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Geez, you don't get it do you? The Internet is NOT a place to store stuff - it is a public communications network
Quote:
Now I don't think networks will ever replace storage media. Of course, everything has to be stored somewhere, but that's not what I mean.
Umm, one does NOT store data on a network, one stores data on storage media. The storage media is accessed from the net.
If I have enough bandwidth (isn't 44 KBits/second enough for CD quaility?) I could access my personal MP3 server behind my firewall connected to my @Home pipe with my VPN client. All of that gear is in my home, even though I access it from any Internet access point. Yup, I can get to my legally purchased and ripped CD collection from wherever I have sufficient access - be it wireless or whatever. That is the crux of the argument here - I paid to listen to the content, so I should be able to get at it from wherever I am.
'Nother quote:
Another point is access speed. No network can ever be as fast as locally existing media. I can easily and very quickly browse the stuff on my harddrive and find everything at once. That is not the same with the net, which takes much, much longer. And the network is certainly not as reliable as my harddrive. Yes, it gets better, and there are few problems now. But still, there are many more things that can go wrong, so it's much more likely to be a problem.
AOL giving you fits?:-D
As long as the RIAA and other organizations that oppose consumer freedom allow that. Actually, I can do that too to my personal stuff on my personal servers behind my personal firewall - "ls -l \mp3z\rush\*.mp3" don't take a whole lot of time across a reasonable PPP connection. And I do everything I can to make sure my connection is reliable and secure. (I paid to use all the content on my hard disk, and feel others should do the same, so I secure my access to it to the best of my ability. Wish I could just give the money to the artists instead of the corporate elite, but that's a different story.)
With this tiny media, the industry is trying to kill one of the reasons for MP3s - solid state storage, a la RIO et. al. Anyone can make MP3s for thier RIO, but not these disks.
If the RIAA had thier way, any internet router would drop packets from any MP3 stream, or inform them so they can a$k you where the $ong came from. And I've lost a little more of my freedom.
Hope I've given you a clue - don't ever trade freedom for convenience.
Anyone who is serious about 24X7, secure operation of thier network will have a lab set up to test later versions of OSes & apps, as well as any security and update patches for the above.
I'll use this as a cluestick to beat the money out of the ones with the purse strings to get a test lab going, now!
Good god, where did you get THAT thing?? I haven't seen one in over 10 years. When I last had to deal with one of those little critters was just after the Contel Computer Company split off from Contel and was re-named to Versyss. Before that, the company was called CADO systems. Actually, the old CADO machines I serviced were pretty amazing - they could get 4 simultaneous users on an 8085 based system. Yup, a 2MHz, 8 bit CPU. Boy, am I dating myself here.
IIRC, the OS on your mini is some ugly thing called CADOL. The last machine new machine I remember them making was called the Hawk or something - that was an ugly amalgum of Unix and Cadol in the same box, using 2 386 processors. Actually, sounds like you have one of these ugly beasts.
Do a Google search on "Contel Tiger", Versyss, or you may even try contacting these guys - they used to sell those things, and may have a manual or 2 laying around.
First, I'll take this post as coming from a Corporate Wag, not a troll.
The second point of view is the insurance company's. How do they know the person applying for coverage isn't terminally ill and will make the company pay out millions of dollars for treatment? The company has a right to know the state of their paitents before giving coverage.
Wake up and smell the espresso, dude, the article is about LIFE Insurance, not Health insurance. Millions of dollars in treatment for a DEAD person? I wouldn't Insure your life - you're smoking crack.
I have no problem with an Insurance company saying "Look, moron, until you quit smoking you're paying an extra $ amount for us to insure your life, cuz you're killing yourself." Smoking and other self-destructive behaviour I can change - my genetic make-up I CANNOT. This is tantamount to the US Government saying "Seeing as this particular group (OK, I'm being P.C. here..) statistically has a tendancy to commit crimes, we'll get the cops to pay special attention to them." Oops, bad example.;)
You get my drift though - Insurance companies love this type of thing. You pay an Insurance company to assume risk for you - and then they do thier damndest to elimanate that risk. Please realize that an Insurance company takes YOUR money and invests it - that's how they make THIER money. When they pay out, they loose the money to invest, and can't make more profit. So, they make you pay more if you're at greater risk of dying, in order to cover the profit's they're likely to loose by you checking out early. If they had thier way, anyone with a serious illness in their family history would pay DOUBLE for life insurance. Genetic testing would give them an Iron Fist with which to asses the risk of insuring your life - so not only would you be sick, you'd be poor from paying overly inflated life insurance rates because of your genetic makeup. And Lord help you if you're pre-disposed to cancer or something and your employer finds out...
If this were allowed to continue, anyone who could get sick would end up at the fringes of society - "Fuck you if you're going to die at 50, this guy will live to 100 and is a better investment." You'd end up with more discrimination based on genetic makeup, just like the morons who make skin color an issue. After all, that's a genetic trait, isn't it?
