"Then, maybe, just maybe, I could consider buying a Mac. But then again, more factories like Foxconn wouldn't exactly be great."
Right. Because those Foxconn components in your Dell, HP, or Lenovo PC, or Android phone are made by the *not* evil Foxconn. You know, the one in Iowa where everyone makes UAW level wages, gets free health care and plenty of paid time off.....
Nope, Same rules apply. No electronics below ten thousand feet for commercial aircraft. Affect in the pilots? Nil, since they're kinda busy from 0 to 10k anyway.
Firefox seems to be spiraling out of control in the name of its own mission statement.
The reaction to the numbering scheme has been strongly negative. The enterprise mailing list was launched ostensibly in an effort to "communicate" with enterprise users and see what Mozilla could do to bridge the gap between the needs of enterprise and the state of firefox. The community has laid out the two simple concepts that have had us in enterprise either most up in arms or would most like to see. Those requests have fallen on ears that are either willfully sealed shut, or passively hoping that the status quo is gonna be ok. It's been a handful of the Mozilla team doing little more than trying to find new and creative ways to say "Enterprise doesn't fit our mission statement, so you can all just fork off" without coming out and saying it. We've said what we need, and the response has been a deafening "That's nice, we're gonna keep doing what we're doing."
I can't see a good future for Firefox at this point. 3.6 is starting to look more and more like Netscape 4.7 to me. The highwater mark before things began rolling back. They could have changed the world, but they seem hell bent and whiskey bound on sitting in their sandbox.
People seem to think evolution is akin to this situation: "I was walking down third street just past the bank when I looked down and found a 1999 series A twenty dollar bill that happened to appear on the ground about six inches from the no parking sign, so I picked it up and put it in my left pants pocket." Evolution is more along the lines of "I found some money on the ground."
In this case, the rats probably evolved the hollow hairs for a reason (IIRC these aren't uncommon in the animal kingdom. Isn't polar bear fur the same way? A series of (hollow) tubes?), the plant evolved poison for obvious reasons, and the two working together is more a case of happy natural symbiosis than it is plain old fashioned evolution.
I'm curious if the plant chewing and bathing routines are unique to just this rat, or if they all do it.
What do you suggest Mozilla _not_ work on to do that?
The 15 different iterations of the search / address bar that we've had in the last couple months would be a nice start. They could also merge existing projects such as Frontmotion's work into their own rather than reinvent the wheel....
"1. MSI for deployment. 2. GPO management. 3. Mozilla branding and support for the above, so I can automatically update the browser.
That's the peanut butter and jelly for enterprise. I can get the first two from other people"
Auto update of the browser does not work with FM for obvious reasons. I can re-push via GPO, but then I get the Frontmotion branding back (getting rid of icons is trivial, but it's still a pain in the ass. FM 3 required some reg hacks, 4 at least seems to be sane enough to just dump a shortcut in All Users.) Is it really that hard for mozilla to say "damn, these guys have their shit together. Maybe we should be doing exactly this."
I'll follow and contribute as much as I can, hoping that something changes, but having the cold expectation that nothing will. On the windows side, FF essentially needs three things:
1. MSI for deployment. 2. GPO management. 3. Mozilla branding and support for the above, so I can automatically update the browser.
That's the peanut butter and jelly for enterprise. I can get the first two from other people, why not you guys? Why it has taken this long to get to this point is beyond me. Seriously, the 'battles' between chrome, opera, and firefox are like watching soccer moms fight to the death over the last tickle me elmo at a Walmart when there's a toy store next door with aisles full of the same toy, cheaper. Seriously, do you guys want to keep scratching with each other over grandma's machine, or do you guys want people like me to push your product to 50 machines at once, and let 50 people *see and use* your browser, learn for themselves that it's better, and take it home with them?
No, one of the devs on one of the teams basically said "fuck enterprise", while several folks from the foundation showed up in the slashdot thread to say "He doesn't speak for all of us."
