A reasonable tariff is zero. By your logic, they should go ahead and put me in prison for owning a gun "capable" of killing someone.
I said 'reasonable" meaning "not onerous" - it adds pennies to the price of a blank CD. Your example is way over the top.
Why does your country accept this idea of punishing everyone evenly for possible illegal use of something that is generally used for legal things?
It's not punishment. Its trying to be fair to everyone.
How come copiers aren't taxed? And who gets that tariff money?
Copiers aren't taxed since they don't affect the business models of book publishers to any great degree. The tariff money is supposed to be evenly divided amongst copyright holders.
We pay a reasonable tariff on blank media that has the ability to play back content protected by copyright. This is to compensate the artists for any violations of copyright due to selling blank media. It works out pretty well. Its Socialist in that we're trying to be fair to everyone.
SOCAN doesn't think anything is fair unless they say it is.
SOCAN - these people would have the government tax air if they could, since it is capable of carrying copyrighted material - is proposing a totally unreasonable tariff in order to ensure that they still control the channels of distribution. Make no mistake, this is not about getting money - it's about making sure some garage band in Sarnia doesn't produce a CD quality track, release it via p2p and suddenly everyone realises they don't need the big content companies anymore.
They could also "spin off" the hardware business into it's own entity, or sell it outright to an appropriate firm. That way there's two companies fighting different battles, with no chance of one dragging down the other.
Remember a companies executive branch has one mission: Increase shareholder value, not re-live the glory days.
Read the article - Tridge reverse engineered BitKeeper without once using BitKeeper or it's source code. By doing this, he was not bound to the BitKeeper license.
Seeing as Tridge is the main SAMBA dev, I think he has lots of experience doing reverse engineering work on closed systems with zero access to the source.
if we generate that high power desnity in nanomechanical system for even any reasonable time - wouldn't it just evaporate unless we find a very fast way of removing the power efficiently ?
Ummmm... I'd guess that the energy is being used as kinetic or mechanical energy - not heat. If I hadn't gotten into a Sunday Afternoon cocktail or two, I'd figure out the efficiency of this machine - I bet it'd be truly impressive.
Agreed. Read this to see what happens when ideology clashes with wanting the best tool for the job.
I understand where RMS is coming from - as the leader of the Free Software Foundation he needs to be squeaky clean as possible in espousing his ethics in order to be as effective as possible. I also know that as it is with most anything, Freedom is a dual edged sword, and cuts both ways. Freedom gained for some usually means Freedom lost for others.
If I could solve that dillema, I sure wouldn't be posting here, now. As it is my head hurts, and I need a drink. I'll let philosophers and kings work out the solution.
Most entreprise level desktops have Wake On LAN and PXE boot capability. You send a magic packet to each desktop to wakr it up, and then tell the PXE BIOS to boot ClusterKNoppix via TFTP.
It's not that hard to do, even for lazy sysadmins.
That's tangental to the point. Sun has been generous with free code/funding etc., but they still have a huge ego and think they can just walk in and take over Open Source.
Thier generosity doesn't need to be amplified - thier humility does.
Before the end of 2005, Sun will very largely _not_ be a proprietary software vendor. OpenSolaris in Q2, OpenOffice.org is already here, and they're already dropping hints about an OSS database and open sourcing their entire JES stack.
Not proprietary, eh? So RedHat or Novell or Debian will be able to use Sun's Open Solaris code in thier distros? Sure. Sun is not being collaborative with Linux at all - they want it dead so they can own the *nix industry again.
People try so very hard to paint Sun in an evil light, but it just doesn't work.
Evil, no - just a company that was once great hanging on to it's huberis and trying to put the OSS genie back in the bottle. Two links relevant to this discussion are here and here. Both demonstrate that Sun is not tryng to be Open in the sense of collaboration with it's peers - which normally benefits customers - it's trying to be Open in the sense of being buzzword compliant and owning of a market segment. IMHO, this won't happen.
Also, IMHO, the two biggest impediments to thier success in the new IT market are Schwartz and McNeally. Egos that big carry too much baggage.
Yeah, I know - I did consider my actions before I posted, and sort of regret it now. But, consider this:
1 - Most don't even know what I'm refering to. If they try and find out, it shows initiative and something of clue.
2 - If any pretenders deign post in the Hallowed Halls, they are usually reduced to a twitching pile of minced meat in very short order. It's a place where respect is truly earned - if you are undeserving, you and the rest of the world are notified in the most humbling way possible.
I had another manager who tried to go around me, when I was a new hire (I'm Regional IT Manager) - hadn't been there a month. In private I politely told him "I have no problem with you getting a bit of IT gear that you need if I'm not around - I just need to know that you've done it and what you bought. I have a budget too, and I also need to make sure anything IT related that comes in the building fits in our target architecture and doesn't cost too much."
