bucks...
Soko
I use FAT32.
The diskspace used by the journal file in NTFS and this new filesystem can be put to much better use.
Ya, like all of the fucking backups you need to keep your data safe. On that 80Gig disk, no less.
Fuck
All
There
is what we used to call the FAT filesystem, and for good reason. No security, no recovery. You work for Peter Norton, any chance?
Get a clue, bud - journaling file systems were integrated with _all_ modern OSes for a reason. Namely, big gain, near zero cost.
Soko
lucid and valid anectdotes?
From Slashdot?
Which is the point, I think, for the gentle reminder from krygny.
One would hope that any person from Slashdot would think about thier response and make it palletable for the masses, instead of just allowing thier feelings about the DMCA to come to the fore un-abated. Your opinions will be on public display if you choose to respond, so please keep the invective for Slashdot comments, not on a site whose audience won't be so tolerant of trolling. There's no moderators out there, after all.
Soko
Does anyone want to explain what this would mean for my .org domain? I actually own several others, but is it going to move to a non-profit only kind of domain, or will they still be available for anyone?
./ itself - http://slatshdot.org. Snide remarks about profit aside, Slashdot is supposed to make money for VA Linux. If ISOC demands that .org is for non-profits only, will this domain be moved to .com, .info or somewhere else? Is this site enough about "a community" that ISOC will look the other way? Will Rob be forced to become what he hates and use the courts to retain the current domain name?
A question I have - in the same vien as yours - is what will happen to the URL you use to get here -
Should be interesting to see what transpires.
Soko
No, Junk Mail. The Music Industry has some experience with that, too. Getting a link to this beauty (Warning - OUCH!!!) in your e-mail inbox would be considered SPAM.
Soko
P.S. - Please pardon the SPAM in the link denegrating the SPAMmers. SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAM...
I knew that, long before I clicked the submit button.
I just had to respond, though. I get steamed when people even suggest that our freedoms are less important than a person's "right" to make a buck.
I'm not worried about it. It's nice to spell stuff like that out once in a while though, don't you think?
Soko
I've already told my rep what I think of DRM, though I don't suppose it would hurt to tell him again. I believe DRM is 21st century solution to a 21st century problem. We need to have some way of protecting innovation from those, like the inhabitants of Slashdot, that choose to steal rather than create. If this means that I lose a little convience in the pursuit of a larger good, well then so be it.
I whole heartedly agree. I will gladly give up a little convenience in order to help out artists - or Physicists that write important papers.
I will not, however, give up my personal freedoms in order to help out artists. This is a "larger good" than making sure artists get paid. There is a subtle but important difference, Mr. PhysicsGenius. DRM must accomodate what I want to do within the confines of the Law as well, or it is worthless.
I'm a computer guy, so my future is in (for lack of a better term) cyberspace. DRM must not package up the keys to the digital future solely for the use of those already in power. To just stand idly by and let my personal freedoms be trampled on just to ensure the status quo in a market segment would be an insult to all those who have fought for my freedom in the past will have done so for naught. If you feel that your right to money exceeds my right to freedom, so be it - we will have to agree to be at odds then.
Soko
P.S. - No, I'm not a hypocrite. I own the CD to every MP3 on my computers, paid for the licenses of the software that requires doing so and P2P networking is nowhere to be seen on my systems.
Kudos to RH for raising the bard ...
...
To KDE, or not to KDE: that is the question:
Whether 'tis GNOMEbler in the mind to suffer
The flames and trolls of outrageous UserInterface,
Or to take arms against a sea of disparate apps,
And by opposing end them? To kill -9: to sleep;
Soko
Oops!
;-)
Sorry - that would be Penn and Teller. Silly me.
Soko
Don't worry, the conspirists will come up with a way to spin-doctor this article to sound like MS has found a new way to screw people. It's already happening on Slashdot.
The realists will know that Microsoft did this to make thier product sell better and actually make money. Like any good business, they'll only screw people if it increases shareholder value, right? Well, this time Microsoft customers didn't have to drink the Kool-aid, so forced copy protection has been shelved. Not scraped, but shelved...
It does make me curious: which distros of Linux provide similar PVR support. Mmmm?
Heard of Tivo? Ok, that's not a distro. Must be in here somewhere though...
Soko
This is the same guy that did the Periodic Table Table - see this story for how I got there.
Anyway, the video of the sodium lump dancing around the lake in a chaotic and totally uncontrolled manner was fair enough warning for me. I'd hate for pure Na to hit something made of flesh. *shudder*
So, our final reaction is:
Curiosity(++Chemistry) + 100(Bucks) + EBay - GreyMatter => hazard 2(health) + fireworks(neato)
Soko
Does this make business sense? In a word,
/sarcasm ;-)
Yes.
