As long as Intel continues to try and push the VROC scam, I know I'll be taking my business to AMD.
AMD also now offers RAID-0 for NVMe, with similar performance - and without the extra cost of a (still non-existant) "upgrade key".
Even better, M.2 sockets on X399 motherboards are running CPU lanes, where X299 motherboard-mounted M.2s are DMI and actually require an add-on card for full performance.
Intel's latest RAID solution is "Virtual RAID on Chip" - it's basically a software solution assisted by a few tweaks to the PCI lanes, and to take full advantage, you have to use a separate card to connect the NVMe chips to actual CPU PCI-E lanes, since the motherboard slots are all connected through DMI, and STILL are hobbled if you don't add the expensive upgrade "key"
Performance being equal, and no special cards on X399 motherboards to use it (Since Intel's X299 MB onboard M.2 slots connect through DMI/chipset PCI-E lanes) or an expensive VROC "Key" to enable features makes this a no-brainer.
Yes, he selected his user name by pure coincidence, and is not obsessed with digging up "dirt" (or at least what he thinks is dirt) on Microsoft.
Newsflash: Bill Gates no longer runs Microsoft.
I bet he even has a PS3 in his home entertainment center, and maybe even an iPod in his junk drawer. Maybe he's running Linux in his Roku! What a shocker!
Seriously, this has to be one of the dumbest anti-Microsoft posts yet here at Slashdot.
...don't respond to the breach by forcing users to go to a phishy-sounding "equifaxsecurity2017.com" web site (I've actually had phishing e-mails directing me to go to "paypal2017.com" and such. Worse, don't direct them to a THIRD site that doesn't even have a valid certificate, causing Chrome, Firefox and other browsers to scream "Dangerous and Deceptive Site!!!!" with a big red warning screen.
Lastly, don't force them to join your crappy credit monitoring site in order to find out if they are part of the breach... and thereby forcing them to renounce their ability to sue you.
The clueless executives need to be fired, and probably anybody on their IT staff with "security" in their title or job requirements.
Yeah, I could have told you this back when Windows 8 came out... oh wait, I did.
Titlebars that don't highlight when the window has focus, monochromatic icons, CAPS MENUS... 30 years of UX research thrown into the toilet when Microsoft decided to turn our desktops into mobile "screens" and now with three 4k displays, I can't even figure out what window has focus and find myself always searching a sea of visually similar icons for the tool I want.
Fine, don't want to play nice? Then the state should open up any area where Comcast operates to the free market (and state it that way, to confuse and bother the corrupt republicans who will undoubtedly try and block it)
Stuck CAN bus signal. From what I've gathered, my first guess when it first hit the news turned out to be the actual problem.
I was involved in writing calibration, diagnostic and simulation tools for GM and their suppliers in the late 90s and early 00s, I saw this problem several times on the low-speed bus, but that wasn't as critical (well, your instrument panel or radio might go wonky, but critical components run a high speed bus)
It looks like AMD will have some sort of RAID support in the X299 chipset, but at launch, they don't have bootable RAID-0 support for NVMe drives.
Intel promises this on the X299 motherboards, but hobbles it with the DMI interface for motherboard-mounted M.2 slots, and the need for an expensive "VROC Upgrade Key" (i.e. DRM nonsense) just to run non-Intel parts in a bootable RAID-0 array... oh, and the "Key" isn't actually available yet, at any price.
VROC was the last nail driving me away from their platforms. Sad really, considering their RAID technology promised almost direct multiplying of bandwidth in RAID-0 up to 25+ GB/s. Intel has crippled RAID support moving forward, and there is little point to using their stuff when AMD has managed to catch up and costs much less. I just wish they'd move faster to provide decent RAID support in their X399 chipset... though apparently there is a promise to deliver support in a future update.
I just don't get enough of those co-dependent, needy messages from Facebook already. I rarely get on to Facebook, because while I consider it somewhat useful, there is also a lot of noise. I don't care that my second cousin Betty just posted a picture. I do care that my uncle Albert has a birthday today. I scan it once a week or so to keep up to date.
Unfortunately, Facebook seems to be "all or nothing" in the way it feeds news.
I get that they have to make money, but filling my inbox with spam, and texting me as if something meaningful has been sent is pretty damn disgusting as a tactic.
