I happened to notice that the latest sources from the creative opensource website for my SBLive! had a tree for 2.4 kernels now. I guess those guys are ramping up as well.
i'm actually working on this right now. I'll be getting more stuff done this weekend and should be ready to go live sometime next week. Check out OpenInterface.
Basically what I'm doing is creating a repository where artists can submit examples of icons/interfaces for developers to see and contact them about thier project. I've decided to license everything under the Opencontent License (opencontent.org) and I will encourage artists who submit to follow suit. I'm hoping this will aleviate some of the burden on coders and the can focus on doing what they do best...hacking at code.
So don't fucking read it. If you don't like a post, don't read it. Better yet. Start your own fucking site and post only stories YOU want. Grow the fuck up. It reminds me of something my mom used to tell me years ago. When you get your own house you make your own rules but while you live in my house you live by my rules. And at least have the balls to post under your own account when you make complaints. If you aren't a logged in user, what you say about the site doesn't really matter. Take some accountability for once people.
The last I read on these issues is that this was a major concern for the sendmail guys. Does anyone know of the status of this? I feel like these two issues are really important in a modern MTA. I know there is an application on freshmeat that monitors the maillog for authenticated POP logins and adds authenticated users to sendmail for a short amount of time so they can relay mail but it seems quite the kludge.
Actually I noticed earlier that There we broken images and the occasional host not responding. I think they may be working on the ad servers right now. I'm sure they'll come back soon.
I think this is why you would still keep a local copy of your code and have md5 checksums for the packages on your personal distribution site. This is more along the same lines as the compaq testdrive program. If you just want to test a compile on another platform and do some debugging.
These kinds of arguments hold no merit to me. Before i get moderated down as a troll or flaimbait or a linuz zelot let me explain.
The arguments that certain hardware support is weak under linux is, indeed, valid. I will concede that point. But hardware support under NT is sometimes no better. It reminds me of the microsoft FUD article that says linux doesn't support USB. Well neither does NT 4.0 but of course that does not get mentioned. Linux has a reputation of being well handled on older hardware but as with NT, you get better results with better hardware.
I've been using linux exclusivly at home for the past 4 years. At work for the past 2 years. Admittedly i am a geek and do not mind playing with my OS.
The issue as I see it is not hardware support and what not but the user. Not everyone should own a computer. It's that simple. Some people can't drive. I don't want these people using a computer. Give them a limited function internet appliance and let them be on their way. In those cases, the hardware is tuned to work explicitly before it goes out the door of the factory. I think it's wonderful that computers have been pushed into the mainstream and that people WANT to use them but as much as apple or microsoft or even the eazel people would have you believe, a better interface isn't the answer. The desktop interface paradigm may change and SHOULD change but we need better educated users. Sometimes I feel that maybe we should have Internet Usage License afterall.
this seems really really odd. I mean the Zedz guys are the formerly know as replay.com guys. It seems odd that he wouldn't sell the domain name if he really supports cryptography as in the past. This really bugs me because I relied on replay/zedz for alot of crypto enabled software.
I think is the unique case we should give the Zedz guys a chance to comment on the issue publically before jumping to conclusions (which we all have done and are guilty of).
While I totally value the opinion of the OpenBSD team and the OpenSSH team I think something along these lines without any comment from the other (in my opinion) well respected party involved is a bit harsh.
i'm not in the UK but I did find a site called noamazon.com that was set up to boycott amazon and provide options for purchasing. On the left hand side of the page they list places to buy books from as an option to amazon and they list probably 4 sites + in UK. Check it out.
There's a link on news.com about doubleclick backing down the data merger with Abacus Direct databases. My question as it relates to this current issue with the credit company is what is to stop the companies such as doubleclick and trans whatever from doing this behind the scenes anyways? I mean honestly is the government going to try and enforce this?
Here's the news.com link. <a href-"http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-1562746 .html?tag=st.ne.1002.tgif?st.ne.fd.gif.d ">click</a>
At least this makes me feel a little bit better. People at the office call me crazy when I discuss privacy concerns and they say they don't care what people know about them. I wish I had a way to show them what exactly can be found out about a person from certain information.
Apathy of the public is going to kill this movement without proper education on the situation. That's my fear.