Paying people to work on an OSS project is strategic for any business for the following reasons:
1. You get in on the ground floor. If your competitors have core developers on an important Open Source project, you are at a disadvantage. They will have intimate knowledge of the product, since they helped generate the source code. You, on the other hand will have to read and decode the source. You then spend more time - and $ - getting up to speed in supporting your end users. Having a core developer means you're that much closer to the information you need.
2. Standards compliance. If you and 2 or 3 of your competitors are all working on an OSS product, it will become a standard, since everyone has to agree on the functionality of the package. It is impossible to do otherwise. Basically, you all agree to detente - you permenately remove a weapon from the arsenal. This stops an expensive "arms race", and also means less things to worry about and/or reverse engineer. Interoperability is assured then, so it means $ can be spent in more constructive ways.
3. Wealth of focused resources. A compelling Open Source product will attract the brightest users who have a vested interest in your product. The quality of bug reports usually is better and more diverse. For that matter, the coders outside of your organisation also will have a vested interest in your product, since they aren't motivated by getting paid to submit changes and bug fixes. This means development is focused on getting the right product in user's hands - not what marketing thinks is the right stuff. The feedback loop from the field is much better. Less $ wasted on dead end products, or going down the wrong development path.
4. Marketing. If your organisation starts an OSS project and keeps/pays the lead developers, your name is attached to it, even if others contribute to the code. Everyone knows that JFS is and IBM product, as well that XFS is an SGI product. They just happen to be OpenSource. This doesn't result in tangeable $, but other things that can lead to more $ - like goodwill from the development community, end users and sometimes even (gasp!) your competition.
5. Undercutting the competition. If your OSS project provides the same funtionality as a competitors closed source product at the same quality level (most indications state quality will be above Closed Source), you've effectively removed most of the reasons that your competitions product will be bought. If you're paying 2 developers and have 10 other regularily contributing code an OSS product under the GPL, but a competing product needs 20 developers to code (and untold others to support the product and the codrs too), well the math is easy. Cut throat, but effective business strategy.
There are likely many other benefits that come from "owning" OSS code, but I'll stop here for brevities sake.
Soko
P.S. - I haven't listed the downsides, since we, unh, know there aren't any
From the parent post:
Wait..!!! I know why, cause they get paid for every crappy law they make.. and we all know how corrupt and money hungry politicans are!!!!!!
From your post:
No, they attack P2P networks because the lobbyists (RIAA, MPAA, Lars Ulrich) have massive amounts of cash.
So, you say basically the same thing, and yet tell the guy to get off of his ass, stop whining and change the system, or move to a communist or a formerly communist country. IOW, you seem to be willing to accept the status quo of lobbyists buying laws since "that's capitalism - like it, change it or leave it."
Lesse, we have big media companies lobbying for and getting passed laws that are actually bad for consumers. In order to change this, we need to get the word out to as many voters as possible. Since it's "one person, one vote" as is proper, we need to convince lots and lots of people to fight this. OK, let's use TV air time, magazine ads, etc. In short, we need to use the, er, big media companies...
Hmmmmmm - how effective will that be ya think? You think big media will say "Sure, shoot me with my own gun, buddy!"?? Right.
So, what we need are ways to change the law outside of the prevue of those that make - or buy - the law. Hence, Kazaa et. al. are quite happy to allow USAians to choose to step outside the sphere of influence of the US Congress and violate a law of questionalble value to consumers. Seems like Capitalism at it's finest - consumers going to the best price for the best goods, regardless of what the US Congress thinks. As is proper.
Soko
Almost, but not quite.
/.ed regularily. Very clever.
News.com does a whole lot better if there's controversy happening somewhere in the IT world. IOW, if it's getting boring, nothing new happening, same run-o-the-mill Microsoft announcements on the front page, most people spend less thatn 30 seconds looking at it. Now, if they get sued, they get to play hero to the geeks and "stand up for user's rights", and in doing so become the centre themselves of a big (they hope) news story. Traffic galore - including getting
IMHO, it's a case of the news reporters manufacturing news. I say let them whore all they want. I'm sure they can bring some bigger legal artillery to a court case - hopefully thier journalistic bretheren. I'll be happy when the DMCA is smacked down no matter who, what or how it's done.
Soko
I think I'm alergic to legalese or something. Even looking at the dumbed down version is making me sick.
:-P
--
If you think it makes you sick, just try that ugly little line they start off with - #!usr/bin/legal - in a bash script.
Try it as root. Watch your machine e-mail Linus, asking him to sue you for "Trademark abuse, irreparable harm and emotional damages".
Soko