I think, Mr. AC, that this may be a question of understanding. Your question is valid, but is perhaps a bit out of context, and somewhat trite in nature.
Clinton's mom found him among like-minded intelligent people, who understood her son's needs and wants, where he could actually interact socially instead of being looked at as "different" or "weird". From the links Roblimo provided one would assume that he's writing a front end for a command-line MP3 app and helping to build a new Linux distro from the ground up. To any geek that met Clinton, this would be worthy of a fair amount of respect. Initially, anyway.
Pehaps your question would have been better phrased as "How difficult was it to be acepted by your fellow geeks, even though you're only 15 years old? Did they treat you as an equal, or give you the "wunderkid" treatment?"
The big hardware players like IBM, HP and Compaq are likely tired of cow-towing to Bill & Co. every time they sell a machine. Linux means they can free themselves from any outside control in product development. It also levels the playing field for everyones hardware. Lastly, Linux is buying them mindshare from the people they need to support thier products - sysadmins, delvelopers and IT personnel in general - by introducing them to a *NIX variant, they get a toe-hold for thier proprietary versions of *NIX. No wonder they're all solidly behind Linux - it's good business.
It would seem they'd put the sniffer box on the same segment as your Internet router - all relevant traffic goes throught there. Multiple routers? Multiple NICs, or even multiple Carnivore boxes.
Besides, if you have a Cabletron, HP or other high-end switch, the firmware usually has a function that will mirror one port to another just for the purpose of sniffing - and they will likely have the court order (or subpoena or writ or whatever)forcing you to use it.
I'll admit, that if it were me facing such a court order to assist in using Carnivore, I'd trade some sc4ip7 kid33z ass for mine in an instant. Revolting, eh?
Before it's ported to Windoze, I'd submit the language spec to the IETF or something and have it declared a Worldwide Open Standard. Then no one can pollute it or de-rail it, without showing that they don't "subscribe to Open Standards". Maybe the authors should have Bjarne Stroustrup take a gander - he might provide a ton of help. I'm sure he would like to see this little beauty take a bite out of Java, and C# as well. Cool.
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Anybody care to notice that the drop in the crime rate seems to mirror the economic prosperity that started circa 1992? This, by co-incidence, happens to be "due to the Internet", if you believe Gore and Bush. Just asking...
Unfortunately, you're right. The system is broken, for certain. However, the alternative you mentioned is probrably the lesser of the 2 evils.
Canada has guaranteed health care, and it works rather well, actually. There are some things that suck, like underpaid medical professionals, longer waits for surgery, etc., but for the most part people get the treatment they need. We do pay higher taxes to support the system, but at least if anyone is going to profit from sick people, it's the Government, which is elected by us. I'd have a real hard time buying health insurance from a company.
When you think of it, it's like the Insurance companies are trying to be Darwinian Agents - "if you've got this genetic anomality, you're likely to die soon since we won't insure you. Unless you have another trait (Big $) that can overcome this. We need to do this in order to survive ourselves." So, people will die in order that the Insurance company live - survival of the fittest.
Jeez, Canada is being taken for Mars more all the time. We had that crappy Mars movie shot around Vancouver, and they spray painted an entire valley red. The Mars society is using the North to see how humans will survive up there. And now we have scientists telling us that the CLIMATE of Mars will be like north of the 49th?
I hereby propose that we Canucks grap about 750Ml (that's Mega-litres, or about 4.5 million gallons) of PFC producing white paint, 3 or 4 thousand beers, take the Avro Arrow out of mothballs, fly to Mars and lay down an enormous Canadian Flag on the surface. Should seem like home in a real short time.
I knew that. Watts do seem like the natural thing to say, however. Joules/Hour just donesn't seem to cut it.
Gawd, College Physics is a long way off from here. Anybody know the best way to say "The Laptop sucks a quantity of power X from the battery in one Hour? 10 Amp-Hours maybe?
Slashdot Mirror
Back in '96. Any searching turned up pr0n - even then. Shheshh.
"...information to answer this question of the present time. "
;-)
/. for showing that we do have someone in high places that understands.
Seems he doesn't know enough to review what Naturally Speaking is typing for him, though.
All snide remarks aside, thanks to Rep. Boucher and
Soko
[whack]ghoti gets a tap in the back of the head with a clue stick[/whack]
:-D
Geez, you don't get it do you? The Internet is NOT a place to store stuff - it is a public communications network
Quote:
Now I don't think networks will ever replace storage media. Of course, everything has to be stored somewhere, but that's not what I mean.
Umm, one does NOT store data on a network, one stores data on storage media. The storage media is accessed from the net.
