I say, ah an interesting link, and I click it. What is the first thing I see ? The stupid people making that page dont even know the difference between Sweden and Norway. Now that's very very impressive, i think i gonna just believe the rest of the page..:D Oh wait....
Doing is is illegal, and could get you in prison for a _very_ long time. (I think the maximum penalty is like 50 years or something, not sure if that's the US or UK or.. )
I dont think your math is entirely correct. The whole thing fails because the two persons have to determine and make a combined decision. So, if both persons make the correct guess, that a true spam is spam, it seems logical to think it is.
But if you have two persons, you actually increase the risk that someone makes an incorrect assumption about the spam. Ie, you have two chances of failure. So even if you reduce the probability that _both_ persons would incorrectly classify a mail as spam, you increase the probability that one will. So how do you deal with that situation ?
True spam, A(spam),b(!spam) -> decision ?
True !spam A(spam, b(!spam) -> decision ?
The problem that occurs can be reduced by having an additional person, and a majority voting process in the end. The chance that a majority of voters would misclassify the mail is very low. You could also stay put with your two algorithms and have a "revote", assuming that the algorithm is not statical (ie will come up with the same decision all the time).
This leads us to the key issue. The algorithms are most likely statical. That means
A: You must have two different algorithms in your case
B: Revote doesnt work
So i'd suggest setting up three different spam filters a middleman voting system. Or you could just click "delete" yourself:)
I think he meant that it was the _ONLY_ thing his Anti-something license contained (no #2,#3, no includes, nothing more). And it is still incompatible with the GPL.
Atleast I want to give credits to IBM for an excellent replacement procedure, I have received two new drives without any hazzles what so ever. Impressive actually, considering the trouble I've had trying to get replacement ASUS Graphic cards etc...
I could have agreed with you if we were talking different versions of "free" beer/libre. When using a closed product like MS Windows, you dont know from one day to another if the whole licensing process will change, whether they will extend support or just quit an entire product line etc. If they do quit, there is no way you can continue to patch your systems.
Re 3:drivers come on CDs these days
The grandparent poster did not say anything about floppys, and I totally agree with him. I have two PC systems, on with an Asus A7V and one with an ABit KT7 mainboard. NEITHER are usable without the latest versions of VIA 4in1-drivers. The built-in drivers that ships with Windows are old and outdated already at the time of shipment.
I wouldnt score your trolling much higher than grand-parent.
Yes. And it's all depending on how you see it. Even though a single app is not multithreaded doesn't mean i dont make use of both my CPUs. For instance, if i run Diablo II, the.app consumes 100% on one cpu, while the WindowServer consumes like 40 % on the other. That also leaves like 60% for all my other apps not to choke me while gaming.
And it does not cost $2000 to upgrade;-) I spent an additional $400 to go from
Single 1.8, 256MB/80GB
to
Dual 1.8, 512MB/160GB
That also includes a faster FSB (800->900, twice the amount of ram slots (from four to eight) etc. So it's actually a bargain:)
I don't see how that if Dual CPU system with a faster SATA HD (the other two were running parallel ATA) couldn't beat a single CPU AMD or Pentium system...
Well, you said it yourself. I make small.avi's with my Digital Ixus 400 and compress them on my DP G5, and Quicktime isn't multithreaded. Heck, even iTunes importing MP3s from cd isnt multithreaded. As far as i've noticed, not much in OS X is actually MT at all. WindowServer (~X), Finder (GUI frontend), iApps etc. None of them are...
I own a DP (1.8 Ghz) G5. I would be very interested in knowing how well it would run linux. I do love OS X, but it hurts my geek-karma not running linux on my "desktop".
But I guess if i'd really want to know I could always try out, write myself an article and get slashdotted:)
In that case, i'd try out Gentoo, perhaps Yellowdog, NetBSD (current has SMP support as far as i know), and benchmark that vs OS X. Perhaps someone out there already have done this, and could enlighten me ?
Well, as far as I know, its not much different in the US. I live in Scandinavia, and the only way I could move to the US and work would be to get "sponsored" by a large company. I have to have some skill or competence that they cannot aquire otherwise. (Like CS skills AND language) I cannot just move to the US and start looking for jobs. Why should it be any different in India ? (or, well, why is it like this at all. It does not seem like "free movement of labor" to me).