Yeah, the "We should tip" article from a broad who leveraged music that she lucked into thanks to a shotgun shell and a large dose of heroin into a 30 million dollar fortune through the same folks she's decrying in an article from ten years ago. The artists that contributed to Nirvana's work get dick compared to the woman that just so happened to end up with the publishing rights.
Frontmotion does the ADM / GPO / MSI thing. You just need to go through some extra hoops to make it 'look' like firefox, which sort of negates the MSI deployment, but it's easy enough to roll into an image. Why the Mozilla foundation can't wrap this around they're heads is beyond me. Penis wagging at it's finest apparently.
I've spent more than enough time using 3rd party add-ons or rollups to make firefox work in enterprise. Not even a massive rollout, 50-60 machines, maybe a hundred or so users. I've been working with FF since 2.0 and I'm really reaching the point where, even though it's not as fast or safe, I'm ready to just chuck FF and go back to IE.
This is such a terrible oversight. Simple things like being able to deploy silently and centrally mange basic settings like proxy and homepage are NOT. THAT. HARD. Why do I have to go to someone like Front motion to get these simple options then go jump through some more hoops to repackage it as 'firefox' (which is a fucking joke in and of itself. 'Hey, look, someone's offering features that are really popular and useful, we better start swinging the trademark stick rather that trying to integrate these features)? Why leave enterprise to fend for itself? Why not make some hay while the sun shines against chrome and opera, who are equally as shitty in the enterprise? WHY MAKE IT HARDER FOR THE GUYS WHO CAN ROLL YOUR BROSWER OUT TO HUNDREDS OF USERS AT A TIME? But hey, yeah, keep devoting effort to super-mega-ultra-uber-teh-specialz bar 2.0 Xtreme, keep thinking that moving the home button and dicking with tabs constitutes innovation, and keep rolling out new versions every 37 seconds (because if Spinal Tap taught us anything, it's that 11 is one better than 10. So FF5 must be one better than FF4.) For fucks sake, they don't even provide an official MSI. The brower's icon should have a pair of hipster glasses on the fox. "MSI's and GPO's are so mainstream..."
Mozilla is starting to make me think of Hunter S. Thompson quote from Fear and Loathing: "So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark—that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back."
In ten or so years when Facebook goes the way of AOL (Because, lets be honest, facebook will somehow die. Eventually.) the Winkelvoss twins will be the ones who came out ahead.
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Ford also built the Bombers that dropped the majority of America's bombs (B-24's dropped more bombs by tonnage than B-17's. They flew higher, farther, and faster than the B-17. Ford broke ground on the Willow Run bomber plant in late 1941 and revolutionized Consolidated aircraft's borderline archaic production techniques) on the Nazi empire. Had the Nazi's won the war we'd be reading about those "war crimes."
Of course Ford was as senile as a brick by the end of the 30's. His anti-semitism did not make him unique for the era, nor did it mean his company's business in Germany was a direct means of wiping out the evils of Judaism. Ford's goal, in anything, was making money. Government contracts in Germany were the best way to make money. Dollar first, principle second. See; any business dealing....ever.
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"we are not talking about Ford here. a truck can be used for anything."
"the punch card systems had to be specifically designed, and then an IBM technician had to specifically go and maintain them, "
Because punch cards are specifically designed to kill people......
Trucks are trucks, data is data. The world as a whole didn't have much trouble with the Nazi's up through 1936, and even then it was another three years before the war broke out.
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You must have missed the part where the Nazi regime decided to stuff people they didn't like into camps while starving them, beating them, working them to the bone, then executing them.
Personally, I believe if you're going to hold IBM (or Ford or Bayer or any other trendy 'you helped the holocaust' company) responsible, then you should also hold trees responsible. Trees provided the wood that built the guard towers, that held the barbed wire fences in place, and built the barracks. Bricks, fire, lead, and rope should also be investigated.