If I have enough bandwidth (isn't 44 KBits/second enough for CD quaility?) I could access my personal MP3 server behind my firewall connected to my @Home pipe with my VPN client. All of that gear is in my home, even though I access it from any Internet access point. Yup, I can get to my legally purchased and ripped CD collection from wherever I have sufficient access - be it wireless or whatever. That is the crux of the argument here - I paid to listen to the content, so I should be able to get at it from wherever I am.
'Nother quote:
Another point is access speed. No network can ever be as fast as locally existing media. I can easily and very quickly browse the stuff on my harddrive and find everything at once. That is not the same with the net, which takes much, much longer. And the network is certainly not as reliable as my harddrive. Yes, it gets better, and there are few problems now. But still, there are many more things that can go wrong, so it's much more likely to be a problem.
AOL giving you fits?
As long as the RIAA and other organizations that oppose consumer freedom allow that. Actually, I can do that too to my personal stuff on my personal servers behind my personal firewall - "ls -l \mp3z\rush\*.mp3" don't take a whole lot of time across a reasonable PPP connection. And I do everything I can to make sure my connection is reliable and secure. (I paid to use all the content on my hard disk, and feel others should do the same, so I secure my access to it to the best of my ability. Wish I could just give the money to the artists instead of the corporate elite, but that's a different story.)
With this tiny media, the industry is trying to kill one of the reasons for MP3s - solid state storage, a la RIO et. al. Anyone can make MP3s for thier RIO, but not these disks.
If the RIAA had thier way, any internet router would drop packets from any MP3 stream, or inform them so they can a$k you where the $ong came from. And I've lost a little more of my freedom.
Hope I've given you a clue - don't ever trade freedom for convenience.
Seems IBM has some problemss too.
Anyone who is serious about 24X7, secure operation of thier network will have a lab set up to test later versions of OSes & apps, as well as any security and update patches for the above.
I'll use this as a cluestick to beat the money out of the ones with the purse strings to get a test lab going, now!
Good god, where did you get THAT thing?? I haven't seen one in over 10 years. When I last had to deal with one of those little critters was just after the Contel Computer Company split off from Contel and was re-named to Versyss. Before that, the company was called CADO systems. Actually, the old CADO machines I serviced were pretty amazing - they could get 4 simultaneous users on an 8085 based system. Yup, a 2MHz, 8 bit CPU. Boy, am I dating myself here.
IIRC, the OS on your mini is some ugly thing called CADOL. The last machine new machine I remember them making was called the Hawk or something - that was an ugly amalgum of Unix and Cadol in the same box, using 2 386 processors. Actually, sounds like you have one of these ugly beasts.
Do a Google search on "Contel Tiger", Versyss, or you may even try contacting these guys - they used to sell those things, and may have a manual or 2 laying around.
I'm colorblind. That's a genetic condition.
Lucky you. We can only hope that your condition ends up spreading to certain sections of society.
First, I'll take this post as coming from a Corporate Wag, not a troll.
;)
The second point of view is the insurance company's. How do they know the person applying for coverage isn't terminally ill and will make the company pay out millions of dollars for treatment? The company has a right to know the state of their paitents before giving coverage.
Wake up and smell the espresso, dude, the article is about LIFE Insurance, not Health insurance. Millions of dollars in treatment for a DEAD person? I wouldn't Insure your life - you're smoking crack.
I have no problem with an Insurance company saying "Look, moron, until you quit smoking you're paying an extra $ amount for us to insure your life, cuz you're killing yourself." Smoking and other self-destructive behaviour I can change - my genetic make-up I CANNOT. This is tantamount to the US Government saying "Seeing as this particular group (OK, I'm being P.C. here..) statistically has a tendancy to commit crimes, we'll get the cops to pay special attention to them." Oops, bad example.
You get my drift though - Insurance companies love this type of thing. You pay an Insurance company to assume risk for you - and then they do thier damndest to elimanate that risk. Please realize that an Insurance company takes YOUR money and invests it - that's how they make THIER money. When they pay out, they loose the money to invest, and can't make more profit. So, they make you pay more if you're at greater risk of dying, in order to cover the profit's they're likely to loose by you checking out early. If they had thier way, anyone with a serious illness in their family history would pay DOUBLE for life insurance. Genetic testing would give them an Iron Fist with which to asses the risk of insuring your life - so not only would you be sick, you'd be poor from paying overly inflated life insurance rates because of your genetic makeup. And Lord help you if you're pre-disposed to cancer or something and your employer finds out...
If this were allowed to continue, anyone who could get sick would end up at the fringes of society - "Fuck you if you're going to die at 50, this guy will live to 100 and is a better investment." You'd end up with more discrimination based on genetic makeup, just like the morons who make skin color an issue. After all, that's a genetic trait, isn't it?
Damn. Done ranting. Need Coffee...
..until Microsoft releases an "Active Math" extention for this?
Or perhaps "an Itanium plated Box"...