Anyone else finds it atleast a bit amusing that someone can make a long post filled with nums and figures about an article that discusses the KISS principle ?:-)
I'm looking to get the cheapest Mac that runs Darwin.
There is a difference between the cheapest Mac that runs OS X, and that runs Darwin. Darwin (the core) will run on a lot older hardware than OS X itself. For instance, you can run Darwin on the PowerMac 8NNN series, but dont try to take a retail OS X and install.
Have a lookt at Low End Mac and Accelerate your Mac. Perhaps they can give you some kind of hint. Now finally, i'd just like to point out that if you indeed want to run OS X, keep in mind that the "minimum requirements", like 128MB ram, is NOT sufficient imho. My G5 even choked on 512MB:)
Im curious to see how well this actually works. I went to the Unicast website and clicked one of their links, and it actually played the advertisment for me.
This is interesting, since I am using Mac OS X, Mozilla and the Middleman Web proxy (SF.net). I am amused it actually played, but I'm still not sure it will play without me clicking the link..
Exactly. If the dont charge him and let the hell break loose, other people supplying screeners to release groups will know it's safe. The HAVE to make an example, or things will really get out of hand. Or imagine a court ruling saying he did nothing illegal, that would really hurt.
Another interesting thing.. all the screeners i have seen lately are modified so that there is a blurring field over these "watermark" areas. A skilled release group knows better than just releasing an unmodified screener. Perhaps he just got unlycky, dropping it to the wrong team...
we will all probably end up with some of it in our system within a decade or so
Hopefully that would not be the case. I dont think the general idea is to let people go around infecting each other with this thing. That would be _very_ dangerous.
Its like releasing a kernel patch that "insert the following four lines somewhere in the kernel". You really should do some version checking before doing so...And also look into where the code is inserted
Patching the human DNA is not something you want to do just like that. Things are very likely to go out of hand due to the complexity of regulatory pathways. Viruses are extremely compact DNA users, often allowing multiple reads of the same code to produce different enzymes/proteins. And since we dont know what other body functions we are affecting, things are likely to go astray.
Another way of doing that is to connect the machines with a Hub instead of a Switch, and have one machine configured without an IP, only raw logging of network traffic.
The idea is that whatever goes on out there will be logged/dumped, but never executed/analyzed, on this machine. And since it has no IP, it does not show and cannot be addressed. So if you have an intrusion, this machine is uncontactable, but still will hold all network traffic for you to analyze later.
Kind of like making bash# ln -s/dev/lp/var/log/messages
--has a mishap rate of 12 per 100,000 flight hours
Just curious, anyone knows how this compares to a regular automobile ? If it is a wartime machine, combination between helicopter and airplane, and it is a lot safer than riding your average car, then it seems quite fair to me.
Well, so you argue that there is a "real world" indeed, where Zion is, and where Neo, Trin and Morph lives (and dies). Lets assume that is correct for a while.
I would be very interested in hearing your explanation on the five previous Zion's that was destroyed, based on:
1) Zion is in the real world
2) No human seems to know that Zion has ever fallen, ever been destroyed.
(Come on, if Human history had included 5 prior almost-extinctions, including a 23 person boot-up and the construction of a new Zion.. How the HELL could someone not know ?)
ERGO : Movie is utterly flawed OR "Real world" is also a simulation.
I would say this is the single largest flaw in M2/3, and I for one considered M2 to be a great movie, simply because I was waiting for the "explanations" to come in M3. They never did...
Now tell me this... Say we restart the Matrix, a whole new Zion, with 23 people. Does that imply only 23 people hooked up to the new matrix ?. What happens to all those people who are not unplugged ? They do have to restart the matrix... wont anyone notice ?
I for one have no trouble accepting that Smith could hack Bane, if you can go from Mind to matrix, why not the other way around? I actually think i have a quite good grasp on Smith. He is there to balance Neo. Those two (actually the same, as implied by Smith et al) are the "remainder of an unbalanced equation". The Oracle is there to create unbalance, thus she helps Neo, which of course generates a larger unbalance, which in its turn makes Smith more powerful. Smith is looking for "purpose". Utterly, he is designed to destroy Neo, and when so, he is "completed". When he, (in M1) realizes he cannot kill Neo because Neo wont die, he goes "rouge", out of control. Then, in the end, he is very "annoyed" with Neo, why dont you give up, why dont you die? Then, Neo finaly realizes the only way he can destroy Smith is by letting Smith destroy him. At that point, Smith has fulfilled his purpose and is utterly destroyed. Since Neo realizes he (himself) must die, he makes a peace treaty with the machines, and saves the world by self sacrifice.