He got a little out of joint because of that, but it became clear to him that he wasn't allowed to just buy whatever he needed without my approval, which is what he was used to doing. He's since turned out to be quite an ally - after that incident I let the subject drop and have also gone out of my way to help him when he needed it. I saw that he was an IT advocate, not someone trying to beat me down.
Besides Competence and Confidence, you need to be able to squelch you emotions and focus on what's important to the task at hand. People don't normally go out of thier way to show disrespect without zero cause - you should try to understand where the hostility is coming from.
If you need to rant against your cow-orkers, there's The Scary Devil Monastary, where such behaviour is accepted (and usually appreciated).
What's needed is anti-social bookmarking - like a robot that goes through my links and eliminates the ones that aren't necessary.
Great idea - let's call it Bender.
<you> Nice page. *bookmarks* <Bender> That page sucks. I'm not bookmarking it - I just finished cleaning out all those crappy human porn sites in your bookmarks - not a mechanical babe to be found in there at all. You can bite my XML 1.1 compliant ass. <you> eep.
The Linux PPC devs have a narrower set of hardware to support - you know pretty well what's in a iBook. The same cannot be said for x86 systems. I have a year old Dell D800 that still has a bit of trouble regarding ACPI events.
As well, iBooks aren't too terribly over priced, they are normally very well constructed - IOW it's a nice notebook. The icing on the cake is Mac on Linux - where you quite literally get to have your cake and eat it too.
That's fantastic! Hey, what a deal. A useable office suite for *free*.
Too bad OOo touts itself as Free Software, not free software. # years from now when Sun charges big $ for thier IP, you be all happy about how great they are. Ha ha. Heh.
OK, so I'll get flamed by all of the Sun fanbois in here who still see them as computerdom's saviour - I don't care. I won't trust Sun until they set in stone that they will not attack Free software. Hey people, the 90's called, and they want thier heros back.
McNeally and Schwartz have become souless suits - they'll mow over anyone if it means increasing shareholder value - and they're taking a once great company down that very path. How sad.
Informative? This is common knnowledge, or should be to any admin who's been on the job for more than a day or two.
Where have all the BOFHs gone? In my day, that candy bar would be 6o grams or so of C4 nougat with 3 remote detonator almonds all covered in a delicious chocolatey coating.
The PearPC guys are giving their product away for free, and only ask that if you build off their product that you contribute back to the free project. The RIAA (and whatever the fuck the Austrialian equivalent is) are screwing artists out of a good living, overcharging for thier product by maintaining an artifical lock on distribution, and discouraging new/interesting music because having just a few big name bands is more profitable. Your comparison isn't valid.
Lady Justice has a blindfold for a reason. Are the RIAA doing what you said? Yup. Does that make it right to flout the law - a law that we need in order to protect GPLed code?
I don't understand why the 'little people' (us) have to paint everything black and white while the bastards with all the power can come up with any old justification to do what they want. This isn't hypocrisy. If you're not going to show me any decency and respect, I'm under no obligation to do the same for you. I just wish people weren't such a bunch of dumb fucks that they can't see the distinction, and then maybe reform the system for everyone's benefit (except the record producers, my they and their ilk rot in hell).
Maybe not hypocracy, but it is becoming judge and jury on your own. I agree that the record execs should rot in hell, but I don't think we should aribitrarily apply laws based on whether the person/thing/entity being harmed is evil or not.
If we really want to get the attention of the RIAA, we don't give them once red cent, or even the opportunity to get our hard earned cash through litigation. When the RIAAs pockets are a lot more empty, they'll listen, and not until.
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A reasonable tariff is zero. By your logic, they should go ahead and put me in prison for owning a gun "capable" of killing someone.
I said 'reasonable" meaning "not onerous" - it adds pennies to the price of a blank CD. Your example is way over the top.
Why does your country accept this idea of punishing everyone evenly for possible illegal use of something that is generally used for legal things?
It's not punishment. Its trying to be fair to everyone.
How come copiers aren't taxed? And who gets that tariff money?
Copiers aren't taxed since they don't affect the business models of book publishers to any great degree. The tariff money is supposed to be evenly divided amongst copyright holders.
Soko
We pay a reasonable tariff on blank media that has the ability to play back content protected by copyright. This is to compensate the artists for any violations of copyright due to selling blank media. It works out pretty well. Its Socialist in that we're trying to be fair to everyone.
SOCAN doesn't think anything is fair unless they say it is.