Open up a local directory in mozilla. I don't know how it looks on win32 but it really kicks ass under *nix. I know it's kind of silly but it still makes it pretty neat.
As a side note, do the precompiled binaries have SSL support? I can't get it working and the crypto FAQ on the page hasn't been updated yet.
Any tips or should I just let the Lizard build overnight?
But see you're company has you wearing multiple hats (assuming of course that you also do the system administration). The company I work for is a Quality Assurance lab. I am not a billable employee EXCEPT when I consult on projects or set up networked test environments. Otherwise I am busy with daily sysadmin tasks (slashdot;>). Now here is how IT staff was explained to me and it makes perfect sense. Sysadmins, helpdesk staff and other similar positions are financial overhead. We are a neccesary evil. The cost of sysadmins cannot be rolled into the cost of a product/project in terms of billable manhours to a client except in unique situations like the one I described above. Therefore maintaining passwords and user accounts is already part of my daily tasks.
Now let's look at yet another point of view. At least they were security aware enough to change the userids as well as the passwords. I can see this being a bit of overhead as you have to recreate all the accounts as well as notify the users. If they hadn't changed the usernames, the issue would have been less costly. Since we know this was an NT password list that was cracked, all the sysadmins would have to do is send out an email to all users notifying them that they would need to log off and log back on. The sysadmin would only need to run through usermanager and make all users change password at next logon.
I do see one aspect that I didn't think of before though that someone pointed out above you. The employees who were locked out during this time period were unable to generate revenue. And quite honestly the cost is starting to sound more reasonable to me now. If this were my network (At least my password policy requires users to use at least 3 numeric characters and requires a password change every three months), I would take down everything and do a full security audit on all the machines to verify that none of the crack tools were on any client systems. I could see this downtime being at MINIMUM justified by a $12,000 price tag.
I realy get tired of seeing claims like this from companies "They said that the user IDs and passwords provided access to proprietary information valued in millions of dollars, and they estimated the cost of issuing new user IDs and passwords at approximately $12,500. " Explain to me how in god's fucking name can someone justify that much to reissue new id's and passwords? The only way I could see this being an issue is if this also required email addresses to be changed and there was lost business messaging. Maybe costs related to notifying people of new email addresses? Some please explain to me how this number can be justified.
I think this will all be fixed with the new release of gnome. Thye left imlib behind in favor of gdkpixbuf. I THINK. Could a gnome type person confirm?
Actually just a tip (not trying to change your mind),
<quote> but when I tried to remove gnome-libs it told me that wmconfig needed it. OK, so get rid of wmconfig. Can't, fvwm needs it. WTF? </quote>
If you know you are going to remove all gnome packages and plan on replacing them with newer versions, then just "rpm -e --nodeps rpmname". this will bypass all the dependancy information and uninstall the package. I think wmconfig is redhat specific anyways but if you don't use it just uninstall it as well. If you don't use fvwm, uninstall it too. Basically what I'm saying is this, if you know you aren't going to need any of the packages, uninstall them with nodeps and be done with it.
This is a great point and should be moderated as such. While the article did make a quote that a standard GUI goes against the unix way of doing things, some people still seem to be missing the point. If you standardize a GUI for linux, it looses a bit of its appeal (at least to me). One of the reasons I like linux so much is the fact that I can make it LOOK and BEHAVE anyway I want. And I'm not just talking about window managers. If I want my linux box to be a firewall with no gui and only run on 300 megs of space, I can do it. If I want it to be a point of sale machine, I can do it.
The current structure of window managers I think works just fine with newer players entering down the road.
KDE-> Great for people migrating into the X world form Windows
WindowMaker/Blackbox-> Great for people with no previous bias towards mouse usage. I guess people who aren't hung up on position of buttons on titlebars and what not.
Enlightenment-> Great for people who want to customize out the ass and don't mind getting into some detail to do it.
Sawmill->Great for people who want every window to look different from every other window or who think lisp is god's gift;) (I personally use sawmill and meet niether of those descriptions)
Unless nvidia gets off thier collective asses and comes through with better commitment to the linux community, my next card is coming from ATI. I have been a staunch supporter of nvidia for some time now but while companies like ATI and 3dfx have made firm commitments and provided resource after resource to the opensource community, nvidia hides behind waiting for XFree 4.0. With the news yesterday that 4.0 will be out in March, I will give nvidia until a short time past to follow through on thier commitment. If I can't see any measurable results, I will move over to ATI. Am I being unfair here?