Some parts of the story actually holds, whilie others dont. Still I think they are missing what really made M1 a great/new/novel movie. The time INSIDE the Matrix. This is where the cool stuff happens, this is the new stuff we havent seen before, and want to see more of. Instead the Wach Brothers change focus to something we have already seen a lot of times before, a simple man vs machine/alien/robot/slimy bastards-movie. Noting new, nothing interesting.
ERGO: M1 is great, M2 is also great if you disregard from the fact that you actually dont get any explanations in M3, and M3 it self is utterly flawed, totally uninteresting, annoying and pointless.
My 2 cents... (or Oren since i dont live in the US)
I configured my DLink DWL 900AP (wireless accesspoint) using Virtual PC. Plugged the USB adapter into my Mac, started VPC and installed software. All done.
And of course it's a bit slower than VMWare, it has to emulate the CPU, not just work as an API.
I dont require people to like Apple, but i find it really amusing when people make things up just to whine...
Why can't Apple make a less expensive headless box? They did this with the Cube, but it didn't catch fire like the original iMacs did so I doubt they'll be trying that again.
Not exactly true. The G4 Cube was monitor-less, but it was far from cheap. It cost just below a PowerMac with the same peformance, but with very limited expantion slots.
The cool thing with the cube was that it was almost completely silent (no fans what so ever!). Only a 5400rpm disk.
Another interesting thing with the cube is that it's second hand value is still very high, often around 500 to 900 dollars (ebay), even though the model is old. That's about half its retail price as new...
The G5 consumes huge amounts of power (like 90W), so dont expect to see it in a laptop anytime soon.. Thats why the G5 PowerMac has "climate zones" and "9 silent fans".. lots of heat to move away.
Dont get me wrong, its a great, powerful machine. AND it is rather quiet. Just that the G5 is no laptop stuff...
Slashdot Mirror
I say, ah an interesting link, and I click it. What is the first thing I see ? The stupid people making that page dont even know the difference between Sweden and Norway. Now that's very very impressive, i think i gonna just believe the rest of the page.. :D
Oh wait....
Doing is is illegal, and could get you in prison for a _very_ long time. (I think the maximum penalty is like 50 years or something, not sure if that's the US or UK or.. )
I dont think your math is entirely correct. The whole thing fails because the two persons have to determine and make a combined decision. So, if both persons make the correct guess, that a true spam is spam, it seems logical to think it is.
:)
But if you have two persons, you actually increase the risk that someone makes an incorrect assumption about the spam. Ie, you have two chances of failure. So even if you reduce the probability that _both_ persons would incorrectly classify a mail as spam, you increase the probability that one will. So how do you deal with that situation ?
True spam, A(spam),b(!spam) -> decision ?
True !spam A(spam, b(!spam) -> decision ?
The problem that occurs can be reduced by having an additional person, and a majority voting process in the end. The chance that a majority of voters would misclassify the mail is very low. You could also stay put with your two algorithms and have a "revote", assuming that the algorithm is not statical (ie will come up with the same decision all the time).
This leads us to the key issue. The algorithms are most likely statical. That means
A: You must have two different algorithms in your case
B: Revote doesnt work
So i'd suggest setting up three different spam filters a middleman voting system. Or you could just click "delete" yourself
That is an addtional restriction.
I think he meant that it was the _ONLY_ thing his Anti-something license contained (no #2,#3, no includes, nothing more). And it is still incompatible with the GPL.
simply tell 10 of your friends
;-)
I dont have 10 friends, you insensitive clod !
that two of three HDs failed within 2 years.. :)
Atleast I want to give credits to IBM for an excellent replacement procedure, I have received two new drives without any hazzles what so ever. Impressive actually, considering the trouble I've had trying to get replacement ASUS Graphic cards etc...
Re 1:Who gives a fuck [about openness]
I could have agreed with you if we were talking different versions of "free" beer/libre. When using a closed product like MS Windows, you dont know from one day to another if the whole licensing process will change, whether they will extend support or just quit an entire product line etc. If they do quit, there is no way you can continue to patch your systems.