SOCAN - these people would have the government tax air if they could, since it is capable of carrying copyrighted material - is proposing a totally unreasonable tariff in order to ensure that they still control the channels of distribution. Make no mistake, this is not about getting money - it's about making sure some garage band in Sarnia doesn't produce a CD quality track, release it via p2p and suddenly everyone realises they don't need the big content companies anymore.
That's what al the bluster is about.
Soko
What "training aid" will ship with these gloves? Virtual handball?
Well, since the 'net runs on pr0n...
Soko
I read "Maureen O'Gara reports" and backed away.
There's no way I'm giving clicks to the likes of her - she's worse than Laura DiDio.
May they both end up crying into thier afternoon tea when SCO is nothing but a little smudge of red ink on the floor of the Utah desert.
Soko
You could be right.
They could also "spin off" the hardware business into it's own entity, or sell it outright to an appropriate firm. That way there's two companies fighting different battles, with no chance of one dragging down the other.
Remember a companies executive branch has one mission: Increase shareholder value , not re-live the glory days.
Soko
Read the article - Tridge reverse engineered BitKeeper without once using BitKeeper or it's source code. By doing this, he was not bound to the BitKeeper license.
/. hypocracy this time.
Seeing as Tridge is the main SAMBA dev, I think he has lots of experience doing reverse engineering work on closed systems with zero access to the source.
Sorry, not
Soko
Four OC48s to the internet? Wow. I'm sure any RIAA goons reading this thread just shit themselves.
Brought a smile to my face too.
Soko
if we generate that high power desnity in nanomechanical system for even any reasonable time - wouldn't it just evaporate unless we find a very fast way of removing the power efficiently ?
Ummmm... I'd guess that the energy is being used as kinetic or mechanical energy - not heat. If I hadn't gotten into a Sunday Afternoon cocktail or two, I'd figure out the efficiency of this machine - I bet it'd be truly impressive.
Soko
Agreed. Read this to see what happens when ideology clashes with wanting the best tool for the job.
I understand where RMS is coming from - as the leader of the Free Software Foundation he needs to be squeaky clean as possible in espousing his ethics in order to be as effective as possible. I also know that as it is with most anything, Freedom is a dual edged sword, and cuts both ways. Freedom gained for some usually means Freedom lost for others.
If I could solve that dillema, I sure wouldn't be posting here, now. As it is my head hurts, and I need a drink. I'll let philosophers and kings work out the solution.
Soko
No.
Most entreprise level desktops have Wake On LAN and PXE boot capability. You send a magic packet to each desktop to wakr it up, and then tell the PXE BIOS to boot ClusterKNoppix via TFTP.
It's not that hard to do, even for lazy sysadmins.
Soko
CHAOS is designed to provide dumb node power to a cluster
Hell, my nodes are occupied by the dumb during the day, too. Have we found an actual productive use for lusers?
Soko
That's tangental to the point. Sun has been generous with free code/funding etc., but they still have a huge ego and think they can just walk in and take over Open Source.
Thier generosity doesn't need to be amplified - thier humility does.
Soko
Before the end of 2005, Sun will very largely _not_ be a proprietary software vendor. OpenSolaris in Q2, OpenOffice.org is already here, and they're already dropping hints about an OSS database and open sourcing their entire JES stack.
Not proprietary, eh? So RedHat or Novell or Debian will be able to use Sun's Open Solaris code in thier distros? Sure. Sun is not being collaborative with Linux at all - they want it dead so they can own the *nix industry again.
People try so very hard to paint Sun in an evil light, but it just doesn't work.
Evil, no - just a company that was once great hanging on to it's huberis and trying to put the OSS genie back in the bottle. Two links relevant to this discussion are here and here. Both demonstrate that Sun is not tryng to be Open in the sense of collaboration with it's peers - which normally benefits customers - it's trying to be Open in the sense of being buzzword compliant and owning of a market segment. IMHO, this won't happen.
Also, IMHO, the two biggest impediments to thier success in the new IT market are Schwartz and McNeally. Egos that big carry too much baggage.
Soko
I think teh wife gave Taco a fifth of Tequilla and a straw for April Fools.
I imagine Taco thinks of hisself as a BOFH - and we're the lusers. BOFH+Tequilla = make_mincemeat_of($any_luser).
I for one am jealous of having such a powerful LART as the Slashdot Effect is in dealing with my brainless lusers (REDUNDANT!)...
Soko
Yeah, I know - I did consider my actions before I posted, and sort of regret it now. But, consider this:
1 - Most don't even know what I'm refering to. If they try and find out, it shows initiative and something of clue.
2 - If any pretenders deign post in the Hallowed Halls, they are usually reduced to a twitching pile of minced meat in very short order. It's a place where respect is truly earned - if you are undeserving, you and the rest of the world are notified in the most humbling way possible.
I've said enough.
