Exactly!!! I sent an email to the author for making this point in the last paragraph of the article. The DMCA should have never happened in the first place. It completly removes fair use rights. If people had realized this before hand we might not be in this position today but instead it got clouded with words like piracy and copyright.
But the Pinkerton people don't see morality as their concern, If it isn't there concern then who are they to decide what behaviour is indicative of a violent path? While I hold some unique views (in the eyes of most slashdotters) on morality, everyone should be able to agree that if a company isn't concerned with morality then they have no place in this profiling issue. Let's throw out the inherent wrong in the whole issue. They aren't concerned with morality yet they are making moral guidelines for moral behaviour. I can't be the only one who see's this.
Or a project like freenet that someone else mentioned are where we will end up. A private network piggybacked over the existing internet where we can exist and develop our own culture.
I know it sounds cheesy but it seems the only way.
If this is the case then how are click through and shrink wrapped licenses valid? I haven't signed anything that says I agree to them. Maybe I'm misreading this?
I think this is a lawsuit just waiting to happen. Kids are going to be abusing this by turning in unpopular kids or turning in someone they are pissed at. Then the parents (if they happen to be involved parents and not assholes) turn around and sue the school board or this company.
When are people going to fucking learn? Are we so irresponsable that we have to blame everyone and everything but the real issue? Fucking makes me sick sometimes. It even makes me afraid to have children because I know I will raise them to think for themselves and of course that makes them a criminal in the eyes of the schoolboard and the media.
Actually I've een wondering about this all fucking day. I can't get to Be.com to check the prices or even what the upgrade offer was. Thank god someone answered my questions. Now if the leechers would let me just go buy my upgrade copy;)
I saw a bunch of people complaining that companies like redhat, cobalt and VA are using this IPO money to buy up companies left and right. Think about it like this:
1) I would rather strong standing linux fromthe start companies buy these guys up instead of some Microsoft wannabe (only in business practice and ethics).
2) They are just trying to supplement thier income and help turn a profit like any other business. The opensource software business model has NOT had a chance to prove itself. At least this way there is a guaranteed source of income for these companies in these commercial offerings.
3) It's a value added resource. Not a power pack with time restricted digital audio and a few themes).
Cobalt made a really smart move. Chilisoft just came out of beta with the ASP for linux days ago. I was one of the beta testers and it really is a nice product. ASP is one of the things that I have been looking for for a long time under linux because I have several web users who only know frontpage HTML (or non-HTML as the case may be) and it was really a pain for me to tell them I didn't support ASP. Now I just need to order my copy (Not a cheap product for the average user but well within reason of any company.
I think it's great that all of these companies are creating products that do all these things but I *STILL* think junkbuster is the best solution. I would prefer that I only get cookies from the sites I allow and that's it. Nothing more. junkbuster follows the best security model. Denied unless explicitly allowed. There are average users here at the office who still have dialup at home and have installed the win32 version. If they can do it, anyone can.
I've said time and time again regarding nvidia that I would stick with them until they f'd-up. I have little tolerance for companies in this day and age when I can buy a 3dfx card and get full commitment to opensource or better yet anything from matrox. It looks like I'm in the market for a new 3d card now. What's the best offering from 3dfx in the 250 range right now? Testimonials?
As for Nvidia, I gave you all the chances in the world. I don't want a binary only driver. This IP bullshit needs to go. If 3dfx and Matrox can do it, so can you. I may be one consumer but I am one consumer and former long time nvidia supporter that you won't have anymore.
Actually I thought differently after reading it. I got the feeling IBM was doing anything BUT playing it for it's current hype. The fact that they are in for the long haul and aren't even expecting a return on the investment for 5 years at least seems very encouraging to me. One of my fears about the bandwagon lately is that companies were looking to hop on linux/bsd fast and get out like a day trader. If they didn't see the return they expected they would and then the articles about how linux really DIDN'T work would come flooding.
I'mn still of the opinion and thought that I don't give a rat's ass what the coporate market thinks, I'll use linux/bsd until something better comes along. I can't see going back now and I don't think anyone else will either.
Hell I find GIMP the easiest to use. Especially the devel stuff out right now. I've run every build that has come out. I love the tear-away menus. The only think gimp needs I think is Pantone support but I have a feeling that will never happen except via third party plugin. There are some licensing issues or what not around that I think. It's funny. There's a guy here at work who was starting to use photoshop and I was actually able to help him with a couple of things once I located the menu options. I started out with gimp so I'm not a photoshop kind of guy.
Okay one more time for clarity....Windowmaker is a Window manager. Gnome and KDE are environments. By that I mean they provide a common look and feel to appliations written. You can use gnome apps under kde and vice versa. KDE happens to have a default windowmanager - KWM. Gnome does not have one but it looks to be that sawmill (the one I moved from windowmaker to) is going to be the default choice.
I hope this doesn't sound too harsh. I know alot of new people are coming into linux/*bsd for the first time but I wouldn't want someone to sound foolish by basing an argument on something like this.