Re 3:drivers come on CDs these days
The grandparent poster did not say anything about floppys, and I totally agree with him. I have two PC systems, on with an Asus A7V and one with an ABit KT7 mainboard. NEITHER are usable without the latest versions of VIA 4in1-drivers. The built-in drivers that ships with Windows are old and outdated already at the time of shipment.
I wouldnt score your trolling much higher than grand-parent.
Yes. And it's all depending on how you see it. Even though a single app is not multithreaded doesn't mean i dont make use of both my CPUs. For instance, if i run Diablo II, the .app consumes 100% on one cpu, while the WindowServer consumes like 40 % on the other. That also leaves like 60% for all my other apps not to choke me while gaming.
;-) I spent an additional $400 to go from
:)
And it does not cost $2000 to upgrade
Single 1.8, 256MB/80GB
to
Dual 1.8, 512MB/160GB
That also includes a faster FSB (800->900, twice the amount of ram slots (from four to eight) etc. So it's actually a bargain
I don't see how that if Dual CPU system with a faster SATA HD (the other two were running parallel ATA) couldn't beat a single CPU AMD or Pentium system...
.avi's with my Digital Ixus 400 and compress them on my DP G5, and Quicktime isn't multithreaded. Heck, even iTunes importing MP3s from cd isnt multithreaded. As far as i've noticed, not much in OS X is actually MT at all. WindowServer (~X), Finder (GUI frontend), iApps etc. None of them are...
Well, you said it yourself. I make small
I own a DP (1.8 Ghz) G5. I would be very interested in knowing how well it would run linux. I do love OS X, but it hurts my geek-karma not running linux on my "desktop".
:)
But I guess if i'd really want to know I could always try out, write myself an article and get slashdotted
In that case, i'd try out Gentoo, perhaps Yellowdog, NetBSD (current has SMP support as far as i know), and benchmark that vs OS X. Perhaps someone out there already have done this, and could enlighten me ?
Well, as far as I know, its not much different in the US. I live in Scandinavia, and the only way I could move to the US and work would be to get "sponsored" by a large company. I have to have some skill or competence that they cannot aquire otherwise. (Like CS skills AND language) I cannot just move to the US and start looking for jobs. Why should it be any different in India ? (or, well, why is it like this at all. It does not seem like "free movement of labor" to me).
KISS ?
:-)
Anyone else finds it atleast a bit amusing that someone can make a long post filled with nums and figures about an article that discusses the KISS principle ?
I'm looking to get the cheapest Mac that runs Darwin.
:)
There is a difference between the cheapest Mac that runs OS X, and that runs Darwin. Darwin (the core) will run on a lot older hardware than OS X itself. For instance, you can run Darwin on the PowerMac 8NNN series, but dont try to take a retail OS X and install.
Have a lookt at Low End Mac and Accelerate your Mac. Perhaps they can give you some kind of hint. Now finally, i'd just like to point out that if you indeed want to run OS X, keep in mind that the "minimum requirements", like 128MB ram, is NOT sufficient imho. My G5 even choked on 512MB
Im curious to see how well this actually works. I went to the Unicast website and clicked one of their links, and it actually played the advertisment for me.
This is interesting, since I am using Mac OS X, Mozilla and the Middleman Web proxy (SF.net). I am amused it actually played, but I'm still not sure it will play without me clicking the link..
Maybe that's because THERE IS NO EVIDENCE!
:-)
Exactly. That's why they need more time. to PRODUCE the evidence
Another interesting thing.. all the screeners i have seen lately are modified so that there is a blurring field over these "watermark" areas. A skilled release group knows better than just releasing an unmodified screener. Perhaps he just got unlycky, dropping it to the wrong team...
we will all probably end up with some of it in our system within a decade or so
Hopefully that would not be the case. I dont think the general idea is to let people go around infecting each other with this thing. That would be _very_ dangerous.
Its like releasing a kernel patch that "insert the following four lines somewhere in the kernel". You really should do some version checking before doing so...And also look into where the code is inserted
Patching the human DNA is not something you want to do just like that. Things are very likely to go out of hand due to the complexity of regulatory pathways. Viruses are extremely compact DNA users, often allowing multiple reads of the same code to produce different enzymes/proteins. And since we dont know what other body functions we are affecting, things are likely to go astray.
Another way of doing that is to connect the machines with a Hub instead of a Switch, and have one machine configured without an IP, only raw logging of network traffic.