Soko
Exactly.
I had another manager who tried to go around me, when I was a new hire (I'm Regional IT Manager) - hadn't been there a month. In private I politely told him "I have no problem with you getting a bit of IT gear that you need if I'm not around - I just need to know that you've done it and what you bought. I have a budget too, and I also need to make sure anything IT related that comes in the building fits in our target architecture and doesn't cost too much."
He got a little out of joint because of that, but it became clear to him that he wasn't allowed to just buy whatever he needed without my approval, which is what he was used to doing. He's since turned out to be quite an ally - after that incident I let the subject drop and have also gone out of my way to help him when he needed it. I saw that he was an IT advocate, not someone trying to beat me down.
Besides Competence and Confidence, you need to be able to squelch you emotions and focus on what's important to the task at hand. People don't normally go out of thier way to show disrespect without zero cause - you should try to understand where the hostility is coming from.
If you need to rant against your cow-orkers, there's The Scary Devil Monastary, where such behaviour is accepted (and usually appreciated).
Soko
What's needed is anti-social bookmarking - like a robot that goes through my links and eliminates the ones that aren't necessary.
Great idea - let's call it Bender.
<you> Nice page. *bookmarks*
<Bender> That page sucks. I'm not bookmarking it - I just finished cleaning out all those crappy human porn sites in your bookmarks - not a mechanical babe to be found in there at all. You can bite my XML 1.1 compliant ass.
<you> eep.
Soko
It's actually the PPC equiv of VMWare/Bochs - you get a complete virtual Mac inside your linux install.
I'm currently waiting impatiently for my G5 to get here so I can try it out.
Soko
The Linux PPC devs have a narrower set of hardware to support - you know pretty well what's in a iBook. The same cannot be said for x86 systems. I have a year old Dell D800 that still has a bit of trouble regarding ACPI events.
As well, iBooks aren't too terribly over priced, they are normally very well constructed - IOW it's a nice notebook. The icing on the cake is Mac on Linux - where you quite literally get to have your cake and eat it too.
Soko
That's fantastic! Hey, what a deal. A useable office suite for *free*.
Too bad OOo touts itself as Free Software, not free software. # years from now when Sun charges big $ for thier IP, you be all happy about how great they are. Ha ha. Heh.
OK, so I'll get flamed by all of the Sun fanbois in here who still see them as computerdom's saviour - I don't care. I won't trust Sun until they set in stone that they will not attack Free software. Hey people, the 90's called, and they want thier heros back.
McNeally and Schwartz have become souless suits - they'll mow over anyone if it means increasing shareholder value - and they're taking a once great company down that very path. How sad.
End rant.
Soko
IMVHO, ubuntu is Debian Done Right.
Check it out - I'm certain that they'd like the help of a high profile advocate like Bruce Perens.
Soko
I'm sure that all this bad press for the IRS must be really taxing.
Sorry.
No problem.
We now return you to your regularlly scheduled discussion.
Soko
Informative? This is common knnowledge, or should be to any admin who's been on the job for more than a day or two.
Where have all the BOFHs gone? In my day, that candy bar would be 6o grams or so of C4 nougat with 3 remote detonator almonds all covered in a delicious chocolatey coating.
Kids - no sense of history.
Soko
The PearPC guys are giving their product away for free, and only ask that if you build off their product that you contribute back to the free project. The RIAA (and whatever the fuck the Austrialian equivalent is) are screwing artists out of a good living, overcharging for thier product by maintaining an artifical lock on distribution, and discouraging new/interesting music because having just a few big name bands is more profitable. Your comparison isn't valid.
Lady Justice has a blindfold for a reason. Are the RIAA doing what you said? Yup. Does that make it right to flout the law - a law that we need in order to protect GPLed code?
I don't understand why the 'little people' (us) have to paint everything black and white while the bastards with all the power can come up with any old justification to do what they want. This isn't hypocrisy. If you're not going to show me any decency and respect, I'm under no obligation to do the same for you. I just wish people weren't such a bunch of dumb fucks that they can't see the distinction, and then maybe reform the system for everyone's benefit (except the record producers, my they and their ilk rot in hell).
Maybe not hypocracy, but it is becoming judge and jury on your own. I agree that the record execs should rot in hell, but I don't think we should aribitrarily apply laws based on whether the person/thing/entity being harmed is evil or not.
If we really want to get the attention of the RIAA, we don't give them once red cent, or even the opportunity to get our hard earned cash through litigation. When the RIAAs pockets are a lot more empty, they'll listen, and not until.
Soko
>>what is best for customers... any time i hear a microsoft spoksmen say that, i laugh my ass off jordan
OK, but who is jordan and why is your ass on him ?
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Soko