Ah, I should have stated.... my Z170X motherboard predates Intel's "VROC" nonsense. It also has bottlenecks and obviously, I don't have the same number of PCIe lanes as the i9-7900X on an X299 motherboard.
My Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 5 motherboard and two Plextor NVMe sticks begs to differ. It boots fine on Intel RAID, as have my last three builds prior with SSDs.
When you spend $400 on a motherboard, and $1000 on an i9 CPU, there should be no excuse not to have the full capabilities enabled.
It is greed, pure and simple, on Intel's part. If they want to maintain market share, this is NOT how you do it.
They forced board makers to rush out the X299 motherboards 2 months ahead of schedule... and after spending some time with one, I can say Intel has a problem on its hands.
Intel promises no bottlenecks in their newest chipset for RAID performance - up to 20 drives, SSD or nvme, can be used. Performance has been measured at up to 16GB/s, which seems incredible... they also promise "RAID-0 for free"
Why for free?
Because the new X299 motherboards have a "VROC Upgrade Key" socket. Unless you pony up more cash to Intel, some of the RAID features only work with Intel storage (hence the "Optane-ready" logo on these motherboards). As for RAID-0, there is Free, and then there is "free" - On the board I had, the Gigabyte X299 Gaming 7, the third nvme slot could not be used to build a RAID-0 array at all without the key (or possibly an intel-branded nvme). Worse, the RAID-0 arrays would not be recognized by Windows as BOOTABLE, which is kind of the whole point. All this is "fine print" stuff, or buried in poorly written chinglish manuals.
So, spend $400 on a new motherboard, $1000 on an intel 10-core CPU, and... no bootable RAID-0 array for you, because you didn't buy Intel Optane sticks. No technical reason for this, just a DRM key that enables artificially hobbled features on your system.
Did I mention that the VROC key isn't even available yet? Not for ANY price.
I can safely say my next system will NOT be an Intel system. Screw them and their "VROC" scam.
At least it is for Windows 7 and 8.x - Microsoft offers it free for those that use "accessibility tools" - in other words, if you upgrade, run the screen magnifier once, and you've met the legal requirements for the free upgrade.
All of the mechanisms are still in place to activate the latest (Creator's update) Windows 10 installs using Windows 7 or higher keys. They'd be hard pressed to change this, since many upgraders will not have a valid Windows 10 key if they had to move to a new or used replacement PC system.
Quite frankly, Microsoft isn't that concerned about consumers still getting a free upgrade; the bread and butter for Microsoft has always been licenses on new laptops and desktops and, of course, licenses to businesses. Microsoft actually wants users to migrate, for many reasons, most of which are good for consumers.
They kept 3dfx honest, back in the day, much like the rivalry between AMD and Intel.
IIRC, PowerVR used "tiling" and without looking up the details, I'll probably mangle the history, but it was an interesting blip in the development of GPUs.
We have organizational coding styles. Typically, I match whatever the style is, reformatting isn't an issue.
This is how professionals work.
As for your example, I use scope delimiters, always. In the past 20 years, I have not had a team mate who has not adopted this rule themselves. It just makes sense, but in any event, it is clear what is going on (I usually parse code in my head when reading it), regardless of indentation, but again, reformatting quickly sorts out that indentation issue, doesn't it?
My early professional years were in embedded systems programming (Assembly, C, C++), and understanding the way a compiler generates code, particularly calls into libraries, meant I also became familiar with compiler operations. There is an elegance to using proper scoping delimiters - both from a compiler perspective as well as a readability issue. Python's form hearkens back to a darker age - I'm reminded of the spate of so-called 4GL languages that tried to do everything for you, and failed to keep up with changing technology in the process. Loose-formed ideas of passing parameters and changing means of representing scope... inconsistency born of creating a scripting language from scratch without regard for actual parsing rules.
It's clear some people are fanatics about Python... and that's fine. Will it become dominate? No. In my world, where people make serious money building applications for multi-billion dollar companies, Python isn't even a speck - and we dabble in a lot of different programming languages. C# is becoming more dominate at my current company, and there simply is no downside to that. We have a good ecosystem (Nobody will bring the company down here on their first day) and good practices. If Python meets a need, I'm sure we will use it... but there are far better choices available for most of the applications we need to develop here.
First off, a brace misplaced is far different from taking perfectly good code and copy-pasting it to find all of the scoping has been screwed up (Python) - and modern IDEs have no issues showing you where a missing indent it, which isn't happening with Python.