I read over the article really carefully but I think I've missed something. They kept bundling SCO and caldera/turbo linux together. Is there some sort of relationship there I've missed? Anyone care to enlighten me?
Wait for more information to become available. </end niceties>
What right does AOL have to stop these people from writing software on thier own time? I'm not a software writing kind of guy but is this even legal. The only thing I can think of is that AOL can stop them from using the "AOL *CAN* bring you good things" line.
It's stories like this that make me beg for a real 3rd party privacy/security group to certify companies. You've got companies that are storing Customer Priviliged Information(credit card numbers and the like) on the same server as the web server with no protection. You've got a licensed TrustE members who lull you with this big pretty seal that your information is safe. I swear we need some legislative reform that holds a company liable for NOT protecting your information enough. If I found out a company had stored my credit card number (which I explicitly ask sites I shop with not to preserve) in an unsecure fashion and it became stolen, I want some form of legal recourse. I really think there needs to be more liablity and responsibility on internet based companies.
Of course i'm also a huge proponent of full disclosure for any companies that conduct transactions over the internet. I should be able to call up Company A and get information about thier security so as to feel comfortable in doing business with them. My bank does this on thier online banking site discussing topics that the average user wouldn't have any clue regarding.
I think the reason you see Redhat 6.0 on Intel is because of 2 things:
1) Redhat (weather you like it or not) is the name of linux right now. I know it isn't right but these are suits who write these things. This leads into the second point 2) Least common denominator. Redhat 6.0 was the first libc6 distro if I'm not mistaken. I think all of the other major distros have migrated as well.
Since Redhat was the first name in linux to market, they create on that base. Thus RPM format. Experienced linux users will know to grab alien and convert the RPMs and what not. People who don't know are probably using Madrake or Redhat. (not a negative slam against redhat by any means. I happen to be a redhat user).
Do you have to load the soundcore module first in debian? Just a bit curious. Basically I added this to my/etc/conf.modules
alias sound soundcore post-install sound insmod emu10k1
And my sound starts up fine. I would like to look at that script though cause right now I just load gmix when I start X and it restores settings just fine but it would be nice to have it done after the module is loaded.
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Exactly!!! I sent an email to the author for making this point in the last paragraph of the article. The DMCA should have never happened in the first place. It completly removes fair use rights. If people had realized this before hand we might not be in this position today but instead it got clouded with words like piracy and copyright.
But the Pinkerton people don't see morality as their concern, If it isn't there concern then who are they to decide what behaviour is indicative of a violent path? While I hold some unique views (in the eyes of most slashdotters) on morality, everyone should be able to agree that if a company isn't concerned with morality then they have no place in this profiling issue. Let's throw out the inherent wrong in the whole issue. They aren't concerned with morality yet they are making moral guidelines for moral behaviour. I can't be the only one who see's this.
And when opera has a decent linux version, i will give them serious consideration. I realize you were trolling but I wanted to say something anyway =)
Actually I thought the descision to drop Alpha/NT was Microsoft's? I could be wrong tho'.
As far as demand for linux on alpha, I would LOVE to switch over. I can taste it in the back of my mouth but the cost is what is holding me back.
"and even that changed in FF VIII."
Well it wasn't an airship but it flew none the less. Maybe he should have been the lost pilot of the Ragnarok instead of Headmaster?
I think the word you want is Phallic. ;)
Or a project like freenet that someone else mentioned are where we will end up. A private network piggybacked over the existing internet where we can exist and develop our own culture.
I know it sounds cheesy but it seems the only way.
If this is the case then how are click through and shrink wrapped licenses valid? I haven't signed anything that says I agree to them. Maybe I'm misreading this?
I think this is a lawsuit just waiting to happen.
Kids are going to be abusing this by turning in unpopular kids or turning in someone they are pissed at. Then the parents (if they happen to be involved parents and not assholes) turn around and sue the school board or this company.
When are people going to fucking learn? Are we so irresponsable that we have to blame everyone and everything but the real issue? Fucking makes me sick sometimes. It even makes me afraid to have children because I know I will raise them to think for themselves and of course that makes them a criminal in the eyes of the schoolboard and the media.
Actually I've een wondering about this all fucking day. I can't get to Be.com to check the prices or even what the upgrade offer was. Thank god someone answered my questions. Now if the leechers would let me just go buy my upgrade copy ;)
WARNING: LAST LINE IS TOUNGE IN CHEEK.
I saw a bunch of people complaining that companies like redhat, cobalt and VA are using this IPO money to buy up companies left and right. Think about it like this:
1) I would rather strong standing linux fromthe start companies buy these guys up instead of some Microsoft wannabe (only in business practice and ethics).
2) They are just trying to supplement thier income and help turn a profit like any other business. The opensource software business model has NOT had a chance to prove itself. At least this way there is a guaranteed source of income for these companies in these commercial offerings.
3) It's a value added resource. Not a power pack with time restricted digital audio and a few themes).
Cobalt made a really smart move. Chilisoft just came out of beta with the ASP for linux days ago. I was one of the beta testers and it really is a nice product. ASP is one of the things that I have been looking for for a long time under linux because I have several web users who only know frontpage HTML (or non-HTML as the case may be) and it was really a pain for me to tell them I didn't support ASP. Now I just need to order my copy (Not a cheap product for the average user but well within reason of any company.