I like being able to carry a newspaper to the Caribou Cafe down the road on Sunday mornings and reading while I have my breakfast. I have a subscription to the AJC here in atlanta for the weekend papers. Newsprint still has portability. Sure, as wireless bandwidth gets more widespread and cheaper and as laptops get lighter and more portable, you will see people reading print mediums less and less but I want to curl up with a good BOOK or a good NEWSPAPER in bed at night. Not a laptop...I can already feel my eyesight going bad from staring at a computer screen all day long and then spending a couple of hours an evening catching up on personal business online. I need the break.
And as a side note that may disgust some and make others nod in agreement, It's easier to read a paper on the can than to find a good place to position a laptop. Sad part is, I do my best work in the "office".
Don't worry about the Gnome UI just yet. As previously noted Eazel will be handling the UI for gnome 2.0. The company core is made up of some of the original macintosh UI developers as well as some people from Macromedia as well. I do, however, think that there should be another repository of people who have graphic and UI skills available for opensource application writers to choose from or call upon. Tigert (Tuomas Kuosmanen) can't do it all himself. Maybe I'll work on starting that up tonight. Just a repository/place for artists to submit icon work and examples for developers to check and see which one fits their mood for an application. Anyone interested in helping? I'll probably end up doing it in Zope/python since that's my new bag as of late. If interested shoot me an email at the above with the subject of..ummmmm...."UI Design" and let me know. Artists can shoot me an email as well if you want me to let you know when things get going.
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I happened to notice that the latest sources from the creative opensource website for my SBLive! had a tree for 2.4 kernels now. I guess those guys are ramping up as well.
errrrr my bad. I didn't fix permissions when I updated moved from the development stuff over to the main one.
uggggggg....i keep forgetting that extrans is borked now. Here is the clickable for the link impaired.
i'm actually working on this right now. I'll be getting more stuff done this weekend and should be ready to go live sometime next week. Check out OpenInterface.
Basically what I'm doing is creating a repository where artists can submit examples of icons/interfaces for developers to see and contact them about thier project. I've decided to license everything under the Opencontent License (opencontent.org) and I will encourage artists who submit to follow suit. I'm hoping this will aleviate some of the burden on coders and the can focus on doing what they do best...hacking at code.
So don't fucking read it. If you don't like a post, don't read it. Better yet. Start your own fucking site and post only stories YOU want. Grow the fuck up. It reminds me of something my mom used to tell me years ago. When you get your own house you make your own rules but while you live in my house you live by my rules. And at least have the balls to post under your own account when you make complaints. If you aren't a logged in user, what you say about the site doesn't really matter. Take some accountability for once people.
The last I read on these issues is that this was a major concern for the sendmail guys. Does anyone know of the status of this? I feel like these two issues are really important in a modern MTA. I know there is an application on freshmeat that monitors the maillog for authenticated POP logins and adds authenticated users to sendmail for a short amount of time so they can relay mail but it seems quite the kludge.
Actually I noticed earlier that There we broken images and the occasional host not responding. I think they may be working on the ad servers right now. I'm sure they'll come back soon.
I think this is why you would still keep a local copy of your code and have md5 checksums for the packages on your personal distribution site. This is more along the same lines as the compaq testdrive program. If you just want to test a compile on another platform and do some debugging.
These kinds of arguments hold no merit to me. Before i get moderated down as a troll or flaimbait or a linuz zelot let me explain.
The arguments that certain hardware support is weak under linux is, indeed, valid. I will concede that point. But hardware support under NT is sometimes no better. It reminds me of the microsoft FUD article that says linux doesn't support USB. Well neither does NT 4.0 but of course that does not get mentioned. Linux has a reputation of being well handled on older hardware but as with NT, you get better results with better hardware.
I've been using linux exclusivly at home for the past 4 years. At work for the past 2 years. Admittedly i am a geek and do not mind playing with my OS.