I'm curious, are you strictly a Python programmer? You seem to have a lot of emotional investment in this issue. Personally, I make my living from C#, Javascript and a smattering of something called Progress ABL - in my previous job I've also heavily used C/C++ and some PHP. As a robotics mentor I use Java, and as a hobbyist, I do use Python. I've also done BASIC, Pascal, Forth, COBOL, EDL, ActionScript, LUA, and even wrote my own scripting language back in my Xbox hacking heyday (for MXM). It's only 35 years of experience talking here, and I've written code on everything from DOS Edlin to modern IDEs. I know what makes me productive, and what I've observed the countless developers (both young and old) that I've mentored both professionally and for FIRST robotics.
Listen, maybe you are just trying to be facetious, maybe you are being outright disingenuous, but you simply cannot rationalize the concept that misformatting in Python is in any way no worse then something similar in C code. Misformatted Python code can happen with perfectly legitimate code when performing a simple action of transferring the text... C does not suffer from this flaw. DOES NOT SUFFER. If we are talking about code that has been badly written? Well, that's a different beast than what people here are complaining about - but even so, it is far easier for a modern IDE to still recover much of the scoping based on context, whereas Python requires an incredible amount of inference when the whitespace integrity is lost - so much so, that a moderately complex program might be impossible to untangle.
There is a reason why most modern languages have explicit scoping delimiters.
WTF are you talking about? First off, most editors will re-align code to the user's preferences. I set up my editors to do exactly that, and whether I'm debugging code or simply working on making changes to existing code, the first thing I do is reformat.
No "mis-indentation" at all there. Everything lines up exactly as it should because the code is easy to parse (both by humans and machines).
So the first time I hit return in the middle of misbehaving code, everything lines up and I can immediately spot the problem.
Can't do that with "mis-indented" Python code. You can't do that at all.
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As long as Intel continues to try and push the VROC scam, I know I'll be taking my business to AMD.
AMD also now offers RAID-0 for NVMe, with similar performance - and without the extra cost of a (still non-existant) "upgrade key".
Even better, M.2 sockets on X399 motherboards are running CPU lanes, where X299 motherboard-mounted M.2s are DMI and actually require an add-on card for full performance.
Intel's latest RAID solution is "Virtual RAID on Chip" - it's basically a software solution assisted by a few tweaks to the PCI lanes, and to take full advantage, you have to use a separate card to connect the NVMe chips to actual CPU PCI-E lanes, since the motherboard slots are all connected through DMI, and STILL are hobbled if you don't add the expensive upgrade "key"
Performance being equal, and no special cards on X399 motherboards to use it (Since Intel's X299 MB onboard M.2 slots connect through DMI/chipset PCI-E lanes) or an expensive VROC "Key" to enable features makes this a no-brainer.
Goodbye Intel.
That opens the door for a lot of userscripts.
Yes, he selected his user name by pure coincidence, and is not obsessed with digging up "dirt" (or at least what he thinks is dirt) on Microsoft.
Newsflash: Bill Gates no longer runs Microsoft.
I bet he even has a PS3 in his home entertainment center, and maybe even an iPod in his junk drawer. Maybe he's running Linux in his Roku! What a shocker!
Seriously, this has to be one of the dumbest anti-Microsoft posts yet here at Slashdot.
Nothing but the best for the best people.
...don't respond to the breach by forcing users to go to a phishy-sounding "equifaxsecurity2017.com" web site (I've actually had phishing e-mails directing me to go to "paypal2017.com" and such. Worse, don't direct them to a THIRD site that doesn't even have a valid certificate, causing Chrome, Firefox and other browsers to scream "Dangerous and Deceptive Site!!!!" with a big red warning screen.
Lastly, don't force them to join your crappy credit monitoring site in order to find out if they are part of the breach... and thereby forcing them to renounce their ability to sue you.
The clueless executives need to be fired, and probably anybody on their IT staff with "security" in their title or job requirements.
Ask him what he is going to do about robots stealing our jobs, and call on him to outlaw robots.
Yeah, I could have told you this back when Windows 8 came out... oh wait, I did.
Titlebars that don't highlight when the window has focus, monochromatic icons, CAPS MENUS... 30 years of UX research thrown into the toilet when Microsoft decided to turn our desktops into mobile "screens" and now with three 4k displays, I can't even figure out what window has focus and find myself always searching a sea of visually similar icons for the tool I want.