/dev/lp /var/log/messages
:)
The idea is that whatever goes on out there will be logged/dumped, but never executed/analyzed, on this machine. And since it has no IP, it does not show and cannot be addressed. So if you have an intrusion, this machine is uncontactable, but still will hold all network traffic for you to analyze later.
Kind of like making
bash# ln -s
Pretty hard to clear up the trace now, huh ?
I am really happy that MAS in Xouvert now
:-)
Now they just have to rename the project to XMas and everyone will be happy
--has a mishap rate of 12 per 100,000 flight hours
Just curious, anyone knows how this compares to a regular automobile ? If it is a wartime machine, combination between helicopter and airplane, and it is a lot safer than riding your average car, then it seems quite fair to me.
Well, so you argue that there is a "real world" indeed, where Zion is, and where Neo, Trin and Morph lives (and dies). Lets assume that is correct for a while.
I would be very interested in hearing your explanation on the five previous Zion's that was destroyed, based on:
1) Zion is in the real world
2) No human seems to know that Zion has ever fallen, ever been destroyed.
(Come on, if Human history had included 5 prior almost-extinctions, including a 23 person boot-up and the construction of a new Zion.. How the HELL could someone not know ?)
ERGO : Movie is utterly flawed OR "Real world" is also a simulation.
I would say this is the single largest flaw in M2/3, and I for one considered M2 to be a great movie, simply because I was waiting for the "explanations" to come in M3. They never did...
Now tell me this... Say we restart the Matrix, a whole new Zion, with 23 people. Does that imply only 23 people hooked up to the new matrix ?. What happens to all those people who are not unplugged ? They do have to restart the matrix... wont anyone notice ?
I for one have no trouble accepting that Smith could hack Bane, if you can go from Mind to matrix, why not the other way around? I actually think i have a quite good grasp on Smith. He is there to balance Neo. Those two (actually the same, as implied by Smith et al) are the "remainder of an unbalanced equation". The Oracle is there to create unbalance, thus she helps Neo, which of course generates a larger unbalance, which in its turn makes Smith more powerful. Smith is looking for "purpose". Utterly, he is designed to destroy Neo, and when so, he is "completed". When he, (in M1) realizes he cannot kill Neo because Neo wont die, he goes "rouge", out of control. Then, in the end, he is very "annoyed" with Neo, why dont you give up, why dont you die? Then, Neo finaly realizes the only way he can destroy Smith is by letting Smith destroy him. At that point, Smith has fulfilled his purpose and is utterly destroyed. Since Neo realizes he (himself) must die, he makes a peace treaty with the machines, and saves the world by self sacrifice.
Some parts of the story actually holds, whilie others dont. Still I think they are missing what really made M1 a great/new/novel movie. The time INSIDE the Matrix. This is where the cool stuff happens, this is the new stuff we havent seen before, and want to see more of. Instead the Wach Brothers change focus to something we have already seen a lot of times before, a simple man vs machine/alien/robot/slimy bastards-movie. Noting new, nothing interesting.
ERGO: M1 is great, M2 is also great if you disregard from the fact that you actually dont get any explanations in M3, and M3 it self is utterly flawed, totally uninteresting, annoying and pointless.
My 2 cents... (or Oren since i dont live in the US)
I configured my DLink DWL 900AP (wireless accesspoint) using Virtual PC. Plugged the USB adapter into my Mac, started VPC and installed software. All done.
And of course it's a bit slower than VMWare, it has to emulate the CPU, not just work as an API.
I dont require people to like Apple, but i find it really amusing when people make things up just to whine...
"A Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer is to computing what a McDonalds Certified Food Expert is to fine cuisine"
My 2 cents...
They did this with the Cube, but it didn't catch fire like the original iMacs did so I doubt they'll be trying that again.
Not exactly true. The G4 Cube was monitor-less, but it was far from cheap. It cost just below a PowerMac with the same peformance, but with very limited expantion slots.
The cool thing with the cube was that it was almost completely silent (no fans what so ever!). Only a 5400rpm disk.
Another interesting thing with the cube is that it's second hand value is still very high, often around 500 to 900 dollars (ebay), even though the model is old. That's about half its retail price as new...
The G5 consumes huge amounts of power (like 90W), so dont expect to see it in a laptop anytime soon.. Thats why the G5 PowerMac has "climate zones" and "9 silent fans".. lots of heat to move away.
Dont get me wrong, its a great, powerful machine. AND it is rather quiet. Just that the G5 is no laptop stuff...