"As with all these sorts of things, the problems lie in the services and publishers, not with the technology."
and that was the problem with the 1984 issue to begin with. Amazon was stuck between a rock and a hard place. They sold what they (apparently unknowingly) didn't have the right in the first place, thanks to the convoluted publishing rights and a less than reputable publisher. It was either delete the books, which was handled poorly, or go to court where they'd have been told to turn over the sales receipts. The case wouldn't have been much different than selling stolen property at that point (which, granted, brings up the 'is digital media 'property' case.)
"The thing about Code Monkey's story that I think resonates the most for people is how beaten down he is. He's trapped, but tragically, only by his own self doubt and inaction. I don't want to be the guy who just tells everyone how great their lives would be if they quit their jobs, but for many people there's less justification than ever before for staying in a work situation that isn't rewarding for you. If you want to do stuff, go and do stuff. Who is stopping you?"
1943 was probably my favorite NES game. I wasted many an hour and shirked many a homework assignment for that game. But even in elementary school I could pick out the glaring historical inaccuracies. Still a fantastic game, better than 1942. I saw some copies of 1944 floating around, but never got a chance to load em up.
We actually met up at the A2 slashdot tenth birthday celebration, so I already have a t-shirt. But, I'm also the admin for Yankee Air Museum , home to a flying B-17, B-25, and C-47. I offered then, and it still stands. I think something can be arraigned.
True, but at the same time if their best piece of evidence is that he could have done it because he had the know-how, then god help anyone who is a VoIP engineer,
From what I read, it's the other way around. *His* best piece of evidence that he *didn't* kill her is that his wife called him from home when the prosecution alleges she was already dead, which suddenly makes his VoIP experience very relevant. It is Columbo-esqe however, in that the accused has apparently tried to play the "I'm smarter than you, so I'll get away with it" game. That worked out pretty well for Hans Reiser, too.
"At 12:30 PM PDT on April 24, we had finished the volumes that we could recover in this way and had recovered all but 1.04% of the affected volumes. At this point, the team began forensics on the remaining volumes which had suffered machine failure and for which we had not been able to take a snapshot. At 3:00 PM PDT, the team began restoring these. Ultimately, 0.07% of the volumes in the affected Availability Zone could not be restored for customers in a consistent state."
Greenpeace. MADD. PETA. At some point the folks running those organizations realized there was good money in ostensibly working towards a cause that no one could disagree with. Now they're all just run by self serving publicity whores, all chanting the same mantra of "Give us money, or else you hate (mother earth) (grieving mothers) (cute puppies), and you wouldn't want to be known as someone who hates (mother earth) (grieving mothers) (cute puppies) this close to re-election season, would you?"
True on the graphics but.....Nintendo is losing ground to the PS3 because of the blu-ray player, and the fact that a PS3, or a 360, actually have the processing power to stand up to doing some steaming. My wii tends to chortle and gag on standard def Youtube videos that run more than 5 minutes. Nintendo beat everyone to the punch with cool features, but didn't come to the plate with enough horsepower. Also, not supporting 1080p at this point is like a car that runs on leaded gas. When the Wii hit the scene, 480p was still "HD." Now? Wal-Mart's selling 1080p, and 720 gets you laughed out the door.
DVD/Blu-ray would be nice in a Wii 2 (won't happen), but lets at least get a decent hardware base in first. CPU, Memory, HD Output, and Storage. The Wii is dead last in all four, and by a Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide margin. 360's and Ps3's represent a convergence of devices that give them a nice extra selling point (I could probably get the wife to go for a PS3 now, since it'd offer Hi-def streaming from Netflix or Amazon and it wouldn't look like crap on our TV, and it'd be a blu-ray player.) Nintendo can't make the mistake of thinking that simply making the best game console is enough to even be a player in the console wars.
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"Then, maybe, just maybe, I could consider buying a Mac. But then again, more factories like Foxconn wouldn't exactly be great."