Underage sex shouldn't be a problem. Did you see American Beauty? That borders on pedophilia in osme people's opinion.
I think it's great that all of these companies are creating products that do all these things but I *STILL* think junkbuster is the best solution. I would prefer that I only get cookies from the sites I allow and that's it. Nothing more. junkbuster follows the best security model. Denied unless explicitly allowed. There are average users here at the office who still have dialup at home and have installed the win32 version. If they can do it, anyone can.
I've said time and time again regarding nvidia that I would stick with them until they f'd-up. I have little tolerance for companies in this day and age when I can buy a 3dfx card and get full commitment to opensource or better yet anything from matrox. It looks like I'm in the market for a new 3d card now. What's the best offering from 3dfx in the 250 range right now? Testimonials?
As for Nvidia, I gave you all the chances in the world. I don't want a binary only driver. This IP bullshit needs to go. If 3dfx and Matrox can do it, so can you. I may be one consumer but I am one consumer and former long time nvidia supporter that you won't have anymore.
Actually I thought differently after reading it. I got the feeling IBM was doing anything BUT playing it for it's current hype. The fact that they are in for the long haul and aren't even expecting a return on the investment for 5 years at least seems very encouraging to me. One of my fears about the bandwagon lately is that companies were looking to hop on linux/bsd fast and get out like a day trader. If they didn't see the return they expected they would and then the articles about how linux really DIDN'T work would come flooding.
I'mn still of the opinion and thought that I don't give a rat's ass what the coporate market thinks, I'll use linux/bsd until something better comes along. I can't see going back now and I don't think anyone else will either.
Hell I find GIMP the easiest to use. Especially the devel stuff out right now. I've run every build that has come out. I love the tear-away menus. The only think gimp needs I think is Pantone support but I have a feeling that will never happen except via third party plugin. There are some licensing issues or what not around that I think.
It's funny. There's a guy here at work who was starting to use photoshop and I was actually able to help him with a couple of things once I located the menu options. I started out with gimp so I'm not a photoshop kind of guy.
I think (If im not mistaken) that Corel Draw is a vector based graphics app similar to Illustrator more than to photoshop.
Okay one more time for clarity....Windowmaker is a Window manager. Gnome and KDE are environments. By that I mean they provide a common look and feel to appliations written. You can use gnome apps under kde and vice versa. KDE happens to have a default windowmanager - KWM. Gnome does not have one but it looks to be that sawmill (the one I moved from windowmaker to) is going to be the default choice.
I hope this doesn't sound too harsh. I know alot of new people are coming into linux/*bsd for the first time but I wouldn't want someone to sound foolish by basing an argument on something like this.
I read over the article really carefully but I think I've missed something. They kept bundling SCO and caldera/turbo linux together. Is there some sort of relationship there I've missed? Anyone care to enlighten me?
Actually with these prices you can buy a second drive and dump the entire disk to raw device at night. At least under *nix.
Wait for more information to become available.
</end niceties>
What right does AOL have to stop these people from writing software on thier own time? I'm not a software writing kind of guy but is this even legal. The only thing I can think of is that AOL can stop them from using the "AOL *CAN* bring you good things" line.
It's stories like this that make me beg for a real 3rd party privacy/security group to certify companies. You've got companies that are storing Customer Priviliged Information(credit card numbers and the like) on the same server as the web server with no protection. You've got a licensed TrustE members who lull you with this big pretty seal that your information is safe. I swear we need some legislative reform that holds a company liable for NOT protecting your information enough. If I found out a company had stored my credit card number (which I explicitly ask sites I shop with not to preserve) in an unsecure fashion and it became stolen, I want some form of legal recourse. I really think there needs to be more liablity and responsibility on internet based companies.
Of course i'm also a huge proponent of full disclosure for any companies that conduct transactions over the internet. I should be able to call up Company A and get information about thier security so as to feel comfortable in doing business with them. My bank does this on thier online banking site discussing topics that the average user wouldn't have any clue regarding.
Of course
I think the reason you see Redhat 6.0 on Intel is because of 2 things:
1) Redhat (weather you like it or not) is the name of linux right now. I know it isn't right but these are suits who write these things. This leads into the second point
2) Least common denominator. Redhat 6.0 was the first libc6 distro if I'm not mistaken. I think all of the other major distros have migrated as well.
Since Redhat was the first name in linux to market, they create on that base. Thus RPM format. Experienced linux users will know to grab alien and convert the RPMs and what not. People who don't know are probably using Madrake or Redhat. (not a negative slam against redhat by any means. I happen to be a redhat user).
Do you have to load the soundcore module first in debian? Just a bit curious. Basically I added this to my /etc/conf.modules
alias sound soundcore
post-install sound insmod emu10k1
And my sound starts up fine. I would like to look at that script though cause right now I just load gmix when I start X and it restores settings just fine but it would be nice to have it done after the module is loaded.