With the imminent launch of OS/X, one would think that Apple has been a rather prickly bedfellow as of late.
Have they been open, honest and co-operative, or do they seem to view you and your group as something of a compeditor?
I think, Mr. AC, that this may be a question of understanding. Your question is valid, but is perhaps a bit out of context, and somewhat trite in nature.
Clinton's mom found him among like-minded intelligent people, who understood her son's needs and wants, where he could actually interact socially instead of being looked at as "different" or "weird". From the links Roblimo provided one would assume that he's writing a front end for a command-line MP3 app and helping to build a new Linux distro from the ground up. To any geek that met Clinton, this would be worthy of a fair amount of respect. Initially, anyway.
Pehaps your question would have been better phrased as "How difficult was it to be acepted by your fellow geeks, even though you're only 15 years old? Did they treat you as an equal, or give you the "wunderkid" treatment?"
Oooooooo.... You've made me verrry ANGRY,VERRRRY ANGRY INDEED! I will have to nuke you now, miserable earth creature...
With apologies to Mel Blanc.
You must be a swine of the profiteering type, a - *Ahem!* - Capitalist Pig. Just like the rest of them in first class.
LOL.
The big hardware players like IBM, HP and Compaq are likely tired of cow-towing to Bill & Co. every time they sell a machine. Linux means they can free themselves from any outside control in product development. It also levels the playing field for everyones hardware. Lastly, Linux is buying them mindshare from the people they need to support thier products - sysadmins, delvelopers and IT personnel in general - by introducing them to a *NIX variant, they get a toe-hold for thier proprietary versions of *NIX. No wonder they're all solidly behind Linux - it's good business.
It would seem they'd put the sniffer box on the same segment as your Internet router - all relevant traffic goes throught there. Multiple routers? Multiple NICs, or even multiple Carnivore boxes.
Besides, if you have a Cabletron, HP or other high-end switch, the firmware usually has a function that will mirror one port to another just for the purpose of sniffing - and they will likely have the court order (or subpoena or writ or whatever)forcing you to use it.
I'll admit, that if it were me facing such a court order to assist in using Carnivore, I'd trade some sc4ip7 kid33z ass for mine in an instant. Revolting, eh?
..isn't silicone used in other, more uh, cosmetic prosthesies? You mean silicon, I hope...
If he can only get the Kernel to do this on the fly...
...that besides buying Nullsoft, AOL acquired a clue at the same time?
Heh. "You bring the money, I'll bring my big ol' Clue Stick." LOL.
Before it's ported to Windoze, I'd submit the language spec to the IETF or something and have it declared a Worldwide Open Standard. Then no one can pollute it or de-rail it, without showing that they don't "subscribe to Open Standards". Maybe the authors should have Bjarne Stroustrup take a gander - he might provide a ton of help. I'm sure he would like to see this little beauty take a bite out of Java, and C# as well. Cool.
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So, looks like it happened on Oct. 8. Sheesh.
Anybody care to notice that the drop in the crime rate seems to mirror the economic prosperity that started circa 1992? This, by co-incidence, happens to be "due to the Internet", if you believe Gore and Bush. Just asking...
Unfortunately, you're right. The system is broken, for certain. However, the alternative you mentioned is probrably the lesser of the 2 evils.
Canada has guaranteed health care, and it works rather well, actually. There are some things that suck, like underpaid medical professionals, longer waits for surgery, etc., but for the most part people get the treatment they need. We do pay higher taxes to support the system, but at least if anyone is going to profit from sick people, it's the Government, which is elected by us. I'd have a real hard time buying health insurance from a company.
When you think of it, it's like the Insurance companies are trying to be Darwinian Agents - "if you've got this genetic anomality, you're likely to die soon since we won't insure you. Unless you have another trait (Big $) that can overcome this. We need to do this in order to survive ourselves." So, people will die in order that the Insurance company live - survival of the fittest.
As humans, we should be above this.
Jeez, Canada is being taken for Mars more all the time. We had that crappy Mars movie shot around Vancouver, and they spray painted an entire valley red. The Mars society is using the North to see how humans will survive up there. And now we have scientists telling us that the CLIMATE of Mars will be like north of the 49th?
I hereby propose that we Canucks grap about 750Ml (that's Mega-litres, or about 4.5 million gallons) of PFC producing white paint, 3 or 4 thousand beers, take the Avro Arrow out of mothballs, fly to Mars and lay down an enormous Canadian Flag on the surface. Should seem like home in a real short time.
Get the PDF - Stage 5 is in there in detail. It was a bitch indeed...
I knew that. Watts do seem like the natural thing to say, however. Joules/Hour just donesn't seem to cut it.
Gawd, College Physics is a long way off from here. Anybody know the best way to say "The Laptop sucks a quantity of power X from the battery in one Hour? 10 Amp-Hours maybe?