The issue as I see it is not hardware support and what not but the user. Not everyone should own a computer. It's that simple. Some people can't drive. I don't want these people using a computer. Give them a limited function internet appliance and let them be on their way. In those cases, the hardware is tuned to work explicitly before it goes out the door of the factory. I think it's wonderful that computers have been pushed into the mainstream and that people WANT to use them but as much as apple or microsoft or even the eazel people would have you believe, a better interface isn't the answer. The desktop interface paradigm may change and SHOULD change but we need better educated users. Sometimes I feel that maybe we should have Internet Usage License afterall.
this seems really really odd. I mean the Zedz guys are the formerly know as replay.com guys. It seems odd that he wouldn't sell the domain name if he really supports cryptography as in the past. This really bugs me because I relied on replay/zedz for alot of crypto enabled software.
I think is the unique case we should give the Zedz guys a chance to comment on the issue publically before jumping to conclusions (which we all have done and are guilty of).
While I totally value the opinion of the OpenBSD team and the OpenSSH team I think something along these lines without any comment from the other (in my opinion) well respected party involved is a bit harsh.
(humor warning
Okay that was fast as hell. I don't think I've seen something go down that hard in a long time.
Congrats to all involved in the world's most effective DoS attack.
i'm not in the UK but I did find a site called noamazon.com that was set up to boycott amazon and provide options for purchasing. On the left hand side of the page they list places to buy books from as an option to amazon and they list probably 4 sites + in UK. Check it out.
There's a link on news.com about doubleclick backing down the data merger with Abacus Direct databases. My question as it relates to this current issue with the credit company is what is to stop the companies such as doubleclick and trans whatever from doing this behind the scenes anyways? I mean honestly is the government going to try and enforce this?
6 .html?tag=st.ne.1002.tgif?st.ne.fd.gif.d ">click</a>
Here's the news.com link. <a href-"http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-156274
At least this makes me feel a little bit better. People at the office call me crazy when I discuss privacy concerns and they say they don't care what people know about them. I wish I had a way to show them what exactly can be found out about a person from certain information.
Apathy of the public is going to kill this movement without proper education on the situation. That's my fear.
Open up a local directory in mozilla. I don't know how it looks on win32 but it really kicks ass under *nix. I know it's kind of silly but it still makes it pretty neat.
As a side note, do the precompiled binaries have SSL support? I can't get it working and the crypto FAQ on the page hasn't been updated yet.
Any tips or should I just let the Lizard build overnight?
But see you're company has you wearing multiple hats (assuming of course that you also do the system administration). The company I work for is a Quality Assurance lab. I am not a billable employee EXCEPT when I consult on projects or set up networked test environments. Otherwise I am busy with daily sysadmin tasks (slashdot ;>).
Now here is how IT staff was explained to me and it makes perfect sense. Sysadmins, helpdesk staff and other similar positions are financial overhead. We are a neccesary evil. The cost of sysadmins cannot be rolled into the cost of a product/project in terms of billable manhours to a client except in unique situations like the one I described above. Therefore maintaining passwords and user accounts is already part of my daily tasks.
Now let's look at yet another point of view. At least they were security aware enough to change the userids as well as the passwords. I can see this being a bit of overhead as you have to recreate all the accounts as well as notify the users. If they hadn't changed the usernames, the issue would have been less costly. Since we know this was an NT password list that was cracked, all the sysadmins would have to do is send out an email to all users notifying them that they would need to log off and log back on. The sysadmin would only need to run through usermanager and make all users change password at next logon.
I do see one aspect that I didn't think of before though that someone pointed out above you. The employees who were locked out during this time period were unable to generate revenue. And quite honestly the cost is starting to sound more reasonable to me now. If this were my network (At least my password policy requires users to use at least 3 numeric characters and requires a password change every three months), I would take down everything and do a full security audit on all the machines to verify that none of the crack tools were on any client systems. I could see this downtime being at MINIMUM justified by a $12,000 price tag.
Actually I would prefer to change all userids as well so that any new threats wouldn't have anything to go on.