Fine, don't want to play nice? Then the state should open up any area where Comcast operates to the free market (and state it that way, to confuse and bother the corrupt republicans who will undoubtedly try and block it)
I have a stack of dead 2TB+ Seagate drives sitting around here.
Never again. They merged with Maxtor and the worst of both companies emerged out of the ooze.
So fine, your screen part has a malicious "touch logger" capability... how does it send data? Oh yeah, it CAN'T.
This sounds like FUD to make sure customers use the most expensive repair channel - the original manufacturer - to have the work done.
Stuck CAN bus signal. From what I've gathered, my first guess when it first hit the news turned out to be the actual problem.
I was involved in writing calibration, diagnostic and simulation tools for GM and their suppliers in the late 90s and early 00s, I saw this problem several times on the low-speed bus, but that wasn't as critical (well, your instrument panel or radio might go wonky, but critical components run a high speed bus)
It looks like AMD will have some sort of RAID support in the X299 chipset, but at launch, they don't have bootable RAID-0 support for NVMe drives.
Intel promises this on the X299 motherboards, but hobbles it with the DMI interface for motherboard-mounted M.2 slots, and the need for an expensive "VROC Upgrade Key" (i.e. DRM nonsense) just to run non-Intel parts in a bootable RAID-0 array... oh, and the "Key" isn't actually available yet, at any price.
VROC was the last nail driving me away from their platforms. Sad really, considering their RAID technology promised almost direct multiplying of bandwidth in RAID-0 up to 25+ GB/s. Intel has crippled RAID support moving forward, and there is little point to using their stuff when AMD has managed to catch up and costs much less. I just wish they'd move faster to provide decent RAID support in their X399 chipset... though apparently there is a promise to deliver support in a future update.
I just don't get enough of those co-dependent, needy messages from Facebook already. I rarely get on to Facebook, because while I consider it somewhat useful, there is also a lot of noise. I don't care that my second cousin Betty just posted a picture. I do care that my uncle Albert has a birthday today. I scan it once a week or so to keep up to date.
Unfortunately, Facebook seems to be "all or nothing" in the way it feeds news.
I get that they have to make money, but filling my inbox with spam, and texting me as if something meaningful has been sent is pretty damn disgusting as a tactic.
Ah, I should have stated.... my Z170X motherboard predates Intel's "VROC" nonsense. It also has bottlenecks and obviously, I don't have the same number of PCIe lanes as the i9-7900X on an X299 motherboard.
My Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 5 motherboard and two Plextor NVMe sticks begs to differ. It boots fine on Intel RAID, as have my last three builds prior with SSDs.
When you spend $400 on a motherboard, and $1000 on an i9 CPU, there should be no excuse not to have the full capabilities enabled.
It is greed, pure and simple, on Intel's part. If they want to maintain market share, this is NOT how you do it.
They forced board makers to rush out the X299 motherboards 2 months ahead of schedule... and after spending some time with one, I can say Intel has a problem on its hands.
Intel promises no bottlenecks in their newest chipset for RAID performance - up to 20 drives, SSD or nvme, can be used. Performance has been measured at up to 16GB/s, which seems incredible... they also promise "RAID-0 for free"
Why for free?
Because the new X299 motherboards have a "VROC Upgrade Key" socket. Unless you pony up more cash to Intel, some of the RAID features only work with Intel storage (hence the "Optane-ready" logo on these motherboards). As for RAID-0, there is Free, and then there is "free" - On the board I had, the Gigabyte X299 Gaming 7, the third nvme slot could not be used to build a RAID-0 array at all without the key (or possibly an intel-branded nvme). Worse, the RAID-0 arrays would not be recognized by Windows as BOOTABLE, which is kind of the whole point. All this is "fine print" stuff, or buried in poorly written chinglish manuals.
So, spend $400 on a new motherboard, $1000 on an intel 10-core CPU, and... no bootable RAID-0 array for you, because you didn't buy Intel Optane sticks. No technical reason for this, just a DRM key that enables artificially hobbled features on your system.
Did I mention that the VROC key isn't even available yet? Not for ANY price.
I can safely say my next system will NOT be an Intel system. Screw them and their "VROC" scam.
Clearly he smuggled it up is ass
At least it is for Windows 7 and 8.x - Microsoft offers it free for those that use "accessibility tools" - in other words, if you upgrade, run the screen magnifier once, and you've met the legal requirements for the free upgrade.