Right. Because those Foxconn components in your Dell, HP, or Lenovo PC, or Android phone are made by the *not* evil Foxconn. You know, the one in Iowa where everyone makes UAW level wages, gets free health care and plenty of paid time off.....
Nope, Same rules apply. No electronics below ten thousand feet for commercial aircraft. Affect in the pilots? Nil, since they're kinda busy from 0 to 10k anyway.
Firefox seems to be spiraling out of control in the name of its own mission statement.
The reaction to the numbering scheme has been strongly negative. The enterprise mailing list was launched ostensibly in an effort to "communicate" with enterprise users and see what Mozilla could do to bridge the gap between the needs of enterprise and the state of firefox. The community has laid out the two simple concepts that have had us in enterprise either most up in arms or would most like to see. Those requests have fallen on ears that are either willfully sealed shut, or passively hoping that the status quo is gonna be ok. It's been a handful of the Mozilla team doing little more than trying to find new and creative ways to say "Enterprise doesn't fit our mission statement, so you can all just fork off" without coming out and saying it. We've said what we need, and the response has been a deafening "That's nice, we're gonna keep doing what we're doing."
I can't see a good future for Firefox at this point. 3.6 is starting to look more and more like Netscape 4.7 to me. The highwater mark before things began rolling back. They could have changed the world, but they seem hell bent and whiskey bound on sitting in their sandbox.
People seem to think evolution is akin to this situation: "I was walking down third street just past the bank when I looked down and found a 1999 series A twenty dollar bill that happened to appear on the ground about six inches from the no parking sign, so I picked it up and put it in my left pants pocket." Evolution is more along the lines of "I found some money on the ground."
In this case, the rats probably evolved the hollow hairs for a reason (IIRC these aren't uncommon in the animal kingdom. Isn't polar bear fur the same way? A series of (hollow) tubes?), the plant evolved poison for obvious reasons, and the two working together is more a case of happy natural symbiosis than it is plain old fashioned evolution.
I'm curious if the plant chewing and bathing routines are unique to just this rat, or if they all do it.
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
What do you suggest Mozilla _not_ work on to do that?
The 15 different iterations of the search / address bar that we've had in the last couple months would be a nice start. They could also merge existing projects such as Frontmotion's work into their own rather than reinvent the wheel....
Read that list again:
"1. MSI for deployment.
2. GPO management.
3. Mozilla branding and support for the above, so I can automatically update the browser.
That's the peanut butter and jelly for enterprise. I can get the first two from other people"
Auto update of the browser does not work with FM for obvious reasons. I can re-push via GPO, but then I get the Frontmotion branding back (getting rid of icons is trivial, but it's still a pain in the ass. FM 3 required some reg hacks, 4 at least seems to be sane enough to just dump a shortcut in All Users.) Is it really that hard for mozilla to say "damn, these guys have their shit together. Maybe we should be doing exactly this."
I'll follow and contribute as much as I can, hoping that something changes, but having the cold expectation that nothing will. On the windows side, FF essentially needs three things:
1. MSI for deployment.
2. GPO management.
3. Mozilla branding and support for the above, so I can automatically update the browser.
That's the peanut butter and jelly for enterprise. I can get the first two from other people, why not you guys? Why it has taken this long to get to this point is beyond me. Seriously, the 'battles' between chrome, opera, and firefox are like watching soccer moms fight to the death over the last tickle me elmo at a Walmart when there's a toy store next door with aisles full of the same toy, cheaper. Seriously, do you guys want to keep scratching with each other over grandma's machine, or do you guys want people like me to push your product to 50 machines at once, and let 50 people *see and use* your browser, learn for themselves that it's better, and take it home with them?
No, one of the devs on one of the teams basically said "fuck enterprise", while several folks from the foundation showed up in the slashdot thread to say "He doesn't speak for all of us."
Yeah, the "We should tip" article from a broad who leveraged music that she lucked into thanks to a shotgun shell and a large dose of heroin into a 30 million dollar fortune through the same folks she's decrying in an article from ten years ago. The artists that contributed to Nirvana's work get dick compared to the woman that just so happened to end up with the publishing rights.