I realy get tired of seeing claims like this from companies "They said that the user IDs and passwords provided access to proprietary information valued in millions of dollars, and they estimated the cost of issuing new user IDs and passwords at approximately $12,500. " Explain to me how in god's fucking name can someone justify that much to reissue new id's and passwords? The only way I could see this being an issue is if this also required email addresses to be changed and there was lost business messaging. Maybe costs related to notifying people of new email addresses? Some please explain to me how this number can be justified.
"Dude that's that Connie Chung chick" ;)
"Fuck you"
Best part of the whole film.
I think this will all be fixed with the new release of gnome. Thye left imlib behind in favor of gdkpixbuf. I THINK. Could a gnome type person confirm?
something like you discuss would be fine as long as I can still rebind every damn keystroke I want to. That's my only argument.
Actually just a tip (not trying to change your mind),
<quote>
but when I tried to remove gnome-libs it told me that wmconfig needed it. OK, so get rid of wmconfig. Can't, fvwm needs it. WTF?
</quote>
If you know you are going to remove all gnome packages and plan on replacing them with newer versions, then just "rpm -e --nodeps rpmname".
this will bypass all the dependancy information and uninstall the package. I think wmconfig is redhat specific anyways but if you don't use it just uninstall it as well. If you don't use fvwm, uninstall it too. Basically what I'm saying is this, if you know you aren't going to need any of the packages, uninstall them with nodeps and be done with it.
just my idea.
This is a great point and should be moderated as such. While the article did make a quote that a standard GUI goes against the unix way of doing things, some people still seem to be missing the point. If you standardize a GUI for linux, it looses a bit of its appeal (at least to me). One of the reasons I like linux so much is the fact that I can make it LOOK and BEHAVE anyway I want. And I'm not just talking about window managers. If I want my linux box to be a firewall with no gui and only run on 300 megs of space, I can do it. If I want it to be a point of sale machine, I can do it.
;) (I personally use sawmill and meet niether of those descriptions)
The current structure of window managers I think works just fine with newer players entering down the road.
KDE-> Great for people migrating into the X world form Windows
WindowMaker/Blackbox-> Great for people with no previous bias towards mouse usage. I guess people who aren't hung up on position of buttons on titlebars and what not.
Enlightenment-> Great for people who want to customize out the ass and don't mind getting into some detail to do it.
Sawmill->Great for people who want every window to look different from every other window or who think lisp is god's gift
Just a few thoughts on my side.
Unless nvidia gets off thier collective asses and comes through with better commitment to the linux community, my next card is coming from ATI.
I have been a staunch supporter of nvidia for some time now but while companies like ATI and 3dfx have made firm commitments and provided resource after resource to the opensource community, nvidia hides behind waiting for XFree 4.0. With the news yesterday that 4.0 will be out in March, I will give nvidia until a short time past to follow through on thier commitment. If I can't see any measurable results, I will move over to ATI. Am I being unfair here?
Let me explain why...
I like being able to carry a newspaper to the Caribou Cafe down the road on Sunday mornings and reading while I have my breakfast. I have a subscription to the AJC here in atlanta for the weekend papers. Newsprint still has portability. Sure, as wireless bandwidth gets more widespread and cheaper and as laptops get lighter and more portable, you will see people reading print mediums less and less but I want to curl up with a good BOOK or a good NEWSPAPER in bed at night. Not a laptop...I can already feel my eyesight going bad from staring at a computer screen all day long and then spending a couple of hours an evening catching up on personal business online. I need the break.
And as a side note that may disgust some and make others nod in agreement, It's easier to read a paper on the can than to find a good place to position a laptop. Sad part is, I do my best work in the "office".
Don't worry about the Gnome UI just yet. As previously noted Eazel will be handling the UI for gnome 2.0. The company core is made up of some of the original macintosh UI developers as well as some people from Macromedia as well. I do, however, think that there should be another repository of people who have graphic and UI skills available for opensource application writers to choose from or call upon. Tigert (Tuomas Kuosmanen) can't do it all himself. Maybe I'll work on starting that up tonight. Just a repository/place for artists to submit icon work and examples for developers to check and see which one fits their mood for an application. Anyone interested in helping? I'll probably end up doing it in Zope/python since that's my new bag as of late. If interested shoot me an email at the above with the subject of ..ummmmm...."UI Design" and let me know. Artists can shoot me an email as well if you want me to let you know when things get going.