All of the mechanisms are still in place to activate the latest (Creator's update) Windows 10 installs using Windows 7 or higher keys. They'd be hard pressed to change this, since many upgraders will not have a valid Windows 10 key if they had to move to a new or used replacement PC system.
Quite frankly, Microsoft isn't that concerned about consumers still getting a free upgrade; the bread and butter for Microsoft has always been licenses on new laptops and desktops and, of course, licenses to businesses. Microsoft actually wants users to migrate, for many reasons, most of which are good for consumers.
I for one think this is a great idea. Netflix has taken an old idea, and is incorporating it into their IP into a format that isn't easily pirated.
They kept 3dfx honest, back in the day, much like the rivalry between AMD and Intel.
IIRC, PowerVR used "tiling" and without looking up the details, I'll probably mangle the history, but it was an interesting blip in the development of GPUs.
We have organizational coding styles. Typically, I match whatever the style is, reformatting isn't an issue.
This is how professionals work.
As for your example, I use scope delimiters, always. In the past 20 years, I have not had a team mate who has not adopted this rule themselves. It just makes sense, but in any event, it is clear what is going on (I usually parse code in my head when reading it), regardless of indentation, but again, reformatting quickly sorts out that indentation issue, doesn't it?
My early professional years were in embedded systems programming (Assembly, C, C++), and understanding the way a compiler generates code, particularly calls into libraries, meant I also became familiar with compiler operations. There is an elegance to using proper scoping delimiters - both from a compiler perspective as well as a readability issue. Python's form hearkens back to a darker age - I'm reminded of the spate of so-called 4GL languages that tried to do everything for you, and failed to keep up with changing technology in the process. Loose-formed ideas of passing parameters and changing means of representing scope... inconsistency born of creating a scripting language from scratch without regard for actual parsing rules.
It's clear some people are fanatics about Python... and that's fine. Will it become dominate? No. In my world, where people make serious money building applications for multi-billion dollar companies, Python isn't even a speck - and we dabble in a lot of different programming languages. C# is becoming more dominate at my current company, and there simply is no downside to that. We have a good ecosystem (Nobody will bring the company down here on their first day) and good practices. If Python meets a need, I'm sure we will use it... but there are far better choices available for most of the applications we need to develop here.
First off, a brace misplaced is far different from taking perfectly good code and copy-pasting it to find all of the scoping has been screwed up (Python) - and modern IDEs have no issues showing you where a missing indent it, which isn't happening with Python.
I'm curious, are you strictly a Python programmer? You seem to have a lot of emotional investment in this issue. Personally, I make my living from C#, Javascript and a smattering of something called Progress ABL - in my previous job I've also heavily used C/C++ and some PHP. As a robotics mentor I use Java, and as a hobbyist, I do use Python. I've also done BASIC, Pascal, Forth, COBOL, EDL, ActionScript, LUA, and even wrote my own scripting language back in my Xbox hacking heyday (for MXM). It's only 35 years of experience talking here, and I've written code on everything from DOS Edlin to modern IDEs. I know what makes me productive, and what I've observed the countless developers (both young and old) that I've mentored both professionally and for FIRST robotics.
Listen, maybe you are just trying to be facetious, maybe you are being outright disingenuous, but you simply cannot rationalize the concept that misformatting in Python is in any way no worse then something similar in C code. Misformatted Python code can happen with perfectly legitimate code when performing a simple action of transferring the text... C does not suffer from this flaw. DOES NOT SUFFER. If we are talking about code that has been badly written? Well, that's a different beast than what people here are complaining about - but even so, it is far easier for a modern IDE to still recover much of the scoping based on context, whereas Python requires an incredible amount of inference when the whitespace integrity is lost - so much so, that a moderately complex program might be impossible to untangle.
There is a reason why most modern languages have explicit scoping delimiters.
WTF are you talking about? First off, most editors will re-align code to the user's preferences. I set up my editors to do exactly that, and whether I'm debugging code or simply working on making changes to existing code, the first thing I do is reformat.
No "mis-indentation" at all there. Everything lines up exactly as it should because the code is easy to parse (both by humans and machines).
So the first time I hit return in the middle of misbehaving code, everything lines up and I can immediately spot the problem.
Can't do that with "mis-indented" Python code. You can't do that at all.