Frontmotion does the ADM / GPO / MSI thing. You just need to go through some extra hoops to make it 'look' like firefox, which sort of negates the MSI deployment, but it's easy enough to roll into an image. Why the Mozilla foundation can't wrap this around they're heads is beyond me. Penis wagging at it's finest apparently.
http://www.frontmotion.com/FMFirefoxCE/
I've spent more than enough time using 3rd party add-ons or rollups to make firefox work in enterprise. Not even a massive rollout, 50-60 machines, maybe a hundred or so users. I've been working with FF since 2.0 and I'm really reaching the point where, even though it's not as fast or safe, I'm ready to just chuck FF and go back to IE.
This is such a terrible oversight. Simple things like being able to deploy silently and centrally mange basic settings like proxy and homepage are NOT. THAT. HARD. Why do I have to go to someone like Front motion to get these simple options then go jump through some more hoops to repackage it as 'firefox' (which is a fucking joke in and of itself. 'Hey, look, someone's offering features that are really popular and useful, we better start swinging the trademark stick rather that trying to integrate these features)? Why leave enterprise to fend for itself? Why not make some hay while the sun shines against chrome and opera, who are equally as shitty in the enterprise? WHY MAKE IT HARDER FOR THE GUYS WHO CAN ROLL YOUR BROSWER OUT TO HUNDREDS OF USERS AT A TIME? But hey, yeah, keep devoting effort to super-mega-ultra-uber-teh-specialz bar 2.0 Xtreme, keep thinking that moving the home button and dicking with tabs constitutes innovation, and keep rolling out new versions every 37 seconds (because if Spinal Tap taught us anything, it's that 11 is one better than 10. So FF5 must be one better than FF4.) For fucks sake, they don't even provide an official MSI. The brower's icon should have a pair of hipster glasses on the fox. "MSI's and GPO's are so mainstream..."
Mozilla is starting to make me think of Hunter S. Thompson quote from Fear and Loathing: "So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark—that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back."
In ten or so years when Facebook goes the way of AOL (Because, lets be honest, facebook will somehow die. Eventually.) the Winkelvoss twins will be the ones who came out ahead.
Ford also built the Bombers that dropped the majority of America's bombs (B-24's dropped more bombs by tonnage than B-17's. They flew higher, farther, and faster than the B-17. Ford broke ground on the Willow Run bomber plant in late 1941 and revolutionized Consolidated aircraft's borderline archaic production techniques) on the Nazi empire. Had the Nazi's won the war we'd be reading about those "war crimes."
Of course Ford was as senile as a brick by the end of the 30's. His anti-semitism did not make him unique for the era, nor did it mean his company's business in Germany was a direct means of wiping out the evils of Judaism. Ford's goal, in anything, was making money. Government contracts in Germany were the best way to make money. Dollar first, principle second. See; any business dealing....ever.
"we are not talking about Ford here. a truck can be used for anything."
"the punch card systems had to be specifically designed, and then an IBM technician had to specifically go and maintain them, "
Because punch cards are specifically designed to kill people......
Trucks are trucks, data is data. The world as a whole didn't have much trouble with the Nazi's up through 1936, and even then it was another three years before the war broke out.
You must have missed the part where the Nazi regime decided to stuff people they didn't like into camps while starving them, beating them, working them to the bone, then executing them.
Personally, I believe if you're going to hold IBM (or Ford or Bayer or any other trendy 'you helped the holocaust' company) responsible, then you should also hold trees responsible. Trees provided the wood that built the guard towers, that held the barbed wire fences in place, and built the barracks. Bricks, fire, lead, and rope should also be investigated.
"As with all these sorts of things, the problems lie in the services and publishers, not with the technology."
and that was the problem with the 1984 issue to begin with. Amazon was stuck between a rock and a hard place. They sold what they (apparently unknowingly) didn't have the right in the first place, thanks to the convoluted publishing rights and a less than reputable publisher. It was either delete the books, which was handled poorly, or go to court where they'd have been told to turn over the sales receipts. The case wouldn't have been much different than selling stolen property at that point (which, granted, brings up the 'is digital media 'property' case.)
(Looks through his O'reilly book collection, consisting of a variety of formats including PDF, or grown-up big boy DRM free ebooks)
(Browses project gutenberg for a while)
Yep. Damn near impossible to find. Real needle in a haystack.
The Amazon 1984 case is overblown.
"The thing about Code Monkey's story that I think resonates the most for people is how beaten down he is. He's trapped, but tragically, only by his own self doubt and inaction. I don't want to be the guy who just tells everyone how great their lives would be if they quit their jobs, but for many people there's less justification than ever before for staying in a work situation that isn't rewarding for you. If you want to do stuff, go and do stuff. Who is stopping you?"
That's a pretty fucking solid statement there.
1943 was probably my favorite NES game. I wasted many an hour and shirked many a homework assignment for that game. But even in elementary school I could pick out the glaring historical inaccuracies. Still a fantastic game, better than 1942. I saw some copies of 1944 floating around, but never got a chance to load em up.
We actually met up at the A2 slashdot tenth birthday celebration, so I already have a t-shirt. But, I'm also the admin for Yankee Air Museum , home to a flying B-17, B-25, and C-47. I offered then, and it still stands. I think something can be arraigned.
True, but at the same time if their best piece of evidence is that he could have done it because he had the know-how, then god help anyone who is a VoIP engineer,
From what I read, it's the other way around. *His* best piece of evidence that he *didn't* kill her is that his wife called him from home when the prosecution alleges she was already dead, which suddenly makes his VoIP experience very relevant. It is Columbo-esqe however, in that the accused has apparently tried to play the "I'm smarter than you, so I'll get away with it" game. That worked out pretty well for Hans Reiser, too.
"At 12:30 PM PDT on April 24, we had finished the volumes that we could recover in this way and had recovered all but 1.04% of the affected volumes. At this point, the team began forensics on the remaining volumes which had suffered machine failure and for which we had not been able to take a snapshot. At 3:00 PM PDT, the team began restoring these. Ultimately, 0.07% of the volumes in the affected Availability Zone could not be restored for customers in a consistent state."
Greenpeace. MADD. PETA. At some point the folks running those organizations realized there was good money in ostensibly working towards a cause that no one could disagree with. Now they're all just run by self serving publicity whores, all chanting the same mantra of "Give us money, or else you hate (mother earth) (grieving mothers) (cute puppies), and you wouldn't want to be known as someone who hates (mother earth) (grieving mothers) (cute puppies) this close to re-election season, would you?"
True on the graphics but.....Nintendo is losing ground to the PS3 because of the blu-ray player, and the fact that a PS3, or a 360, actually have the processing power to stand up to doing some steaming. My wii tends to chortle and gag on standard def Youtube videos that run more than 5 minutes. Nintendo beat everyone to the punch with cool features, but didn't come to the plate with enough horsepower. Also, not supporting 1080p at this point is like a car that runs on leaded gas. When the Wii hit the scene, 480p was still "HD." Now? Wal-Mart's selling 1080p, and 720 gets you laughed out the door.
DVD/Blu-ray would be nice in a Wii 2 (won't happen), but lets at least get a decent hardware base in first. CPU, Memory, HD Output, and Storage. The Wii is dead last in all four, and by a Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide margin. 360's and Ps3's represent a convergence of devices that give them a nice extra selling point (I could probably get the wife to go for a PS3 now, since it'd offer Hi-def streaming from Netflix or Amazon and it wouldn't look like crap on our TV, and it'd be a blu-ray player.) Nintendo can't make the mistake of thinking that simply making the best game console is enough to even be a player in the console wars.